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Hi everybody, I'm Dennis Prager. I welcome you, and we are a country in trouble. And it's unprecedented. The president of the United States cannot say what he wants on a tweet. The— it's a lie about this incitement. If he incited the riot at the Capitol, then the left incited 6 months of riots. Is that not fair? How come only the one riot, the one of the right, that is the issue? The hundreds of them, the staggering destruction of stores, police cars, police precincts, people shot— nothing. It was like it didn't happen. If you reported what was happening in Portland, you, you could have been censored. Remember, we— not to mention threatened, like Andy Ngo. Ngo is how his name is spelled. That courageous journalist in Portland, Oregon. The president incited— see my column today called The Good American. He said, now go peacefully. He actually said that in his speech. Go peacefully to the Capitol. That's quite an incitement. Do you know that? And not one case— I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen in one case where the president is accused of inciting riots that they actually gave a quote from his speech. Yeah, that's right. Let me get that exact line up. Because I think it's something we should play.

Do you have—

do we have the speech, Sean, of the president? Let's see here. The Good American. I'm pulling it up right now, and I'm going to look up the word peacefully. We have got to demand that Congress do the right thing and only the electors who have been lawfully slated. Lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will— that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. Over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. That's it. Okay, now we got it. All right, that's, that's real insight. That's insight. It's inciting, I should say, right? But when you're telling people that the police are murderers and then a police— policeman is murdered by a black man, an angry black man. That— is that inciting? Just curious. Policemen are murderers. All policemen are racist. All whites are racist. And a black kills a policeman. Is it— was that— was there any inciting taking place? How many college campuses would even allow the question I just posed to be asked? They— the Pavlovian response that has been engendered in students would be, that's racist. So there's, there's no possibility of pursuing the truth. There's nothing racist about the question I asked. Nothing. Zero. It's just a fair question. If you tell Black Americans over and over and over that the police hate them and kill them like as if they were Ducks in a pond being shot at, and then somebody says, really? Well, then I'm going to kill a policeman. Is that inciting to murder? We have to withdraw and make a better country, a conservative-run country versus a left-run country. The conservative country will be more decent, more peaceful. More kind, more honest. So we have to create that. The, uh, as I have said over and over, the left-right division is unbridgeable. Either America survives or the left wins. That's, that's it. If the left wins, it is over for the American experiment, which they, which they loathe. You know why they loathe it? There are many— it's very, very interesting question. Why does the left loathe this country? The left, although the liberals don't loathe it— liberals are just useful for the left, but they don't loathe America. The left loathes America in large measure for the same reason Jews have been loathed historically, because generally speaking they did better. They had a better quality of life, and people hated them for it. Not to mention, they thought they were chosen people, as does America. America thinks it's exceptional. So the left loathes America for the same reason, and I've written a book on, on both. It's called Why the Jews, and it has a chapter on anti-Americanism. As a form of anti-Semitism, and that was written well before the current crisis. So I, I have seen this for long, for a long time. It's the very success of America and its beliefs. For example, from the beginning, it believed it was a second chosen people. The Hebrews, the Israelites, the Jews were the first and the Americans the second. You could say it's nonsense, except for the fact that it was the most successful country in the world. Successful doesn't mean flawless. Do you know that countries are composed of humans? Human nature is deeply flawed. And as I have said, and it is worth repeating, the Enlightenment was based on two Terrible fallacies. God is not necessary, and human nature is basically good.

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So now me at 27, I can now play historian. So let me tell you what's about to happen. Okay, sure. When Democrats have unified government, they're going to reach too big and they're going to fail with a lot of it. We now have to pinpoint though what fights matter most. Number one, The continuation of the Electoral College. Number 2, no more seats on the Supreme Court. Number 3, no new states. Number 3 is the one that we really got to look out for. So if we're smart, we should go ask Joe Manchin right now on the record, do you support adding new states to the union? I have a whole very provocative argument that I think that Joe Manchin should run for Senate majority leader and all the Republicans should support him. Therefore not allowing Chuck Schumer becoming Senate majority leader. So I'm going to come out with that publicly today. I guess I'm breaking it exclusively, Eric. It's my— I did come up with the idea, but it's actually so patently obvious. But then here's the other thing that's going to happen, Eric, is that we're going to start to get— it's going to get worse before it gets better. They're going to crack down on us like never before. There's going to be a lot of indictments, investigations, deplatforming, censoring. Loss of hope, and then things will— then we're gonna have to rally and we're gonna have to find some momentum. But for anyone who now says, well, the country is over, it's lost, then go, go to Paris, okay? I have no time for you right now, okay? I'm gonna fight for every single inch of this country. And if you're all of a sudden gonna be these people that— it's— there's, there's a direct connection of it's the people that were dealing in hope, like, give me the hopium, and now the people that want nothing to do with it. It's over, it's done. Fine.

Yeah.

Go to Brussels. Okay, I want nothing to do with that. We gotta fight.

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Then if you go to Sullivan's Twitter feed, uh, some of these things I cannot read out to you on live radio, but he reposted this: Kick these fascists out of DC, January 6th, 2021. Dump Trump for good. Location: Washington Monument, 11 AM on the 6th. Then he reposted this, and I'm editing it. F the system! Time to burn it all down! Hashtag BLM, hashtag Antifa, hashtag F the system, hashtag abolish Yes, indeed, everybody.

Dennis Prager here, St. Simons Island, Georgia. Wesley, hello.

Hello, Dennis. The biblical basis for two Twitters is found in Amos 3:3. It says, can two walk together except they be agreed? So your solution to the Twitter problem is brilliant and biblical. Just have another service for conservatives and let it— let the market decide. Because if we have a free market in this country, The, the, um, the social medias that censor and inhibit free speech will atrophy and die, and those that are classically liberal and allow free speech, which is American— not un-American, but American— they will flourish and do well.

That's why they don't want the liberty, as I said, I began the talk. Why do they believe that a conservative speaker at campus is threatening? They're right. They are 100% right. One conservative speaker on a campus threatens the entire lying structure that your kids are being submitted to at a campus. So the withdrawing to make our own society, which will be kinder, finer, and freer is the only option at this time. We need our own Twitter, we need our own Facebook, we need our own colleges, we need our own high schools. This is an enormous task. It's restructuring, it's building a country, because the one that exists now has been ruined in terms of liberty and many other terms, economically as well. With the, uh, the belief that you— people are not talking about it anymore. I'm still in lockdown here in California. More and more every day another restaurant dies, which means nothing to the left because they love big business, not little business. The entrepreneur, the owner of one restaurant, is a piece of refuse for the left. And the fact that they have not, I don't know, fought back is astonishing to me. Well, we will fight back. I am not prepared to say that the guys died at Normandy Beach for the sake of Jeff Bezos to become more powerful. That's not why they died. They died so that the little guy could speak his mind. Keep that in mind. We'll be back. I'm Dennis Prager.

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We only deal in the facts, and Katie Pavlich has given them to us. Yes, there were thousands of peaceful Trump supporters that marched to Capitol Hill, and that surrounded the building. There were others that broke the law and that gained entry to that building and did damage to that building. But some of the people who were there disguised as Trump supporters were in fact BLM and Antifa. Will we ever get to the bottom of what really happened? We are 12 days away from Biden taking over in his installation of Merrick Garland as the Attorney General of the United States. So no, don't hold your breath for some official judicial conclusion or even a prosecution of these individuals because that's not in their interests. BLM is peaceful. Didn't you know that Antifa doesn't exist? It's just an idea. But as long as we have great people like Katie Pavlich and my colleagues at Town Hall and at Salem, we will give you the truth. Because that's why we exist. That's why we are here. That's why this radio show broadcasts to you every day of the week for 3 hours. Now more than ever, it's crucial that you share this information, that you propagate the knowledge you receive from this show.

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The last year we have seen BLM-incorporated rioters burn down the cities of our country with very little to any of arrests happen. We saw Antifa go after conservatives and kill a conservative in the street of Portland. We saw the Russia hoax and zero people be held accountable to it, from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page to Brennan to Clapper. We saw this entire voter fraud nonsense unfold. We saw the Ukrainian impeachment hoax earlier in the year. Hillary has never been even close to being indicted for what she did from the Clinton Foundation or from Uranium One. How about Hunter Biden? You think Hunter Biden's ever going to serve serious time in jail? How about the lockdowns? I don't trust any institution that exists anymore in our country. And you shouldn't either. I don't trust many of our leaders that legislate. I don't trust our corporations. I don't trust our universities. And I don't trust the media. Now, that's not to say that violence is justified. That's not the point. The point is that if you lazily and sloppily slap a label onto these people and say, oh, they're insurrectionists, like, hold on a second. Get a little bit deeper and a little bit more nuanced of what's happening in our country right now. What drives them? They don't trust their system is what is driving them.

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You know what? I saw Ron DeSantis say something the other day that really, really got to me. He said, the highlight of my life, of my job, of my existence is to have people come up to me now and with tears in their eyes and say, thank you, Governor DeSantis. Thanks to you, my family still has an income. I still have a job. Thanks to you, I've been able to survive this horrific year. You, you should see New York. Oh my goodness, it's terrible what New Yorkers have experienced and are continuing to experience. And, and believe me, look at the comparisons of New York and Florida. It's very apt. So here's Governor DeSantis at that press conference where a CNN reporter was strutting around like a peacock trying to embarrass him and talk over him. And he completely bested her with this exchange.

What has gone wrong with the rollout of the vaccine that we've seen phone lines jammed, websites crashed?

A lot of demand. I mean, I think at the end of the day—

Excuse me.

Excuse me.

If I could finish my question.

You just said what has gone wrong. So I'm answering the question.

If I could complete the question, though.

So you're going to give a speech or you're going to answer, ask a question.

We've seen websites crash and also senior citizens waiting overnight for the vaccine.

Where was that at?

We've seen it in Duval, Broward, Orange, and Lee.

Why was there a big line? Did you, did you investigate why?

Could you tell us?

Because we, we distributed vaccine to hospitals and the hospital said first come first serve. If you show up, we'll do it.

See, I mean, these CNN clowns aren't interested in any kind of answers. She doesn't care about a response. She wants to posture. And behave more like an activist than a reporter.

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I'm watching this thing and I'm looking at this horrific scene of how these people breached the Capitol building, hoping nobody gets hurt. Hoping the officers are able to maintain order, hoping there's no destruction of valuable, uh, uh, you know, artifacts and things like that in that building. How this looks by— but from terrorists, they're seeing how easy it is to breathe. That's what I'm thinking about. It never occurred to me to go, you know what, Larry, I wonder what would have happened had these people been largely Black people. I, I guess I had other things on my mind, but If you want to play that game, let's play that game. Polling and my baby brown libertarian fingers. Article from the Wall Street Journal, April 27, 2016. Headline: This study found race matters in police shootings, but the results may surprise you. In the article, very detailed, I urge you to go get it yourself. We have it up on LarryOwens.com, and it goes through a very thorough analysis of how studies, analyses, research back to the '70s show the police more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger on Black suspects than on white suspects. Washington State, over a series of years, 3 studies, all of which reached the same conclusion.

Hello everybody, I'm Dennis Prager and our, uh, our crisis continues here. You know, you don't know where to turn. Is it the, the crisis of the destruction of the economy, or is the crisis of the destruction of liberty both led by the left? And then they're elected. People elect those who destroy them. It is a phenomenon, and the only way you can explain it is they have never heard what I just said. It's as simple as that. We hear them, we study under them, we watch them, we listen to them. They don't read us, they don't study under us, they don't watch us, they don't us. That's the great difference, and the desire is even more so now. I can't get over the National Association of Realtors. They will monitor your private chat, your private emails, to ferret out hate speech. Hate speech is anything that the left differs with. That is hate speech. It is hate speech to say men do not give birth. Try it out. Tweet it. Tweet that. To the best of my knowledge, men do not give birth. It's hard to imagine a less provocative statement, but today that is not only provocative, it's considered hate speech. The biggest donor to the Republican Party a man that I, I knew, Sheldon Adelson, the, the owner of the Sands Hotel and other major casinos, major philanthropist, major. And they died of complications from cancer either today or yesterday. I just found out about it, so I'm reading about him. So he's worth $33 billion, and he grew up in Boston. He was the son of a taxi driver, and he just worked his way up. And unlike the other multi-billionaires, he was grateful to America. People like Bill Gates and the folks who own all these other places, whether it's Apple or Amazon, they— their ingratitude to the United States is something you could choke on. Sheldon Adelson loved the United States. He just loved it. He, he lived in awe of the promise of liberty that he was given, especially as a Jew. I'm sure his parents or his grandparents came from Eastern Europe where there was so much anti-Semitism, came to the United States, which certainly had anti-Semitism but nothing comparable to East Europe. And since you compare America to other countries not to utopia. If you are a Jew, you are only grateful to this country. I want to read to you a line from the piece on him that struck me. Las Vegas Sands is the largest gaming corporation in the world, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. The company says it employs more than 51,000 people worldwide. Now I want you to hear the next sentence. This is how conservatives treat people. It's the only US-based casino company that has not laid off employees during the coronavirus pandemic. The left uses workers. The right helps workers. The left uses teachers. The left uses— and then you just fill in the blank. Everyone is fungible. You are all used. But you can't hear much about that because the constrictions that are placed on conservative voices are so great. This is typical. Yep, this big mega donor to Republican causes, the only U.S.-based casino company that has not laid off employees during the coronavirus pandemic. Gee, why would that be? I'll tell you partially why. One is that he was so grateful to America, he wanted to pay back How do the— how do these leftist billionaires pay back? They fund Black Lives Matter. That really helps workers, doesn't it? Adelson did not fund Black Lives Matter. He funded his employees. See? And why did he do that? Because he wasn't afraid of what the media would say. The media hated him. They hated this man. They love the people of his wealth who give money to Black Lives Matter. See, that's it. All Adelson did is, is make sure all of his employees were stayed employed during the pandemic. So may he rest in peace. I know his wife, she's heartbroken, but I don't— I didn't speak to her since this happened. I wasn't, uh, I knew them pretty well, was at their home. I did not receive any funding from him. All of this is simply knowledge of him and his remarkable wife. And it's a loss to her. She loved him very much, as she said in her statement. And he loved his family. And he was an idiosyncratic man. I, I fully understood that. Didn't matter to me. I judged him by what he did. I love that fact that I just read to you. And of course, it doesn't matter to anybody on the left. It's irrelevant. And this is from CNBC, by the way. That's, that's where I read it to you from. All right, 1-800-PRAGER-776. You are listening to The Dennis Prager Show, and it's, uh, I think it's Challenge here from Edson in Valley Village, California. Hello, Edson.

Hi, Dennis. Hi. Uh, I want— I wanted to know if your reaction would be the same if, given the same circumstances, the Capitol riot happened under Obama's watch.

Well, what, what does it mean, would my reaction be the same, since I completely condemned it from the minute it happened? How would my reaction be different?

It would be more like Heather MacDonald's and Kimberly Strassel's reaction and the Wall Street Journal editorial page's reaction where they, you know, asked President Trump to resign. Don't you think you'd probably be asking President Obama to resign?

It's inconceivable to me I would have asked that he resign. And I'm very disappointed that the Wall Street Journal did.

But I mean, the part that got me is it happened. And yeah, okay, you could— who knows if it was Trump's responsibility, but it went on for 3 hours. Trump didn't say anything. And then when it was over, he told the people that he loved them.

He told— yes, he did. And he told them go home peacefully. It was not a forceful enough statement. I agree with you. It was later. So it took 5 days for Joe Biden to say a word about the riots after the George Floyd death. 5 days.

Yeah, I know.

Not 5 hours.

I would love—

I would— wait, wait, wait. Do you want to react to that? Or if you don't want to react to it, say, Dennis, I don't want to react to it, and we can move on. But you have to— you have to— you have to either react or say you don't want to react.

No, I'm on your side.

No, no, okay, it was wrong.

Biden was wrong.

Okay, should he have resigned?

Sure.

Okay, all right. So, so I just need to tell you, under your criteria, nobody would run. Kamala Harris would resign. The president would resign. The president the elect, the nominee of the Democrats, would resign. I have higher demands in order to have a president or nominee resign. They have not met those standards yet.

I'd love to hear you discuss this with Heather MacDonald.

She thinks he should resign?

Yes.

Interesting. Yeah, you're right, I have phenomenal respect for Heather MacDonald. I, I was not aware of that, which is odd because I keep up with this stuff. Obviously, that's my job. All right, we continue.

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And the president is addicted to social media and to television and to division. And he's been lying to the American people for 8 straight weeks and planned it long before. No matter what was happening in any state, he was going to say the election was being stolen. And the people needed to rise up. So, Senator, he said repeatedly to go wild when you get to the Capitol. They went to the Capitol and some went wild. Now, let's be clear here. There's 30,000 people here. The vast majority of them are honorable, freedom-loving people. The vast majority of them, but not all of them.

Do you think he intended for the riot and the occupation, the insurrection to happen?

I think Donald Trump wanted there to be massive division, and he was telling people there was a path by which he was going to stay in office after January 20th. That was never true. And he wanted chaos on television. I don't have any idea what was in his heart about what he wanted to happen once they were in the Capitol, but he wanted there to be chaos. And I'm sure you've also had conversations with other senior White House officials, as I have.

I have.

As this was unfolding on television, Donald Trump was walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team weren't as excited as he was, as you had rioters pushing against Capitol Police trying to get into the building.

That said, should he be impeached and removed?

I think that there are a lot of questions that we need to get to the bottom of about why the National Guard was not deployed. I want to understand more about why the National Guard wasn't deployed when there had been clear calls for it, and then why that delay happened. So there, there are more things that I need to understand before I get to a conclusory judgment about that. But I think that the question of was the president derelict in his duty, that's not an open question. He was.

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I watch a lot of CNN and MSNBC, so you don't have to. I got the scars to prove it. Let me tell you something. Trump talked about the rally. He wanted people to come to D.C. Nobody said, uh-oh, 5 people are going to be killed because these guys are going to assault the Capitol building. Oh my goodness. Nobody said that. The most severe pathological hateful Trump hater never said that. Nobody said that. How many Trump rallies have there been? When have you seen this? That's why they weren't ready. Didn't think it was going to happen. Hadn't happened before. And there is some evidence that some of the people there were outside agitators, infiltrators. Some don't know. We're still sorting that out. But at least one guy is a known Antifa Black Lives Matter activist, violent guy from Utah, one of them. But people didn't anticipate this because heretofore, for the most part, the Trump rallies have been peaceful. And most of the people again there were peaceful. All of a sudden, the media has forgotten that term that they love so much called mostly peaceful. They've also forgotten that term they love so much called defund the police. Why weren't the police there? Why wasn't there more of a police presence? Remember that— was it the mayor of Baltimore who said we gave the rioters space to destroy?

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Hi everybody, I'm Dennis Prager and I welcome you back or to the program. And let me bring to your attention the following: Arizona librarian fired for push to keep politics out of libraries. For all I know, the man's a liberal. He might be. The odds are he's not. Liberals don't fight. But he might be. Our job as librarians is to provide access to information from all points of view. You understand that that statement makes you a hater on the left. That you would like all points of view aired means that you are unacceptable to the left by definition. An Arizona librarian was fired after he called for libraries to be apolitical spaces in July. This just came out though. Arizona librarian Ron Kelly received an email from the American Library Association soliciting individuals to join the Black Lives Matter movement. The ALA is one of the most left-wing organizations in the country. In the world. In fact, Kelly, who has served in his position for 9 years, replied to the listserv with an email titled, 'Keep politics off this discussion group.' That was his death knell. I could have told him that at the time. Now you know why people are afraid to speak up. Just saying 'keep politics out of libraries' is enough to get you fired. In which he argued that libraries should remain neutral and apolitical. Following two complaints to the Flagstaff Library regarding his email, Kelly was fired from his job. Now you know why conservatives keep quiet. We should start our own libraries. The left is bad everywhere in its history since Lenin. It has suppressed people. The idea of working with them is an absurdity. You can try, but it is an absurdity. It's like working with Lenin. The Mensheviks tried it, and then they died, many killed. Prior to Kelly's removal, the American Library Association released material instructing employees to embrace, quote, critical librarianship, unquote, which asks libraries and librarians to analyze how they, quote, consciously and unconsciously support systems of oppression, unquote. Its core tenet is that neutrality harms oppressed groups. Get it? That's it. Neutrality harms oppressed groups. What is the— how do you decode this lie, this Orwellian statement? Neutrality allows non-left thought, and we will not allow that. That's what it means. Neutrality doesn't harm oppressed groups anyway. There aren't oppressed groups in the United States. That alone— can you imagine saying that at any organization in this country? I'm sorry, there are no oppressed groups in the United States. As one Portland librarian put it in the American Libraries magazine, remaining neutral as a librarian, quote, upholds inequality and represents indifference to the marginalization of members of our community. That's what they believe. There you go, marginalization. That's it. I love that— marginalized communities. Left talk. Kelly told the Washington Free Beacon that this idea was wrongheaded. Our job as librarians is to provide access to information from all points of view. Oh my God, oh my God, this is like a dinosaur. Provide all points of view. What a good man, what a good man. That's the American way, provide information from all points of view. And to let people make up their own minds. Whoa, make up their own minds. That is a major danger to the left. Critical librarianship is, quote, rejecting neutrality in the library. This goes against what the premise of a free society and what a library should be. This man is a hero. Libraries now make sure to have Drag queen story hour. That's what the library is for, because drag queens are a marginalized group. Under the auspices of critical librarianship, the American Library Association has in recent years attacked the gender binary as an outdated, oppressive concept. Gender binary means that there are two genders, male and female. That's outdated and oppressive. The organization also promotes drag queen story hours across the nation and calls for maintaining queer and trans of color archives and naming and calling out microaggressions. That's correct, so that they could be fired like Mr. Kelly. Kelly told the Free Beacon he was perplexed that a drag queen story hour could take place in a public library but that defending viewpoint neutrality leaves him without a job. This Flagstaff Public Library could not be reached for comment. They have poisoned our libraries. They have poisoned our discourse, our colleges, our sports. The soulless are taking over. I intend to fight. For many of you, I am a source of strength. I know that. I'm not bragging, I'm stating a fact. For many people, I am diabolic. I believe in goodness, God who wants us to be good, kids should honor their parents, all viewpoints should be heard. This stuff is diabolical to the left. I always ask about that whenever— well, whenever I'm attacked to my face, which is rare. I'm usually just attacked on the internet. What exactly have I said? So they make up stuff that I said. The one that they love on— uh, what was it? Not the— uh, there's a, there's a space that has massive numbers of comments And they, on all sides, to be fair, and the left side, Prager thinks it's great to say the N-word. Yeah, I— not neftogen, that's a P-word. I will, uh, I will tell you about that when we come back.

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We only deal in the facts, and Katie Pavlich has given them to us. Yes, there were thousands of peaceful Trump supporters Trump supporters that marched to Capitol Hill and that surrounded the building. There were others that broke the law and that gained entry to that building and did damage to that building. But some of the people who were there disguised as Trump supporters were in fact BLM and Antifa.

Will we ever get to the bottom of what really happened?

We are 12 days away from Biden taking over in his installation of Merrick Garland as the Attorney General of the United States. So no, don't hold your breath for some official judicial conclusion or even a prosecution of these individuals because that's not in their interests. BLM is peaceful. Didn't you know that? Antifa doesn't exist. It's just an idea. But as long as we have great people like Katie Pavlich and my colleagues at Town Hall and at Salem, we will give you the truth because that's why we exist. That's why we are here. That's why this radio show broadcasts to you every day of the week for 3 hours. Now more than ever, it's crucial that you share this information, that you propagate the knowledge you receive from this show.

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The last year we have seen BLM-incorporated rioters burn down the cities of our country with very little to any of arrests happen. We saw Antifa go after conservatives and kill a conservative in the street of Portland. We saw the Russia hoax and zero people be held accountable to to it, from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page to Brennan to Clapper. We saw this entire voter fraud nonsense unfold. We saw the Ukrainian impeachment hoax earlier in the year. Hillary has never been even close to being indicted for what she did from the Clinton Foundation or from Uranium One. How about Hunter Biden? You think Hunter Biden's ever going to serve serious time in jail? How about the lockdowns? I don't trust any institution that exists anymore in our country, and you shouldn't either. I don't trust many of our leaders that legislate. I don't trust our corporations. I don't trust our universities, and I don't trust the media. Now, that's not to say that violence is justified. That's not the point. The point is that if you lazily and sloppily slap a label onto these people and say, oh, they're insurrectionists, like, hold on a second, get a little bit deeper and a little bit more nuanced of what's happening in our country right now. What drives them? They don't trust their system is what is driving them.

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You know what? I saw Ron DeSantis say something the other day that really, really got to me. He said the highlight of my life, of my job, of my existence is to have people come up to me now and with tears in their eyes and say thank you.

Hi everybody, I was just mentioning, I don't remember even how it arose, about, oh yes, when I tell people, can you name one thing in a career of 35 years of hours a day of speaking, not even pre-recorded, of 1,000 columns on the internet, 10 books, can you think a sentence that can depict me as other than just the guy who wants the world to be kinder and better. So they go, oh, you, you lament the fact that people don't use the N-word because they got this from left-wing lying sites. If you actually listen to what I said, I'll tell you exactly. Man, callers talking about Harry Truman, who used the word kike and used the N-word in letters and said, look at, look at what a good man he turned out to be. And I said— so somebody said, why can you say kike, which is like the N-word, about Jews, but you can't say the N-word? I said, I think it's stupid to call a, a Black person— and it's, it's in, it's, it's recorded— to call someone the N-word is despicable, it's evil. But to say it— The Guardian, which is on the left, said it's stupid. We can't read Huckleberry Finn. It's the only word that is not, not sayable. You should never call someone the word. That's evil. But to make reference to it— you can't even make reference to it to condemn it, which I do condemn. I've never used the word. How's that? Never. Not once. I don't think I was ever in the presence of a human being who referred to Black people with the N-word. Maybe they know I would so object. So what they do is when they don't have real stuff on you, they make up stuff. Media Matters, I think, spread that lie, but they lie for a living. Truth is not a left-wing value. It's, uh, it's a crisis indeed. Poor guy. Imagine that, to believe that all points of view should be heard, and he gets fired by the American Library Association. We have to withdraw. That's fighting. And at this time, withdrawing from the poisoned institutions that the left— the institutions the left has poisoned— is a form of protest. The first thing is the schools. Get your kids out of there, because if you don't, you will suffer for it. They will come home and crap on what you believe in and eventually dismiss you. as so many children have, as a, as a decent human being. The, the ultimate in the cult-like world of the left. They call Trump supporters cult. So interesting. The cult supporters stop to— excuse me, do Trump supporters stop speaking to their parents who are not Trump supporters? What do you think the ratio is of adult children who stop speaking to parents between those who stopped speaking to parents who supported Trump and Trump supporters who stopped speaking to parents who are opposed to Trump? Think it's 1,000 to 1? I'd say it's probably 1,000 to 1. Why isn't that a giveaway as to the fact that the left makes you a meaner human being? Why isn't that one of the great proofs? There's a perfect symmetry here. Do you stop speaking to your parent if you are pro-Trump and they're anti-Trump, or if you are anti-Trump and they're pro-Trump? What, what do you think is more likely to happen in real life? Why don't you use that example? To show how despicable the left is, and it makes people despicable. Because if you don't speak to a parent because they're pro-Trump and you're not, you are despicable. Sorry, you are. But this is a product, as well as I've so often noted, of our secular age that has contempt for honor your father and mother— comes with an asterisk for the left— not if they support Trump. There it is. That's, that's their view. We don't have that view. We believe you honor, you honor your father and mother even if they're anti-Trump. Doesn't come with that asterisk for, for those of us who believe in it. Doesn't mean you have to agree with them. Doesn't mean even you have to like them. There's no law to love your parents in the Bible. Love the stranger, love the, uh, love your neighbor, love God, but not love your parents. You have to honor them. Only creatures in the world you have to honor are your parents. These are relevant, by the way. All of this is what I write about in The Rational Bible, and a lot of wisdom there, if I may say so myself. I hope you read it. It is a great moment when I recommend to you Relief Factor, because I know that some people who are in pain will be freed of that pain if they take Relief Factor. It is a simple, safe supplement. It works for the, the great majority of people who use it. For muscle and joint pain, not nerve pain. Give it a 3-week trial because you'll know in 3 weeks, they say, whether it works. $19.95 for 3 weeks plus shipping. ReliefFactor.com, 800-500-8384.

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Governor, you were the first of the major Republican contenders in 2016 to endorse the president. Do you regret that decision?

I do not, Hugh. I do not because I knew when I dropped out of that race and then after the South Carolina primary that none of the other people on the stage were going to beat Donald Trump. He was going to be the Republican nominee, and I was completely committed. In fact, in some ways desperate to make sure that Hillary Clinton was not the next president of the United States. And when you look at the tax cuts, the regulation cuts, most importantly, the judicial nominees, You know, the problem is that the president's behavior at times has obscured his accomplishments.

Oh, I agree. The JCPOA and the Abraham Accords— there's a great list. Will that now always have appended to it, as Nixon has resignation appended to him, the riot and insurrection of Wednesday?

Of course it will. That was a scene and a set of actions that really, I think, shook the American people. And those images, I don't think, will ever leave anyone who was watching them. Well, I don't believe the president intended for what happened to happen, but I think, as has happened for all of the 8 weeks, Hugh, since the election, the president put first and foremost his perception that this election was stolen from him and his personal grievances were put first, and he used them on Wednesday to fire up that crowd.

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So now me at 27, I can now play historian. So let me tell you what's about to happen. Okay, sure. When Democrats have unified government, they're going to reach too big and they're going to fail with a lot of it. We now have to pinpoint though what fights matter most. Number 1, the continuation of the Electoral College. Number 2, no more seats on the Supreme Court. Number 3, no new states. Number 3 is the one that we really got to look out for. So if we're smart, we should go ask Joe Manchin right now on the record, do you support adding new states to the union? I have a whole very provocative argument that I think that Joe Manchin should run for Senate majority leader and all the Republicans should support him, therefore not allowing Chuck Schumer becoming Senate majority leader. So I'm going to come out with that publicly today. I guess I'm breaking it exclusively, Eric. It's my— I did come up with the idea, but it's actually so patently obvious. But then here's the other thing that's going to happen, Eric, is that we're going to start to get— it's going to get worse before it gets better. They're going to crack down on us like never before. There's going to be a lot of indictments, investigations, deplatforming, censoring, loss of hope.

Great respect for Andrew and Todd at andrewandtodd.com. They're with Sierra Pacific Mortgage. They have been advertising their superb management of your loans, refis, and new fis. You name the fi, they are in it, including whatever it might be in your case, even a reverse mortgage. With the rates this low, it's very, very wise to refinance or cash out or move, whatever it might be. These guys have been with me from the beginning of the lockdown, to their great credit, because they're so good and they handle people so well. AndrewandTodd.com, 888-888-1172. 888-888-1172, andrewandtod.com. They'll take it from there. I'm Dennis Prager. Here's a, uh, here's another group that followed the, the herd. Reddit, Reddit bans r slash— I guess that's Reddit— Donald Trump following violence at the U.S. Capitol. Days after a mob broke into the U.S. Capitol amid protests against Donald Trump's 2020 election loss, another major social media platform has banned— this is from TechCrunch— has banned a popular pro-Trump forum. Reddit this morning confirmed it shut down the r/DonaldTrump subreddit due to, quote, repeated policy violations. A spokesman for— spokesman for Reddit tells TechCrunch, quote, Reddit's site-wide policies prohibit content that promotes hate or encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence against groups or peoples of— excuse me, group of peoples, uh, let's see, or individuals. In accordance with this, we have been proactively reaching out to moderators to remind them of our position and to offer support or resources as needed. This is gobbledygook. In other words, if you, if you say that you believe that the election was not fair you cannot be on Reddit. It's a very interesting thing, right? So all whites are racist, that's, that's perfectly appropriate. That doesn't lead in any way to hate, right? Because it's a loving statement. All whites are racist, that's okay. I believe the election is was a fraud, whether you believe it or whether you, the listener, respect that view or not is irrelevant. It certainly isn't as inciting to violence as all whites are racist. Racist is the worst thing you could be. Can you name something worse than racist? Maybe murderer, maybe murderer is worse. All whites are racist— you get paid a lot of money to say that if you run some sort of resource event for your— for a company that hires you. You get rich saying all whites are racist. You get thrown off all media if you say the election was unfair. Okay, that's where we're at least let's have clarity about it. You want— you want your children to believe all whites are racist? Send them to a regular school. That's what they will be— that's what they will be told. Tom in Venice, California, hello.

Hey Dennis Prager, when you were in elementary school school. I mean, I'm 60 years old. I know it's been a while, but, uh, do you remember being taught to hate your president?

I would say that when I was in elementary school, the president was— the president was not even a subject of discussion.

Exactly.

Well, Republican or Democrat?

My brother, he's a second grade teacher here in Southern California. And, you know, I guess I was just shocked to hear that, uh, the elementary schools are actually feeding negative politics to first, second, third graders.

Yes, that— why do you think I tell people to take their kids out of school? They're poisoning your children with hate. Everything they charge the right is their stuff. They, they hate this country. They hate capitalism. They hate free speech. They hate whites. Even the whites hate whites. It's really remarkable when a white person says all whites are racist. I know I'm not racist. I, Dennis Prager, am not racist. I know this as well as I know my height. And Therefore, I can only conclude you're a racist, so you're pretty scummy, and you want to really get out of that terrible moral state by saying we're all like that. You see, if everybody's racist, why is it so bad? So they have to say— these people who know they are racist, which they are are, it's very hard to be a leftist and not a racist because you have contempt for blacks. It's definitional to leftist policies. If you have high standards, blacks will fail. That's the motto of the left in a nutshell. Okay, if that's not racist, then nothing is. Okay, let's go to Jesse in Flint, Michigan. Hello, Jesse.

Hi, Dennis. How are you today?

I'm fine, thank you.

I just had some clarification I was asking for. Um, I watched a lot of news, but it's primarily, you know, conservative news. But with the riots in the Capitol, I know they talked about how dangerous and how violent they were, but I haven't seen any footage, uh, about them burning and destroying other than breaking a couple windows to get into the Capitol. So I'm trying to question on how were—

are there more violence than, you know, there was more coverage of the Capitol riot than 6 months of constant rioting all put together.

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I was watching a certain congressman who I won't name. Former congressman who 5 or 6 times on television right now, he just said, I'm so surprised to see this. I'm so stunned to see this. You can be saddened to see it like I am, but if you're surprised that you're seeing this, then you have done an awful job governing and legislating. This should not be a surprise to anyone that actually understands what is happening in this country. And this is beyond politics at this moment. This is beyond Republican and Democrat. This is a multi-institutional problem that is happening in America. So I want to get into this as we lead. We're waiting for the president of the Senate, the vice president, to reconvene the session. As we promised you, we're going to be covering this live tonight, and we covered it all throughout the day. What drove those people to scale the walls of Congress today, of which I don't support? But why did they do that? The sloppy and the lazy analysis that is being given is because President Trump told them to do that. That's wrong. That's not true. First of all, he didn't tell them to do that. But that is a— that's a simpleton argument. They did that because they don't trust their system. That's why. I just heard Jonathan Turley on Fox News, who I think is a very smart guy, and he said, how could these people not trust their system? What's gotten into them? What's gotten into them? They watch the news.

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And the president is addicted to social media and to television and to division. And he's been lying to the American people for 8 straight weeks and planned it long before. No matter what was happening in any state, he was going to say the election was being stolen and the people needed to rise up. So, Senator, he said repeatedly to go wild when you get to the Capitol. They went to the Capitol and some went wild. Now, let's be clear here. There are 30,000 people here. The vast majority of them are honorable, freedom-loving people, the vast majority of them, but not all of them.

Do you think he intended for the riot and the occupation, the insurrection to happen?

I think Donald Trump wanted there to be massive division, and he was telling people there was a path by which he was going to stay in office after January 20th. That was never true. And he wanted chaos on television. I don't have any idea what was in his heart about what he wanted to happen. Once they were in the Capitol, but he wanted there to be chaos. And I'm sure you've also had conversations with other senior White House officials, as I have.

I have.

As this was unfolding on television, Donald Trump was walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team weren't as excited as he was.

Talking about a new place, I have a new live affiliate, NewsTalk 1340 WXKX in Clarksburg, West Virginia. Yes, indeed, all of you in Clarksburg. Uh, I should have a 'let me introduce myself' pre-recorded something. Who am I? That's right, I am a promo code. Thank you so much. That is correct. My parents had two sons. One, a doctor, a professor of medicine, and the other, a promo code. What do you think makes a Jewish mother happier? Sean asks me in my earphones, what do you think— that is, what do you, Dennis, think a Jewish mother takes more pride in, a doctor, a lawyer, or a promo code? I, uh, I wish she were around for me to ask. I will tell you all a very good story about my mom's funny story on CNN. Obviously she was living, and I, uh, she loved when I was on TV. It got a big kick out of it. Anyway, I decided to do something because when I am on Fox or any, any of these other stations, I stare into a camera. Before COVID— now I do it at home— but before COVID and the lockdowns, I did it at, you know, at a Fox studio or CNN studio or whatever city I was in. So I would stare into a camera. I didn't see anybody and I didn't have to read anything, so I could effectively be blind and do the exact same thing. So one day I thought, you know what, I am going to, uh, I'm gonna see— I don't know what I look like without glasses, so I'm gonna go on CNN with no glasses on. It's irrelevant, I don't have to see anything. So I go on first segment, then there's a break. During the break, my mother calls me, which is very rare that she would call You know, during a break, they go, Ma, is everything all right? She goes, yeah, put them back on. That was the entire call. And as I have often noted, this is for you in Clarksburg, when your own mother thinks you look better in glasses, that, uh, that's a statement. We will continue The Dennis Prager Show.

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I watch a lot of CNN and MSNBC, so you don't have to. I got the scars to prove it. Let me tell you something. Trump talked about the rally. He wanted people to come to D.C. Nobody said, uh-oh, 5 people are going to be killed because these guys are going to assault the Capitol building. Oh my goodness. Nobody said that. The most severe pathological, hateful Trump hater. Never said that. Nobody said that. How many Trump rallies have there been? When have you seen this? That's why they weren't ready. Didn't think it was going to happen. Hadn't happened before. And there is some evidence that some of the people there were outside agitators, infiltrators. Some, don't know, we're still sorting that out, but at least one guy is a known Antifa, Black Lives Matter activist, violent guy from Utah, one of them. But people didn't anticipate this because heretofore, for the most part, the Trump rallies have been peaceful, and most of the people again there were peaceful. All of a sudden, the media has forgotten that term that they love so much called mostly peaceful. They've also forgotten that term they love so much called defund the police. Why weren't the police there? Why wasn't there more of a police presence? Remember that— was it the mayor of Baltimore who said we gave the rioters space to destroy?

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And I tell you what, it's law and order when you want to smear Republicans, but it's a peaceful protest when you're burning the city down for the devil.

Well, that's, you know, unfortunately, Lance, many of us know that exactly what you're saying, that that is true. So the question is, what do we do? In other words, will we have the ability going forward to keep the Republic?

I mean, that's the question.

I have said that if Biden gets in either way, fraudulently or legitimately, he and his folks are gonna take us down a path that destroys our ability to recover.

It is important that we, in our movement, Recognize we are a movement and that Donald Trump is willing to still lead that movement. And that movement is going to redefine politics in the Republican Party. And that movement is going to damage the Democrats. And what we must be aware of is what happened yesterday cannot ever happen again. We can't give them the gift of having us for a moment do anything. That is unrighteous because they could be unrighteous all day and will never call themselves out. But if they bait us into participating in something they do, it's us that's going to get in trouble. It's like the kid in school who knows how to do something bad, and it's always when turns around their straight face and the goofy kid who participated, that's the one the teacher caught. That's us. So, so we got to start with, and I mean this sincerely, no violence, because they would love to come for the guns of of lawful people, just like they want to come for the freedom of speech of God's most righteous people.

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I mean, there's a lot of Republicans Oh, okay, thank you, CNN. Rush to CNN. You shouldn't give CNN the time of day.

Why?

Anybody you see on CNN or any of these, any of these anti-Republican, anti-conservative outlets, that speaks volumes. It speaks volumes. If you're cozying up to the media elites, you are telling the world Who you really are. Again, I love this, this comment I saw on social media last night gave me a little bit of hope after a despondent evening. Fun fact, the ruling elite are terrified of an angry general populace. Listen, they despise people like Ron DeSantis because he stands up to jerks like that lady.

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We only deal in the facts, and Katie Pavlich has given them to us. Yes, there were thousands of peaceful Trump supporters that marched to Capitol Hill and that surrounded the building. There were others that broke the law and that gained entry to that building and did damage to that building. But some of the people who were there disguised as Trump supporters were in fact BLM and Antifa.

Will we ever get to the bottom of what really happened?

We are 12 days away from Biden taking over in his installation of Merrick Garland as the Attorney General of the United States. So no, don't hold your breath for some official judicial conclusion or even a prosecution of these individuals because that's not in their interests. BLM is peaceful. Didn't you know that? Antifa doesn't exist. It's just an idea. But as long as we have great people like Katie Pavlich and my colleagues at Town Hall and at Salem, we will give you the truth. Because that's why we exist. That's why we are here. That's why this radio show broadcasts to you every day of the week for 3 hours. Now more than ever, it's crucial that you share this information, that you propagate the knowledge you receive from this show.

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Hi everybody, it's the Ultimate Issues Hour, the third hour Tuesday. Some great issue of life, and I have decided to truly leave the world of politics and censorship and the great Civil War of America and move to a completely separate subject for the Ultimate Issues Hour. And it will, it will, I think, surprise you Not necessarily positively, not necessarily negatively. I just think it will surprise you what I have chosen. And I'm not even sure that— I know I've discussed the subject, but I don't, I don't think I've ever discussed it in terms of an Ultimate Issues Hour theme. And the subject is divorce. And I am going to make the moral case for it, and I know many of you don't agree, and I certainly respect that, and I'd like to hear from you. I think this is, by the way, since I'm, I'm very open about all these things, I think it is one of the very few Jewish-Christian differences. I'm not talking theology. Of course there are differences theologically, but it's one of the few differences that emanate from the religion itself. I think the traditional Christian view is that outside of adultery, there, there are no grounds for divorce. It's, uh, that's the, that's the Protestant view in the In the Catholic view, if I, if I understand it correctly, and I am a lifelong student of Christianity, uh, the Catholic Church does, does not have— except unless there's an annulment, you can of course separate from your spouse, that's your business, but there's no, there's no such thing as divorce and remarriage, that it is for life. The, the Jewish view— I mean, I'm talking about the traditional, not, not even liberal Jewish view. The traditional Jewish view is that, that it is a tragedy, but it is a bigger tragedy to live in misery forever, at least forever on this earth. But I'm not going to deal with it religiously. I just wanted to acknowledge my awareness of a difference. But I want to make the moral case for divorce with a proposition you've never heard, and that is that if you cannot be fired from a job, the chances are you will not engage in it as responsibly as you would if you could be fired. Marriage is a job, and if you don't handle it properly, you should be capable of being fired. That's what divorce is. Are there divorces that are too easily gotten into? There are marriages that are too easily gotten into. There, there, there are divorces that are too easy. It's irrelevant. It's not the point. Of course there are. So therefore what? So the abused spouse— forget physical abuse, okay— the, the constantly abused spouse must stay together? Must stay in the marriage to have his or her life on an almost daily basis be the target of abuse? Let me tell you a story. This I think I've told, but I expect nobody to remember it, but it is really powerful. My first job in radio, which I did this for 10 years 2 hours a night, a week, called Religion on the Line in Los Angeles. I was the moderator. A Catholic priest, Protestant minister, and Jewish rabbi were the guests each week, different ones each week. So I met hundreds and hundreds of clergy. After 5 years of doing it, I opened it up to every other faith in the world, literally every. So I had an immersion in religious thought. So one night I decided the subject would be divorce. You know, what is you— what is your— and what is your religion's view on divorce? And they all spoke about it in in negative terms, including the rabbi, and all said that people divorce way too easily today. And this was the 1980s. Okay, so what I did in this program was I let them all give this their first opening comments. I said nothing. Then once they all finished, I might ask questions and then have them answer. That's what generally I did. So I asked them a question after they all finished speaking. Said, you all said people, uh, get divorced way too easily. So I began with I always went Protestant, Catholic, Jew in the opening statements, and then Jew, Catholic, Protestant went the other way around when I asked questions. So I began with the rabbis. Rabbi, do you know anybody well who divorced? Said, well, as it happens, my mother divorced. My mother divorced my father. Said, did she engage in it too easily? Said, are you kidding? No way. But it turned out that she just had to, and it was the best thing she ever did. Thank you, Rabbi. Pastor, do you— excuse me, the Catholic father. In fact, I remember who the father was. He was a dear friend of mine. Gregory Coiro passed away a few years ago. I love that man. He's very special. He was human being. So, Father Greg, do you know anybody well who divorced? Said, well, as it happens, my mother divorced my father, just like the rabbi. Fascinating. And I said, well, did she do it too easily, or easily at all? Said, actually, I believe that the divorce saved my mother's life. I'll never forget his words. I went to the pastor. Pastor, do you know anybody well who's divorced? Yeah, my brother's going through a divorce. Is he engaged in it too easily? Well, uh, not at all, Dennis. In fact, they've been seeing a marital therapist for years trying, trying to stay together. I think my point is pretty, uh, powerful here, my dear listeners. What we have here is people saying people divorce way too easily, but the people they know who divorced didn't divorce way too easily. I don't know anybody who divorced way too easily. Maybe I know one. I don't know, it's a maybe. Tough question. Overwhelmingly, it is traumatizing to go through a divorce. Very few people do it too easily. I'm not talking about Hollywood. I don't even know if they do, but it seems to the outsider that marriage is too big a commitment for many. I don't say this is an attack, it just seems that way, but it's irrelevant. So there is a moral case for divorce. 1-8-Prager-776. 877-243-7776. This is the Ultimate Issues Hour. The ultimate issue is marriage. Marriage and divorce, specifically divorce.

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You know what? I saw Ron DeSantis say something the other day that really, really got to me. He said the highlight of my life, of my job, of my existence is to have people come up to me now and with tears in their eyes and say, thank you, Governor DeSantis. Thanks to you, my family still has an income. I still have a job. Thanks to you, I've been able to survive this horrific year. You, you should see New York. Oh my goodness, it's terrible what New Yorkers have experienced and are continuing to experience. And believe me, look at the comparisons of New York and Florida. It's very apt. So here's Governor DeSantis at that press conference where a CNN reporter was strutting around like a peacock trying to embarrass him and talk over him. And he completely bested her with this exchange.

What has gone wrong with the rollout of the vaccine that we've seen phone lines jammed, websites crash.

A lot of demand. I mean, I think at the end of the day— excuse me, excuse me, if I could finish my question. You just said what has gone wrong, so I'm answering the question.

If I could complete the question though.

So you're going to give a speech or you're going to answer, ask a question?

We've seen websites crash and also senior citizens waiting overnight for the vaccine.

Where was that at?

We've seen it in Duval, Broward, Orange, and Lee.

Why was there a big line? Did you, did you investigate why?

Could you tell us?

Because we We distributed vaccine to hospitals and the hospital said first come, first serve. If you show up, we'll do it.

See, I mean, these CNN clowns aren't interested in any kind of answers. She doesn't care about a response. She wants to posture and behave more like an activist than a reporter.

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I'm watching this thing and I'm looking at this horrific scene of how these people breach the Capitol building, hoping nobody gets hurt, hoping the officers are able to maintain order, hoping there's no destruction of valuable artifacts and things like that in that building. How this looks, but from terrorists, they're saying how easy it is to breathe. That's what I'm thinking about. It never occurred to me to go, you know what, Larry, I wonder what would have happened had these people been largely Black people. I guess I had other things on my mind. But if you want to play that game, let's play that game. Holding in my baby brown libertarian fingers, articles from the Wall Street Journal, April 27, 2016, headline: This study found race matters in police shootings, but the results may surprise you. In the article, very detailed, I urge you to go get it yourself. We have it up on larryoddy.com, and it goes through a very thorough analysis of how studies, analyses, research back to the '70s show the police more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger on Black suspects than on white suspects. Washington State, over a series of years, 3 studies, all of which reached the same conclusion: officers were 3 times more hesitant to pull the trigger against a Black suspect than a white suspect. So you want to play this game about what would have happened had the protesters been Black? The likelihood is They would have pulled back even more and the building would have been trashed more.

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Governor, you were the first of the major Republican Republican contenders in 2016 to endorse the president. Do you regret that decision?

I do not, Hugh. I do not because I knew when I—

some great issue of life. One of the great issues is marriage and divorce, specifically divorce. I, I'm arguing morally for it when there's a truly bad relationship. I want to make it clear, all things considered, I wish people would stay together. In fact, uh, the irony is, whereas many people— some people, I don't know how many— believe that adultery is the one grounds for divorce. I actually believe that adultery should not automatically end a marriage. A chronic adulterer is one thing, uh, but one who has, uh, given into the weakness of the flesh and who was otherwise a good person— I don't think the weakness of the flesh should end the marriage. Automatically, let's put it that way. So while I'm making the moral case for divorce, my preference is that people stay together. It always breaks my heart when people break up. I've been divorced and it's heartbreaking, and it is, but it doesn't mean it's not necessary or morally called for. My moral argument is, is a very stark one. And I will repeat it: marriage is a job. That's not a negative. I love, I love jobs. In fact, jobs are great. That's why jobless is not generally considered a good condition. So let me make that clear. But it is a job. It is, it is a task. And if you fail at your job, you can be fired. Why isn't that true of marriage? If you fail at your job, you could be fired. One of the reasons people work hard at any job is they know that they can be fired. I want people to work hard at their marriage. But if you know, no matter how crappily I treat my spouse, no matter how much I take him or her for granted, they will never leave me— isn't that an invitation to continue your irresponsible spousehood? That's my argument. I don't know why that is not, um, is not a good argument. All righty, everybody, let's go to your calls. Let's go to George in Charlotte, North Carolina. Hello, George.

Dennis, uh, good to speak with you. You're, you're a great man. You helped me so much in my life.

Um, thank you. Good.

Just want— just, uh, yes. So I'm currently going through a divorce and there was adultery involved, but it's not even the main reason. And I'm a Christian as well. But like you said, it's such a process and it's such a decision, a hard decision to make where I— it's so funny, I was reading your comment yesterday on your website, something about marriage, you know, something to consider before marriage. And you speak about friendships and I'm a big believer in having other people's input or kind of this neutral view of your situation in your marriage. But, um, there comes a point where a person is, you know, from their past, you know, they are so mentally messed up that it could be a nightmare to stay with them, you know.

That's right, that's right.

You know, it's like, uh, like, uh, some people with borderline personality and narcissism. Some people are so severe on the, uh, on the spectrum that it's, it's, it's like you have to just throw your hands up and say, what else can I do?

That's right. That is exactly right. My heart goes out to you. This is not what you signed up for, as it were. I have another moral argument. I thank you very much. I wish you well, and I think things will be good for you. Ultimately. It's a very hard period. So I have another statement about, about marriage, and that is a bad marriage is life imprisonment, and life imprisonment should only be reserved for murderers. It's not, it's not fair to ask somebody who's decent and kind and good to have life imprisonment. I always want to add, you should do everything possible to stay together. I'm making the case for divorce assuming that you've done whatever you can to stay together. Lana, or Lena, or Lana, in Naples, Florida. Hello.

Hello.

Hi.

Um, love your show. And, um, back in the late '60s, early '70s, I got married way too young. I was 17 years old. I was a virgin because that's what you did back then. And I married a man who was verbally, mentally mentally and physically abusive to me. But we were brought up at my, uh, stage of life back then in the small town to stay married, and I stayed too long. And my— I had 3 children with him, and my 2 older children because I stayed 13 years were detrimentally affected. They, they have had problems since teenage, and they're now in their 50s and are still having issues with drugs and alcohol and whatnot. And I have learned that I've done and can support only as much as I can, and there's nothing I can do to change that. And I have turned that over to God.

Well, I agree with you. You have adopted the attitude of a caller to my show many years ago. She helped countless lives when she said it, and by my repeating it to countless people about her 30-something-year-old daughter who was chronically problematic. She said, I adopted the view, I didn't break her, I can't fix her. And that is what Lana in Naples, Florida has realized. I hadn't even thought of that, by the way. If the, the troubled spouse's effect on, on children, if you have children. That's right, that's another argument for it. I don't have a romantic view of life. The romantic view of life is, well, you just stay together and you work it out. I wish that were true, but there are, there are times when it just isn't. Some of you feel differently, and I want to take those calls. It's a very important subject. In effect, you might title it The Morality of Divorce. We'll be back. Ultimate Issues Hour, Dennis Prager Show.

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I watch a lot of CNN and MSNBC, so you don't have to. I got the scars to prove it. Let me tell you something. Trump talked about the rally. He wanted people to come to D.C. Nobody said, uh-oh, 5 people are going to be killed because these guys are going to assault the Capitol building. Oh my goodness, nobody said that. The most severe pathological hateful Trump hater. Never said that. Nobody said that. How many Trump rallies have there been? When have you seen this? That's why they weren't ready. Didn't think it was going to happen. Hadn't happened before. And there is some evidence that some of the people there were outside agitators, infiltrators. Some don't know, we're still sorting that out, but at least one guy is a known Antifa, Black Lives Matter activist, violent guy from Utah, one of them. But people didn't anticipate this because heretofore, for the most part, the Trump rallies have been peaceful, and most of the people again there were peaceful. All of a sudden, the media has forgotten that term that they love so much called mostly peaceful. They've also forgotten that term they love so much called defund the police. Why weren't the police there? Why wasn't there more of a police presence? Remember that— was it the mayor of Baltimore who said we gave the rioters space to destroy?

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Law and order. I tell you what, it's law and order when you want to smear Republicans, but it's a peaceful protest when you're burning the city down for the devil.

Well, that's, you know, unfortunately, Lance, many of us know that exactly what you're saying, that that is true. So the question is, what do we do? In other words, will we have the ability going forward to keep the republic? I mean, that's the question. I have said that if Biden gets in either way, fraudulently or legitimately, he and his folks are gonna take us down a path that destroys our ability to recover.

It is important that we, in our movement, Recognize we are a movement and that Donald Trump is willing to still lead that movement. And that movement is going to redefine politics in the Republican Party. And that movement is going to damage the Democrats. And what we must be aware of is what happened yesterday cannot ever happen again. We can't give them the gift of having us for a moment do anything. That is unrighteous because they could be unrighteous all day and will never call themselves out. But if they bait us into participating in something they do, it's us that's going to get in trouble. It's like the kid in school who knows that it's something bad and it's always when turns around their straight face and the goofy kid who participated, that's the one the teacher caught. That's us. So, so we got to start with, and I mean this sincerely, no violence because they would love to come for the guns of of lawful people, just like they want to come for the freedom of speech of God's most righteous people.

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I mean, there's a lot of Republicans.

Okay, thank you.

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Why? They don't hear me at all. Hello? Hello? Are you hearing me well? Wow, wow, wow. All right, something happened here. Here we go. Renowned political science professor Carol Swain started out life with every possible disadvantage. She ended up teaching at two of the most prestigious universities in the country. How did she do it? She shares her story and her wisdom in the new Prager University video. See it at prageru.com, where we teach what isn't taught. That is so inspiring. You got to show it to every young person in particular. A woman who grew up in poverty and became a great success, a black woman. That's the truth about America, much more than the truth than the lies that the kids are getting at school. All right, this is the Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. For those of you new to the show, this is every Tuesday, every Tuesday the 3rd. Hour of the show. Today's subject is a toughie: the morality of divorce. My thinking on this is that anything that you cannot be fired from, most people will not do as well as if they know they can be fired. There are a lot of divorces that meet that criterion. Somebody just didn't step up to the plate. It's a good analogy— baseball player. If you, uh, if you take for granted that you're on the team and that no matter how much you don't try to get a hit when you're up and don't field well, you'll— you can't be fired from the team you, you won't play well. I think the, uh, the curse of everything in life, everything emanates from taking it or something or someone for granted. What has happened in this country is people take this country for granted and it will be ruined. And I never exaggerate. It is already being ruined by people who take it for granted. You take your spouse for granted, you have ruined your marriage. It's the way it works. Take your health for granted, you'll ruin your health. All right everybody, let's see who, uh, doesn't agree with me. Here we go. Or does— has different experience. Cheryl, Manhattan Beach, California.

Hello.

Hello, Dennis. You are one of the people I admire most in the world, and I agree. I'm one of those that agrees with you on almost everything, and I don't know that I disagree with you on this. My experience is that my dad was married effectively 4 times, and I do believe that he divorced too early. Um, he— if there are 10 characteristics in a woman, my mother was 1 through 5, my stepmother 6 through 10, his third gal back 1 through 5, and the final one 6 through 10. At one point in time when he was with the fourth gal, I said, Dad, you seeing a pattern here? You know, maybe you just need to like figure out which ones are the most important characteristics in a woman and stick with it because you're not going to get all 10. But the really, the bigger point that I really wanted to make here, and there may be a distinction, by the way, between marriages with children and without. And I do agree with you, there is a balance balance in life where we need the balance in marriage security so you feel like you can be who you are, but also not take the person for granted. So there is a balance there. I think you do need to know that you have to work hard in marriage. But what I've been wanting to ask you about is, do you think that the fact that divorce is now so accepted has an impact on the larger society and the division and the polarization that we're seeing right now? Now because children are seeing when divorces occur— and this is why I think there may be a distinction between marriages with and without— when children see if you have a difference with somebody, what you do is you just isolate them from your life and you remove them rather than try to live in harmony based on whatever you have in common, i.e., the best interest of the children. People are seeing what you do is you just vilify and walk away rather than hang in there and figure out how to live together. What are your thoughts?

Well, my thoughts are, number one, to have a caller of your intelligence is an honor to me. Everybody knows I do not patronize callers. Sometimes I say the opposite. So that's number one. Number two, everything you said is true. And that is— it doesn't negate anything that I have said, and nothing that I have said negates what you have said. I've, I've had shows where I have asked adults, if your parents divorced, do you think they did— now that you're an adult, do you think they did the right or wrong thing? And there was no unanimous reaction, but I will report to you what some of the reactions were. I think they were very enlightening. I should do that program again. I should do an hour of that again. You could say that the Dennis Prager Show— you could give it a name— Explore Life, that would be an example. I'll tell you about a, uh, about a product that I have been using. It was so effective in my opinion, I called them up. I've maybe done this 3 times in my life. Would you like to advertise on my show because you have helped me so much? I have neuromas in both my feet, and it's, it's a genetic thing. I didn't do any— there was no injury. I didn't do anything wrong, so to speak. Just is. It's the way my, my feet are, and it's tingling and pins. And I, I had inserts put in after a year of Nerve Renew. The pain isn't all gone, but it is so, so much better. I threw away my inserts. 2-week free trial of Nerve Renew at Nerve Renew .com.

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I'm watching this thing and I'm looking at this horrific scene of how these people breached the Capitol Building. Hoping nobody gets hurt, hoping the officers are able to maintain order, hoping there's no destruction of valuable, uh, uh, you know, artifacts and things like that in that building. How this looks by— but from terrorists, they're saying how easy it is to be— that's what I'm thinking about. It never occurred to me to go, you know what, Larry, I wonder what would have happened had these people been largely Black people. I, I guess I had other things on my mind, but If you want to play that game, let's play that game. Holding in my baby brown libertarian fingers, article from the Wall Street Journal, April 27, 2016. Headline: This study found race matters in police shootings, but the results may surprise you. In the article, very detailed, I urge you to go get it yourself. We have it up on LarryOwens.com, and it goes through a very thorough analysis of how studies, analyses, research back to the '70s show the police more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger on Black suspects than on white suspects. Washington State, over a series of years, 3 studies, all of which reached the same conclusion: officers were 3 times more hesitant to pull the trigger against a black suspect than a white suspect. So you want to play this game about what would have happened had the protesters been black? The likelihood is they would have pulled back even more and the building would have been trashed more.

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Governor, you were the first of the major Republican contenders in 2016 to endorse the president. Do you regret that decision?

I do not, Hugh. I do not, because I knew when I dropped out of that race and then after the South Carolina primary that none of the other people on the stage were going to beat Donald Trump. He was going to be the Republican nominee, and I was completely committed In fact, in some ways desperate to make sure that Hillary Clinton was not the next president of the United States. When you look at the tax cuts, the regulation cuts, most importantly the judicial nominees, the problem is that the president's behavior at times has obscured his accomplishments.

I agree. The JCPOA and the Abraham Accords, there's a great list. Will that now always have appended to it, as Nixon has resignation appended to him, the riot and insurrection?

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All right, everybody, The Ultimate Issues, our third hour on Tuesdays. The subject today is a biggie: divorce, the moral question and morality of divorce. My bottom line is that you should try whatever you can do to stay together. However, at a given point, I believe that it is not the moral thing to do to just be in something toxic. And of course, people can too easily use that term. Everything is, everything is abusable. There is, there is no nothing that guarantees good results. So, but it's not an argument against the concept. So the question was raised about the, the children issue. It's a very fair question. So I have done a number of hours on the question of, do you think your parents divorced too easily? Or, or even better, do you wish your parents had stayed together now that you're an adult? Some did, but most of those who called in either said no, they had to divorce, or I couldn't wait for them to divorce. Divorce doesn't usually happen— it has— does happen in a very calm and loving home, and then one day it's over. That does happen, and I have to say that that's the most painful to hear about. I should do an hour on that too, but I have done an hour on that. Were you divorced by somebody who all of a sudden just woke up one day? I have a friend, actually a male friend, that happened to. It was astonishing. It still astonishes me. This happened about a year ago, and he said, my wife just said I'm not happy, I'm leaving. 4, I think, 4 kids. And, and I— it happens to women too, obviously. Men just You know, without falling in love with somebody else, just I'm out. And I think unless it's really, really bad that the ideal is to stay together, but there is a lot that's really, really bad. My bottom line is the line I gave you, that marriage is a job. And if you think you can never be fired, you won't generally do your job well. All righty, everybody, uh, let's go to Jeff in Seattle, Washington. Hello, Jeff.

How you doing?

I'm well, thank you.

So I just had a thought I want to discuss with you. But, you know, in biblical times, which is where I root my foundation sense of morality, and I know you do as well, from, from what scripture says. There were severe consequences for infidelity from the community, and there were severe consequences for abusing one's spouse, perhaps even being stoned to death. And you live in a society now where that just doesn't exist, those types of incentives, if you will, to not take for granted your spouse. So I was just wondering how that plays into what you're saying. Like, if we lived in a different society where there were stricter consequences to people misbehaving in marriage, do you still think you'd— do you still think we'd see the level of comfort that people do with getting divorced and the prevalence of divorce?

Well, there are two separate issues. Tell me if I hear you correctly, that there are two separate ones. One is the consequences of adultery, meaning consequences by society's punishment, and the other is about divorce generally. They're not the same subject. Is that, is that fair?

Uh, sure, but I think they're related in that if there were consequences—

well, no, but there weren't— no, there were, there were consequences biblically to adultery. There were not consequences by for divorce. I know my Bible well. You were not punished by society for divorcing. You were punished by society for adultery.

Fair enough, but one often leads to the other, right?

So that brings a third question: should adultery automatically lead to divorce? Now, there are religious folks who say yes, and Uh, I, I, given that God does not like divorce, I don't think that God would say no matter how much you can work this out, don't. Somebody had a weeknight, W-E-A-K, not weeknight, W-E-K, uh, in, uh, in Dayton, Ohio, and that should end your divorce and end your family. So ironically, whereas I do believe in divorce, I don't believe adultery should automatically lead to it. The question is, society— well, society did. Society looked down upon divorce much more in the past than, than it does today. So let me tell you another story. I I once had a dialogue with the head of the Los Angeles Jewish Law Court. A Jew who marries under Judaism's laws has to divorce under Judaism's laws. So you have to have a get, the Hebrew word for divorce, through a beth din, a Jewish law court. The head of the one in LA that I spoke to many years ago is a bearded man from East Europe, or what they would call an ultra-Orthodox Jew. So we were, we were talking, and I said, it must be difficult for you in Los Angeles with so much divorce, coming from Eastern Europe as you, as you have, much more traditional life. And he said, Mr. Prager, as it happens, there wasn't enough divorce in Eastern Europe. I was shocked. A lot of people who should have divorced didn't. He was a very aware man of the number of people living in misery, staying together because society had told them you can't divorce. My dear friends, This all goes under the heading of life is messy. The human condition is a difficult one. We'll be back in a moment.

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We only deal in the facts, and Katie Pavlich has given them to us. Yes, there were thousands of peaceful Trump supporters that marched to Capitol Hill and that surrounded the building. There were others that broke the law and that gained entry to that building and did damage to that building. But some of the people who were there disguised as Trump supporters were in fact BLM and Antifa.

Will we ever get to the bottom of what really happened?

We are 12 days away from Biden taking over in his installation of Merrick Garland as the Attorney General of the United States. So no, Don't hold your breath for some official judicial conclusion or even a prosecution of these individuals because that's not in their interests. BLM is peaceful. Didn't you know that? Antifa doesn't exist. It's just an idea. But as long as we have great people like Katie Pavlich and my colleagues at Town Hall and at Salem, we We will give you the truth because that's why we exist. That's why we are here. That's why this radio show broadcasts to you every day of the week for 3 hours. Now more than ever, it's crucial that you share this information. That you propagate the knowledge you receive from this show.

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The last year we have seen BLM incorporated rioters burn down the cities of our country with very little to any of arrests happen. We saw Antifa go after conservatives and kill a conservative in the street of Portland. We saw the Russia hoax and zero people be held accountable to it, from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page to Brennan to Clapper. We saw this entire voter fraud nonsense unfold. We saw the Ukrainian impeachment hoax earlier in the year. Hillary has never been even close to being indicted for what she did from the Clinton Foundation or from Uranium One. How about Hunter Biden? You think Hunter Biden's ever going to serve serious time in jail? How about the lockdowns? I don't trust any institution that exists anymore in our country, and you shouldn't either. I don't trust many of our leaders that legislate. I don't trust our corporations. I don't trust our universities.

Do you divorce? The morality of divorce? I work very hard on the Male-Female Hour. I don't know how many years that is, 15 years or so. That's tomorrow, second hour every Wednesday, to try to make things better for couples. And I do believe that I've helped a lot of marriages. That's the, that's the feedback that I get But I decided to do one, at least one time here, that as troubling as divorce is— and it is troubling— as traumatic as it is— and it is— there are many times, not a few times, when it is morally called for. And I, I have this view, as I said at the beginning. If you are in a job that you think you can never be fired from, you will probably take the job for granted. Tina in California: people rarely divorce well with sensitivity. A lot of people don't. That is correct. The use of children as a weapon against the other spouses. One of the ugliest parts of divorce. Detroit, Michigan. Michael, one problem in marriage is society does not support marriage the way it used to. It's worse than that, Michael. It doesn't even encourage people to get married. And let me say to those young people who say, I don't want to get divorced, my parents divorced, that is to me as rational saying I don't want to drive a car because my parents had a car crash. Michael in Fort Worth, Texas: Catholics do have an annulment process, do not condone quick divorce. Nobody condones quick divorce, but, uh, the annulment process, well, that's its own complex issue, especially if you're married for a while and have children. But I thank you. Michelle, St. Petersburg, Florida, separated 3 years. Narcissism is a big problem in marriages that fail. Michelle, no kidding, that's correct. Uh, let's see. Tommy in Caldwell, New Jersey, his wife left him after 30 years, does not feel they exhausted all possibilities. Tommy, I wish I could could talk to your ex-wife leaving after 30 years. My heart breaks for you, my friend. And Randy in Columbus, Ohio: Jesse, 23 years old, in Greenville. Divorce is rarely a moral good. I don't know that that's true. Speak to people who've divorced. It's a lot of pain out there. That's why I have a male-female hour, to hopefully make it better. Okay everybody, it was a joy not talking about politics. I'm Dennis Prager. I'll see you tomorrow. All right, I'm turning it off.