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To the Dennis Prager Show on this Thursday. It is the 28th day. Gotta say, gotta be careful saying morning because depending on the time, uh, the location you might be in this wonderful country of ours. I always like to start my programs by saying welcome to this program on the morning of the 28th morning of the first month of the year of our Lord 2022. Uh, so I got to be careful though because you may be morning, you may be afternoon, I don't know. But welcome. My name is Bob France, sitting in for Dennis live here. I am in the afternoon now as I am in the Eastern Time Zone. So welcome to this afternoon's broadcast of the Dennis Prager Show live in Cleveland, Ohio. The home base is AM 1420 The Answer. And I'm having a little bit of a hard time hearing myself here, so I'm going to ask my guys to push a button or two on the other side so that I can hear myself a little bit better. But welcome. What an incredibly important day. And I want to explain something as we get started today, and I welcome you, of course, to call. You know the number: 877-243-7776. When you are ready, 877-243-7776. Coming up in about an hour, at the top of our second hour, we are going to address the defining issue of our time right now: our right to speak and to be heard and to not be suppressed and to not be censored, to not be arrested for expressing ourselves in a manner that the First Amendment demands that we have the right to do. We're going to talk with Patrick Wood, who is the executive director and founder of Citizens for Free Speech. He's going to be joining us to talk about a number of issues, everything from bird watcher which is if you are still— and I don't know how many of us are, I know I am not one— um, that still uses Twitter, this would impact you or affect you in some way. Birdwatcher, which is essentially an Orwellian maneuver by the tech giants, the technocrats, uh, Jack Dorsey, the owner and founder of, uh, of, of Twitter. It's an Orwellian manner of demanding that citizens report and, um, rat essentially on dissenters, those who are not preaching the party orthodoxy. So when I say Orwellian, of course you know I speak of 1984. There's probably a little bit of Huxley in there as well, but literally we're telling and demanding that other users keep an eye on, spy on, monitor, watch, stalk, and report to the party elders, report to the government, if you will. And in this case, the government is the ownership of the big tech companies like Twitter and like Facebook and like Google and like Amazon and Apple. Report to them things that you see that you don't like so that we can effectively silence any of that dissent. And we're going to talk about that. It is— I mean, look, we're dealing with a host of issues, don't get me wrong. We have foreign policy nightmares, we have energy nightmares, we have job nightmares. All of those nightmares have been kind of crammed together in one 6-day span of what has become the Biden administration at this point. But, um, the one defining issue that we have here is our fundamental constitutional rights to disagree. And the organization that Patrick represents, that we'll talk to at the top of the second hour, Citizens for Free Speech, is passionate about defending those rights. The First Amendment is under serious assault, not just, by the way, from the technocrats. It's one thing for Zuckerberg to censor, ban, silence conservative viewpoints on Facebook. One could argue, if they wanted to be very strict, well, that's a private company. You use their service at their pleasure, and they can allow anybody on they want and disallow anybody they want. Now, I think there's a major problem with that that needs to be dealt with legislatively. I think clearly when social media platforms have risen to such prominence in, in terms of the conveyance of information in people's lives, they have effectively become media. Not just social media any longer, but media. And as such, they should be held to the same standards as traditional media. And quite frankly, they have an outsized influence over the way people in this country think anymore. So for them to just say it's a private company, we can use it how we want, and we can deny users the access to it if we want. They may have a point from simply a private enterprise conveyance of news and information à la broadcast networks. They are just as relied upon, if not more so, than traditional media or legacy media is these days, and they should be held accountable. But it's not just the Dorseys and the Zuckerbergs and the rest of the big tech giants that we have to talk about here. For the first time We now are watching government, government playing a role in the suppression of free speech in the form of an FBI raid and arrest of a private citizen for daring to go onto the internet and share memes. You heard me correctly, memes, M-E-M-E-S, memes. Political memes, which are all over the internet. Some of them are satire, parody. Some of them are mocking. Some of them are downright cruel. Make no mistake about it, I get that. But all of them are protected, or at least they used to be, by free speech. And for the first time, the government now— I believe it's for the first time. My friend Daniel Horowitz at Conservative Review believes that it's for the first time. For the very first time, the government is arresting people for their expression of speech. A man in Florida was arrested for posting and sharing memes that advised people in 2016 Don't worry about going to the polls. You can text your vote for Hillary. Text Hillary to this number and your vote will be counted. Don't bother going to the polls. He has been arrested and charged with trying to disenfranchise people, to literally steal their votes from them, when he has done no such thing. But he has been arrested. We are careening into a very, very dangerous place right now. We are going to— we— I don't know when we're going to hit the point of no return, cross the proverbial Rubicon, but I will tell you this: if one person can be arrested for sharing a Facebook or Twitter meme during an election or during a campaign, we all can be arrested for doing something similar. How many of us have posted on social media things that are not accurate but are funny? How many of us have posted— I mean, let me, let me back up for a second. Long before the advent of social media memes, we had something called political cartoons. Political editorial cartoons, right? How many of them, in the interest of satire, have a politician saying something that the politician really didn't say, or doing something that a politician or elected official or public figure really didn't do? It's called satire. It's called joking. It's called making fun, and it's called protected speech. That's what internet memes are. Making fun of liberal voters, as this particular individual was doing, and I'll give you more details on it in the next segment, but making fun of liberal voters by saying, "These people are so stupid, if you tell them to text their votes, they'll think they can actually vote by text. Here you go, vote for Hillary." I'm with her. Text your vote to this person, one vote per— or to this number, one vote per person, etc., etc., etc. And apparently some 4,900, according to the FBI, some 4,900 liberal Hillary supporters did. They texted the word Hillary to a certain number, proving the point of the beam. These people are idiots. But did they really have their votes denied? Did they really have their votes stolen any more so than the thousands of sworn affidavits show were stolen in this 2020 election? Thousands of sworn affidavits. You know what that means. A sworn affidavit is the same thing as swearing under oath in a court of law. You are subject to perjury penalties. And they— we have tons of those that have been signed. Nobody said a word in 2020, but we're going to go back and arrest people now for 2016. All right, uh, we are off and rolling. We have a lot to talk about today. I appreciate you being with us on The Dennis Prager Show. Bob France sitting in. We'll be right back.

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Can you imagine the president of the United States feeling an obligation, I guess, to his people to bring up these two things, which I consider essentially fake? I mean, the idea that anybody that you know or I know would agree with white nationalism or domestic terrorism, much less be a part of it, is just outstanding. It is breathtaking to me that he said this in an inaugural speech where he's calling for unity. I just—

No, you're not by yourself, and there's a lot of people that are pointing to the same realities, that it's one thing to have rhetoric that talks about being unified. And here's something else I think we all need to just get over. Unity may on some level be virtuous, but it is not the highest of virtues.

And there are virtues that are actually much more valuable from a moral and even civil scale, and one of those is freedom. Take out all of the references to unity in yesterday's speech and replace it with conformity, you have a better understanding of what the left actually means. But I think that there are some things that are far more important than unity. Clarity is one of them. To be clear and to clearly understand what truth is, is a far higher, greater virtue than unity. I also believe that at the end of the day, conformity is what they're really talking about. I believe that the defense of freedom is a greater virtue than what they're dealing with. So that's kind of where we're at.

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Department of Homeland Security, which has put out a national terrorism advisory system against what they are calling a new term, domestic violent extremists who have perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, including with regards to the inauguration. How worried are you that we are seeing the federal government turn against potentially 74 million Americans who voted for conservatism?

I was talking to a friend of mine from India, and I was talking about some of the suddenly widespread threats to free speech in this country, and he seemed genuinely baffled. He said, "I thought you Americans were fighting over the Second Amendment. I didn't realize you were fighting over the First." So here is something that I've taken for granted in America my entire adult life, I've done it through Democratic and Republican administrations. We have never seen— and what's particularly fascist about this is the coordination between the state and large private sector entities. The distinctive type of socialism that the fascists preferred was not to make the state take over everything, but the state to tell the media what to do. The state would tell the companies what to manufacture. The state would direct and private companies would carry it out. And we see this now, uh, censorship being driven not solely by the federal government, but the federal government in coordination with digital media.

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Jen Psaki is having a tough week, but we will circle back. Let's play the montage of Jen Psaki just in the last week. She's got a lot. I don't know if there was—

she ever You are indeed home, if home is the Dennis Prager Show. And yeah, I'm gonna roll with that. Bob France sitting in Dennis's house, if you will, right now. Thanks for being with us. I'm live in Cleveland, Ohio, in the ReliefFactor.com studios, pain-free as they are. Phone number is 1-800-PRAGER-776. That's 877-243-7776. You know, I wanted to start actually today's broadcast by talking about the executive orders being forced upon the American people, destructive and deadly. And they are all of those things, destructive and deadly, by Joe Biden, who has decided that it's actually not dictatorial to use executive orders when a liberal Democrat is issuing the executive orders. You probably remember what Joe Biden said back in October, just about a month, even a little less than a month because it was kind of late October. About a month before the election, when Joe Biden declared that you need to get the votes, you've got to get the legislative votes to enact your policies, and if you don't, you're a dictator. He said we're a democracy. He said that erroneously, of course, as we are not a democracy. We are a representative republic, which is very much different. But at any rate, he said we're a democracy and you cannot govern by executive order unless you are a dictator. Well, apparently Joe Biden is a dictator. That's how I wanted to start this broadcast and talk about so many of these executive orders, but I kind of got caught chasing a squirrel here, and I'm gonna go all the way up the tree with it here. I want to talk a little bit more about the freedoms that we are watching erode before our very eyes, the freedoms to express ourselves, the freedoms to argue, to issue a dissenting viewpoint. And we know that censorship is being practiced by the far left in terms of technology and technocracy. by way of our banning and suppression and shadow bans and so forth on, on social media platforms. But we're talking about the FBI now, and I mentioned my friend Daniel Horowitz, uh, from Conservative Review. He's one of my most trusted sources of incredible information on these— in these areas. And he wrote a piece this morning talking about the bizarre arrest of a quote-unquote social media influencer That's what they're calling him, is a social media influencer who used technology and used social media platforms to rob people, to steal votes from actual American voters by using the internet to share internet memes. Headline: Social media influencer charged with the election interference stemming from voter disinformation campaign. Very odd, very vague, clearly. So let's look a little deeper. As Daniel writes, a Florida man was arrested this morning on charges of conspiring with others in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election to use various social media platforms to disseminate misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote, end quote. Now I'm going to pause here for a little bit of an editorial comment. That comment is, "Are these people serious?" Depriving one of their constitutional right to vote is different than playing on their stupidity and saying, "Don't wait in line to vote. Text your vote to Hillary right here." That's not depriving someone of their vote. That's just exposing somebody's extraordinary stupidity. I'll get back away from the editorial now and talk more about this. Uh, again, Daniel Horowitz writing about this. So the DOJ is finally going to go after election fraud? What did this guy do, throw out ballots, engage in mail-in fraud like endless witnesses and sworn affidavits did, and testimony before the legislatures? No, no, no, no, no, the DOJ is not interested in that tangible fraud. They are arresting a guy who simply used speech. Douglas Mackey, whose online name at the time was Ricky Vaughn, which is kind of cute. That's the pitcher that Charlie Sheen played in the, uh, 1989 movie Major League. Ricky Vaughn, AKA, or rather Douglas Mackey, AKA Ricky Vaughn of West Palm Beach, taken into custody and charged with having, quote, exploited a social media platform to infringe upon one of the most basic and sacred rights guaranteed by the Constitution, the right to vote, end quote. According to Nicholas McQuaid, acting assistant attorney general of the Justice Department's Criminal Division. After several paragraphs of DOJ officials bloviating about the constitutional dangers, or the dangers rather, of violating somebody's constitutional right to vote, they finally got around to describing what the individual did. How did they engage in fraud? How did this person engage in fraud? On November 1st, 2016, this is just days before the November 8th election, Mackey allegedly tweeted an image that featured an African-American woman standing in front of an African-Americans for Hillary sign. The image included the following text: Avoid the line, vote from home. Text Hillary to 59925. Vote for the candidate— vote for Hillary, rather— and be a part of history. The fine print at the bottom of the image stated, "Must be 18 or older to vote. One vote per person. Must be a legal citizen of the United States. Voting by text not available in Guam, Puerto Rico, Alaska, or Hawaii. Paid for by Hillary for President 2016." The tweet also included the hashtags #GoHillary and another slogan frequently used, which I believe is probably #ImWithHer. On or about and before Election Day 2016, according to the FBI, at least 4,900 unique telephone numbers texted the word Hillary or some derivative of it 259925, which was used in multiple deceptive campaign images tweeted by the defendant and his co-conspirators. Now Daniel writes and explains accurately, this is very scary, not the crime, but that the feds are going after such behavior while ignoring sworn allegations of mass fraud in this election. How was anyone's vote stolen with this subterfuge? Did somebody take somebody's vote at a counting in a counting room and discard it? That would be stealing a vote. Did somebody actually take one's vote and count it twice, double voting, which cancels somebody else's vote? That would be stealing someone's vote. The only thing that was done here is somebody used social media and the habitual use of memes to parody and make fun of other people They did this to get a laugh, not to engage in subterfuge, thus, you know, essentially stealing votes from private individuals. There are a lot of distasteful ways, Daniel writes, to use your freedom of speech, sometimes in a serious way, sometimes in a joking way. But guess what? The First Amendment was not written to protect benign speech. The First Amendment was written— this is me now— the First Amendment was written to protect the speech that we find tasteful, to protect speech that we find offensive, to protect— I mean, if everyone spoke in flowery, wonderful, glowing terms to one another, there would be no need for First Amendment protections. First Amendment protections are given and are made by the Constitution to protect speech that others disagree with. And right now in this country, as the FBI starts playing the role of Jack Dorsey, of Twitter and Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook and censoring the voices of free people, and not just blocking them from platforms but threatening to lock them up. Now we're in very, very Orwellian territory. I want to hear from you. We'll open up the phone lines next on The Dennis Prager Show.

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Department of Homeland Security, which has put out a national terrorism advisory system against what they are calling a new term, domestic violent extremists, who have perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, including with regards to the inauguration. How worried are you that we are seeing the federal government turn against potentially 74 million Americans who voted for conservatism?

I was talking to a friend of mine from India, and I was talking about some of the suddenly widespread threats to free speech in this country. And he seemed genuinely baffled. He said, I thought you Americans were fighting over the Second Amendment. I didn't realize you're fighting over the First. So here is something that I've taken for granted in America my entire adult life. I've done it through Democratic and Republican administrations. We have never seen— and what's fascist about this is the coordination between the state and large private sector entities. The distinctive type of socialism that the fascists preferred was not to make the state take over everything, but the state to tell the media what to do. The state would tell the companies what to manufacture. The state would direct and private companies would carry it out. And we see this now, censorship being driven not solely by the federal government But the federal government, in coordination with digital media—

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Jen Psaki is having a tough week, but we will circle back. Let's play the montage of Jen Psaki Just in the last week, she's got a lot. I don't know if she ever circled back to any of these questions.

Do you—

could you imagine if Kayleigh McEnany would have been just saying something like this? Play tape.

I can— I'll circle back if there's more I can share with you. I'll circle back with you if there's more to convey. I'll have to just circle back with you. We can circle back with him. I'm happy to circle back with you. I can circle back. I will have to circle back on that one. That's an excellent question. Oh, such an important question. We'll circle back with you and we'll circle back with you. It's an interesting question, but we'll circle back. I'm happy to circle back, but I'll have to circle back with you on it. It's a good question, but we'll circle back with you on this today. We will certainly circle back with you more directly.

That's one week. She's got a lot of circling back to do.

Maybe we should circle back with her on whether or not she circled back on any of those questions.

I'd like to know if she actually circled back with this. And look, one of the reasons why— and, Isabel, you made this point in the break, there's just kind of this clumsiness to how to answer these questions is we need to ask themselves, ask Jen Psaki and the White House, why are you there? What is your mandate? And actually, by pursuing the impeachment and conviction of Trump, they are pursuing the one mandate they told themselves, right?

Their entire objective on the campaign trail was to get rid of Donald Trump, whatever it took. And then once we get there, we'll kind of figure out what we want to do. Once we're in office. And you're seeing that so perfectly reflected in these daily press briefings, which kudos to them for having, by the way, starting on day one. It is great to see a public face of the administration, but her inability to answer any question virtually to a full extent just goes to show that they're still figuring out what they want to do.

And also, it's just— that's exactly right. And the mandate to govern is missing.

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If they—

if you don't like the forum and the way they monitor and censor and ban and suspend accounts, then start your own platform, is what they say. Okay, Parler did exactly that. Parler said, okay, All these people are getting kicked off Twitter, having their comments censored or having them altered, or shadow banning happening. All of these things that we don't like happening, we're going to go over to Parler. We're going to have a free speech zone over there. And then what did they do? The same people that I just mentioned, the most dangerous men in the world, shut the competition down. And they say, well, you know, first of all, go build your own. If it works, we'll shut it down. And by the way, over here, remember, we're still private companies, so we can do whatever whatever we want. Nobody's going to throw you in jail for your speech on here. That's the only way it would be a real violation of the First Amendment to the Constitution. So it doesn't count. But what does matter is this: how many funds are raised for political candidates based on social media postings, social media campaigns? Political campaigns have entire teams of social media directors. And they raise money for candidates and raise money for causes online. And if only one party has access to do so, we're talking about something much bigger than just somebody, you know, putting a platform up where they can allow anybody they want to use it or deny anybody that they wish from using it. It's not just about speech anymore. It's ability to engage in commerce, to engage in electoral fundraising, to engage in a host of activities that are extraordinarily important to essentially, you know, all of our rights. That's why— that's what makes them different. It's not just controlling the news, it's controlling the flow of information, it's controlling the ability for people to unite and communicate with one another. How many Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots were staged and organized on Twitter by affiliated and acknowledged Antifa and Black Lives Matter accounts. I mean, they're on there, they're easy to find, they're all over the place. They talk about where they will meet, what their plans are, they invite each other to private rooms or web pages so they can organize together, and it's never been a problem. No one has expressed one iota of concern that the social media platforms have been used to organize staged protests that become riots, and they did it all summer long. Now you've got Parler and some people using the free speech of Parler to talk about going to the Trump rally on January 6th, and now Parler is being accused of fomenting and facilitating the assault on the Capitol, and so Parler has to go. It is impossibly— it's impossible, let's phrase it this way, impossible to comprehend the depth of the double standards in play here. I do want to hear from you, and I do see the call screen now. We're up and rolling. We're going to take your calls next on The Dennis Prager Show. My name is Bob France, live from Cleveland, Ohio, in the studios of WHK AM 1420 The Answer, and we'll be back.

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I like having on Senator Paul and we can agree on things and I want to thank him for offering his his motion yesterday to dismiss the article of impeachment as improvidently delivered and unconstitutional. Is that a fair description, Senator Paul, of what you attempted to do yesterday?

Exactly, Hugh. The thing is, is that to impeach former presidents means that we could impeach any private citizen, really. And our founding fathers didn't want that. I mean, the British would do that to former officeholders. In Latin America, they still do that. Every president of Guatemala is elected in fanfare and then goes to jail when he leaves. You know, that's the kind of thing that happens in a, in a third world country, but we don't want that to happen in our country. And so I think it was important to put people on record. The other reason I did the vote was this basically essentially by the vote yesterday says that the impeachment trial is dead on arrival, and that it's going to be a partisan thing where the Democrats can have fun with their, you know, Eric Swalwell and all his, you know, famous spied on He will be able— they'll be able to make political points, but basically the actual idea that this is a real impeachment is over now.

I want to read some headlines, Senator Paul, just so people understand. The Financial Times: Nearly all Republicans back Trump in early impeachment test. United Kingdom's Telegraph: Democrats' hope of convicting Trump fades. Only 5 Republican senators back holding a Senate trial. The Times of Israel: Republican senators mostly vote against holding Trump impeachment trial. Wall Street Journal. Most Republican senators reject constitutionality of Trump impeachment. It goes on and on. Does everyone generally agree that this thing is a sham now?

I think so.

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His name is Michael Pack. He's been on this program before, uh, because he was behind what can only be described as a spectacular documentary film about Clarence Thomas. Um, it was on PBS, which is as good as the film. In other words, as good as the film is, the fact that it was on PBS is perhaps frankly better than the film. It's outstanding that it was able to be aired on PBS. Michael Pak, welcome.

Thank you very much, Eric. And let me remind your viewers and listeners, they can still see it. It's streaming. It's on Amazon and iTunes and many other platforms. And it is a great film. I agree with you, Eric.

Would you drop the title for us, please?

It's called Created Equal: Clarence Thomas in His Own Words.

The fact, Michael, that you were able to get it on PBS That's really the big news, because a lot of great stuff out there that doesn't find mainstream distribution. The fact that PBS viewers got to see the other side of the story, so to speak, was astounding. What's the secret there?

Well, that's true. That was always very important to us, not just to preach to the choir. And, well, I have been making documentaries for PBS for over 30 years, and there have been more than 15 that have been aired nationally. And I have to say, in defense of PBS, that they've always been enthusiastic about this film. It's Justice Thomas telling a story directly to camera based on 30 hours of interview time with him. Unprecedented. It was a coup at every level for PBS. I hope that they would still air it now, now that we've entered an even more polarizing time. I hope so, but I'm not so sure.

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Here's a question that she should have circled back on.

Let's 16 minutes before the top of the hour. Thanks for joining us again for The Dennis Prager Show. Bob France sitting in for Dennis, live in Cleveland, Ohio at WHK-AM 1420 The Answer. That is the relieffactor.com studio that we use each and every day from 9 until 11 Eastern time. I welcome you to join us. You know Dennis's phone number by now: 8-Prager-776. That's 877-243-7776. Let's go to John calling us from Pittsburgh. You are on the Dennis Prager Show. Hi, John, go ahead. I'm not hearing John. See if we can plug that.

Yes, sir. How you doing?

Okay, John, I've got you now. Go right ahead, sir. Thank you.

Yeah, I just want to make a comment about Google, Facebook, Twitter. Those are all publicly traded stock companies, and as such, they're not private. I don't know, it's like I hear people saying that, well, they're private, they can do what they want. Not really.

Well, they're private in the context— they're, they're private in the context that they're not, um, uh, they're not owned by the government. They're private companies, not government-run companies or government-regulated companies in that regard. That's kind of what they mean by private. They're publicly traded, yes, but that just means that there are private investors who are part of, you know, through their public trading, they're part of those companies, but they're not government-controlled. And when they talk, and this is their excuse, what I'm trying to say, John, is when they talk about censorship and they say, well, this isn't really a violation of the First Amendment because it's not the government restricting your speech, it's private companies restricting who can use their services. And in that context, they are private.

Yeah, I still don't think that they can actually censor people, uh, for their, for their opinions on those things just because they're not— because they're publicly traded. Now, if they were privately owned, like Hobby Lobby, for instance, and they have their religious belief, you know, they don't want to pay for abortions, for instance, I think that's their right because they're privately owned to government and no one else can tell them what to do because no one owns their stock. But as a publicly owned company with the stock, well, I'm a conservative, but I own some shares of Twitter. Well, you know, they're going against what I believe, you know, is free speech.

Gotcha.

You see what I'm saying?

No, you make a great point, John. I do. I do. You make a very good point and I appreciate the phone call. Thanks for the clarification too. I just want to, um, yeah, thank you. I just want to be clear, and let's move on here. John, thank you for the call. Thank you. Okay. I lost my train of thought. With respect to the private versus public part of this, what makes the Twitter, Facebook monopoly that they have, and by extension, the companies that provide their apps, like Google and Apple, What makes them very different, or at least what should make them very different in the way that they are treated, is the fact that again, they are responsible for the control of information and for the ability of people to raise funds, to organize, to coordinate, and to collaborate with one another on political campaigns. That is something that is very different than, as you said, a Hobby Lobby or any other private company deciding how to, you know, enforce their own rules and how they should not be subject to government regulation and overreach with respect to their own private rules. I agree with that wholeheartedly. What we need to separate though here is the fact that these companies have an impact on how our country is run. And one of the ways that we can impact who is running our country is by way of organizing online, by way of communicating, coordinating, scheduling town hall meetings, scheduling, you know, our groups, our conservative coalition here, our group of friends and neighbors there that gets together once a month to talk about political issues, to maybe talk about who we want to back in our local school races, whatever the case might be. These things are organized online, and for them to be only available to one political ideology or one political party is, is a fundamental unfairness that has to be corrected by Congress. Congress has to get in and say these information/communication platforms cannot be exclusive to one ideology over another. That, and even though they're private, they are being used in public manners that must be regulated. Um, let's go next to John in Plainfield, Illinois. Another John. Oh, we're going to Elliot. Apologies, we're going to go to Elliot, also in Illinois though, so that's good news. Uh, Wilmette, is that right, Elliot? Are you in Wilmette, Illinois?

It's Wilmette. Thank you.

Wilmette. Good to have you.

Thank you. Great. And good to hear you. Um, I'm thinking that what they're—

what the Department of Justice is doing is strictly a precedent-setting maneuver.

It's a silly case, but even if it doesn't go anywhere, they can always threaten to use this as a precedent against anybody who's, uh, you know, going out of line, like, you know, stating their opinions on any of these social media platforms.

They can say, well, we're going to come after you if you don't do the right thing.

and they're, you know, they're very good at threatening.

That's what they do.

Well, what they're trying to do is— it's so much more than just suppressing people's speech online by way of the platforms that I'm talking about. This is a small step toward a much larger goal of flat-out crushing dissent, dissenting points of view from the party in power. And thank you, too, for the phone call. I appreciate you, Jeffrey. Um, here's what I want to share with you. This is an example of what they're trying to do. Jake Tapper on CNN, um, has been above and beyond even the other, uh, leftists who, who work and run that network, um, when it comes to defining people who were Trump supporters and lumping all of them in with the few hundred that breached the Capitol on January 6th, all 300,000 who were in attendance at the speech that day are MAGA terrorists, and all of those who support Donald Trump, thus linking them to the MAGA terrorists on the Mall that day, and thus linking them to those who went into the Capitol that day, we are all dangers. We are all considered MAGA terrorists. Listen to Jake Tapper. So how did these domestic terrorists storm the nation's Capitol? The Capitol ransacked by MAGA terrorists. The assault perpetrated by the MAGA terrorists. Terrorists. The MAGA terrorists. MAGA terrorists. Deadly attack by MAGA terrorists. The MAGA terrorist mob. A terrorist attack on the US Capitol. Far-right domestic terrorism, a huge problem in this country. Nobody supports terrorist attacks, or I used to think that anyway, but nobody rational supports terrorist attacks. Should there be repercussions for your colleagues who played a role in inciting this terrorist attack. So you understand the point here. The point is to declare anybody who is MAGA, meaning a Trump supporter or a Republican or a conservative, is a potential terrorist, and thus they must be silenced in the interest of security. More to come on the Dennis Prager Show right after this.

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His name is Michael Pack. He's been on this program before, uh, because he was behind what can only be described as a spectacular documentary film about Clarence Thomas. Um, It was on PBS, which is as good as the film. In other words, as good as the film is, the fact that it was on PBS is perhaps frankly better than the film. It's outstanding that it was able to be aired on PBS. Michael Pack, welcome.

Thank you very much, Eric. And let me remind your viewers and listeners, they can still see it. It's streaming. It's on Amazon and iTunes and many other platforms. And it is a great film. I agree with you, Eric.

Would you drop the title for us, please?

It's called Created Equal: Clarence Thomas in His Own Words.

The fact, Michael, that you were able to get it on PBS, that's really the big news, because a lot of great stuff out there that doesn't find mainstream distribution. The fact that PBS viewers got to see the other side of the story, so to speak, was astounding. What's the secret there?

Well, that's true. That was always very important to us, not just to preach to the choir, And, well, I have been making documentaries for PBS for over 30 years. And there have been more than 15 that have been aired nationally. And I have to say, in defense of PBS, that they have always been enthusiastic about this film. It's Justice Thomas telling a story directly to camera based on 30 hours of interview time with him. Unprecedented. It was a coup at every level for PBS. I hope that they would still air it now, now that we've entered an even more polarizing time. I hope so. But I'm not so sure.

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Here's a question that she should have circled back on. Let's go to Cut 63.

Is the White House concerned about the stock market activity we're seeing around GameStop?

Stock.

And have there been any conversations with the SEC about how to proceed?

Well, I'm also happy to repeat that we have the first female Treasury Secretary and a team that's surrounding her, and often questions about market we'll send to them. But our team is— of course, our economic team, including Secretary Yellen and others, are monitoring the situation. It's a good reminder, though, that the stock market isn't the only measure of the health of our economy, of our economy. Doesn't reflect how working and middle-class families are doing.

Okay, so I'm going to say something, and I don't want this to be misunderstood, but Isabel can help clarify it for me. It's completely and totally irrelevant to the question whether or not Janet Yellen is a woman. And by the way, I thought you don't believe in women or men, right?

I find it so ironic. The left is so excited.

We have our first female vice president, which is awesome to see as a 5 minutes before the top of the hour, we continue on the Dennis Prager Show. Bob France sitting in for Dennis. We're going to talk to Patrick Wood after the top of the hour. He is the executive director and founder of Citizens for Free Speech, an organization that there should be more of and we need more members of if we are truly going to fight the suppression and the straight-up censorship of speech in this country. Not just by the tech giants, but literally by the government, as we saw with the story in Florida that I told you earlier. We're going to go to Scott in Chatsworth, California. Hey, Scott, you're on the Dennis Prager Show with Bob. Go right ahead. Good morning.

I'm trying to understand the difference between a state enforcing an equal protection law that says a baker cannot refuse to bake a cake refuse to pay for a same-sex wedding, or a photographer cannot refuse to photograph a wedding of same-sex. Those are individuals that are choosing to protect their First Amendment religious rights, and the state— a state going after a company that is abridging the First Amendment right of free speech.

Well, if you're looking for some sort of an equal standard to be applied there, then you're going to be looking for a very long time. It's a fact that quite simply, if there were not for double standards, the left would have no standards at all. They don't see— see, here's the thing: your privacy to run your business the way you want, like the baker that you're talking about in Colorado, or the florist in Illinois, or any of the others, or the Little Sisters of the Poor that don't want to pay for abortion for their secretaries that work with the organization, for crying out loud. Their private rights to make their own decisions on how they run their businesses don't apply because they have a conservative ideology. If you have a leftist ideology and you wish to run your business afoul of constitutional norms, well then that's perfectly acceptable because again, you're looking for something that doesn't exist, my friend. You're looking for an equal standard applied to all, and that is not the way that it works in leftist circles. And sadly, the leftists are in control right now. Do you have anything else for us here, Scott?

Uh, no, I just was looking at the legal principle involved and, you know, I understand double standard, but But I don't see a—

there's a chance. Yeah, there's a chance that if it went to— and thank you for the call, Scott— there's a chance that if it went before a judge after many, many years of trials, like the Masterpiece Cake Shop folks had to do, uh, that, you know, that one could win in trial against the big tech companies. But, uh, that's going to be a long row to hoe, and it's going to be very difficult, and too much damage can be done. Unchecked control of single-party control of information and communication online, which is the way we communicate in this world now, is extraordinarily dangerous. We'll be right back.

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Tonight on Sean Hannity's show, Senator Lindsey Graham asserted that this is all driven by fear on the part of the Democrats. I agree, but I would, I would have to add a footnote to what Senator Graham said last night to Sean on Fox News.

Why are they doing this? They're afraid. I think Democratic senators are afraid of the left wing of their party, that if they don't give some credibility to this trial that started in the House, they're in trouble. And Joe Biden's been a huge disappointment thus far, not only on policy, but on the idea that I'm going to bring the country together. How easy would it be, Sean, for Joe Biden to say it is bad to impeach a president after they leave office? Enough already with Donald Trump. Let's look forward. So it tells you a lot about Biden's ability and desire to bring us together by the fact that he's sitting on the sidelines, and his only comment has been, I don't think they have the votes.

I don't disagree with that, but I would add one footnote. Again, I would add this: there's fear, all right? They don't know what to do with Donald Trump and tens of millions of supporters who are not going anywhere. They want us to go away. They want to wish us away. They want to will us away. They want to censor us away. They want to shut us down.

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Jen Psaki is having a tough week, but we will circle back. Let's play the montage of Jen Psaki just in the last week. She's got a lot. I don't know if she ever circled back to any of these questions.

Do you think you could—

you imagine if Kayleigh McEnany would have been just saying something like this. Play tape.

I can— I'll circle back if there's more I can share with you. I'll circle back with you if there's more to convey. I'll have to just circle back with you. We can circle back with him. I'm happy to circle back with you. I can circle back. I will have to circle back on that one. That's an excellent question. Oh, such an important question. We will circle back with you and we'll circle back with you. It's an interesting question, but we'll circle back. I'm happy to circle back, but I'll have to circle back with you on it. It's a good question. But we'll circle back with you on this today. We will certainly circle back with you more directly.

That's one week. She's got a lot of circling back to do.

Maybe we should circle back with her on whether or not she circled back on any of those questions.

I'd like to know if she actually circled back with this. And look, one of the reasons why— and, Isabel, you made this point in the break— there's just kind of this clumsiness to how to answer these questions is we need to ask themselves, ask Gensocchi and the White House, why are you there? What is your mandate? And actually, by pursuing the impeachment and conviction of Trump, they are pursuing the one mandate they told themselves, right?

Their entire objective on the campaign trail was to get rid of Donald Trump, whatever it took. And then once we get there, we'll kind of figure out what we want to do once we're in office. And you're seeing that so perfectly reflected in these daily press briefings, which kudos to them for having, by the way, starting on day one. It is great to see a public face of the administration, but her inability to answer any question virtually to a full extent just goes to show that they're still figuring out what they want to do.

And also, it's just— that's exactly right. And the mandate to govern is missing.

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What did I say? You said I call MSNBC names. I call them MSNBC Hee Haw because I think a lot of their hosts are pretty silly. But you think that's really cruel and mean and nasty? It's the same thing as calling somebody a fascist or Hitler or a dictator or a Nazi the way Donald Trump often is referred to, Mark? Is that the same?

Since his actions are that way, probably yes.

What has Donald Trump done that in your view makes him a Nazi or a fascist?

Mark, please.

Oh, okay.

Well, we don't need a lot. He's been around 4 years. Just give me one example of what makes you believe that Donald Trump is a fascist, or that when people say that, that's an accurate term.

Hey, I know you're gonna disagree, but when George Duke— I mean, uh, Duke David—

David Duke—

David Duke— it took him months.

You can't— you can't— you can't even— you can't even remember his name. That's, that's fascinating, Mark. The reason you can't remember his name is because the only time he's he's relevant is when somebody's running for election. Uh, no one's mentioned David Duke since Joe Biden got elected. The only time he's brought up is when a Republican's running for election, and then the Democrats compare him or her to David Duke. You can't even think of his name. I think it's pretty telling.

And what about the Proud Boys?

He's the lead. Do you know any Proud Boys, Mark? You ever seen one? You know who they are, where they are? Talk to me.

No, but I know what they—

I don't either. Have you seen a white— Mark, have you ever seen a white supremacist?

Well, fortunately I don't associate with those people.

Of course you don't. Of course you don't, Mark, because you're a decent guy and most people in America are decent and don't associate with people like that. That's why it's so ridiculous that Donald Trump is asked to denounce somebody that nobody associates with, Mark. It's foolish. That's why I'm angry at the left. Thanks for calling though, Mark. I appreciate it. I'm Larry Elder.

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I like having on Senator Paul and we can agree on things. And I want to thank him for offering his motion yesterday to dismiss the article of impeachment as improvidently delivered and unconstitutional. Is that a fair description, Senator Paul, of what you attempted to do yesterday?

Exactly, Hugh. The thing is, is that to impeach former presidents means that we could impeach any private citizen, really. And our Founding Fathers didn't want that. I mean, the British would do that to former officeholders. In Latin America, they still do that. Every president of Guatemala is elected in fanfare and then goes to jail when he leaves. You know, that's the kind of thing that happens in a, in a third world country. But we don't want that to happen in our country. And so I think it was important to put people on record. The other reason I did the vote was this basically essentially by the vote yesterday says that the impeachment trial is dead on arrival and that it's going to be a partisan thing where the Democrats can have fun with their, you know, Eric Swalwell and all his, you know, famous spite. He will be able— they'll be able to make political points. But basically the actual idea that this is a real impeachment is over now.

I want to read some headlines, Senator Paul, just so people understand. The Financial Times, nearly all Republicans back Trump in early impeachment test. United Kingdom's Telegraph, Democrats' hope of convicting Trump fades, only 5 Republican senators back holding a Senate trial.

The Times of Israel, Republicans Our number 2 of the Dennis Prager Show is underway. Thanks so much for being with us. Bob Franz sitting in for Dennis Prager, live in the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM1420 The Answer, which is my home base in Cleveland, Ohio. If you are so inclined to listen during the mornings from 9 to 11 in Cleveland, you can do so at whkradio.com. Always have to get the plug in for the local show. We're talking about the most important issue of our time, and normally that issue would be something in the realm of national security, it might be the fate of our economy, it might be, you know, wars, it may be the health crisis we're all dealing with. The most defining issue of our time right now, largely as a result of what happened on January 6th at Capitol Hill, is the censorship and the suppression of our free speech, our right to express ourselves, our right to express dissent with the prevailing party orthodoxy. And right now the party in control is the Democrat Party. Right now the party in control is the leftist party. And if you express opposition to them and their points of view, you are now being viewed as a danger, a threat to the republic. That's why they're going out of their way to call anybody who was a Trump supporter, someone who is in need of deprogramming, i.e., indoctrination into leftist thinking. And anybody who expresses a dissenting point of view is being silenced, censored, or as we saw down in Florida with the story I told you in the first hour, arrested now for using the internet to express speech with which the prevailing party disagrees. What are we going to do to preserve our freedom of speech? Well, that's why I want to bring Patrick Wood onto our program. Patrick Wood is the executive director and founder of Citizens for Free Speech, which you can find online at citizensforfreespeech.org. And he and his team, of which I am a small part, have made it their mission to provide everyone in America's communities with the skills and the tools that they need to fight and defend and preserve the First Amendment at the very basic most local level possible, knowing that that will be what spreads to protect us nationally. And Patrick Wood joins us now on AM— or excuse me, on The Dennis Prager Show. I often have him on my AM 1420 The Answer program in Cleveland. I went into autopilot there for a moment, Patrick, but welcome to The Dennis Prager Show. How are you, Patrick?

Hello, Bob, doing fine, thank you.

Okay, Patrick, there's so much ground to cover here, um, I, I hardly know where to start. So I think what I'm going to do is I'm gonna let you lead with a little bit of what you and I discussed. You wrote an article which was picked up by many conservative outlets, while those conservative outlets exist and are able to survive, which is not something that we can take for granted going forward. But you wrote an article about decoding the social media censorship that we see by the issues, not just who is being censored but what they are talking about. About being censored. Can you expand upon that, please?

Well, I certainly can. The knee-jerk reaction is to blame all censorship as being attacks on just, you know, conservatives in America. But if you examine the issues that are being censored in particular, you'll find a globalist type of a mindset here that is preventing people from talking about issues that are critical of globalization in general. And it just so happens that the conservative movement, the populist movement in America, are the ones that talk about these things most often. But there are some liberals that talk about some of these issues, and they get routinely censored as well. So it's not just a left-right issue here. It's a bigger picture. And, you know, I think that this is going to surface in the future, that, that these breakaway big tech companies that are doing this are not really— they don't really view themselves as part of American politics. They view themselves as part of the global, uh, elite now, and they're promoting a system of globalization that will essentially reduce America to ashes but, um, this is the— I believe this is the team that they are now playing. And if you just look at somebody like a Jeff Bezos or, uh, or a Google or whatever, these are global players. Bezos is the second richest man on the planet, and Google contains, uh, constrains, uh, something like 95% of all search engine traffic. These are global corporations now, and they have global interests in the The fact that America stands in the way of their global interest is not acceptable to them. That's why we're getting censored like crazy to, you know, to put us out of commission. And I do think Trump said something once upon a time that was absolutely right. He said, they're not after me, they're after you. And I think that's true.

Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. He did say that. He said— and the follow-up to that was equally important. He said, they're not after me. They're after you, I'm just standing in the way. And that is very true. He kind of became the champion for those who were not being heard because of some of this censorship. Now, I agree with and understand your point when you say they are willing to censor liberals as well as conservatives, but what I would interject is it appears as though only those liberals that leave the plantation. It's kind of like when we come to matters of race. You know, Black Lives Matter Inc., which of course is different than just saying the words Black Lives Matter, which of course they do because all lives matter, but Black Lives Matter Inc. specifically targets African Americans who don't spout left-wing talking points promoting their own victimization, promoting the idea of white supremacy, white privilege, and the lack of equity in American society. They only condemn those African Americans who don't preach those talking points. I would think this— I would say the same thing is here on a large scale from the leftist globalists that you're talking about in Big Tech. They will censor or condemn or suppress the speech of certain individuals who are leftist, but only if they start talking like something of a moderate. Only if they start talking about, well, maybe there is a question about this vaccine. Maybe there is a question about locking down an entire nation because of the very relative tiny, tiny fatality rate of those with vulnerable conditions in terms of, you know, the general population. So I think they're very targeted. It is targeting conservatism and the ideology, and they will condemn anybody who starts to embrace that or repeat that, even if they are, generally speaking, left of center.

Yes, and I will say generally the populist populist movement scares these technocrats half to death. This is their big threat right now, the populist movement. And there have been several populist movements around the world, by the way. There's been one in Germany, one in France, one in Great Britain. They've all been targeted by the very same people to squash them. And they just cannot tolerate the people getting in their way. That is public opinion and actually, you know, people making, you know, critical analysis of what the people are doing, they just can't take that. So the populist movement in general is just persona non grata with these people, and I think, you know, that we're getting hammered every which way you look.

Patrick Wood is our guest. He's executive director and founder of Citizens for Free Speech, which we're going to talk about again in a moment. But let's talk about free speech and how it is being assailed by those big tech technocrats you're talking about. The latest newest example of it. We've all talked about at length the people who were suspended, the people who are even including and especially the President of the United States suspended from using these platforms. But now it's more than just the big tech monitors deciding who can and can't be on. Now they are telling their lemmings essentially to, in an Orwellian fashion, stalk, monitor, watch, and report your fellow citizens for anything that rivals or that challenges their prevailing orthodoxy. In other words, if you don't like what somebody says because it's different than our leftist opinions, you report it and we will respond accordingly. They call it birdwatching. It sounds very 1984-ish to me, does it not to you?

It really does. And there have been— I have heard stories already of people actually doing this. Some friends of mine up in Washington State said that a neighbor reported them and complained to them about having somebody over to their house. And in light of the governor's, you know, kind of lockdown stuff, saying you shouldn't have any visitors and forget Thanksgiving and forget Christmas. And they had some friends over, just a couple, and there's one extra car in the driveway. Oh, that set this person off altogether, this neighbor who had formerly been a very friendly neighbor, by the way. But all of a sudden it's like, hey, what are you doing over there? You're having, you know, you're disobeying. You need to step in line or I'm going to call the police. I don't know if they did call the police, but that's a snitch.

It's—

we're turning into a nation of snitches at this point.

Yeah, that is exactly right. And that's, of course, in physical, you know, situations. You're talking about, but then there's the online version of it as well that Twitter has put into place, the Birdwatcher program, in which they want Twitter users to report on other Twitter users for daring to say something that is disagreeable to, you know, again, the leftist organizers and monitors on Twitter. We're talking with Patrick Wood, Executive Director of Citizens for Free Speech. We've got more ground to cover here, including arresting people for speech online. Line now. That happened earlier today, and he'll join us to talk about that next.

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You were the head of the USA Agency for Global Media, which is over the Voice of America, doing your job in the Trump administration. Voice of America put out a video that you just showed me asking people basically to vote for Joe Biden, asking Muslims to vote for Joe Biden. How is it possible that that happened during the Trump administration? Because it is the most partisan thing I've ever seen.

The Voice of America and the others are required by law to be objective, balanced, and comprehensive. So we were shocked to find the video you referred to that was produced by the Urdu service, which is supposed to target Pakistan, and it was in fact just a really repackaged Biden ad appealing to voters in Michigan, not so much Pakistan, to swing the vote for Biden. We in fact found out about it because of a whistleblower leak. And as soon as we found out about it, it had been up for an entire week, really. We asked the Urdu service to take it down, which they did. Then we did something sort of unique in VOA and USAGM history. We wanted to hold accountable those people responsible for breaking the law. And we had—

Hold accountable?

Yes, right. Shocking.

What do you think this is, 1975? Come on, man.

Well, that's right.

So we initiated it. We got the HR department and our internal internal people to do an investigation, and some of the people were disciplined. Some were fired, some had things written into their files, some were put on leave, all the way up. But oddly enough, you will not be surprised, Eric, they claim that was a violation of their rights.

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Farrakhan lives in a mansion. Sharpton, we know he made a boatload of money because he was $5 million light in taxes according to the New York Times at one point. For you to get $5 million light in taxes, you have to make a boatload of money. How is it that America is intrinsically, foundationally, endemically, structurally, institutionally racist, but these guys get a pass. But I'm the guy the man's going to come after when the man gets mad. Really? And again, according to Van Jones, this is all about a white lash because of a changing country, right? I mean, we talked about everything but race tonight. We've talked about income, we've talked about class, we've talked about region. We haven't talked about race. This was a whiplash. This was a whiplash against a changing country. It was a whiplash against a black president in part. And that's the part where the pain comes. And Donald Trump has a responsibility tonight to come out and reassure people that he is going to be the president of all the people who he insulted and offended. So it's a whiplash on the part of insecure, scared white people because of a changing America. America that demographically is changing. Well, America has changed demographically from 2016 to 2020. So wouldn't Donald Trump therefore get a higher percentage of this paranoid white male vote instead of a smaller percentage? He's down 4 percentage points among white males compared to 2016. Is this thing on? I thought it was a whiplash against white people afraid of the change in the country. The change— country is still changing.

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20 minutes after the hour, we continue on The Dennis Prager Show. Bob France sitting in for Dennis here in Cleveland, Ohio, the painfreereliefactor.com studios of AM1420 The Answer, my home base. And my guest continues to be Patrick Wood for one more segment. He is the executive director of a very important organization that is fighting to protect, uh, the First Amendment to the Constitution that is under attack like it has never been before. Patrick, you and I talk frequently about the attacks on the First Amendment by Big Tech and censoring our voices, even though that's not necessarily the violation of the First Amendment in that Congress has not established a law prohibiting the speech. Effectively, it eliminates communication from people based on their political persuasions. But now we're crossing into a very different realm. Now we're talking about people being arrested for free speech. And that's what happened when the FBI went into the home of a quote-unquote social media influencer whose name is Douglas Mackey, who in 2016 tweeted and retweeted memes encouraging people who are Democrats to vote for Hillary Clinton by text rather than by showing up at the polls. They have decided that he literally and effectively stole people's votes and violated their constitutional right to cast a vote. I think we're in uncharted waters here, Patrick. If people can be arrested literally for memes of parody and satire or attempts to make fun of people's intelligence level by saying, hey, you know, you can vote by text, hahaha. If they can arrest people for memes, Patrick, and for speech online like that, how dangerous is that for us.

Anybody could be arrested if that's the case, because people say all kinds of things on the internet. And, you know, any, any fool that would believe that you can vote by text probably deserves what they get. I, I just, I can't say it any other way. Nobody could be that stupid to believe somebody like Douglas McKay if he put this up. And for all I know, he was a, you know, He was a troll. He might even be, uh, you know, kind of a malicious type of a troll. But that the Department of Justice would go after this guy on this issue after passing on all of the other egregious things that have happened in Washington, D.C., is just beyond the pale. Absolutely beyond the pale. It also points out, I think, that there have been moles in the Department of Justice all throughout the Trump administration, just waiting to pounce when they had the opportunity.

That's an interesting observation, and you may be very right. I want to finish on this part though, or go a little deeper on this part. The reason— and tell me if you agree or disagree, Patrick Wood— the reason they arrested this Douglas Mackey is because 4,900 people were stupid enough to think that you could text a vote by text. According to the FBI, the tweet included the hashtags #GoHillary and #ImWithHer on or about and before Election Day 2016. At least 4,900 unique telephone numbers texted her name or some derivative of it to the, uh, shortcode text number, um, which was used in, quote, multiple deceptive campaign images tweeted by the defendant and his co-conspirators. Because, Pat, you just said, you know, if you're stupid enough to think you can vote by text, you deserve what you get. Who would be dumb enough? And the answer is these 49 people would be dumb enough. And that's why this guy got arrested, because people people actually took it seriously.

Well, it could, and that's gonna— that'll be interesting to see how it comes out in court because, you know, I get, uh, text polls all the time on my cell phone now, and, and you see them elsewhere and, and, you know, ads and stuff on, on media, newspapers, whatever, in your browser. And, you know, you're invited to go and take the poll, the straw poll, or whatever they want to call it, and, uh, you know, you answer questions You know, I'm voting for this person, I'm voting for that person. This happens all the time. And you know, whether people misinterpreted what the guy said or not, I really don't know. But for the, for the, for the Department of Justice and, and the FBI to spend any money on this kind of nonsense, it's just absolutely, uh, well, it's just over the top. It's hard to get your head wrapped around why they would do this. There are so many other legitimate things that should be prosecuted and should be investigated, those things have been completely dropped, ignored, and just, you know, basically dropped into the abyss. And stuff like this comes out. This is a precedent-setting— like you said, this is a precedent-setting incident that we simply cannot let stand. I don't know what we can do about it exactly, but we simply cannot let it stand.

Yeah, well, you know, It's one thing for us to rail against, you know, the big tech companies for all of their suppression of speech. It's another thing altogether now when, as you say, the DOJ is arresting people and potentially— that he did not like. And again, I think if nobody had actually called the number, it's just another satire, you know, post in an election cycle, which there are billions of, I would dare say, because there are millions of users and so many of them posting memes and satire and those kinds of things. But if nobody would have called, it just would have been another one and it would have been no big deal. But because some people were dumb and called it, suddenly it's you deprived them of their right to vote, which is unbelievable. Patrick, you are the executive founder of Citizens for Free Speech. What is it that they did not like? And again, I think if nobody had actually called the number, it's just another satire, you know, post in an election cycle, which there are be banned from social media sites, and now to not be arrested for typing something that somebody else thinks was, uh, so egregious that you, uh, deserve to lose your freedom.

Well, exactly right. And you know, there's been the government now, the current government, uh, that's being formed around Biden right now, uh, all kinds of strange things like this are coming out. The former CIA director, everybody knows this guy, John Brennan, He gave a rant the other day that talks— railed against the unholy alliance, he called it, including religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, and even libertarians, he says. Libertarians? Really? Libertarians are pacifists, for Pete's sake. They are anti-war, anti-violence, all the way up and down the line, but they are now turning the focus of government internally in America to, uh, to call us the insurgency movement.

And it's—

they're calling for, uh, you know, re-education, reprogramming, uh, censorship, arrest, you name it. And all of these different groups now internally that have been giving them fits are now targets of government, direct government action. This, and I believe this is what happened in Florida, was part of it.

I do too. I do too, 1,000%. So, so going back to CFFS, Patrick, you know, I tell people all the time on my local program, and I'll tell everybody now on Dennis's show, to become a member at citizensforfreespeech.org. What do they do when they become a member? I've got less than a minute, so make that brief.

Well, if they choose to become a volunteer as well as a member, they'll be plugged into our education program that we have for, you know, how to communicate, how to work locally in your own local community to throw up resistance against this kind of stuff. Otherwise, you can get on the mailing list, just stand with us. We need every single American to jump on this bandwagon. I'll tell you, if we lose the First Amendment, we're done in America. There won't be any more talking. The talking will will be over and the crying will begin. So we have a short window of time to get after this and put a stop to it.

1,000% agree. Patrick Wood, Executive Director of Citizens for Free Speech. Again, it's online at citizensforfreespeech.org. First become a member, then become a volunteer and learn how to help stop this in your own local communities. And we'll be right back.

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As this avowed Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise, nearly killing him, and shot one of our coaches and two or three of our staff, he screamed, this is for healthcare. Ask me, or anyone if that's incitement.

That man's name was James Hodgkinson, who tried to murder Rand Paul, Steve Scalise, and everybody on that baseball diamond. That was Senator Paul reacting to the attempt to try in the Senate Donald Trump after he left office. We are back with Dinesh D'Souza. This is Rebuilding the Right. Dinesh, you mentioned this maybe 20 minutes ago, but let's reiterate, let's be clear about it. Of the two political parties in America today, one of them has normalized violence in the last four years, and it isn't the GOP, is it?

That's absolutely true. Even if you look at Trump's speech, played speech, we gotta rise up, we gotta fight. This is political standard rhetoric. This is not incitement. Now, I hear that the House managers are trying to use the reaction of people to the speech to sort of almost imply what was in the speech. But let's say I were to give a speech and I were to say, you don't have enough money, you need to get more, you need to build up your wealth, and someone goes out and robs a bank. Now, I didn't incite them. I didn't tell them to rob a bank. They might have interpreted my words that way, but that's not a normal interpretation. Interpretation of what I said. So the bottom line of it is there's been no incitement from Trump. But then you compare that to, you know, Kamala Harris, where she's talking about the rioters and she basically goes, you know what, they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. They're going to continue after the election. And what she means is they're going to continue looting and burning and terrorizing people. And she goes, and they shouldn't stop. And that's incitement right there if you're looking for it.

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Yesterday's vote by 45 Republicans to assert that an impeachment trial of a private citizen named Donald Trump is unconstitutional is a really big deal. I know the media doesn't really want to touch it. Maybe they're just burned out on it, I don't know. But you understand that if there is an impeachment trial, this surely means he's going to be acquitted. If he's acquitted, he is going to claim complete and total vindication. If he's acquitted, he's going to run again. And he is not going anywhere. The Trump, the MAGA movement just got a huge, huge shot in the arm. Senator Rand Paul yesterday on the floor of the Senate convincing all Republican senators except the handful of never-Trumper malcontents. It's the same bunch, uh, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Sasse, Lisa Murkowski, Toomey. It's the same ones that all it's always been. But 45 Republicans, including Mitch McConnell, agreed with Senator Rand Paul.

Unity is the opposite of this travesty we are about to witness. If we are about to try to impeach a president, where is the Chief Justice? If the accused is no longer president, where is the constitutional power to impeach him. Private citizens don't get impeached. Impeachment is for removal from office, and the accused here has already left office. Hyper-partisan Democrats are about to drag our great country down into the gutter of rancor and vitriol, the likes of which has never been seen in our nation.

Keep up. You know, we've been talking so much today on the program, Bob Friend sitting in for Dennis Prager, about free speech and about the suspension of free speech, the attack on free speech, now the arresting for free speech. It's almost like there really are no safe spaces for us to express ourselves without being attacked in some way. And that's my way of bringing us into No Safe Spaces. Portions of this program are brought to you by the film No Safe Spaces. 2021 is already off to a disturbing start for conservatives. We've seen Twitter unilaterally shutting down President Trump's account, conservative platform Parler booted off of the App Store by Apple, and Big Tech muzzling free speech at a speed none of us could have predicted. Nobody except biologists and evolutionary theorists. You need to see the full movie yourself. No Safe Spaces. Watch it today for a preview of the politically correct dangers facing America as the Biden-Harris era begins. Week. Just go to SalemNow.com and download your copy of No Safe Spaces or order the DVD. It's fast, easy to do, and you and your family need to see this important film now before any more of our freedoms are muzzled. Go to SalemNow.com and get your copy of No Safe Spaces. Let's get a call or two in here as we continue on the Dennis Prager program. And this is going to be Matthew in Michigan. You're on, Dennis Prager. And let's see if we can bring that up. There he is. Matthew, go right ahead, sir. Matthew, are you there?

Okay, good.

Yeah, I'm here.

I want to mention the tactics of the left is they put everybody in one basket, then they create power. Like, all the blacks are supposed to vote Democratic. They don't, they shame them, and they create power. They've done the same thing with Trump supporters. Just because a couple of lunatics went in there doesn't brand everybody as a lunatic that supports Trump. We all know this, but they use power to create more, more power. It's kind of like a totalitarian regime. They grow power.

They do. It is absolutely a totalitarian regime. That's 1,000% right, Matthew. What they are doing— and they use shame as well. They will shame and they will scare people into saying— you know, here's the thing. Joe Biden called for in his inaugural address, and it's one of the biggest comedies that I've ever heard, called for unity. Let's bring everybody together. There's no red states, he said. There's no blue states. There's only the United States. And what he has done for the last 7 days is used shame and intimidation to do exactly the opposite, to make 75 million Trump voters feel like they are second-class citizens. Worse, to make them feel like they're terrorists, to make, make them feel like they're white supremacists because they supported Donald Trump they're racists because they supported the same guy who was speaking at a time when people broke into the Capitol. We are all guilty of breaking into the Capitol. We are all guilty of being insurrectionists, seditionists, traitors. That's not exactly a way to bring people together in, uh, you know, in, uh, unity, in a unified fashion, because he has to the left The only unity is unity of thought, and that means when you start thinking like we do, we will be unified with you. We will come together with you. If you continue to think opposite of we do, we will not even begin to think about meeting you in the middle. Unity can only happen in a functioning society Unity of— when it comes to political ideology can only happen when both sides agree to give a little bit, when both sides agree to either give or to say, well, I'm not going to give, but I respect your point of view. If the conservative nation says, I respect your point of view, but we're going to continue to advocate for our policies but not have you arrested for believing in yours, there can be unity. Only if the Democrats say, we believe in our point of view and we're gonna let you believe in your point of view without having you arrested or sanctioned or fired or not promoted or whatever other punishments they have in store for people with conservative thought. If they did that, we could all come together, but we can't because they don't. They will only quote unquote unify with you when you accede to their point of view until you say, We were wrong, you are right, we will be like you. We will deny the existence of women. We will just agree with you that a woman is whatever somebody feels like being. Forget about biology and XX versus XY chromosomes. Forget about the science of it behind it. We'll agree with you. You can be whatever you want to be just by declaration. We'll believe that babies aren't really babies until they're, I don't know, maybe 2 or 3. That they can be just clumps of cells all the way up until the moment of birth, and even if they happen to be born alive afterwards, we can let them die too. Still not a baby. We'll agree with you. That's when the left will say, okay, we're unified now, when we give up on all of our core beliefs. And that's the difference between, in my estimation, conservatives and Americans and leftists who are un-American. We will let them have their point of view without trying to arrest them for it. They refuse to return that kindness. And we'll be right back.

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I like having on Senator Paul and we can agree on things and I want to thank him for offering his his motion yesterday to dismiss the article of impeachment as improvidently delivered and unconstitutional. Is that a fair description, Senator Paul, of what you attempted to do yesterday?

Exactly, Hugh. The thing is, is that to impeach former presidents means that we could impeach any private citizen, really. And our founding fathers didn't want that. I mean, the British would do that to former officeholders. In Latin America, they still do that. Every president of Guatemala is elected in fanfare and then goes to jail when he leaves. You know, that's the kind of thing that happens in a, in a third world country, but we don't want that to happen in our country. And so I think it was important to put people on record. The other reason I did the vote was this basically essentially by the vote yesterday says that the impeachment trial is dead on arrival, and that it's going to be a partisan thing where the Democrats can have fun with their, you know, Eric Swalwell and all his, you know, famous spied on He will be able— they'll be able to make political points, but basically the actual idea that this is a real impeachment is over now.

I want to read some headlines, Senator Paul, just so people understand. The Financial Times: Nearly all Republicans back Trump in early impeachment test. United Kingdom's Telegraph: Democrats' hope of convicting Trump fades as only 5 Republican senators back holding a Senate trial. The Times of Israel: Republican senators Mostly vote against holding Trump impeachment trial. The Wall Street Journal: Most Republican senators reject constitutionality of Trump impeachment. It goes on and on. Does everyone generally agree that this thing is a sham now?

I think so.

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His name is Michael Pack. He's been on this program before, uh, because he was behind what can only be described as a spectacular documentary film about Clarence Thomas. Um, it was on PBS, which is as good as the film. In other words, as good as the film is, the fact that it was on PBS is perhaps frankly better than the film. It's outstanding that it was able to be aired on PBS. Michael Pack, welcome.

Thank you very much, Eric. And let me remind your viewers and listeners, they can still see it. It's streaming. It's on Amazon and iTunes and many other platforms. And it is a great film. I agree with you, Eric.

Would you drop the title for us, please?

It's called Created Equal: Clarence Thomas in His Own Words.

The fact, Michael, that you were able to get it on PBS That's really the big news, because a lot of great stuff out there that doesn't find mainstream distribution. The fact that PBS viewers got to see the other side of the story, so to speak, was astounding. What's the secret there?

Well, that's true. That was always very important to us, not just to preach to the choir. And, well, I have been making documentaries for PBS for, for over 30 years, and there have been more than 15 that have been aired nationally. And I have to say, in defense of PBS, that they've always been enthusiastic about this film. It's Justice Thomas telling a story directly to camera based on 30 hours of interview time with him. Unprecedented. It was a coup at every level for PBS. I hope that they would still air it now, now that we've entered an even more polarizing time. I hope so, but I'm not so sure.

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Here's a question that she should have circled back on. Let's go to Cut 63.

Um, is the White House concerned about the stock market activity we're seeing around GameStop?

17 minutes before the top of the hour, the Dennis Prager Show continues. Bob France sitting in for Dennis in the relief Factor.com studios here in Cleveland, Ohio. We're going to go right back to your phone calls, but just, just real quick, you know, we were talking with the last caller about, you know, unity and, you know, what the Democrats are trying to do to us. Here's an example. I talked to Steve Moore this morning. Steve Moore is the former economic advisor to President Trump. He's now a senior fellow with the Heritage Foundation as well. And we were talking about, we know that all presidents who come in replacing, you know, the opposite party, you know, Donald Trump from Barack Obama, Barack Obama from George Bush. You know, they always come in and say, you know, there are certain things that I'm going to undo that the last administration was doing wrong. And that happens. That's understandable. But usually they're matters of principle rather than policies of importance to the nation as it is running. What I mean to say by that is when Joe Biden came in a week ago and started writing the first of his 37 executive orders, and there are more today that are being signed as we speak, 37 in, in the first 7 days, you knew that was going to happen. Something like rejoining the Paris Climate Accords, which is ridiculous and stupid, but he should— he believes we shouldn't have gotten out, so he's going to rejoin that.

Okay.

Rejoining the World Health Organization because he doesn't believe Trump should have disbanded from that or have pulled away from that. Okay, I understand. It's one thing to do those things because it's ideologically different than your predecessor and you've got to keep your base happy. It's another thing to undo that which is working, and that includes the economic policies that Donald Trump came in and put in place that led to an economic boom. And record low unemployment for Americans, all Americans, at least in the last 50 years, and all Americans in the history of history when it comes to African Americans and Latino Americans and women. Those things are just undisputed. The Trump policies worked, and the first thing that Joe Biden does when he comes in is undo those policies which are having a direct impact on American lives. The climate accord thing isn't going to impact American lives right away. You know, the WHO, a number of those things are not going to— they're largely ceremonial, but they do have deeper impacts long-term, but not affecting you right now. Right now, people are losing their jobs because of decisions that he has made. Right now, 11,000 people have lost their jobs from working on the Keystone Pipeline. 5,000 are going to lose their jobs because we're no longer building the southern border wall, you know, another $30,000 here, $70,000 there, because we're not going to be allowed to, uh, explore, drill, uh, and explore on federal lands and waters for natural gas or oil. There are things that are just— you got to leave alone because they worked. And that's what Steve Moore said to me a little bit earlier this morning on my local show in Cleveland.

I mean, I think that 2 or 3 things that Trump did that were the most effective in terms of causing the booming economy we saw was number one, the deregulation. Number two, the tax rate reductions on American businesses. And number three was the drive to make America energy independent. We did all three of those things. And isn't it interesting, Biden is reversing every single one of those three policies.

And, you know, we, we twisted the dials towards growth, and what Biden is doing is twisting them back in the opposite direction.

And usually when that happens, you get the results.

All three of those things, he's exactly right. Deregulation, allowing businesses to grow and expand without government interference, led to record hiring and record, uh, business expansion and wage growth. Lower taxes, lowering taxes on corporations, huge impact again on the ability of corporations to hire more people and expand their operations, and mom-and-pop shops too. And then becoming energy independent. Becoming a net exporter of energy rather than a net importer for the first time in history. Those were extraordinarily successful things. Why turn those back? That's the other question I asked him. Why did they do that?

In the Biden administration, there is very severe Trump Derangement Syndrome. So even when Trump did things, you know, and look, not everything that Trump did was great. You know, he made some mistakes.

Too.

But the fundamental thing is that they are so deranged by their hatred of Trump that anything that he did, they want to reverse, even as you said, even if it works for policy.

Right, right. Trump Derangement Syndrome on display in the Biden White House. Bob is in Springfield, Illinois. Hi, Bob, you're on the Dennis Prager Show with Bob France. Go right ahead.

Well, hi, I really appreciate you taking my call.

I disagree with you about pretty much everything, but I really, really appreciate the chance to to talk to you.

Um, no problem.

I want— I'm hoping to ask you two questions, and it's sort of about your previous subject, so I hope I'm not taking you too much away from you.

No, no, it's perfectly fine. Perfectly fine. Go ahead.

All right, I appreciate that. My first question is this. It's pretty simple. Um, social media companies literally blocked over a million— I think Twitter blocked 1.2 million accounts associated promoting Islamic terrorism, promoting ideas that were connected to radicalizing people into undertaking violent jihad. Why, if social media companies are right to block accounts that are deemed associated with promoting Islamic terrorism, why shouldn't they also take steps to block accounts that are connected to domestic terrorism like what happened at the Capitol Capitol building?

I'm going to answer that question after I hear your second one. What's the other one?

Well, my— well, okay, my second, my second point is this. It's a little more nuanced. I, I understand that you don't like the idea that all Trump supporters get lumped in with the people who attacked the Capitol, but— and it is certainly the case that not everybody who who believes the election was stolen from Donald Trump would do, would go and attack the Capitol to try to, you know, lynch Mike Pence to try to reverse the outcome of the Electoral College. Right. Not everybody who believes the election was stolen would do that. But everyone who did do that believed the election was stolen. And when I listen to you, and I don't say this to be disrespectful to you at all, sir, but it's hard for me to take you seriously on this subject because You and Dennis Prager and everybody else on the radio station I'm listening to you on right now helped convince people that the election was stolen, and doing that resulted in what happened at the Capitol. So I don't think you are really an honest broker when it comes to criticizing social media companies for wanting to tamp down the amplification of the lie that led to the attack on the Capitol. I just don't take you very seriously. Seriously, on that subject.

Okay, here's what I'm going to ask you to do, Bob. I'm going to ask you to hang up, and in fact, I'm going to have to hang up on you because I got a hard break here. And on the other side, I'm going to answer both of those questions in depth. And if, uh, it's still not clear after that, I don't think there's ever going to be a way that we come to an agreement. But keep listening, I'll have that for you next.

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Tonight on Sean Hannity's show, Senator Lindsey Graham asserted that this is all driven by fear on the part of the Democrats. I agree, but I would have to add a footnote to what Senator Graham said last night to Sean on Fox News.

Why are they doing this? They're afraid. I think Democratic senators are afraid of the left wing of their party. That if they don't give some credibility to this trial that started in the House, they're in trouble. And Joe Biden's been a huge disappointment thus far, not only on policy, but on the idea that I'm going to bring the country together. How easy would it be, Sean, for Joe Biden to say it is bad to impeach a president after they leave office? Uh, enough already with Donald Trump. Let's look forward. So it tells you It says a lot about Biden's ability and desire to bring us together by the fact that he's sitting on the sidelines and his only comment has been, I don't think they have the votes.

I don't disagree with that, but I would add one footnote. Again, I would add this: there's fear, all right? They don't know what to do with Donald Trump and tens of millions of supporters who are not going anywhere. They want us to go away. They want to wish us away. They want to will us away. They want to censor us away. They want to shut us down.

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Jen Psaki is having a tough week, but we will circle back. Let's play the montage of Jen Psaki just in the last week. She's got a lot. I don't know if she ever circled back to any of these questions.

Do you—

could you imagine if Kayleigh McEnany would have been just saying something like this? Play tape.

I can— I'll circle back if there's more I can share with you. I'll circle back with you if there's more to convey. I'll have to just circle back with you. We can circle back with— I'm happy to circle back with you. I can circle back. I will have to circle back on that one. That's an excellent question. Oh, such an important question. We will circle back with you and we'll circle back with you. It's an interesting question, but we'll circle back. I'm happy to circle back, but I'll have to circle back with you on it. It's a good question, but we'll circle back with you on this today. We will certainly circle back with you more directly.

That's one week. She's got a lot of circling back to do.

Maybe we should circle back with her on whether or not she circled back on any of those questions.

I'd like to know if she actually circled back with this. And look, One of the reasons why— and Isabel, you made this point in the break— there's just kind of this clumsiness to how to answer these questions is we need to ask themselves, ask Jen Psaki and the White House, why are you there? What is your mandate? And actually, by pursuing the impeachment and conviction of Trump, they are pursuing the one mandate they told themselves, right?

Their entire objective on the campaign trail was to get rid of Donald Trump, whatever it took. And then once we get there, we'll kind of figure out what we we want to do once we're in office. And you're seeing that so perfectly reflected.

6 minutes before the top of the hour. Thanks so much for being with us on The Dennis Prager Show. Bob Franz sitting in. I'm not going to take any calls this segment because it's a short segment. It's about a 4-minute segment. And I want to respond to the previous caller as I promised that I would. He asked 2 questions. The first one, he said, if Twitter is able to block the accounts of individuals associated with radical Islamic terrorism, Why shouldn't they be able to block the accounts of domestic terrorists? And it's a fair question to an extent, because number one, Twitter doesn't block all of the accounts of radical Islamic terrorists, including the Ayatollah Khomeini, which still has an account from Iran, the nation's number one— or excuse me, the world's number one exporter of terror around the world. The difference here is in what is the definition of domestic terrorist, and it ties directly to what the last caller talked about. Dennis Prager talked about when he said, you know, I know you Trump supporters don't like to be associated and lumped in with those who were rioting at the Capitol. And that is exactly the point. What Twitter and Facebook have begun to do is essentially say, if you support Trump and if you supported the challenge of the election, the legal challenge, not the riot challenge at the Capitol, but if you supported the legal challenge, you are a potential domestic terrorist.

Why?

Well, because that makes you far right. Only far right cretins and far right terrorists think that the election was stolen, and as such, we're going to block your account. They're literally doing that to people who— the Capitol or the speech on the Mall by President Trump. Now, if you say, well, if you attended the speech, that makes you one of the terrorists— how?

Why?

There were over 300,000 people in attendance at that speech. A couple hundred, maybe a few hundred, went inside the Capitol. The very nature of the question is absurd because the vast majority of the people there were peaceful patriots who did challenge the election, who disagreed with it, and who heard President Trump state very clearly and emphatically that we are going to go down to the Capitol and, quote, cheer on cheer on our brave senators who are challenging the certification of this election, which is wrong because of the numerous examples of fraud that have been pointed out in numerous states. We're going to cheer them on, and we're going to do so peacefully and patriotically. You do remember this, right? We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave Senators and congressmen and women, I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. That's what the president said, and that's what, well, 99.55%— and I'm just throwing that up there because of 300,000-plus people— to talk, to look at the couple of hundred that went inside the Capitol. That's what it was. That's exactly what they did. And yet they would be branded as domestic terrorists by certain standards on Twitter. And that's why you cannot just block them like as if they were Islamic terrorists. As to the second issue, why not condemn the lie that the election was stolen, since that's why the riot happened? Well, there's a simple reason: it's not a lie. And I'll follow up on that in the next segment too, right here on The Dennis Prager Show.

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His name is Michael Pak. He's been on this program before, uh, because he was behind what can only be described as a spectacular documentary film about Clarence Thomas. Um, It was on PBS, which is as good as the film. In other words, as good as the film is, the fact that it was on PBS is perhaps, frankly, better than the film. It's outstanding that it was able to be aired on PBS. Michael Pack, welcome.

Thank you very much, Eric. And let me remind your viewers and listeners, they can still see it. It's streaming. It's on Amazon and iTunes and many other platforms. And it is a great film. I agree with you, Eric.

Would you drop the title for us, please?

It's called Created Equal: Clarence Thomas in His Own Words.

The fact, Michael, that you were able to get it on PBS, that's really the big news, because a lot of great stuff out there that doesn't find mainstream distribution. The fact that PBS viewers got to see the other side of the story, so to speak, was astounding. What's the secret there?

Well, that's true. That was always very important to us, not just to preach to the choir, And, well, I have been making documentaries for PBS for over 30 years. And there have been more than 15 that have been aired nationally. And I have to say, in defense of PBS, that they have always been enthusiastic about this film. It's Justice Thomas telling his story directly to camera based on 30 hours of interview time with him. Unprecedented. It was a coup at every level for PBS. I hope that they would still air it now, now that we've entered an even more polarizing time. I hope so. But I'm not so sure.

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Here's a question that she should have circled back on. Let's go to Cut 63.

Is the White House concerned about the stock market activity we're seeing around GameStop? Stock.

And have there been any conversations with the SEC about how to proceed?

Well, I'm also happy to repeat that we have the first female Treasury Secretary and a team that's surrounding her, and often questions about market we'll send to them. But our team is— of course, our economic team, including Secretary Yellen and others, are monitoring the situation. It's a good reminder, though, that the stock market isn't the only measure of the health of our economy, of our Doesn't reflect how working and middle-class families are doing.

Okay, so I'm going to say something, and I don't want this to be misunderstood, but Isabel can help clarify it for me. It's completely and totally irrelevant to the question whether or not Janet Yellen is a woman. And by the way, I thought you don't believe in women or men, right?

I find it so ironic. The left is so excited. We have our first female vice president, which is awesome to see as a woman in politics. That's a an incredible accomplishment. But again, you don't recognize that there even are two genders or that gender is anything but a social construct. So I fail to see how that's relevant from their political side of things. But, you know, we spent the first hour going into a deep dive on insider trading, on the situation with GameStop. The public information is available. It's out there. So I find it interesting that the comms team this morning didn't brief the White House press secretary. But no fear, everyone, we have our first female Treasury Secretary. Nobody freak out.

Is the person qualified? I couldn't care less. What does that have to do with anything? What that is is a cudgel.

Yes.

What that is is Jen not knowing how to answer a question. Say, hey, take it easy. You know, we have a woman in that position. That's what that is. Like, stop asking me tough questions.

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As this avowed Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise, nearly killing him, and shot one of our coaches and two or three of our staff, he screamed, "This is for healthcare." Ask me or anyone if that's incitement.

That man's name was James Hodgkinson, who tried to murder Rand Paul, Steve Scalise, and everybody on that baseball diamond. That was Senator Paul reacting to the attempt to try in the Senate Donald Trump after he left office. We are back with Dinesh D'Souza. This is Rebuilding the Right. Dinesh, you mentioned this maybe 20 minutes ago, but let's reiterate, let's be clear about it. Of the two political parties in America today, one of them has normalized violence in the last four years, and it isn't the GOP, is it?

That's absolutely true. Even if you look at Trump's speech, played speech, we got to rise up, we got to fight. This is political standard rhetoric. This is not incitement. Now, I hear that the House managers are trying to use the reaction of people to the speech to sort of almost imply what was in a speech, but let's say I were to give a speech and I were to say, you don't have enough money, you need to get more, you need to build up your wealth, and someone goes out and robs a bank. Now, I didn't incite them. I didn't tell them to rob a bank. They might have interpreted my words that way, but that's not a normal interpretation of what I said. So the bottom line of it is there's been no incitement from Trump. But then you compare that to, you know, Kamala Harris, which she's talking about the rioters And she basically goes, you know what, they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. They're going to continue after the election. And what she means is they're going to continue looting and burning and terrorizing people. And she goes, and they shouldn't stop. And that's incitement right there if you're looking for it.

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Yesterday's vote by 45 Republicans to assert that an impeachment trial of a private citizen named Donald Trump is unconstitutional is a really big deal. I know the media doesn't really want to touch it. Maybe they're just burned out on it, I don't know. But you understand that if there is an impeachment trial This surely means he's going to be acquitted. If he's acquitted, he is going to claim complete and total vindication. If he's acquitted, he's going to run again, and he is, is not going anywhere. The Trump, the MAGA movement just got a huge, huge shot in the arm. Senator Rand Paul yesterday on the floor of the Senate convincing all Republican senators except the handful of never-Trumper malcontents.

It's the same Hour number 3 underway already. That is hard to believe. Uh, it's been a very, very fast 2 hours that we have had thus far on The Dennis Prager Show. As you can tell, my voice is not that of the brilliant Dennis Prager. My name is Bob Franz. If you are just turning us on, I am live in Cleveland, Ohio. My home base is AM 1420 The Answer, and I am I'm in their studios right now, thereliefactor.com studios, while we're at it. And I welcome you to join us. We are guest-free in the third hour of the program. We had a great conversation with our guest last hour, Patrick Wood, the executive director of Citizens for Free Speech. Um, and I'm going to encourage you once again, I am also the national communications director for that organization. It's a nonprofit that is dedicated to preserving and protecting the First Amendment, and that is under attack right now more so than ever before. More— I mean, when I joined this organization about a year ago. In fact, it was last, last January. I don't know what the exact date is, but anniversary must be coming up here. Um, we knew there were problems, you know. I had been being shadow banned and censored and losing followers on Twitter and all kinds of other things, had my stuff blocked on Facebook and everything else. I knew it was a problem, but nowhere near what it is today. Nowhere near. So I encourage you now more than ever, become a member of Citizens for Free Speech. And if you are so inclined, register as a volunteer so that you can participate in our monthly webinars, which instruct us how to be leaders in our community, to go about literally with actionable items and not just let's sit around and vent together. Actionable items on how we can make a difference in our local communities in protecting our right to disagree. And our right to be heard with our dissenting opinions. It's so important. And I'm going to tell you again, go to the website citizensforfreespeech.org. Citizens for freespeech.org. Spell it out just like that and register as a member and then as a volunteer. And I can promise you this, your information will never be shared nor sold to anyone. We are believers in your privacy and your right to free speech. So please do not hesitate to join us there and be a part of this growing movement to protect our First Amendment. Now, before I go back to the phones and get into some other issues, I'm gonna finish the response to the caller, last caller I had prior to the last segment, and he said, you know, I question you as a— I can't remember his exact wording, but like a fair arbiter of the situation when I talk about not wanting to be lumped in with the terrorists that went into the Capitol. I can't trust you as an honest broker. Thank you, thank you, Sean. He said, I can't trust you as an honest broker of the situation because, you know, because, you know, you have not condemned the lie that sent all of those people to the Capitol in the first place. And the reason I didn't condemn the lie about the election being stolen is because it is not a lie. And the senators on the floor of the Senate at that joint session that day to certify the election They weren't lying either. What they did was call for a 10-day commission to be established, a bipartisan committee of House and Senate members, of Republicans and Democrats, to look into some of the very serious unanswered questions from some of the most important battleground states in that election. That's all they said is, let's look at this, an audit of these, these situations, these very specific things in certain places. Is not out of line. It's not unconstitutional, and in fact, it would restore faith in democracy. If this bipartisan commission did a full investigation and came up and said, no, everything's good, then you'd have those 300,000 people out there who wouldn't be saying, well, I guess, I guess maybe, maybe, you know, they'd be saying, I guess maybe things were on the up and up. I mean, we had our own Republican representatives in there looking at it in a joint effort with the Democrats, and these are the answers to the many questions we had. That's what they wanted. That's all President Trump wanted. That's what he said or meant when he told the, um, the crowd there listening to him speak, when he said, let's go down and cheer on our brave senators who are trying to make that happen, just to get to the bottom of it, not to overturn the election results, not to tear down the building. Let's go down there peacefully and patriotically to cheer on those brave senators who are taking this very normal and legal constitutional step to make sure that the election is certified. Remember, Democrats did the same thing. They challenged the certification of the election. They did it in 2001 when George Bush was elected in November of 2000. They did it again in 2005 when George Bush was reelected in November of 2004. And they did it 4 years ago when President Bush— or President Trump beat Hillary Clinton, and they didn't believe it and said it was because of Republican— or Republican, uh, this is how they see it, but they said it was because of Russian disinformation and meddling, and so they didn't want to certify the election either. None of that points to domestic terrorism. And as to the quote-unquote lie 'Well, it was presented over 70 times in courtrooms, and, and 70 times it was rejected.' No, no, no, it wasn't. Those arguments were unable to be presented in courts of law because of standing. In 99% of the cases, judges didn't want to hear the evidence, so it was never presented. And that's why the call was for this bipartisan committee to go and look at the evidence. Thousands of sworn affidavits from citizens who saw election integrity violated. Postal workers who saw postmarks being backdated or non-postmarked ballots being postmarked with dates before the election on November 3rd. That's just some of the examples. Election workers who saw ballots being double-counted. Election workers who saw ballots being discarded. Election workers signing sworn affidavits. Do you know what that means? Affidavits sworn under oath are the same thing as taking an oath and lying. Actually, you know, you're sworn to tell the truth in a court of law, and if you don't, you are guilty of perjury. These people were willing to go to jail if they had perjured themselves. Thousands of affidavits ignored. There are countless number of things that were on video that just are unexplained, unanswered. Boxes being pulled out, boxes of ballots being pulled out from underneath a dark table after all of the election workers were sent home, the election counters, ballot counters were sent home for the night. Strangely, at 10:30 at night. That's 10:30, the world's waiting to find out who the president is, but, oh, you guys, I think we should call it a night. Let's just come back in the morning and finish this. Wait, what? And then we come back in the morning and suddenly the totals were off. 30,000 more votes for Joe Biden, 15,000 fewer votes for Donald Trump. I don't know how that happened. We just all went home, we came back, and the totals are what the totals are. So the question of whether or not patriots can ask, was this election on the up and up, is not something that makes them terrorists. You know, it's not something that makes them insurrectionists. It makes them patriots because they simply want to know that democracy works, that all legal votes were counted and that all illegal votes were not. And illegal votes, yes, believe it or not, are votes that came in after the Election Day deadline. Multiple states changed the rules of postmarking and accepting ballots at the request only of their secretaries of state and not through their state legislatures, which were violations of state constitutions. Those things happened. To my caller who didn't see me as an honest broker of the situation, those things really happened. They're not in question. Secretaries of state changed the rules on, on, on what votes to accept, how late to accept them, what to do with unmarked ballots and so forth, when that type of action is mandatory constitutionally and legally to be done only by the state legislatures. They change the rules unilaterally. Those raise questions, and those are the reasons why people gathered by the thousands, hundreds of thousands quite frankly, in Washington, D.C. too, as President Trump encouraged them, peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard, cheer on those brave senators. He ordered no one to attack a building. He incited no insurrection. And as long as we're on the subject, I'm just going to hit this. I wasn't going to, but since we're talking about being honest brokers of the situation, yesterday, um, the investigation into the January 6th riot at the Capitol focused on individuals in a far-right group, as it's called, called the Oath Keepers. I don't know too much about the Oath Keepers, to be honest with you, but what I do know is that the Department of Justice is charging the Oath Keepers with conspiracy to commit that riot in the weeks leading up to it. So if they were conspiring to lead the charge on the riot, how could Donald Trump have incited said riot during the hour before the actual— or the hour that it was actually happening? If there was a conspiracy to do it before Trump ever spoke, how is it on Trump? We'll be right back.

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Yesterday's vote by 45 Republicans to assert that an impeachment trial of a private citizen named Donald Trump is unconstitutional is a really big deal. I know the media doesn't really want to touch it. Maybe they're just burned out on it. I don't know. But you understand that if there is an impeachment trial, this surely means he's going to be acquitted. If he's acquitted, he is going to claim complete and total vindication. If he's acquitted, he's going to run again, and he is, is not going anywhere. The Trump, the MAGA movement just got a huge, huge shot in the arm. Senator Rand Paul yesterday on the floor of the Senate convincing all Republican senators except the handful of never-Trumper malcontents. It's the same bunch, uh, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Sasse, Lisa Murkowski, Toomey. It's the same ones that all it's always been, but 45 Republicans including Mitch McConnell agreed with Senator Rand Paul.

Unity is the opposite of this travesty we are about to witness. If we are about to try to impeach a president, where is the Chief Justice? If the accused is no longer president, where is the constitutional power to impeach him? Private citizens don't get impeached. Impeachment is for removal from office. And the accused here has already left office. Hyper-partisan Democrats are about to drag our great country down into the gutter of rancor and vitriol, the likes of which has never been seen in our nation.

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You were the head of the USA Agency for Global Media, which is over the Voice of America, doing your job in the Trump administration. Voice of America put out a video that you just showed me asking people basically to vote for Joe Biden, asking Muslims to vote for Joe Biden. How is it possible that that happened during the Trump administration because it is the most partisan thing I've ever seen.

The Voice of America and the others are required by law to be objective, balanced, and comprehensive. So we were shocked to find the video you referred to that was produced by the Urdu service, which is supposed to target Pakistan, and it was in fact just a really repackaged Biden ad appealing to voters in Michigan, not so much Pakistan. To swing the vote for Biden. We in fact found out about it because of a whistleblower leak. And as soon as we found out about it, it had been up for an entire week really, we asked the Urdu service to take it down, which they did. Then we did something sort of unique in VOA and USAGM history. We wanted to hold accountable those people responsible for breaking the law. And we, we had—

Hold accountable?

Yes, right, shocking.

What do you think this is, 1975? Come on, man.

Well, that's right. So we initiated it. We got the HR department and our internal people to do an investigation, and some of the people were disciplined. Some were fired. Some had things written into their files. Some were put on leave. All the way up. But oddly enough, you will not be surprised, Eric, they claim that was a violation of their rights.

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I got to get the votes.

That's why, you know, The one thing that I have, this strange notion, we are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, well, if you can't get the votes by executive order, you're going to do something. Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. Okay, first of all, it is a strange notion that we're a democracy because we're not a democracy. The man is a buffoon. He does not know the difference between a democracy and a representative republic. That's dangerous, just that fact alone. Strange notion that we're a democracy. We're not. But to that end, you declare that you need to get the votes from Congress, and if you don't, then you're a dictator. And this man has signed more executive orders than any president in American history in his first week in office, and he's still going. The worst part is this is only the appetizer. There is a big main course to come. Every wild lunatic, uh, progressive dream that has ever been held is in play. Everything from the Green New Deal to Medicare for All to statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico to a packed court to an end to the filibuster to the end of the Electoral College. All of these things are in play now. And he doesn't need to get the votes. The strange part about this is usually when new presidents take over and, you know, try to undo some of the things of their predecessor, it's when they feel like they have no other choice because maybe they don't control the Congress. But this guy's got the House and he's got the tiebreak majority in Kamala Harris in a 50-50 Senate, so he doesn't need to do all of this. He's got the Congress, and yet he's dictating anyway. In a way that he describes as dictatorial. Pat is in New York, New York. Pat, you are on the Dennis Prager Show. My name is Bob. It's good to have you, Pat. Go right ahead.

Yeah, hi Bob, can you hear me?

I hear you just fine.

Thank you. For 4 years after 2016, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and the Democrats said that Trump was illegitimate, he stole the election from Russia, etc. Every day for 4 And we Republicans and conservatives are not allowed to say that? This is ridiculous. Rand Paul should be pounding this every day with at least 10 Republicans behind him, senators, congressmen, shaming the Democrats. They're the racists. They're the bigots. They're the anti-Semites. I'm sick of this. Republicans are ruled by the Democrat Party. The Democrats run. The Republicans, they're afraid. They're petrified of Democrats. They run and hide. We're allowed to say this is an illegitimate Joe Biden. He's a racist. He's a bigot. Joe Biden must be treated the same way Trump was treated for 4 years and his family. He's an anti-Semite, which we're Jewish, and the Democrat Party is anti-Israel and anti-Semitic. And we're not going to be silenced. They must be called dictators, because look what they're doing, trying to silence 75 million of us. But no, you know, all we have on Fox News is Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs and Tucker. That's it. Republicans must be on TV every day with Rand Paul pounding this. Use the Democrats' playbook against them. This is so simple to do, but Republicans are terrified of Democrats. They run and hide. Rand Paul, you won't see for another few months now. This is—

it's so simple to do.

Just use their playbook against them. They're the racists, the bigots. They're the terrorists with their Antifa, Black Lives Matter.

Pat, let me hit a couple of points here. Dennis Prager, your points are spot on. It's not necessarily so much that they're afraid of Democrats. They're afraid of the cancel culture. Some of them are too afraid of their own shadows that if they do the wrong thing, say the wrong thing, they are going to be the next target of big tech. They're going to be the next target of the far left canceling them, threatening them, literally threatening their persons and their families. They have seen this kind of thing before. So a lot of them don't want to cross the, the dangerous cancel culture line. Uh, that's part of it. The other part is, you know, you say that Republicans need to be on TV every day hammering home these points. You're right. And that's why they are taking the almost unheard of step trying to not just cancel online platforms like Parler, but CNN and their Democratic cohorts. And they do all work in concert with one another, Democratic elected officials, the DNC, and CNN and MSNBC and the like are trying to call for upstart conservative-minded networks to be canceled, to be revoked, to be— I mean, CNN called literally for a government investigation that could lead to streaming services not pumping Newsmax Television and One America News Television into cable customers' homes because— and here we go again with the argument— those networks are presenting and promoting misinformation that could be taken by white male militia-minded domestic terrorists and acted upon. You understand that? They want conservative-minded news networks canceled because they might spark domestic violence. Never mind the fact that CNN and MSNBC and all of the actual broadcast networks from ABC to NBC to CBS literally promoted the violence, the same type of violence that you saw at the Capitol when the capital of Wisconsin, Madison, was overtaken and occupied by these wild leftist thugs for days. The media on those networks applauded and said, that's democracy in action, there's the voice of the voiceless being heard. So again, the double standard here is thick. I understand that. We'll be right back.

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As this avowed Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise, nearly killing him, and shot one of our coaches and two or three of our staff, he screamed, "This is for healthcare." Ask me or anyone if that's incitement.

That man's name was James Hodgkinson, who tried to murder Rand Paul. Paul, Steve Scalise, and everybody on that baseball diamond. That was Senator Paul reacting to the attempt to try in the Senate Donald Trump after he left office. Uh, we are back with Dinesh D'Souza. This is Rebuilding the Right. Dinesh, you mentioned this maybe 20 minutes ago, but let's reiterate, let's be clear about it. Of the two political parties in America today, one of them has normalized violence in the last 4 years, and it isn't the GOP, is it?

That's absolutely true. Even if you look at Trump's speech, played speech, we got to rise up, we got to fight. This is political standard rhetoric. This is not incitement. Now, I hear that the House managers are trying to use the reaction of people to to the speech to sort of almost imply what was in the speech. But let's say I were to give a speech and I were to say, "You don't have enough money. You need to get more. You need to build up your wealth," and someone goes out and robs a bank. Now, I didn't incite them. I didn't tell them to rob a bank. They might have interpreted my words that way, but that's not a normal interpretation of what I said. So the bottom line of it is there's been no incitement from Trump. But then you compare that to Kamala Harris, where she's talking about the rioters and she basically goes, you know what, they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop. They're gonna continue after the election. And what she means is they're gonna continue looting and burning and terrorizing people. And she goes, and they shouldn't stop. And that's incitement right there if you're looking for it.

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Yesterday's vote by 45 Republicans to assert that an impeachment trial of a private citizen named Donald Trump is unconstitutional. Is a really big deal. I know the media doesn't really want to touch it. Maybe they're just burned out on it, I don't know. But you understand that if there is an impeachment trial, this surely means he's going to be acquitted. If he's acquitted, he is going to claim complete and total vindication. If he's acquitted, he's going to run again, and he is, is not going anywhere. The Trump The MAGA movement just got a huge, huge shot in the arm. Senator Rand Paul yesterday on the floor of the Senate convincing all Republican senators except the handful of Never Trumper malcontents. It's the same bunch, uh, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Sasse, Lisa Murkowski. To me, it's the same ones that all it's always been, but 45 Republicans, including Mitch McConnell, agreed with Senator Rand Paul.

Unity is the opposite of this travesty we are about to witness. If we are about to try to impeach a president, where is the Chief Justice? If the accused is no longer president, where is the constitutional power to impeach him?

So yeah, Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, third line to the presidency, has apparently decided that this whole unity thing that Joe Biden was calling for is, uh, not, not exactly up her alley. Time to heal. Okay. How exactly is healing between Democrats and Republicans going to happen when she refers to Republican members of Congress, her colleagues in the People's House, as the enemy within? Nancy Pelosi has called armed Republican members of Congress the enemy within, and she has accused them of threatening Democrats while demanding more cash for security on Capitol Hill. I'm, uh, I'm almost at a loss here. When you, you know, Rand Paul— it's the last caller— talked about Rand Paul. Rand Paul did a masterful job, uh, a couple of days ago, uh, pointing out the absurdity of the notion that Donald Trump in any way, shape, or form incited an insurrection by saying we have to go to We have to go and fight for our rights and fight for the country, because of course we all know that the word fight has been used by virtually every candidate in the history of the world. I'll fight for you, I'll fight for you, let's get together and fight for what's right, let's fight for the weak, fight for the underprivileged, and so forth. The idea that such a thing could be considered an incitement to actual violence is absurd, to say the very least. Rand Paul went out and and made it even better when he talked about the obvious. Was Bernie Sanders to blame for inciting the gunman who shot up the baseball practice of the Republican congressional baseball team? Was Bernie Sanders to blame for that? Should Bernie Sanders have been held to account for that? Should Bernie Sanders have been impeached or run out of office because somebody who was a huge fan of his went shot and almost killed Steve Scalise. And Lord knows how many others he would have been hit, would have hit, had there not been police officers there protecting that baseball practice. You remember that? Rand Paul himself and his wife were attacked, violently attacked, by a crowd of wild, radical liberal Democrats as he and his wife walked from, uh, I can't remember exactly the occasion. In fact, let me just give you this because I think it's worth making the point here. As Nancy Pelosi slanders Republican members of Congress saying that they are the enemy within and that they have threatened, physically threatened members of the House. I bring this up, Democrat members, I bring this up because it seems as though the only person threatening, uh, people are Democrats like Maxine Waters and like Cory Booker and like Bernie Sanders and others. Listen to Rand Paul.

Incited the reprehensible behavior and violence of January 6th when he said, I know everyone here will soon march to the Capitol to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Peacefully and patriotically. Periodically. Hardly words of violence. But what of Democrat words? What of Democrat incitement to violence? No Democrat will honestly ask whether Bernie Sanders incited the shooter that nearly killed Steve Scalise and volunteer coach. The shooter nearly pulled off a massacre. I was there. Because he fervently believed the false and inflammatory rhetoric rhetoric spewed by Bernie and other Democrats, such as, "The Republican healthcare plan for the uninsured is that you die." As this avowed Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise, nearly killing him, and shot one of our coaches and 2 or 3 of our staff, he screamed, "This is for healthcare." Ask me or anyone if that's incitement. No Democrat will ask whether whether Cory Booker incited violence when he called for his supporters to get up in the face of Congresspeople, a very visual and specific incitement. No Democrat will ask whether Maxine Waters incited violence when she literally told her supporters, and I quote, that if you see a member of the Trump administration at a restaurant, at a department store, at a gas station or any place, you create a crowd and you push back on them, is that not incitement?

And yet here is Nancy Pelosi literally on the record as declaring that fellow members of Congress, Republican members of Congress, are the enemy within. They have threatened Democrat members of Congress. This is, this is the same woman, by the way, who admitted at the end of last year after the election that she held off on agreeing to a stimulus bill because we didn't have a new president yet. She literally let people starve for months until Biden won the election. Then she signed off on that relief, that relief. Unbelievable. We'll be right back.

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Tonight on Sean Hannity's show, Senator Lindsey Graham asserted that this is all driven by fear on the part of the Democrats. I agree, but I would have to add a footnote to what Senator Graham said last night to Sean on Fox News.

Why are they doing this? They're afraid. I think Democratic senators are afraid of the left wing of their party, that if they don't give some credibility to this trial that started in the House, they're in trouble. And Joe Biden's been a huge disappointment thus far, not only on policy, but on the idea that I'm going to bring the country together. How easy would it be, Sean, for Joe Biden to say it is bad to impeach a president after they leave office. Enough already with Donald Trump. Let's look forward. So it tells you a lot about Biden's ability and desire to bring us together by the fact that he's sitting on the sidelines and his only comment has been, I don't think they have the votes.

I don't disagree with that, but I would add one footnote. Again, I would add this: there's fear, all right. They don't know what to do with Donald Trump and tens of millions of supporters who are not going anywhere. They want us to go away. They want to wish us away. They want to will us away. They want to censor us away. They want to shut us down.

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Gensocchi is having a tough week, but we will circle back. Let's play the montage of Gensocchi just in the last week. She's got a lot. I don't know if she ever circled back to any of these questions. Do you— could you imagine if Kayleigh McEnany would have been just saying something like this? Play tape.

I can— I'll circle back if there's more I can share with you. I'll circle back with you if there's more to convey. I'll have to just circle back with you. We can circle back with him. I'm happy to circle back with you. I can circle back. I will have to circle back on that one. That's an excellent question. Oh, such an important question. We will circle back with you and we'll circle back with you. It's an interesting question, but we'll circle back. I'm happy to circle back, but I'll have to circle back with you on it. It's a good question, but we'll circle back with you on this today. We will certainly circle back with you more directly.

That's one week. She's got a lot of circling back to do.

Maybe we should circle back with her on whether or not she circled back on any of those questions.

I'd like to know if she actually circled back with this. And look, one of the reasons why— and Isabel, you made this point in the break— there's just kind of this clumsiness to how to answer these questions is we need to ask themselves, ask Jen Psaki and the White House, why are you there? What is your mandate? And actually, by pursuing the impeachment and conviction of Trump, they are pursuing the one mandate they told themselves, right?

Their entire objective on the campaign trail was to get rid of Donald Trump, whatever it took. And then once we get there, we'll kind of figure out what we want to do once we're in office. And you're seeing that so perfectly reflected in these daily press briefings, which kudos to them for having, by the way, starting on day one. It is great to see a public face of the administration, but her inability to answer any question virtually to a full extent just goes to show that they're still figuring out what they want to do.

And also, it's just— that's exactly right. And the mandate to govern is missing.

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What'd I say? You said I call MSNBC, uh, names. Um, I call them MSNBC Hee Haw because I think a lot of their hosts are pretty silly. But, uh, you You think that's really cruel and mean and nasty? It's the same thing as calling somebody a fascist.

17 minutes before the top of the hour, 17 minutes of outstanding, awesome talk radio in store for you here before we are done at The top op friend sitting in for Dennis Prager. I'm looking at a couple of other news stories that are, you know, along the lines of Nancy Pelosi claiming that they are threatened by the enemy within. AOC and Anthony— might as well, why not— Anthony Ocasio-Cortez. Actually, that was a slip of the tongue. I meant to say Alexandria Damasio-Cortez. That's what I normally refer to as. But at any rate, AOC Apparently, um, saw a tweet from Ted Cruz in which Ted Cruz apparently backed something that AOC says. Uh, Ted Cruz tweeted that he fully agreed with AOC's opposition to the app blocking users from buying some stocks. Has to do with the stock trading app Robinhood. She criticized, uh, um the stock trading app Robinhood, and Ted Cruz said, "Yeah, I agree." And she responded to Ted Cruz's support for her position on this by saying the following: "You almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago, so you can sit this one out." End quote. On a public platform, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accused Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered. She's been crying and screaming she almost died the day of the Capitol riots ever since January 6th. In fact, she has accused her fellow members of Congress in that room, the white male Republican members, of potentially putting her life in danger. She said that they— she felt and feared that they were going to signal somehow the rioters to come in there and show them where she was so they could kill her. Now she has identified not just a group of members of Congress, she literally said to Ted Cruz, you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago. The one thing, if I have any one wish that I could see granted in the calendar year 2021, and I might be stretching here because it's only January, But if I could have one wish granted, it would be that Ted Cruz sues her for slander and defamation of character. If this— I'm not a lawyer, but if this is not actionable in a court of law, I don't know what is. This will fundamentally and thoroughly harm his reputation and damage his ability to do his job. More than I think anything anybody could ever say about anyone else could. She accused Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered. In her own words, I hope Ted Cruz sues her for every tip she ever made behind the bar and every tip she ever makes going forward when she returns there. Which is where she is destined. I hope he takes anything and everything she ever made from selling herself on TikTok videos, making bread rolls, or whatever the heck it is that she was doing. I hope every cent she ever makes trading on her image or her likeness or her videos or anything else belongs to Ted Cruz. You want to try to bring unity? To the country, Joe Biden? Condemn AOC for accusing a senator, a United States senator, for trying to have her murdered. Now is the time, Joe Biden. Put your money where your mouth is. If you wish for unity to be brought to this nation, your pledge during your own inauguration was to unify this country, to bring right and left, Democrat and Republican, red state and blue state, to bring them together. Here is the opportunity to walk the walk after you talked that talk. If you don't issue a stern and unambiguous condemnation of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for publicly accusing a sitting United States Senator, Ted Cruz, of trying to have her murdered 3 weeks ago, then nothing you ever say in that Oval Office or behind that presidential seal should ever be taken seriously again. Indeed, I would say this: if you refuse to condemn this Disavow that unbelievably. Call for an apology from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. You have no business serving in that Oval Office. There is nothing that you can do short of full and public condemnation, disavowing, and demanding of an apology from that sitting member of Congress for her attack on that sitting member of the United States Senate. Nothing you can do short of that. Berkeley, Michigan. Probably better than Berkeley, California. Uh, hi, uh, this is Kelly— or I'm sorry, Katie, beg your pardon. Katie, you're on AM 40— or I'm sorry, I just gave you my local station call letters. Uh, you are on the Dennis Prager Show. Katie, go right ahead.

Uh, hello, Bob. Um, yes, I just wanted to say that I, uh, strongly disagree with that caller who Dennis Prager, who said that talk show hosts were responsible for what happened at the Capitol. It's just a typical leftist thing for them to suggest that people can't think for themselves and make their own decisions, that they have to be told what to do and how to behave. And I just wonder what this man thinks of Madonna saying that she wanted to blow up the White House in 2017 at the Women's March. And you know what, what happened with her when she said that? You know, that's, that's an incitement of violence if you ask me. And, or what about Kathy Griffin, the comedian who had a head that looked like Donald Trump's head, that looked like a severed head of Donald Trump? And that was supposed to be comedy. And these things are tolerated, that, you know, this behavior by the left is tolerated. And then Donald Trump saying to peacefully go to the White House and cheer on the brave representatives who are going to challenge the Electoral College, which is a completely constitutional thing to do. And he's accusing—

I would, I would take your point that you're making right now, Katie, and I think it's a great one. And I thank you so much for that phone call. And I would make it a little bit more apples to apples here because he's talking about talk show hosts being responsible for this, that, or the other. Let's stay in that realm on the television side. Chris Cuomo spent an entire segment saying that not all punches are created equal. Some punches and some attacks on people you don't like are justified. The leftist attacks on righties. We'll be back.

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As this avowed Bernie supporter shot Steve Scalise, nearly killing him, and shot one of our coaches and two or three of our staff, he screamed, "This is for healthcare." Ask me or anyone if that's incitement.

That man's name was James Hodgkinson, who tried to murder Rand Paul, Steve Scalise, and everybody on that baseball diamond. That was Senator Paul reacting to the attempt to try in the Senate Donald Trump after he left office. Uh, we are back with Dinesh D'Souza. This is a Rebuilding the Right. Dinesh, you mentioned this maybe 20 minutes ago, but let's reiterate. Let's be clear about it. Of the two political parties in America today, one of them has normalized raised violence in the last 4 years, and it isn't the GOP, is it?

That's absolutely true. Even if you look at Trump's speech, played speech, we got to rise up, we got to fight. This is political standard rhetoric. This is not incitement. Now, I hear that the House managers are trying to use the reaction of people to the speech to sort of almost imply what was in the speech. But let's say I were to give a speech and I were to say, "You don't have enough money. You need to get more. You need to build up your wealth," and someone goes out and robs a bank. Now, I didn't incite them. I didn't tell them to rob a bank. They might have interpreted my words that way, but that's not a normal interpretation of what I said. So the bottom line of it is there's been no incitement from Trump. But then you compare that to Kamala Harris, where she's talking about the rioters and she basically goes, you know what, they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop. They're gonna continue after the election. And what she means is they're gonna continue looting and burning and terrorizing people. And she goes, and they shouldn't stop. And that's incitement right there if you're looking for it.

It's awesome. That dude is awesome. You know, I really meant what I said. If Joe Biden refuses to condemn and disavow those remarks from AOC and demand an apology and a retraction, uh, he is not fit to serve in the United States Oval Office. And if Nancy Pelosi does not move to censure her party mate and colleague in that House on a couple of important committees as well, and maybe even consider stripping her of committee assignments, then she should be removed from her office as well. This is unconscionable. Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, put your money where your masks are, all four of them, because I'm assuming you're both wearing two apiece. After all, Anthony Fauci said it's just common sense that two would be better than one. Of course, it's common sense that 12 feet would be better than 6 feet too. Are we going to mandate that? And it's really common sense that 3 would be better than 2. Hell, why don't we just duct tape our mouths and our noses shut so nothing can come in or out and then see how long that lasts? Uh, put your money where your mask is, Joe Biden. Your party member, your party member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just took your marching orders to heal and unify by accusing a fellow member of Congress of trying to have her murdered. That's your unity. That's your healing. John in Chicago, you're on the Dennis Prager Show. Go ahead, John.

Hey, well, I wanted to go back to something you said earlier.

I hope that's okay.

Well, go ahead. Just make it quick, sir.

Yeah, you seem like you're on kind of a crazy roll. I just want to say you were talking before about the vote in Pennsylvania. And, you know, you tuned in the next morning and the vote totals had changed, and you were, you know, you felt like it was— they changed the rules unfairly. But just to be clear, just to be clear, the way the, the way mail-in voting worked in Pennsylvania, I understand that you felt like they counted the ballots for too long after Election Day, even though the Republican legislature in Pennsylvania made it the law that they couldn't start counting those ballots until Election Day. But all those votes that you think should be ruled inadmissible, those aren't fraudulent votes. Those are votes from legitimate voters of the state of Pennsylvania who just—

when they arrive after— when they arrive after the deadline, my friend, they become fraudulent votes. They become invalid votes. Otherwise, why have an Election Day and just say, get them in sometime this month? And, uh, As long as they come in, we'll count them. No, there has to be a deadline. There has to be a cutoff. Anything after that is invalid. David in Lansing, Illinois. David, go ahead. David, are you there? Okay, I'm not going to be able to get you if you're not ready to go. I've only got about 40 seconds left. Mark in Pasadena, go ahead, Mark.

Yeah, I got a 2021 wish too, that Mike Pence is hanged as a traitor.

That aside, I'm not going to allow that, actually. No, you don't get to talk after saying something stupid like that. That is ridiculous. That is repugnant. That is repulsive, and it's not something that I will tolerate from anybody on the left or the right, which, by the way, is what differentiates me from the left. All right, that's it. That's all the time we've got. I was glad to be here today. Thank you for letting me be a part of your day. Stick around. Hope to talk to you next time on the Dennis Prager Show.

Bye-bye.