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And a good day, everybody. It is Thursday, September 16th, and it's the Dennis Prager Show. Glad you are here. My job is to make you okay that I'm here. It's the quandary, the conundrum of the fill-in host. But hey, we've done so much time together, there's, there's a certain residual level of familiarity. It's Mark Davis, your DFW talk show buddy, happy morning show host here at 6:60 AM, the answer on the Salem Media Group Proud North Texas property. And as I always do when I get to fill in for Dennis, who's off just today, he'll be back tomorrow, uh, the best show prep in the world is doing my own program, and I'm fresh off that exercise today. And man, did we go around the block a few times about General Milley, and we're going to do that with you, 1-800-PRAGER-776. What is with this guy? Is it fair? Or unfair that so many people are just presuming that the book from which this story of his treachery comes— the book is called Peril by Bob Woodward, so there's a little bit of an asterisk there— and Robert Costa. Costa is one of the best reporters working. And Woodward, you know, I know that a lot of people kind of shrug and go, yeah, it was Bob Woodward. Yeah, but it's Bob Woodward. I mean, dude's been writing books for half a century, and the vast, vast majority of even his more creative narratives have stood the test of time. Woodward does not rest on some discredited ash heap of people who make stuff up. Uh, plenty of authors are to be found there. Woodward, not generally one of them. So, but there are other reasons why I am lending credibility to the Milley-China treasonous, treacherous, attach your own adjective, phone call. And I'll share a little bit of detail about why that is, and you may agree or differ or anything in between at 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. As the official space dork of talk radio locally and nationally, We got these 4 folks circling the globe like right now. They've been up there for, you know, since about 6, 7 o'clock my time. I'm in Central Time. And it's just remarkable. There's not an astronaut in there. It's like 4 private citizens. Now they didn't go drag them off the street and say, you're going tomorrow. There was a bunch of training, a bunch of familiarity, and a bunch of, you know, prep that went into this. It's called Inspiration4, and I am mightily inspired by it. I am a grizzled veteran of the days when only astronauts went, and even our scientists or our payload specialists in the shuttle, you know, they weren't fighter pilots, but they were certainly trained in the NASA astronaut program. Ain't none of these people got that training. Uh, one of them ponied up, you know, a couple hundred mil, I don't know. And a lot of it goes to St. Jude, a lot of it goes to charity, and that's great. Uh, people are talking about it ushering in the era of space tourism. It probably does. And everybody asks me, because I've been, you know, geeked out on this since I'm 10, if not longer actually, hey Mark, uh, would you want to go? Okay, if I'm 25 and single, absolutely. But I'm 63 and I have a wife and 2 kids And, um, I, I can't die right now. That would really be bad. So I will leave it, uh, I will leave it to others. Not that I would expect to perish, but as I watched this thing last night, and I, and I don't know, is this Shuttle Challenger syndrome, which is, you know, January of 1986? Um, Shuttle Columbia syndrome, which disintegrated over my house in the skies of Texas, uh, 15 years later. Bad things don't happen so often. They really don't. But every once in a while they do. And as I watch these 4 souls strapped into the top of this bomb for the SpaceX launch last night, you know how many millions of pounds of volatile stuff is crammed into that thing so they can reach 17,000 miles an hour and, uh, and, and reach orbit? Uh, So it's funny, everybody thinks that I— that if I had the— like, if, if somebody places the phone call, it, like, on the air here in the Dennis Prager Show and offers me the chance to go, I would totally have to think about it and would ultimately decline because I can't die right now. That would just really, really be bad. Got a wife I love, kids I love, a job I love. And what would happen if Dennis takes the day off? I mean, I've got considerations here. Hey, speaking of, uh, hosts here on the Salem Radio Network, do you know Do you know what happens one hour from now? I stumbled across a pretty great moment in radio, and obviously among the things we'll talk about today is the California recall. It didn't exactly go the way I wanted, didn't exactly go the way you wanted if you were a conservative, didn't exactly go the way Larry Elder wanted. So what are Larry's thoughts? What are his takeaways? What's he going to do now? What, you know, is he like back on the air today? I don't think so. Uh, tomorrow? I mean, I'm a huge Carl Jackson fan. I think he's doing a fantastic job. He's been filling in for Larry ever since Larry hit the campaign trail because you can't exactly run for governor, do a talk show at the same time. Uh, okay, um, he's not going to be governor of California just yet, so right back to radio or other political things? Someone should ask Larry about this. I will in about 55 minutes because he will be our guest for his first post-election interview. That seems fitting right here on the company that employs him. Seems like that's a good fit, doesn't it? And I'm just stoked because Larry's been a friend of mine for a long time, and I can't wait. So, so, Larry— so what next for Larry? We'll ask Larry, and that'll be 1 hour from now, the first segment coming out of the next hour. Uh, you follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis. And, uh, okay, that's about it for the, the housekeeping and the things that I envision. Boy, can I, can I throw one other— this is big, it's heavy. I think I want to do it today because one of the great things about the show that I do locally and about when I have the enormous privilege of showing up and, and doing The Dennis Prager Show is whether it is some breaking news story or something that is political nuts and bolts and the deep weeds of ideology and policy, and I love all of that, but sometimes it's just time to do really broad conceptual theoretical stuff as Dennis does in the Ultimate Issues Hour, right? Well, I knock out an Ultimate Issues Hour like at will, 3, 4 times a week when it just occurs to me that there's some broad thing that we need to talk about. So get ready for the heavy lifting because, and I might start to put my toe in the pool of this very first hour, or I may wait until after Larry's come and gone. Of course, after Larry's here, we may have some stuff to talk about there. Here you go. You ready? Here you go. Here in my state of Texas, and by the way, it's, uh, the, the parade never ends here in Texas. Aren't we really like the most newsmaking state? I know California had the recall election. I know Florida has, I don't know, the likely next president of the United States. That'd be fine by me, and DeSantis. And that, those are, those are huge. But here in Texas, doggone it, man, Heartbeat Bill, constitutional carry, voter security that everybody says is voter suppression, which it's not. And it's like Texas cranks out something like every 3 days that makes, uh, national news. Well, our heartbeat law is, is creating quite the national stir because a lot of people think that it is a big step toward the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Now, I know I've gone through this with you guys before about Roe v. Wade, how it absolutely must be overturned, not because I'm pro-life or because the justices need to be conservative or anything like that. I don't care about the personal politics of any justice. I care about fidelity to the Constitution. Get it? I don't need the Supreme Court to do my political bidding. I need the Supreme Court to obey the Constitution, and there is no right to abortion in the Constitution. Hence, Roe v. Wade was invalid when ruled upon in 1973, remains invalid to this day, and it must go. I think we're on the way to that. And so can we count on John Roberts? I don't know. I know we can count on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Can we count on Kavanaugh and Gorsuch? I hope. But on the way there, along comes some states that pass some laws, and, um, and ours in Texas now, one of them with the heartbeat law, past 6 weeks, can't terminate that pregnancy. And we've gone about it in a crafty fashion. It's not the state has like abortion police I was like, yeah, you know, pull over, we realize what you've just done, and you and the doctor are going to jail. No, it's like civil suits where if you're aware of something, you can like file a suit against somebody. Some people like that, some people don't. But it's created a bunch of discussion of the rape and incest exception. There's an enormous misunderstanding about what that means morally, how that goes, what you must believe if you are indeed pro-life. So I'll go through that briefly with you next, start to take some calls, give you my general Milly logic and more. Mark Davison for Dennis.

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Israel is getting ready for their fourth jab. Now, some people— this is how dishonest the media is— they say, well, Israel in the last couple of days, they've seen their rates go down. Now, why do you think that COVID rates would be going down in Israel the last couple of days? Anybody? Is it because the vaccine, masks, No, it's because the high holidays, OK, people are staying at home and they're not going out and they're not working and they're not congregating. So they've locked down the country through basically pseudo-religious mandate. Israel and Sweden, if you look at the 7-day rolling average of new cases per 100,000, Sweden on this chart that has been published is right around 10%. Israel has far exceeded 100%. And in fact, there are more cases right now happening in America and the Western world than there were a year ago. And a very basic question should be, is the vaccine helping or is it hurting? What's the answer to that question? Why is it that rates keep on going up the more vaccinated we are? Well, Israel is the only country in the world that gives the third vaccination to everyone at ages 12+. A COVID passport is required for 12+. And by the way, let me just say, I'm a lover of Israel and Jerusalem. I don't know if I'm ever going back to Israel. I don't. I said this to one of my friends the other day who runs a great project there. He said, oh, you'll be coming back. I said, I don't know if I'll be welcome in Israel because I'm not getting vaccinated. I'm not doing any of this stuff. Numerous blockades throughout Israel and mask mandates. Where Sweden has no booster shots, no COVID passports, no, no lockdowns, and no masks.

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Any teacher who's taping masks to 9-year-olds' heads should be fired immediately. I mean, that's not— I'm not going out on a limb here to say that. Do you disagree with that?

Now, the lunatics who are so mask and vaccine crazed Go to townhall.com and click on the Town Hall TV button. And that's what people are doing right now, and, uh, they're saying, hey, that is not Dennis Prager. Hey, nothing gets by you. Mark Davison for Dennis today. Dennis is back tomorrow. Uh, as I get ready to, to deal with a couple of hot topics I've already brought up and go to your phone calls at 1-800-PRAGER-776 1-800-PRAGER-776. Hey, let's go to the movies. Warner Brothers Pictures presents Cry Macho from Clint Eastwood. Yes, Clint Eastwood. How legendary can a guy be? This comes the story of being lost and found. Clint is back as a one-time rodeo star, kind of a washed-up horse breeder, takes a job to bring back his ex-boss's young son from Mexico. They form an unlikely pair and face an unexpectedly challenging journey home, and the only road home is through redemption. Cry Macho with Clint Eastwood. How awesome is this? It is in theaters and on HBO Max for 31 days. Check it out. Rated PG-13, may be inappropriate for children under 13. Okay, so, um, the rape and incest exception. How many times have you heard somebody say— how many times have you heard a politician say, well, I'm pro-life, And I'm, you know, as far as I'm concerned, let's outlaw all abortion except for rape and incest. Okay, that is not a pro-life politician. You are not a pro-life person if you say that. Here's where the heavy lifting begins. You know, it's, it is not an easy thing. It is a sobering thing. It is a, a thing of great gravity. To address, shall we say, the community of people who have been victims of rape and incest and say, guess what, it is immoral for you to terminate that pregnancy. It just is. But I've been raped, they'll say. I understand, and I'll never walk in those shoes. Obviously, the shoes of a rape victim are the shoes of a pregnant person.

I get that.

But unlike what Jen Psaki might tell you on a given day, men get to weigh in on this too, because it is in fact a human life issue and not just a women's issue. And here's the bottom line: that newly created life, no matter its circumstance, is either sacred or it's not. The basis of all pro-life-ness is that the unborn human life is sacred. Not just the thing that's kind of of some value and a thing we'd like to preserve if, you know, there's no inconveniences or no bad circumstance. Sacred. Sacred means sacred. You either believe that or you don't. If you believe that abortion becomes okay if there's rape and incest, then you don't believe in the sacredness of human life, of that unborn human life, and you are thus ready pro-choice. You may not be as radically pro-choice as somebody who says that abortion is okay if you just don't want a fifth kid or whatever, but you are nonetheless pro-choice. The definition of pro-life requires the definition of that unborn human life as sacred. And if it is, neither rape nor incest changes that. Got a big refresher course on that this morning. Had a woman named Jennifer Christie on the show. She's coming to DFTLG to do an event, and she has a website called lovelouder.com or org. I'll look it up here in a minute. Love Louder. Her name is Jennifer Christie, and she has a 7-year-old boy. Who many of you think should not exist if you had that rape and incest exception banging around in your head. So, and I asked her, because it's the question everybody always asks, how do you look at that, that boy and not think of the man who did this horrible thing to you? And she said, well, um, I worried like on the delivery table, you know, would I see this child and just instantly be taken back to that horrible moment? And it just didn't happen. In every moment that I love my son Every moment that I love my son, and thank you, Sean, he says that love louder, uh, com or org work. Every moment that I've enjoyed my son from his first month of life, his first year, his second, his third, his fourth, his fifth, his sixth, he turns seven here in a week. I, of course, I don't, of course I don't think about what happened to me. I think about the gift that he is despite what happened to me. I think about the, the love of God who remains in control, and, um, and, and that's what, uh, that's what rules the day every day. So, um, while we're on that subject, it's what I do at the beginning of each, uh, each local show. So hey, if people are nice enough to let me be a guest around here, I'll bring, uh, bring this practice into here as well as we get ready to tackle a bunch of topics. I haven't even gotten to General Milley yet. I will. But Lord, guide us and protect us as we face the challenges of each new day. We thank you every day for this blessed nation and your hand in creating it. Please fill our hearts with the energy to protect the freedoms which come from you, which our nation was founded to protect. Speaking of protection, Lord, protect and watch over our fellow Americans trapped in Afghanistan. Lord, be with us as we try to chart a course out of this COVID nightmare. Help us to be smart and safe as we reclaim our lives. Guide us to fight for our liberties within the law and by following your law. Let us navigate these troubling times with a positive spirit, treating others as we would want to be treated. Lord, these are times of trial and challenge. Lift us as we follow your word and work for a better America. Where our Constitution is honored, our elections are reliable, our borders work, where we fight for the unborn, and where our differences are hashed out with honesty and goodwill, and our freedoms of speech and worship are protected. As we face each day's problems, give us the clarity to look around and cherish our many blessings in our nation, our communities, and our families. If we follow you, Lord, we know we can get through anything. We ask these things in your holy name. Amen. All right, before I get to yammering about other things, let's hop to the calls. We're in Chatsworth, California. TJ, Mark Davison for Dennis. How you doing?

Hi, Mark. It's C as in Charles, but sorry about that.

TJ, CJ, nice to have you. Thank you.

Thank you. I was going to say about this, the stolen elections. You know, a lot of us believe that the Democrats accuse us of what they're doing so that we'll look the other way. And in 2016, when Hillary won the election, it would have been wrong of us to rub her nose in it because Trump won. But now that we're to the point where Trump loses to Biden and many of us believe he did not, and California, the secretary of state here was appointed by the guy we were recalling. It's time now that we get No doubt.

And the good news is I sense that activity all over the place in anticipation of '22 and '24. The gentleman's reference to Hillary is spectacular because when you talk about suggestions that the election just didn't go right, Hillary was the master of that through 2017, 2018, 2019. I think in the most timely interview that she agreed to. It was like October of 2020, a month before the election, and she was, you know, waxing nostalgic about her loss, which I often do as well because it's one of my recent pleasant memories, um, and says, how do you win by 3 million votes like I did, she says, and, and not think that something was squirrely? Really, ma'am? Really? So this notion that the Trump suggestion of mischief, fraud whatever, uh, is some, some, some shockingly new thing. Oh no, no, no, just about everybody that's ever lost an election thinks that something went wrong. All right, Mark Davison for Dennis. I get a few of the other things I haven't even gotten to yet. And grab a line, 1-800-PRAGER-776. Glad you're here. Mark in for Dennis, back in a sec.

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Congress is going to get to the bottom of what was, in retrospect, probably one of the worst mistakes of the last 3 months, which is abandoning our secure air base with a significant perimeter to protect against the exact kind of suicide bombing that claimed 13 American lives.

Now, I know an individual in General Milley's circle, and I am told exactly what you just said. They would not lift the cap on the troops. But my advice to this individual was, tell everyone you can to get a story straight, a timeline down, and every supporting document in one binder so that you do not have to change your story on timing or detail even once, or you'll have Benghazi on your hands. And I believe that the Pentagon would be well served to over-respond rather than under-respond at this point. What's your advice to the Pentagon, Senator, on how to respond to the queries, which will never stop until we have a day-by-day, hour-by-hour, minute-by-minute timeline and documents supporting a decision tree here?

Well, that, that sound advice, not only to the Pentagon, but to anyone, uh, in the administration. What Congress is not just going to move on from this fiasco. We're gonna get to the bottom of what happened. Then if the Democratic Congress right now won't do it, then we'll get to the bottom of it in early 2023 once Republicans have won back control of the Congress. Not just the Pentagon, but anyone who's involved in this needs to understand that Congress and the American people are going to insist upon answers. and they need to have those answers ready, and they need to be documented and demonstrated with evidence. Any kind of shifting explanation or political spin or CYA is going to be exposed.

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I really— I have to control myself, Jenna.

16th of September, Mark Davis in for Dennis Prager. Ah, the plight of General Milley, and I don't really mean his plight, I mean ours for having to endure another story of Trump-hating paranoia. A detail or two here in just a second. Let me hop back to the calls. A lot of calls on a lot of things. We are in Minneapolis. David, Mark Davis in for Dennis, how are you?

I am fine.

Nice to have you.

Yeah, uh, regarding your conversation about the rape and incest exception for abortion, I think if that is a— if there's a death penalty for that, it should be for the guilty and not the innocent. But yet we think we can take care of the innocent. So that's my only comment.

Well, okay, but, well, incest is certainly not a death penalty offense anywhere. And I think there might only be, there might only be 2 or 3 states where rape is.

Well, that's, there's a long history of problems with that, of it being racist, but there are less problems. There are more problems with killing the baby.

Oh, no doubt. I mean, because that's the obvious extinguishing of a human life, to be sure.

Yeah. So I'm saying if we are going to do it, then it should be for the guilty and not be innocent. And there's a big if there.

Yeah, there is. Um, it's, uh, but that— you've taken me into another thing that I'm fascinated by in jurisprudence. And thanks, David. And that is, what should we have the death penalty for? Um, man, maybe it's time for a roundtable on that. I'm in Texas. Are you? Please. Throughout history, we use the death penalty with such regularity that you can see the line move I— and that's— that is so 20 years ago. Now we're all stove up and, you know, all kinds of delays and doubts, and some of them are with good reason. Um, procedurally, people wonder about, um, the, the drug cocktail that gets used in, in Huntsville where our death row is. Um, every once in a while You'll have one of those pesky cases where somebody winds up in prison for 30 years for something, and then along comes— what do they call it— the Innocence Project. God bless these guys. Like, modern DNA evidence. Whoops, uh, you know, uh, Mr. Johnson didn't, uh, didn't do it. And they let this guy out. And you see these stories, and they're just thrilled, obviously. It's kind of funny. I always wonder, if you're in jail for something for 30 years and you didn't do it, and they finally go, oh wow, sorry, is there egg on our face? Wow, we are so embarrassed. You're free to go. Would you be— what would rule the day? Your joy at the freedom that you had longed for and deserved for 3 decades, or your unbelievable, bitter, soul-searing, uh, anger at the people who did this to you? I, I don't know. I'd like to think that the grace would wash over me and I'd be pretty upbeat about it, but left in a quiet moment to be like, really?

Really?

But I will tell you, down to the last person, every time I've seen this happen, they ultimately— I think you're just so doggone glad to be out, you know, hugging family members and going to the restaurant of your choice that, uh, that kind of swallows up the retroactive bitterness. Because it ultimately comes down to what can you do something about? You know, you're out, can't do anything about the— and, and they usually write pretty massive checks to people, don't they, who, uh, who've had this happen? And boy, they— which they should. Anyway though, the point being, what should there be a death penalty for? I'm an enormous believer in the death penalty. It is scriptural, it is symmetrical. In fact, it is because human life is sacred that we take yours if you kill somebody. As a conservative, you ever have somebody walk out, are you pro-life? Yeah. Are you for the death penalty?

Yeah.

I thought you were pro-life. Well, I am. It is innocent life that is sacred. Innocent life that is sacred. That's the scriptural precept. Death penalty is all over the Bible, please. And by the way, there's zero evidence that Jesus opposed it, so stop with that nonsense. So I, uh, I'm, I will always be an enormous supporter of the death penalty. Now, as soon as people start bringing up, you know, rape or anything else, well, we ought to kill people for that too. I'm certainly an enormous fan of putting rapists in prison, locking them up and throwing away the key forever. I mean forever, not this Sirhan Sirhan, it was 50 years ago, let me out. Oh dude, what is that even about? That's not a done deal. I know I'm ADD all over the place, but hey, it takes me places. Bobby Kennedy got killed when I was 10. Was I 10? Yes, I was 10. And is he a reformed guy? I mean, half a century later, is he like a better citizen? Model prisoner, great, good for him. Do you let him out? Hell no, you don't let him out, because what he did carried a life term. Anyway, I'm in the middle of 3 sentences and I'll finish some of them for you next. You may begin your own sentences right here at 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Mark Davis in for Dennis. Glad to be with you.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand. They follow the science. They understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important How significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that's what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, "Sorry, states, you do not have a compelling interest to protect unborn life." And so, for all of us who understand actual science, and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing the— showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

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But Biden is taking a hit and Democrats are trying to stay clear from him. The caller in the last hour said, where's Kamala? Kamala is doing her best to stay clear of Joe Biden. I mean, her polls stink, but combined, the both of them combined, I guess it's extra stinky together because both of them stink. And the funny thing is her polls are worse than his and she wants to be nowhere near this cat. But people are finding out that this Build Back Better thing is a socialist agenda. And the $3.5 trillion partisan wish list that the Democrats are wanting is starting to turn people off because people are starting to realize that the economic pain is going to be felt at home. Average everyday Americans sitting around their dinner table are going to feel that pain. Overall, the poll found that Biden's net approval averages -7. That means 44% are approving of his, his job as the president and 51% disapprove. So this is a major slide. A generic Republican on the ballot at this time would lead in all 7 districts going up against the Democrats and Democrat incumbents by, by 6 percentage points on average. So, Carl, the elections are so far away. Why are you worried about this? Or why are you talking about this now? Polls don't matter. Polls do matter to Democrats. Unfortunately, I feel like Republicans are starting to do the same.

Republicans have This is Mark Davis and Big DFW here at the studios of 660 AM The Answer, where I do the morning show each day, and where on really special days I finish my own show and then I get to do another one, The Dennis Prager Show, which is absolutely fantastic. I also, uh, every once in a while fill in for Hugh Hewitt, uh, sometimes fill in for Larry Elder. And I guess maybe we'll find out here in a few minutes if I'm about to start doing that again. Uh, is Larry back on the radio pretty soon? I mean, it seemed like his days are are a little freer than they were a couple of weeks ago. Oh, would that his days were filled with being governor of California. That's what I wanted. That's what he wanted. We will talk to Larry right out of the box next hour. So be here at the beginning of next hour. We'll have our— it is in fact our first, his first post-recall election interview, and we're very glad to be— we as a company and the Dennis Prager team are happy to do that. And just I personally am glad to be able to do that. Larry joins us beginning of next hour. All right, so I guess on the whole point of the death penalty and what lives are sacred and which are not. It is, as soon as you commit a murder, then you become a golden candidate for the death penalty, because innocent life is sacred. Anybody walking around saying all life is sacred, that too is moral idiocy, because obviously if somebody's coming at my wife with a machete, his life is not sacred. In a just war, Hitler's troops, their lives were not sacred. Copy that. You following me here? You feeling me? Alrighty, 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Chicago. John, Mark Davidson for Dennis. Welcome. How are you?

Hello, Mark. It's a pleasure to talk to you again.

Howdy.

I always like calling in when you host because, to be honest, I find you to be a little more personable than Mr. Prager.

Wow, now stop that. Just cut that out. You're very kind.

Okay. I wanted to ask you about the Texas abortion law, and I wasn't listening, and so maybe you already made it clear. I don't know your position. Do you support the law as it is written with no exceptions for rape?

Of course I do.

You do? Okay. So let me ask you this question then. Since you and the state of Texas think a 13-year-old rape victim should be forced by the state to give birth to her rapist's baby—

Stop, stop right there. False presumption, John. False presumption, John. False presumption is the easy index card for you folks. You are— 6 weeks means 6 weeks. If someone is a victim of rape, they got 6 weeks if indeed that is the decision, the option they seek to follow. And my position is it is not the moral thing to do, but people can differ about that. And within those 6 weeks, people may do whatever they wish, whether I approve or not. So no more this nonsense about forcing anyone to bring a child of rape to term.

Okay, okay, but, but after that 6 weeks, right, if a 13-year-old rape victim who has been shamed, wounded—

just stop it. Just stop it. 6 weeks, you got the 6 weeks, so just stop.

Okay, so you're saying that there's, there's no circumstances under which a 13-year-old girl might wait 6 weeks before confronting the fact that she's become pregnant through rape? It could never happen? That's what you're saying.

I'm saying you got 6 weeks, and the highly advisable thing is to take advantage of those 6 weeks.

So if a 13-year-old girl doesn't have the wherewithal to confront her pregnancy from rape—

of course she does. What do you mean, what do you mean doesn't have the wherewithal? What does that mean?

It doesn't.

What does that mean? Describe a situation in which that happens. The world stands ready to take care of this 13-year-old girl. Well, you're— but you're making stuff, you're making crap up, John. Not that I hate to lose my personal card, but you're making crap up. I'm sorry you're so afraid of what I have to say.

I'm not.

It's just what you're saying is preposterous. It's preposterous. It will never happen.

You won't let me speak, sir.

Knock yourself out.

Go ahead. Can I actually speak?

Well, we'll find out.

I, unlike you, unlike you, sir, I don't have any problem imagining a scenario in which an abused child waits more than 6 weeks to confront the fact she's become impregnated through rape. Maybe you can't imagine that.

Then I'll tell you what, let's do— let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go somewhere, let's go somewhere productive because I totally know where you're going. I totally— yes, I can. We totally understand each other. Let's go where you're going because this is where we'll eventually go. Here's where we will— here's where we'll eventually go. What a moron. Tug on it, dude. There goes my personable card, but I'm going to take you where you were going to go anyway because that was just ridiculous wheel spinning. And here's the thing that the gentleman and I— gentlemen— we're going to differ about. He believes there is a circumstance so desperate and so compelling and so whatever adjective you wish that the human life is expendable even after 6 weeks. I don't believe the human life is expendable at any point. At any point. And he can drag scenarios of 13-year-old victims up and down the street all day, thinking at some point I'm gonna go, oh gosh, John, you're right! Oh, I'm so sorry how wrong I've been! Oh my gosh, of course you're right! If it's bad enough, shocking enough, unfortunate enough, horrific enough, you're right. The human life thus created becomes something that it's morally okay to extinguish. So, John, if you'd had the guts to stick around, you could respond to that premise, because you think it is, I think it's not, and there we would be, and there we are. And now here's the thing. John is under no obligation to feel that way because he's not pro-life. I am. And my whole point about bringing this up is that if you are, then you have to feel that way too. Because if you're walking around with the moral idiocy of human life is sacred but not in rape and incest, it's not— that is a fool's errand. That is what an uncourageous pro-choicer says. If you are indeed pro-choice, have the guts to say so. Do not walk around and try to tell me or anybody else— and a ton of elected officials try to do this, oh, they'll try to do this all day, try to tap dance around it and play both sides against the middle. I'm totally pro-life. Rape and incest? Oh no, not rape and incest. Well, guess what? Then you're not pro-life. You are pro-choice. And again, why? And I'll wrap this up. We need to do 3 hours of this. Um, because the human life, newly created, irrespective of circumstance, is either sacred or it's not. If it's not, then it's not in the case of rape and incest. It's not if somebody doesn't want a fourth kid. It's not if it's inconvenient. It's not if you're 17 and unmarried. It's not— if it's not, it's not. But if it is, it is. Makes sense. Hope it does. Doesn't mean you have to agree with me, but as Dennis often says, may not be agreement, but there's clarity. Back in a moment. The Dennis Prager Show, live from the Relief Factor pain-free studio.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand. They follow the science. They understand understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, Sorry states, you don't have a compelling interest to protect unborn life. And so for all of us who understand actual science and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

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Wouldn't this be better at the end of the third hour? I mean, we're just getting warmed up. Teasing, teasing. All right, and I'm sorry, just the unintentional comedy. But bless the gentleman's heart, he found me a little more, quote unquote, more personable than Dennis. And then 30 seconds later, I'm yelling at him and he's hanging up on me. That's awesome. I never seek for things to go that way, but when people It's kind of funny if somebody calls me and says, yeah, Mark, I think this Biden presidency is going great. Wow, okay, I'm gonna really disagree, but we'll talk about it and whatever. But if somebody calls up and says, hey Mark, 2 2 5, stop. No, okay, I mean, that's just a factual, you know, backstop, and we just can't proceed. This notion of people being forced to carry, you know, babies to term after rape in the Texas heartbeat law Uh, just not the case. All righty, um, we are in Madison, Wisconsin. Veronica, hey, Mark Davidson for Dennis. Welcome, how are you?

I'm good, Mark, how are you?

Great, thanks for calling.

So I had read an article, um, probably about 6 months ago disputing the whole argument of what about rape. Look at it from the vision or the, um, side of the child who is going to grow up into a productive human being. And potentially become a great member of society. Of course, the article I had read was all about how this child was adopted out after the rape. The mother actually had the child, gave the baby up for adoption, raised, and in the teen years found out that they were the product of a rape. And went on to be a very well-liked, community-minded, wonderful human being. What are we losing by getting rid of and destroying human life?

I know, and, and it's funny you talk about something— listen, I am so— I have such love and gratitude for a woman who brings the child to term, offers the child up for adoption, because again, that, that is choosing life. Any way in which you choose life is, is exactly the thing to do. In the case of Jennifer Christie, she's raising the child, so that, that, that kid's in her house, and she is thankful to God for her son every day. Of course she is. We're in West Virginia. Missy, hey, Mark Davidson for Dennis Prager. How are you?

Hi, thanks for taking my call. I have a lot of questions that I hope that you can answer for me.

Sure.

So the resident— not the president, the resident— wants to mandate the vaccine. And my question to that is, I'm a believer, so I have questions and I believe they deserve to be answered. 332 million people over the past 18 months have not died of COVID Why do I need a vaccine?

Because a whole lot of people have. Because a whole lot of people have. I mean, there are, you know, how many millions of people are not dying of car accidents? Does that mean you shouldn't wear a seatbelt? So please, what's the next one? Got about 20 seconds.

No, that's that, and that's fine, and I totally understand that. But the issue is that of the, of the people who have died of it, 98% of them have comorbidities.

No, exactly. Oh, totally right. The reporting is filled with fraud. Back in a moment. All right, very good. I think this family can pick you up every time you fall. Every time I take one step forward— Dylan Wright came in this morning.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand, they follow the science, they understand understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, sorry, states, you don't have a compelling interest to protect unborn life. And so for all of us who understand actual science and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

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But Biden is taking a hit and Democrats are trying to stay clear from him. The, the caller in the last hour said, where's Kamala? Kamala is doing her best to stay clear of Joe Biden. I mean, her polls stink, but combined, the both of them combined, combined, I guess it's extra stinky together because both of them stink. And the funny thing is her polls are worse than his and she wants to be nowhere near this cat. But people are finding out that this Build Back Better thing is a socialist agenda and the $3.5 trillion partisan wish list that the Democrats are wanting is starting to turn people off because people are starting to realize that the economic pain is going to be felt at home. Average everyday Americans sitting around their dinner table are going to feel that pain. Overall, the poll found that Biden's net approval average is -7. That means 44% are approving of his, his job as the president and 51% disapprove. So this is a major slide. A generic Republican on the ballot at this time would lead in all 7 districts going up against the Democrats and Democrat incumbents by, by 6 percentage points on average. So, Carl, the elections are so far away. Why are you worried about this or why are you talking about this now? Polls don't matter. Polls do matter to Democrats. Unfortunately, I feel like Republicans are starting to do the same. Republicans have an opportunity of a lifetime, in my opinion, to kick Biden while he's down. And you have Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy seems to have backtracked slightly, but Mitch McConnell talking about they don't want to impeach. Why not? Why not?

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Number, when does, when do the families of the people stranded there go public? That's really the issue, Byron, because that will draw attention.

Well, I think it's going to be pretty soon. I mean, the United States is dependent either on the Taliban or the Qataris or some other nation to, to help get United States people out of Afghanistan. And let me say one more thing. I think on this issue of evacuations.

There are two sides to this issue.

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What a delicious sort of disconnect this is. It's the Dennis Prager Show, but he's not hosting it. I am. Hi, Mark Davis fill-in guy. And yet the music seems reminiscent of some other show on the network. Oh yeah, the Larry Elder program from which Larry has been on a bit of a sabbatical, been going at some very, very important business over the last few weeks, making all of us so very, very proud. Now, the California recall did not go the way I wanted, didn't go the way Larry wanted, but there are so many positive takeaways. But listen, I won't bore you with mine. Let's find out about his after decompressing a bit. And he has a statement that we'll parse and diagram those sentences here in a minute. But what a pleasure to welcome my friend, my hero, an incredible figure— already was, but now just another chapter in the amazing biography of Larry Elder. Larry, welcome to The Dennis Prager Show, and I'm so glad to be hosting it and so glad to tell you personally how proud I am of everything you've done. Welcome.

Well, Mark, thank you so much for that. I'm hearing that from a lot of people, a lot of friends, a lot of people that feel that I ran a noble race and I stuck to the issues, that I ran credibly, and I can tell you how moved I am by that. I was asked many times, do I regret anything? Not one moment, not one thing I've said or done did I regret.

So, going into it, the calculus that I made is that you inspired a ton of conservatives. You inspired a ton of people who wondered if leadership could ever change in California. The odd pendulum swing was that the force and the success of your campaign You were so out there, so eloquent, so important that you might well have energized a whole lot of Democrats who don't give a flip about Gavin Newsom, but they were scared to death of you.

Well, that's right. If you look at Gavin Newsom's commercials, the anti— excuse me, you know, when you run, Mark, you gain weight, you lose your voice.

I understand.

So if you look at his commercials, they were all, this is a Republican takeover, Republican takeover. Larry Elder is more Trump than Trump. Not one word about the rise in crime, which has gotten tremendously high. Not one word about the rise of the cost of living. The average price of a home in California just hit $800,000, 150% higher than the national average. Nothing about the way this man shut down the economy, shut down schools. His own kids were enjoying in-person education. He's up there at the French Laundry restaurant incurring a $12,000 wine tab that we paid for. And Mark, I don't know that much about wine. All I know is I doubt he was drinking Mad Dog 2020. Not one word about the rise in homelessness, not one word about the ridiculous way he failed to manage our forest fires so they've gotten more deadly, nothing about the fact that we're running out of water in California, nothing about the rolling brownouts, which are necessary because we're failing to properly invest in our energy grid, nothing about any of the issues I talked about. I, of course, challenged him to a debate. He refused to debate me. It was all about, this is a Republican takeover. When you consider about a quarter to a third of the people that signed the petition were independents and Democrats who voted for him just 2 years earlier. 63% of Hispanics voted for him 2 years earlier, Marc. The majority of Hispanics wanted him gone. The majority of independents wanted him gone. But he was able to successfully characterize this as a, quote, Republican takeover, close quote, outspent me 6 to 1, and the margin of defeat was far, far bigger than I ever suspected it would be. On the other hand, my margin of victory over my opponents to recall this, to replace this guy, was stunning, the highest I ever saw. was I had about 23%, my closest rival maybe 10 or 11%. I ended up getting 47%. The closest rival was a Democrat who got 9 or 10%, and then the other Republican got about 9%, even though these guys were running a longer time. John Cox ran against him the first time, ran against him again this time, spent probably collectively in those two races maybe $20 million of his own money, ended up getting single digits.

So now, among people who love and admire you and wanted you to win and have loved your career and wonder what you're going to do next, to the people who are scared to death of you, we all have a similar question. What's next for Larry Elder? Are you soon to return to radio, or has this given you a thought that maybe there are a couple of other bases to touch before heading back to the microphone?

Well, I was talking with Phil Boyce, you know, our boss, just a few hours ago about this very thing, and I told him I just need some days just to think about it. I didn't think it was going to hurt it would hurt this much to lose. I didn't think I was going to enjoy running as much as I did. And when I lost, that didn't occur to me, didn't hit me until the next morning when I was thanking my campaign staff, and all of a sudden I started crying. I didn't think that was going to happen. So I was thinking about Bob Dole. When Bob Dole lost, I think he lost in '96, wasn't it?

Correct.

And he called George McGovern, who got slaughtered in 1972, And he asked George McGovern, when does it stop hurting? And George McGovern said, I'll let you know when that happens.

Exactly.

So, you know, Mark, you put everything out, you raise money. The best, most optimistic projection was that Elder might raise $10 million. I raised $20 million. And you do everything you can. I hit every mark. I didn't lose a day. My voice got a little raspy, but it got stronger and stronger near the end. I hit every interview, I hit every fundraiser, I hit every rally. My campaign manager, who's very experienced, said he's never seen a politician work this hard. So I left everything out, and you still get creamed.

It hurts.

I can imagine. And there's something about having 2.3 million people vote for you. There is something about that. It wraps around your heart and makes you think, okay, how can I serve these people best? I have, just as a suggestion, purely selfish motive, Get back to the show as soon as you're comfortable and consider your options while doing shows talking about them.

Mm-hmm.

That's a very good idea, and of course, obviously, I've considered that. That's probably the first thing that I intend to do. But I gotta tell you, Mark, it is just so disturbing. We're outnumbered here in California 2 to 1. And was I lying when I said the average price of a home hit $800,000? 50% of both the higher— no, no. Was I lying when I said crime has gotten up 41%, uh, shootings and homicides, uh, here in LA? Was I lying when I said this man released 20,000 convicted felons, and based upon history, the majority of them are likely to reoffend? Was I lying when I said kids before the pandemic, Mark, half of our third graders could not read at state levels of proficiency? They lost a whole year of in-school education, and the math scores are even worse. Was I lying when I said we've got anywhere between 20 25% and a half of the nation's homeless population, and it's getting worse. Without, you know, nothing, nothing I said was, was challenged on the merits. It was all Republican takeover, Republican takeover, and they kept showing a picture of me, uh, with the former president with both of our thumbs up. So that's it, that's it. That's just the only person less popular in California than Donald Trump is Charlie Manson, and he's dead.

Exactly. And I think you've answered heard my very next question. This is what you have achieved. This is the, the glory and the, the victory within a technical loss. And it goes like this: the campaign you ran was an act of genius because you didn't walk around saying, hey, vote for me because I'm conservative and he's liberal. That's self-evident. You wound up doing a campaign that was meant to appeal to absolutely everybody. Your campaign was about homelessness, about the economy, about COVID restrictions, about fire management. It was about things that people of every political stripe can care about. And if California is ever to be saved, that's the kind of campaign that will do it. Might take 30 of them in a row to do it, but that's the way to do it.

Well, I appreciate that. And you know, Mark, I was of course called the blackface of white supremacy in particular. A woman in a gorilla mask, a white woman in a gorilla throws an egg at me. If that had happened to Barack Obama campaigning, it would be called a hate crime. They'd be talking about it in Bangladesh. And you know, Marc, I've never, ever, ever asked anybody to vote for me because I'm black or to vote against me because I'm black. I've never made a big deal out of it. As far as I'm concerned, after Barack Obama became the first black president, everything else is anticlimactic. But when you want to play that game, New York Times front-page article about me, negative of course, never mentions that I'm black, never mentions that that if I were to have won, I would have been the first Black governor. On the very same page, New York Times, big article about, quote, the first female governor of New York, close quote, because she's got a D at the end of her name. It's a first. Because I have an R at the end of my name, I'm no longer Black.

It's funny because I, I retweeted an article, I think it's from Slate, and the headline was Larry Elder is not going anywhere. And I said, you know what, the headline is the only thing that's correct because he's not going anywhere. Everything that followed was a lie and a smear of you, but I said, I smell their fear. This is the badge of honor that Larry can wear. I'm so proud that you're my friend, so proud that you're my coworker, whether it's on the air, off the air, or anywhere in between. Just God bless you, and we'll all stay tuned as you've asked us to do.

Well, you know, Mark, that archive— I read the article this morning, and it really is— it's white people. What it said is Larry Elder made makes white people's racism okay.

Wow!

What do you say about that?

What do you think about white people? I know! Well, we could spend the rest of our lives explaining that, and I am so grateful. Thanks for hanging out here with us on your first post-election interview. Well done, good and faithful servant. I'm so proud of you.

Thank you, Mark. God bless.

You bet. That is Larry Elder, everybody. Oh my goodness me. So I think I offered a quality suggestion. If he's sitting there wondering about, gee, what might I do next, that's great. I totally understand that. I'm sure it's been an amazing and compelling and life-changing thing. Why don't you hash out those options while doing the show? I flesh out all kinds of things doing the show. Lord knows that's apparent. So let's get back to that and the various other calls we've been talking about. Let's talk about Larry and anything else you want. Mark Davison for Dennis. Stick around.

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I, I really— I have to control myself, Jay. Because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the, the under-30s, who understand. They follow the science. They understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, "Sorry, states, you do not have a compelling interest to protect unborn life. And so for all of us who understand actual science and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

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Well, I'll tell you what I think. I think I'm ready for Dennis to come back tomorrow. I know you are too. Thanks for hanging out with me patiently. Mark Davis sitting in from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth. And hey, that was just Larry Elder on the phone. Shall we psychoanalyze those answers? Oh man. And all I really mean by that is, is I don't think Larry knows exactly when he's coming back to the radio. And I don't want to say or if But let's, let's say when for now. And as I told him, purely selfishly— and, and Carl Jackson's done this wonderful job filling in, it's been great, uh, but that's the Larry Elder Show. And silly selfish me, uh, I'm interested in the Larry Elder Show hosted by Larry Elder, like ASAP. But I'm— was this just me sitting in the, in, in the studio through headphones talking to a guy I've known for a few years Or did you get the same feeling that this has— I don't say changed him, but it has deeply affected him? There has got to be— well, first of all, having a radio show is one of the coolest things in the world. Trust me, it's great. Um, there is something about getting out there, you know, getting out of the radio studio, running for something, having something mean this much to you. And having 2.3 million people vote for you. Now, the fact that twice that many voted to keep this sorry Gavin Newsom, I mean, that's, that's an asterisk. But, but 2.3 million people walked into a voting local— walked into a voting location, what is it, 1973? Filled their— filled in their ballots however, whatever cockamamie ways you, you do that in California, and, uh, and logged a preference. For Larry Elder. They believed in him to change that state, to make it the Golden State once again. That has to be a humbling, sobering, eye-opening, inspiring thing. And maybe it makes somebody think, you know, radio is great, but maybe there's some other calling. So, um, I don't know. Whatever he wants to do, I will love him forever and support him and wish him great success. And you know what? I bet that success will come in whatever form. I think I had the perfect solution. Just saying, who's, who's with me? And that is that as Larry explores his many, many options, what he should do is consult with listeners about it every day for about a year and just, just come back and do the show and we'll talk about it. You got plenty of time. Oh, and I'm, I'm half kidding, but only half. So God bless Larry. What a, what an amazing, uh, amazing effort that was. Okay, um, when we, uh, when we finished our last hour, we had— oh man, did we have some, uh, matters of great import going on. Being here in Texas and talking about our, our heartbeat law, you know, sort of talking about everything from where life begins to, uh, the rape and incest exception, which again is moral idiocy if you are pro-life, to various other things going on in the news. And I've got a bunch of calls, so let me go to these because they've been waiting during Larry. And then I really have yet to give you my full sort of opening monologue, but wouldn't be opening now, would it, halfway through the show? My full monologue on General Milley and what ought to happen there.

There.

So, but you, if you want to weigh in on that, you surely may as well. Uh, 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Arlington Heights, Illinois. Mark. Hey, Mark Davis in for Dennis.

How you doing? I'm great, thank you.

You're very kind.

Going back to the, to the abortion thing, I'm, I'm, I'm torn on this because I was raised Christian. And I hear about, uh, conservative people, people on my team, the red team, going out to abortion clinics and chastising the women that are going in to get their abortions. And my thing is, why are they doing that?

Why?

If you're a Christian and you do something like that, you abort your baby, you can, you can ask for forgiveness, can you not?

Well, of course, but that doesn't mean you should do it ahead of time. I, I think that there's a kind of a character that there may be. This is important.

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I think you have a caricature, Mark. I think there's a caricature in your head of what happens at abortion clinics. I have enormous familiarity with some of the protests, the activism, the things that happen at abortion clinics, and this notion of chasing a woman down the street and calling her a baby killer as she goes into the clinic is largely fiction. It is a loving—

No.

It is a— No, no, Mark, excuse me, I'll finish. It is a loving and understanding outreach that seeks in the gentlest of terms to persuade by speaking truth with love rather than badger and hound.

Well, yeah, okay, okay.

So sorry, but that's the way it is.

It just, it just doesn't seem right to me. It's just, you know, you're right.

So you're right. The good news is it's not— the good news is it's largely not happening. Happening. The good news is that, you know, from whatever year somebody gave you an anecdote of someone being cruel and dismissive and badgering some woman who's trying to get an abortion, that is outweighed by 100 to 1 by pregnancy crisis pregnancy centers that do outreach and lovingly, kindly persuade women to choose life. And that, rather than cruelness and coldness, you're right, that is the way to do it. That is the good news, is that is virtually unanimously the the way that it is done. We are in Chicago. Frank, hey, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How are you doing?

Yeah, hi, Mark. Yeah, see if you can figure this out. I know a friend, and there's others like him, very, very pro-life, very Christian. I ask him, I says, you know, it's nice that you think life is so precious, but the God you believe in, according to the Bible, he's murdering people by the thousands. He's telling people to murder other people for trivial reasons. He has no problem with that.

Who's doing that? What's— what's the— what are you talking about?

Well, he believes, you know, in these stories in the Bible where God is killing everybody. And I thought, well, I thought life was so precious. How can you, uh, think that that's okay?

No.

Okay, well, they could probably come to the modern day and find better examples of, of, of warfare and the death penalty. There are all kinds of deaths that happen happen. Not, not every life is sacred. Uh, if it would require— right, well, exactly. Uh, it depends on each story, but I think scripture will yield a reason why God did what he did. It may not be something that either A, the person you're talking to agrees with, or B, that the, the human mind can grasp, but whatever it is, there's a reason God did it. And so I think the best answer to that, really, rather than get into a big theological thing with a lot of people who may not be equipped to do that, or even want to do that, is to say that the definitions of morality involve innocent life being sacred, and that that's the way we operate. That if somebody is trying to chop your head off in your house at midnight, you can kill them. In a just war, you can kill somebody. The unborn is a life worth preserving. So innocent life is sacred. Innocent life. Life is sacred. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Mark Davis filling in from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth. You can follow me on the world of Twitter there in that adventure @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis. And I much appreciate it, and more of you are next, and more topics aplenty coming on this Thursday Dennis Prager Show. Stick around.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand, they follow the science, they understand understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, say, sorry states, you don't have a compelling interest to protect unborn life. And so, for all of us who understand actual science and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

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It is the Dennis Prager Show for this Thursday, the 16th day of September. So we are literally halfway through the program, and I haven't said a word in detail about General Milley because, hey, we had Larry Elder, and we've been talking literally about many life-and-death issues, and we will continue to do so. But let me add this layer because I've been, you know, hemming and hawing about it for for an hour and a half. Um, it is a wise and fair thing to do to wait for this story to marinate and to learn a little more about it before reaching, you know, a really firm and bold conclusion like Milley's got to go like yesterday. But that's where I find myself. I think Milley's got to go like yesterday. So why is that? Um, pardon the navel-gazing here, but, but here's the I think it's like a law of physics that if someone says something about you that is just reputationally destructive, you will waste no time in getting out there and saying, "That's not true." Why have we not had General Milley saying publicly, you know, rushing towards some microphone— I think my favorite microphone would be on a table at a congressional hearing like tomorrow Why have we not had General Milley saying, not only did I not do it, but I would not do it, circumvent the proper authority of the President of the United States and engage in such an act of treachery that I go ratting to my Chinese communist counterpart? You know, this notion from this, this book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa is totally wrong. I didn't do it. I never would do it. That would be horribly wrong. The minute General Milley comes out and says I will adjust my reaction, but right now my reaction is he totally did it. Couple of reasons: all kinds of guys, and a lot of the military guys— John Kelly, so-called Mad Dog Mattis— they got into this White House, they thought they could change Trump. They thought they were gonna lead him around by the nose. Had they met the man, they get in there and realize that he's the top dog, he's the alpha male, and then they're gonna do what he says. And they couldn't handle it, and that didn't work out so well, did it? It. And in, you know, Exhibit B, General Milley has revealed a cognitive disconnect of the type that would lead to Trump hatred. It is liberalism that leads ultimately to the Trump hatred, whether it's from actual Democrats, actual leftists, or some of these Trump-hating malcontents, you know, in Never Trump and etc., etc. The critical race theory affinity of General Milley. Remember a few weeks ago? Oh, I want to explore white rage. What? And I think all the soldiers and sailors and all these folks, you know, the Coast Guard and Space Force, presumably, I don't know, they all need to be conversant in these battles that are taking place in our own country. You know, so in other words, they just need to be immersed in racial guilt. And I'm sorry, silly, silly me, I think we ought to be about winning wars first and foremost. Now, are there social issues? Of course there are. That's all fine. But white rage, it just smacks of a CRT obsession that has no place in the United States military. Military. And General Milley's tolerance, if not outright affinity for that, is enormously concerning. And if you got that going on demonstrably and provably, then it's not a long walk to the notion of him being one of these paranoid, Trump-hating troublemakers in Trump's inner circle, running off to Nancy Pelosi, running off to his Chinese counterpart. This guy is crazy. He's gonna bomb Beijing. I better tell him. So I think there is credibility to this story, and I'll tell you what I'm going to do, because fairness is vital to me. I mean, do I know it like I know my own name? I do not. Do I believe it? I do. And the minute General Milley comes out and says, I absolutely didn't do it, I, I didn't do it, I wouldn't do it, that would be horribly wrong, it would be treachery, it would be treason, How dare anyone say that I did these things? When those words are coming out of General Milley's mouth, I will revise and extend my remarks, as the old saying goes. But you know what? I don't think that's going to happen, because I think he did make the phone call. I think he did warn his Chinese counterpart based on this, this Trump-hating paranoia. And I think what we're going to see is General Milley, to any extent that he winds up talking more about it, and he must must talk more about it. We have a right to know. And then I think he's going to try to cleanse it and try to justify it. And the funniest thing to me is the left thought this would work out great. Oh, Milley's a hero, he protected us from the crazy person that is Trump. Yeah, this backfire is an epic one for the ages, and I have to confess that I hate the story but I love the backfire. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager, your calls on this and plenty of other things next.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand, they follow the science, they understand understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer— how important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority they simply say, "Sorry, states, you don't have a compelling interest to protect unborn life." And so, for all of us who understand actual science and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing how heartbeats are about 5 to 6 weeks after conception.

Oh, that is a good one. That is a good one. Hugh has, uh, plentiful history with Knicks Nixon in his later years, and of course, as you know, running the Nixon Library now. I was, um, I was 16 when Nixon resigned. It was the summer between my junior and senior year of high school. And so all the Watergate hearings were on in the summertime. It was the stuff of my high school years. And it's easy at that point to just carry on Watergate with you. But when you take a look at his election in 1968, his enormous reelection in 1972, Pat Buchanan has written some fascinating books about Nixon. One about that, I'm trying to remember the name of it. It's about just one of the comebacks of the century in terms of somebody who was totally down, totally defeated, and rose to the presidency not once but twice. Nixon is maybe one of our most fascinating figures who was ever president. Deeply troubled guy in some ways, yes. Watergate, terrible, yes. But boy, there's some genius working in there. And So check that Hugh Hewitt video there at PragerU. Okay, Mark Davison for Dennis. Let's get back to your calls. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Louisville, Luther. Mark Davison for Dennis. How you doing?

Ah, pretty good. Thank you for taking my call.

My pleasure.

Listen, the Millie is a rat. He, he's a worm.

He does—

even if he comes out at a hearing, I still won't believe Because it's sickening to think that— well, it's the truth. It's sickening to think that he would even do that to Trump. And it's sickening what, you know, us Republicans have had to deal with the last 8 months, the fake mask mandates. I mean, what do you think of Schumer yesterday with his sneeze? Was that— was that not just a big joke to him? You know, it really cracked me up.

Let me regather my bearings. Is that 180-degree or 90-degree pivot? I almost got whiplash from the topical change. Let me go with the original one, and that is that Milley's credibility is shot. Mike Pompeo was on Hannity last night, and in fact, I might have this. Here we go. There's a part of the book and the source material for all of this. Is the— I think it's to be released in about 5 days— Peril by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. And among Milley's— among the things Milley is represented as saying is that he went to Pompeo in the closing days of Trump and said, this guy's crazy, and I'm gonna, you know, make sure that we, uh, somehow, you know, all get out of this, uh, constitutionally sound. And Pompeo says, I have no recollection of a conversation like that. Said, look, we were all pretty down. We were about to hand over the reins of foreign policy to what this administration— we've seen these last 8 months what that means for the United States of America. So if someone asked, was I excited about January 20th and the fact that we were no longer going to have the capacity to secure American freedom, I count me for being in a pretty dark place too. So that was Pompeo and Hannity. Now, does that mean that the reporting is bad from Bob Woodward and Robert Costa? Costa's great. Woodward's fascinating and has largely been sound in his assertions in most of his books. If Milley has his wheels off, as may be the case, maybe he's walking around telling this story, not only that he, you know, called the Chinese counterpart, but that he was also trying to bolster calling the Chinese counterpart by sharing some of his concerns with other contemporaries. In the Trump White House. Go figure. We are in Newark, New Jersey. Adam, hey, Mark Davis in for Dennis. Welcome. How are you?

Oh, hi, Mark. Hey, where's Dennis today?

Yom Kippur.

Oh, he's been out a bit lately. I was starting to get concerned.

Well, between writing— but I tell you what, between writing and Jewish holidays, I've gotten some fill-in gigs. Just saying. And I'm always grateful. Always grateful. Always nice to see Dennis's return.

Yeah, anyway, I mean, he hasn't been looking that well either. I was just kind of—

I've got a really great idea, Adam. I've got a really good idea. I've got a really— I've got a really good idea. You got 10 seconds to do it. Got anything, uh, real to talk about there, buddy?

Yeah, do you think Dennis might be—

Okay, that'll be no. All right, 1-800-Prager-776. I, I give, uh, I give multiple chances, multiple chances. All righty, we're in Irvine, California. Chris, hey, Mark Davis, welcome. How are you, sir?

Mark, I am nauseated about the major reality disconnect between what just happened and what should have just happened in Germany. Oh, in California, so many Republicans should have come out, more Republicans should have come out and voted for Larry.

What if they all did? I mean, what if I mean, listen, it's California, dude. I mean, is it— did we have a real turn? Did we have a real motivation problem, a real turnout problem, or is there— this is what it's like to live in a 2-to-1 state. It's California.

Yeah, but they should have come out.

Well, okay, let's say 50% more did.

Then what?

Then the recall only loses by 10 points instead of 30. I mean, it's California. I know it would. It would. It'd be all— and unicorns, you know, dropping from the sky would be nice too. I, you know, if the recall had lost by 5 percentage points, I'd be wringing my hands right along with you saying, man, if only, if only, if only. And you know what, maybe we'll get to a point where Republicans will start losing races in this. And again, this is not a Larry loss. It's the recall loss, the prospect of recall Larry Krasner, for example, went down by a 2-to-1 margin. And, but I'll tell you, if it had, if people had actually voted to punt Gavin Newsom, Larry's dominance over that large field was beyond doubt. But it's California. We have miles and miles to go. But I'll tell you what, this is one of my takeaways is Larry has shown us how it's done. That you get out there. And California has liberals and has conservatives, ton more liberals right now, right? So the way you appeal to them is saying— is by getting out there, doing what Larry did, and saying, listen, I can do better on the economy, I can do better on COVID response, I can do better on forest management, I can do better on jobs, I can do better on all kinds of things. So that people who might not be that ideologically wired will say, all right, let's give this guy a chance. And then you get a couple of Republicans elected and go, wow, that didn't suck. And then— but there's— it's, it's, it's a process. It's a process. And Larry's been a key part of that process. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. I think this family can pick you up every time you fall. Every time I take one step forward, he wants to fight you. No one expected this out of him.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who They follow the science. They understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer. How important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that is what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially A little optimism from the Beatles.

Got to admit, it's getting better. Oh, is it? Is it really, Paul? And he tells the story of writing this along with John. He says it was the perfect counterpoint of me and John. I can't do the Liverpudlian. And about how is it a tardiness getting better, getting better. And then John kicks in that thing about it can't get much worse. Typical Lennon. Well, it has more of a Lennon-esque feeling these days than the sunny optimism of Paul. But listen, the Republic hangs by a thread. One-party rule. It's all dreadful. It's terrible. And yet I have this feeling as we go back to your calls on 14 different things, which is my favorite talk show environment, that are Americans getting it? Do you think that maybe even people who are not, you know, hardwired ideological conservatives, because like we were just talking about the campaign that Larry ran in California, it wasn't so much about my politics or your politics or I'm conservative and he's liberal, which all that does is just reinforce everybody that already is those things. It was his job to get out there and say, look, education is terrible, I can make it better. Forest management's terrible, I can make it better. You know, our job situation, our crime situation, our homelessness situation is terrible, I can make it better. And it was an incredibly compelling campaign. I'm enormously proud of him. Um, so now, uh, as I, I hear from a lot of people in the show that I do here in DFW on 660 AM, The Answer. And I hear from time to time, both in on-air life and off-air life, that there are people who— and I don't mean the hardcore left, they're going to vote for Biden, you know, no matter what, or his attempted successor in 2024. And, um, but a lot of people who are independents or in the mushy middle, or again, they're not real ideologically wired, and they call me and say, this Afghanistan thing was, was terrible. And this inflation is terrible. And maybe our borders do need to work because that situation is terrible. And I just kind of nod and listen. I go, mm-hmm. I might be telling you about some candidates in the near future who can do a better job of those things. Might you be interested in hearing about that? And I think that's the key to our progress. I'm very confident in taking back the House. In 2022. I have middling confidence in taking back the Senate. A lot of people already— this makes me very uncomfortable— oh, it's a wave, it's going to be a wave election. And could it be? Absolutely, it could be. This could be a stunning rebuke of everything Biden. But I, and I don't believe in jinxes, no such thing as jinxes, but I think I want to shut up about that because while there's no such thing as jinxes, there is such a thing as overconfidence. Confidence. And boy, how stupid would we be if we allowed ourselves to grow lazy and rest on— we don't have any laurels to rest on right now. Let's make some laurels we can rest on in the future. Please, you got to get into power, uh, before— and people always say Republicans are better being out of power than in. Well, guess what? Let's work on getting back in. Be good at that too. Mark Davis in for Dennis Prager.

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Right.

Everything was just takeout and delivery for me. It was, it was very difficult. I now face 1.4 judgment. Against me.

1.4 million.

1.4 million, Mike. Okay. And already my struggles— I already had struggles from before. This is what they don't understand. They don't understand the struggles we go through. Everybody—

we—

it's like they don't sit and think about the struggles a family has. And my struggles are even more compared to others. I lost my husband. I'm a single mom with 4 kids. Like, enough already. Let me live. Let me feed my children. And now these new mandates again with no protection. We're violating New York City human rights laws if we comply with this. I'm not complying.

You make— you're like the voice of Americans who are saying, you're not going to tell me How I can choose to live my life or run my business. Irene, I don't understand. You have to help me understand the $1.4 million that you're facing. How does an owner of a beloved diner like Kellogg's Diner in Brooklyn rack up $1.4 million that they say you owe the government?

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Right.

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But Biden is taking a hit and Democrats are trying to stay clear from him. The, the caller in the last hour said, where's Kamala? Kamala is doing her best to stay clear of Joe Biden. I mean, her polls stink, but combined, uh, they're the both of them combined, combined, I guess it's extra stinky together because both of them stink. And the funny thing is her polls are worse than his and she wants to be nowhere anywhere near this cat. But people are finding out that this Build Back Better thing is a socialist agenda. And the $3.5 trillion partisan wish list that the Democrats are wanting is starting to turn people off because people are starting to realize that the economic pain is going to be felt at home. Average everyday Americans sitting around their dinner table are going to feel that pain. Overall, the poll found that Biden's net approval average is -7. That means 44% are approving of his, his job as the president and 51% disapprove. So this is a major slide. A generic Republican on the ballot at this time would lead in all 7 districts going up against the Democrats and Democrat incumbents by, by 6 percentage points on average. So, Carl, the elections are so far away. 'Why are you worried about this?' or 'Why are you talking about this now? Polls don't matter.' Polls do matter to Democrats. Unfortunately, I feel like Republicans are starting to do the same. Republicans have an opportunity of a lifetime, in my opinion, to kick Biden while he's down. And you have Kevin McCarthy— Kevin McCarthy seems to have backtracked slightly, but Mitch McConnell talking about they don't want to impeach. Why not? Why not?

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So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?

I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.

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Trending now on the Hugh Hewitt Show: Congress is going to get to the bottom of what was what was, in retrospect, probably one of the worst mistakes of the last 3 months, which is abandoning our secure airbase with a significant perimeter to protect against the exact kind of suicide bombing that claimed 13 American lives.

Now, I know an individual in General Milley's circle, and I am told exactly what you just said, they would not lift the cap on the troops. But my advice to this individual was, tell everyone you can to get a story straight, a timeline down, and every supporting document in one binder so that you do not have to change your story on timing or detail even once, or you'll have Benghazi on your hands. And I believe that the Pentagon would be well served to over-respond rather than under-respond at this point. What's your advice to the Pentagon, Senator, on how to respond to the queries, which will never stop until we have a day-by-day, hour-by-hour, minute-by-minute timeline and documents supporting a decision tree here.

Well, that's sound advice not only to the Pentagon but to anyone in the administration. What Congress is not just going to move on from this fiasco. We're going to get to the bottom of what happened. Then if the Democratic Congress right now won't do it, then we'll get to the bottom of it in early 2023 once Republicans have won.

It is the third hour of the Thursday Dennis Prager Show. Dennis back tomorrow to wrap up your week on Friday. I'm Mark Davis filling in from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth, where I host the morning show every day. And on some really special days, I get to turn it right around and knock out another talk show, this one. And what a joy that is, because it's an opportunity to sort of take nationwide various things that occur on the show this morning, and that's kinda happening because I've had the opportunity to talk a lot about General Milley. I am inclined to believe that a deep-seated Trump-hating paranoia led him to ring up his communist Chinese counterpart. I think he's proud of it. I think the left thinks he's a hero for it, and it's gonna blow up in all their faces. And there need to be questions answered about this immediately. By him. And fairness requires that if he steps forward and says, I didn't do it, what's in the Bob Woodward, Robert Costa book is totally false, I never called up my Chinese counterpart to warn them against crazy Trump, I would never do such a thing, that would be treachery, that would be treason, I would never do it— if he actually steps forward and says that, I will adjust my opinion of him. I do not envision that that will be happening. Since I am here in Texas, I brought up some stuff about our recently passed heartbeat law that has us talking about life and death for the, the born and yet to be born, and a number of other things, uh, kicking around as well. Thanks for being here. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis if that's your inclination. And let's, uh, dive— President Biden's talking about something. I think it is economic combination, economy and, uh, vax mandates. Boy, just good luck with that, sir. Let me give you 30 seconds on this. Um, the, the Biden idea— it's a backdoor vaccine mandate is what essentially is making businesses make you get it. Employers over 100, he says. Um, as with all of these things, there's the issue of what you think about vaccines, what you think of Biden, what you think of anything. And that's all important to me because look what I do for a living. That's what talk shows are about, what you think about things, what I think about. But the ultimate thing in this business vaccine mandate is, can he do it? And that answer is no. And you can't wrap it in some force field of OSHA and say, well, it's about workplace safety. Yeah, no, it's not. OSHA exists on workplace safety to, to police and regulate inherently dangerous workplaces. Like, is the roof of your mine shaft about to collapse, or do you have, you know, sharp objects that threaten the workers in your factory? That's, that's OSHA material. OSHA has never and should never be used as an implementer of broad social health policy. So no, sir, you don't get to do this. There is no basis whatsoever for a president telling businesses what their vaccine policies can be. So anyway, we'll see how this works out. 1-800-776-6776. As we head back to your calls, we're in Tucson. Gary Hey, Mark Davis, welcome. How are you?

Hey, Brother Davis, um, I'm doing as well as can be considering the State of the Union. Um, I think it's, uh, critical that, uh, Milley, uh, stepped down based solely on the Afghan retreat and debacle. But if this is true with him and China, that's a whole different ball game. That, that's, uh, court-martial and prison and Gitmo and all the rest.

Well, it's funny you mentioned— go ahead and finish. I'm I'm sorry, go ahead. Oh well, you first.

Sorry, Mark. Okay, um, the Dems have a long history of making the United States look bad as possible, especially back with Bush. They were talking about torture all the time. They want to put their Black Lives Matter flags over our embassies. Um, there's all kinds of things they do to disrespect America, and this is the latest thing. They won't fire a general who needs firing.

Unless, unless they do, because— so thank you, pardon me for stepping on you, because you— in bringing up Afghanistan and the China call, I'm trying to remember who, uh, I think it was Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana said that, that they, they might use the, uh, they're going to throw Milley under the bus using Afghanistan as the pretext so that they're not really doing it for inventing anti-Trump paranoia, because they love anti-Trump paranoia. Paranoia in the Biden White House. Anti-Trump paranoia is heroic in the Biden White House and across the landscape of the American left. But if he's becoming a distraction, if he's becoming a net negative, if he's becoming a problem, then maybe they can get rid of him and say that Afghanistan was the reason. And then they could say, leave Tony Blinken alone, leave Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin alone, leave Biden alone. You know, because here's the thing, you need somebody's head on a platter, don't I'll teach you the definition of accountability. Well, we take responsibility, we are accountable. Oh really? Measured by what? And they'll be able to say, look, we got rid of Milley. So I don't know, the clock may be ticking for this man, but not ultimately because of the China phone call. And here's what's weird, for the China phone call, he deserves to be gone. I don't think it was Milley's idea to screw up Afghanistan. In fact, this very same book, Peril, By Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. How many copies of that can I sell in one show? Uh, there are chapters in there that contain the notion of military people trying to talk Biden out of the disastrous August 31st timetable. Go figure. We are in Whittier, California. Jerry, hey, Mark Davis, welcome in for Dennis. How are you?

How are you? I'm good. How you doing today?

Good, thank you.

Okay, so earlier you mentioned, uh, the voting— the vote with, uh, Governor Newsom. Well, if they're using the same Smartmatic machines, how is it that anyone would think that we're still going to have a fun and honest and fair election?

Well, I have no idea about whether they were Smartmatic machines in every county, but I will tell you, it was— the likelihood— I mean, it's a Democrat-run state. Is the Possibility of some fraud in there somewhere? Sure there is, but when the margin is, when the margin is 2.5 million, I have a feeling it would have turned out this way anyway.

Well, yeah, but hold on a second, but people that went to vote on the 14th were turned away because they were told they had already voted when they had not.

I heard some things about that anecdotally, I did. And by the way, there may be various other things as well. Well, because again, because A, it's California, and B, this is what Democrats do. And here's the thing, I don't want to say I'm glad it wasn't a razor-thin margin, but I may be glad it wasn't a razor-thin margin because then I'll be sitting there thinking, wow, did fraud turn this thing one way or the other? And I know that seems like the conservative go-to thing. Well, if we lose, it's always fraud.

Well, guess what?

Of late, fraud is part of the Democrat strategy manual. And this is why you find— you found them— this is why we had Texas legislators pack up and hightail it and fly to Washington in the worst stunt in recent political history, because they found Governor Abbott and our Republican legislators' attempts to re-instill some sense of security in our elections after that security and reliability had been dashed against the rocks, sacrificed on the altar of phony COVID panic, needless things that were done to our elections. We tried to normalize those things and get back to the way it was when people were voting normally. And that gave the Democrats an opportunity to start screaming voter suppression when it was nothing of the kind. We're in Missouri.

Cliff.

Hey, Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Welcome. How are you?

I'm good, Mark. Really enjoyed the show.

Thank you.

Aside from the fact of the barbaric way that babies are terminated in the womb, we're forgetting another point, which John brings up, a 13-year-old, and the psychological effects that many of these girls feel after they had an abortion, the years of regret, depression, etc. And I'll tell you, my wife and I, we live in a smaller town, and she has 3 coworkers, workers that are unable to have children and would absolutely love the opportunity to adopt a baby. Yeah.

So thank you, sir, because this is, uh, it's, it's important. And thank you for that. Thank you for the story. This is what everybody needs to be reminded of, is that an unwanted pregnancy is all— is a trauma. I, I obviously cannot imagine and I will never know firsthand what it's like to be, you know, 17 and pregnant, or whatever age and pregnant, because obviously that's not something that will ever happen to me. However, I was once a baby. We all were. And that gives me absolutely equal standing to participate in a debate over something that is a human life issue. The unwanted pregnancy is a tough hand to be dealt. Felt. So lovingly, understandingly, and helpfully, those of us who are pro-life should reach out to women who are in this plight and say, we will help you. We're not going to scold you, berate you, or toss you into the lake of fire. We're going to help you choose life and get that baby into the loving hands of parents who will raise it. If you don't want to, we get it, we understand that totally, but we're going to help you choose life. All righty, Mark Davison for Dennis. Stick around, much more to come.

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Israel is getting ready for their fourth jab. Now, some people— this is how dishonest the media is. They say, well, Israel in the last couple of days, they've seen their rates go down. Now, why do you think that COVID rates would be going down in Israel the last couple of days? Anybody? Is it because the vaccine, masks? No, it's because the high holidays. Okay. People are staying at home and they're not going out and they're not working and they're not congregating.

Gating.

So they've locked down the country through basically pseudo-religious mandate. Israel and Sweden, if you look at the 7-day rolling average of new cases per 100,000, Sweden on this chart that has been published is right around 10%. Israel has far exceeded 100%. And in fact, there are more cases right now happening in America and the Western world than there were a year ago. And a very basic question should be, is the vaccine helping or is it hurting? What's the answer to that question? Why is it that rates keep on going up the more vaccinated we are? Well, Israel is the only country in the world that gives the third vaccination to everyone at ages 12+. A COVID passport is required for 12+. And by the way, let me just say, I'm a very— I'm a lover of Israel and Jerusalem. I don't know if I'm ever going back to Israel. I don't. I said this to one of my friends the other day who runs a great project there. He said, oh, you'll be coming back. I said, I don't know if I'll be welcome in Israel because I'm not getting vaccinated and I'm not doing any of this stuff. Numerous blockades throughout Israel and mask mandates where Sweden has no booster shots. No COVID passports, no, no lockdowns, and no masks.

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Any teacher who's taping masks to 9-year-olds' heads should be fired immediately. I mean, that's not— I'm not going out on a limb here to say that. Do you disagree with that?

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Hopefully your washing machine is clean.

Okay. Well, they're talking about appliances. Is at Gretchen's house, which is my cue to move on. We are in Detroit, and Mark, that is you. Welcome, Mark Davidson for Dennis. How you doing?

Oh, I'm doing good. Thanks, Mark.

Good.

Yeah, you know, when you look at somebody like, you know, it's kind of mystifying. Uh, I mean, it's hard to understand, uh, how he got to where he is. You know, he's easily led, he's incompetent, and politically corrupt.

It's extremely easy to say— hang on 2 seconds. It's extremely easy to see how he got there. He has a stellar record of magnificent military service, but then some— as did John Kelly, as did Mad Dog Mattis. And Trump breaks people. Trump— if you don't have the spine, the brain, the capacity to understand the change that's happening before you, Trump can break you. It happened to Liz Cheney. It happened to all these Never Trumpers. So it's not a mystery how he got that far. I mean, so it's, it's the mystery why he is allowed a collapse to happen based on the paranoia of Trump hatred. Go ahead.

Yeah, well, you know, Obama started purging the military years ago. To me, this has to do with purging because he purged the alphabet bureaucracies, you know. And, you know, they started out by purging their own party of everybody, the best and the brightest, anybody that wouldn't go along with their political corruption, their criminal corruption, sedition, treason, I mean personal corruption, their socialist ideology, and they put the party above the welfare of the people. So this is what we've got. They've gotten rid of everybody but the Milleys and the Comeys and the odd squad.

It's just, you know, it's extremely disturbing to see the military bend to woke politics and nonsense like this. I don't know if I could wake up and put my pants on in the morning if I thought this was a majority. There's way too many. There are instructors in our military academies that are okay with critical race theory. There are top brass that are more concerned about, you know, making sure we make everything okay for our transgender soldiers than they are worried about winning wars. And I think it's just a few, but it is, but it's poison. It is poison, and we've got to have the will and the spine and the desire to do something about that so that, um, so that we can have a military that is concerned with what a military needs to be concerned about, and that is keeping America strong, doing their duty, winning wars, protecting us against, uh, you know, enemies foreign and domestic, all that good stuff. And, uh, well, of course, in the military's case, mostly foreign and, um, and keeping a clear eye toward what the job of the military is. And it has been a, uh, a scary prospect to see. I mean, we're always going to have people whose brains and spines and are going to be eaten up by this stuff. And I'm not going to suggest that the military is going to forever be immune, because the military has also made made up of human beings, and human beings can have varying ideas, varying politics, and different administrations can bring different things. And this is part of why we have got to retain some focus on what the military's job actually is. Mark Davis in for Dennis. Okay, clear. Let me reestablish video. I had to grab— the first thing I had to do was grab—

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Israel is getting ready for their fourth jab. Now, some people— this is how dishonest the media is— they say, well, Israel in the last couple of days, they've seen their rates go down. Now, why do you think that COVID rates would be going down in Israel the last couple of days? Anybody? Is it because the vaccine, masks? No, it's because the high holidays. OK, people are staying at home and they're not going out and they're not working and they're not congregating. So they've locked down the country through basically pseudo-religious mandate. Israel and Sweden, if you look at the 7-day rolling average of new cases per 100,000, Sweden, on this chart that has been published, is right around 10%. Israel has far exceeded 100%. And in fact, there are more cases right now happening in America and the Western world than there were a year ago. And a very basic question should be, is the vaccine helping or is it hurting? What's the answer to that question? Why is it that rates keep on going up the more vaccinated we are. Well, Israel is the only country in the world that gives the third vaccination to everyone at ages 12+. A COVID passport is required for 12+. And by the way, let me just say, I'm a very— I'm a lover of Israel and Jerusalem. I don't know if I'm ever going back to Israel. I don't. I said this to one of my friends the other day who runs a great project there. He said, oh, you'll be coming back. I said, I don't know if I'll be welcome in Israel because I'm not getting vaccinated. I'm not doing this stuff. Numerous blockades throughout Israel and mask mandates where Sweden has no booster shots, no COVID passports, no lockdowns, and no masks.

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Any teacher who's taping masks to 9-year-olds' heads should be fired immediately.

I mean, that's not—

I'm not going out on a limb here to say that. Do you disagree with that? Now, the lunatics who are so—

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I'm doing great. How are you today?

Fantastic. Thank you.

Excellent. So there hasn't been a lot of coverage about this, and I just want to put it out there for all the listeners, whoever wants to hear. The United States Postal Service, or at least the rural side of the Postal Service, will not be mandating vaccines. Vaccines for their employees.

I think it's the whole Postal Service. I think, I think it's everybody. What is it, like 450,000 people work for the Postal Service? And there's Biden the other day mandating vaccines for certain elements of government work, which as president he can probably do, uh, but the Postal Service mysteriously exempt. Gee, I wonder why.

Well, I can tell you why. Uh, because we are unionized. In order to mandate the vaccination, that would be a condition of employment. I work with the union, so I all this. Um, in order to make something a condition of employment, it has to be bid on and it has to be entered into our contracts with the Postal Service.

Okay. How many other government workers have similar union, um, clauses in their contractual relationship?

That's one thing I wondered as well, because like with the other private companies that are unionized, this is the same way for them as well.

Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. Right, because in a private company, you would think a private company could do whatever it wants. But if there's some contract that dictates certain guidelines that you don't just have just as a condition of showing up as a regular employee, all right, well, listen, so let me ask you, this is a wonderful opportunity, John, I appreciate it. How long you been working for the Postal Service?

I've been working on the Postal Service for about 15 years. I've been working with with the National Rural Letters Carriers Association, the union there, for the last 3 and a half.

Well, God bless you. Thank you for all you and everybody that shares your job does in terms of delivering the mail. I consider it a modern miracle. I can slap 50-some cents on something and wind up in a post office in somebody's mailbox in Alaska. I think that's incredible. But so let me ask you, when somebody thinks of unions, and I think about, you know, there are a number of unions I can mention, the Teamsters, the UAW, etc., etc. How do the politics run in the letter carriers union?

It's very interesting. So starting out at the local office, you start at the local steward, and that you're actually voted into by the rural carriers at the office. From there up, it's appointed by higher up in the union itself. So the district stewards are appointed by the area reps, and the area reps are appointed District reps, and the district reps are appointed by the South Carolina— for South Carolina, you got the South Carolina National Letter Carriers Association part of the union, and that's appointed by them.

So is some of it geographic? If I'm showing up at a letter carriers union meeting in, you know, in New Jersey or Massachusetts, is it probably politically different than a letter carriers union gathering in South Carolina? Carolina.

Yes, it'll be different because it's all— it's one large union, but we are separated into separate districts.

Gotcha.

Well, thank you for letting me do the additional Q&A there, and thanks for calling. And God bless all y'all who are letter carriers. Thank you for the amazing level of service that you guys deliver quite literally every day. Appreciate you. Alrighty, alrighty. What's that old creed? Neither rain nor sleet nor dark of night will keep the litter carrier from his or her appointed rounds. Good folks, man. Good folks. Keep the dogs tied up. Alrighty, Dennis Prager Show for a Thursday. Mark Davis filling in. More of your calls are next. Fill an open line right now at 1-800-PRAGER-776, and we will continue.

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Israel is getting ready for their fourth jab. Now, some people— this is how dishonest the media is— they say, well, Israel in the last couple of days, they've seen their rates go down. Now, why do you think that COVID rates would be going down in Israel the last couple of days? Anybody? Is it because the vaccine, masks? No, it's because of the high holidays. Okay. People are staying at home and they're not going out and they're not working and they're not congregating.

Investigating.

So they've locked down the country through basically pseudo-religious mandate. Israel and Sweden, if you look at the 7-day rolling average of new cases per 100,000, Sweden on this chart that has been published is right around 10%. Israel has far exceeded 100%. And in fact, there are more cases right now happening in America and the Western world than there were a year ago. And a very basic question should be, is the vaccine helping or is it hurting? What's the answer to that question? Why is it that rates keep on going up the more vaccinated we are? Well, Israel is the only country in the world that gives the third vaccination to everyone at ages 12+. A COVID passport is required for 12+. And by the way, let me just say, I'm a very— I'm a lover of Israel and Jerusalem. I don't know if I'm ever going back to Israel.

I don't.

I said this to one of my friends the other day who runs a great project there. He said, oh, you'll be coming back. I said, I don't know if I'll be welcome in Israel because I'm not getting vaccinated and I'm not doing any of this stuff. Numerous blockades throughout Israel and mask mandates where Sweden has no booster shots. No COVID passports, no lockdowns, and no masks.

Keep up with what's trending. Subscribe on YouTube today. Trending now on the Mike Gallagher Show.

Any teacher who's taping masks to 9-year-olds' heads should be fired immediately.

I mean, that's not—

I'm not going out on a limb here to say that. Do you disagree with that? Now, the lunatics who are so mask and vaccine crazed, who are freaking out about 100,000 people in a college football stadium, I'll bet they think that's okay. Well, the 9-year-old doesn't have his mask on, you got to tape it to his head. Tape it to— tape the mask.

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I'm fine.

Good.

Nice to have you.

Can you please find out, in light of Biden's forgetfulness, who is behind the scenes holding the button?

What?

Somebody. And if they don't want to tell you easily, you should demand it.

Yeah, okay, let me just take that ball and run with it for a little bit. Okay, the button is one question, but the general metaphor for a nuclear strike capability, maybe pulling the strings might have been, you know, operating the marionette hookup might have been a better metaphor. But let's spend an honest moment about that. President Biden, and I say this without a shred of political disdain, is in obvious cognitive decline. I, as a layperson, cannot diagnose Alzheimer's or technical dementia or, you know, examine brain plaques, right? And that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about cognitive decline. We have all seen it. We all have a loved one who at some point has started to blink out on the way down that path of cognitive decline. Is it all the time? No. Sometimes adrenaline, a good nap, you know, nice tasty bowl of soup, and he could be up and ready to roll. And here's the funny thing, you remember during the— I think I might have hosted the Prager Show leading up to one of the debates, and everybody was like, oh man, Trump's just gonna wipe the floor with them. I said, sit tight on this, they're gonna over-prep him, he will absolutely get a nap in, and this notion that Trump is just going to go through him like a buzzsaw while his eyes glaze over and, you know, and he asks for ice cream, it's not going to happen. Happen. And guess what? It didn't happen. Biden actually did okay in the debates. I mean, the content was terrible because I'm a conservative, I wouldn't buy in any of what he was selling. But in terms of performance and was he able to complete sentences in the English language? Yes, he was. So is it all the time? No, but it's a whole lot of the time, and it is an increasing percentage of the time. And so Does that mean that he is not really at the controls? It doesn't automatically mean it, but it might mean that if— and it's kind of funny, one wonders who that might be. If you— is it Kamala Harris? I, I gotta tell you, I don't know that it is. Um, when I take a look at the, you know, the This Tony Blinken character, who is just one of the weakest mirages of a Secretary of State, it gets me to thinking though that these kind of academic eggheads are exactly the kind of folks who might really be nudging, jostling, leading, guiding a a, a non-participatory Joe Biden down whatever path they wish. Now again, every day, no, but just every once in a while, because this, this is not a man with a capacity to be energetically plugged in to the degree that he should every day. He is just not all there. So it will eternally be a fascinating question who is calling some of the shots, but I tell you what, no matter who it is, it's on him. It's his presidency. It's his responsibility. And so irrespective of who might be moving the levers of power, Our job as conservatives is to point out that whoever it is, it's a screw-up, and the ultimate result needs to be consequences at the ballot box in 2022 as his party is ushered from power in the House, and please Lord, the Senate as well. And then we start to tee it up and succeed this presidency, not just with somebody who's conservative, but with somebody who's coherent. I hope I'm not asking too much here. Alrighty, let's see where we be. Um, let's, um, rather we are in Sun City, Arizona. Eunice, hi, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How you doing? Hey Eunice, how are you? That's God saying get to the break on time, so you know You know what? I'm gonna do it because we got like 30 seconds. That would have been a quick walkthrough. It's also a lesson that says, hey, when you hear a voice coming through the phone, start talking. All righty, all things Dennis are available at DennisPrager.com. All things related to me, you can find in the crazy world of Twitter @MarkDavis. If you want to, uh, if you're wondering, hey, what's that local show like that this guy hosts? 660amtheanswer.com, click podcast, or just Mark Davis anywhere you get podcasts, and you can see all the, uh, the fralickin' antics that we're up to on the local show. Every time I show up here, it's always a joy. Appreciate it. I'll have some final words of gratitude and some thoughts about what might be coming up in the news when we return. Very cool.

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I really, I have to control myself, Jenna, because in the last 5 to 10 years, I think it's fair to say empirically that there's been an amazing shift, a sea change, in American attitudes to abortion, and especially in the youth, in the under-30s, who understand. They follow the science. They understand that this is a human being inside a mother's womb. I don't want to get carried away with myself, but how important— you are, you've taught constitutional law, you're a practicing lawyer, How important, how significant is the SCOTUS decision and the signing into effect of the new heartbeat law in Texas?

It's very significant. And even though this was simply a denial of an emergency application to stay the law, it shows that the Supreme Court is no longer reflexively protecting abortion as a so-called right. And that's what is the most important part of this decision. The Supreme Court said that they were not ruling on the merits of the issue. Of course, it will be litigated further on the merits and potentially wind its way up back to the Supreme Court. But what they are saying here is that no longer will an activist majority simply say, "Sorry, states, you do not have a compelling interest to protect unborn life." And so, for all of us who understand actual science, and who have seen the science, who see the strides that we have made in showing—

Well, it has been quite the Dennis Prager Show. I know your favorite thing is to have the Dennis Prager Show hosted by Dennis Prager. You know what? Mine too. As a listener, mine too. And tomorrow, Dennis will be back to take you out of the week with a Friday show for the ages, I am sure. But today for the Yom Kippur edition, hey, the bat signal hits and you know, gotta bring the Crispin guy in. So here I am and it was a joy to be here and I hope it's a blessed holiday for everybody who is of the faith to follow the gravity and the importance of Yom Kippur. So Dennis is back tomorrow, so thank you for hanging out with me today. As we part company until whenever the next time is, and it never seems like it's that far away, I always appreciate it. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. The book is Upside Down on Amazon or anywhere else that you buy books. Upside Down: How the Left Turned Right into Wrong, Truth into Lies, Good into Bad. And you follow my local radio exploits at 660ameanswer.com. So what have we learned today? What's one of the takeaways from today's broadcast experience? Well, we had Larry Elder on at the beginning of last hour. And he is extremely proud of what he was able to achieve, and he should be. And I am extremely proud of my friend and colleague. I asked him, because I know this is what most of y'all care about, uh, when are you back on the radio? And his answer, his literal answer, was, I don't know. And I don't want to overanalyze or engage in mind reading, of which I am not capable, but he had the vibe of someone who is very moved by the way this experience went. You have 2.5 million people vote for you, actually drive somewhere and vote for you. That's a big deal. I mean, having all of you listen to us on the radio is an incredible joy and a gift, and we're grateful every day. But man, you get people come to vote for you in an actual election— it's— and when I say intoxicating, I don't mean everybody's like drunk on power, like, yeah, yay me! But there is There's something incredibly meaningful about that. It makes you want to give back. And I, you know, and again, I don't know, and I'm not doing mind reading here, but I think Larry's involved in wondering what his best way to give back is right now after this election that did— and it's funny because while the notion of getting rid of Gavin Newsom failed by nearly a 2-to-1 margin, in that massive field of candidates, Larry got almost 50% of them. And that's incredible. And so I, I don't know, I, I don't, uh, I don't see Larry on the show tomorrow, and I wouldn't know if I look for him next week either. But I did offer, um, heartfelt recommendation, part of it purely selfishly as a listener and colleague. I said, Larry, my friend, if you're thinking about a lot of options that are available to you, the world is your oyster. All kinds of things are available to you, and maybe some are available now that wouldn't have otherwise been had you not run for governor of California. But whatever those things are, as you take a look at those multiple options, why don't you hash those out with listeners while hosting the show? But then I'm a radio guy and I want all the radio guys to be doing radio shows, but maybe Larry's wondering, am I a radio guy for forever? Anyway, look, I'm Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Dennis is back tomorrow. God bless, and I'll see you soon. Dennis Prager Show, live from the Relief Factor Studios. I didn't get to do the thank you credits. I'm sorry, that was too quick. But no problem, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks to all y'all. Christian, Suzette, everybody, appreciate it. I will see you guys very— I'm so sorry about whatever in the world that was. I'll get with Barry and see if there was anything preventable, make sure it doesn't happen again.