What Men See, What Women Want | Male/Female Hour

In this episode of the Dennis Prager Show’s Male/Female Hour, host Dennis Prager opens the lines to callers to discuss male sexual nature, cultural shifts in how men view women, and practical relationship advice. Callers share personal experiences: Kristen laments the loss of “noble” male behavior and feels violated by men’s looks; Ken describes how pervasive soft‑porn media erodes men’s self‑control and has damaged his marriage; Shelly, Celia, and others raise concerns about women’s post‑marriage appearance, weight gain, and the impact of visual advertising. Prager repeatedly argues that men are biologically programmed to find attractive women sexually appealing while also being capable of respectful, professional interaction, and that the solution lies in personal responsibility, self‑discipline, and mutual effort from both sexes. He condemns “soft porn” (billboards, TV, MTV) as harmful, advises men to avoid overt sexual references in early interactions, and urges women to maintain self‑care and understand men’s visual nature. Throughout, Prager references biblical teachings on purity, cites his own CDs on male sexual nature, and promotes his books and phone lines for further questions. The episode intersperses sponsor spots and promotional plugs, but the core narrative is a back‑and‑forth between Prager’s conservative perspective on gender dynamics and callers’ lived concerns.
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This hour I'm going to do something we have not done, and that is something I have periodically, about 3 times a year, do on the Happiness Hour. I am going to open lines to you.
Yes, I wanted to comment on my observations about the culture of male sexuality. Men were more noble, it seemed, at least the noble ones were, and would try to protect women from men viewing them that way and had more honor for them. And I don't find that today, and I would really like that, and I miss that.
Hmm.
Well, you, you, you miss it?
I feel violated because I could tell when a man's looking at me that way.
Why did—
Looking at me like I'm a— I'm an attractive woman.
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I'm old-fashioned.
I like 2 sexes.
Yeah, and another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a new woman. I want a wife, not a competitor. Competitor! Competitor!
Talk about it a bit, this crying in the morning thing, this depression, you know?
Let's get that fixed. That's what men think, isn't it?
What?
Well, that unless you've got the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this bloke in the Essex Road who could fix that, then there's no point bothering.
How do you write women so well?
I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability. I love him.
I love him.
And I don't care what you think.
I love him for the—
for the man he wants to be, and I love him for the man that he almost is.
What do people have rows about here?
Uh, money, sex, sex, money.
He wants, she doesn't want.
She wants, he doesn't want? Women have always been a big problem to me, Dr. Fussbend. Are you listening, Doctor? Yes, yes, yes, go on, go on. Hi everybody, it's the male-female hour on the Dennis Prager Show. I have a big smile on my face because I love this hour. Talking about the great, great issues of male and female natures and their relationships, etc., etc. And I fancy myself a specialist, if you will, in explaining— every man is a specialist about male sexual nature, but I'm a specialist in explaining it. But every guy who has any Self-awareness can— knows, knows what I'm talking about when I talk about that subject. This hour I'm going to do something we have not done, and that is something I have periodically, about 3 times a year, do on the Happiness Hour. I am going to open lines to you. And I have spoken for now a couple of years on this. Some of you have my 4-CD Introduction to Male Sexual Nature. And, uh, the reactions are what prompted me, just as the reactions to my happiness talks 20 years ago prompted me to write a book on it and then do a happiness hour. And now it's the most frequent single talk that I give around the world. So too, your reactions to my CDs about male sexual nature, how it made your daughters understand men and understand their effect on men, because girls are, are just unaware. And they, they have to be. There's no way for them to be instinctively understanding of male sexual nature. It is so different from theirs. And many people have said that I have saved their marriage with these, with these CDs. So the— like the reaction to my Happiness Talks. These talks have prompted me to want to write my book on male sexual nature and do this show. I invite you to call me, whether you're a man or a woman, and ask me anything about men and especially their sexual nature, but anything about men and/or their sexual nature. I'm opening up the lines to you. Either anything you've heard or anything that I did not say, anything you differ with, anything that is not clear. You're wondering about something about your husband. I may not be able to answer every single question. That's a given. But I might be able to answer enough to make this a very worthwhile experience. 1-800-PRAGER-776 is the number. 1-800-PRAGER-776, which digitally is 800-243-7776. 800-243-7776.
Thank you.
And your questions will help prompt even more subjects, perhaps, for additional male-female hours that we'll be doing. By the way, if you do want to get those 4 CDs, and I, I pretty much promise you a better way of understanding the man in your life, and for you men to explain yourself, because it's easier for your wife or girlfriend to hear about you From a stranger or an outsider than from you. You can get those CDs at 800-225-8584, 800-225-8584, as well as the Best of the Male-Female Hour downloads or CDs as well. Or just go to DennisPrager.com. 800-225-8584. That's not to get on the show. That's to, uh, Order those CDs about male nature. Okay, let's go to your calls immediately. Kristen in— is it Julian, California? Is that right?
Yes.
Where is Julian?
It is about an hour, hour and a half east of San Diego. Oh, tiny little mountain community.
Yeah, I was gonna say, it must be beautiful.
Yeah, bed and breakfast, lots of horses.
Oh, that's great. I envy you. Go ahead.
Yes, I wanted to comment on my— what my observations about the culture of male sexuality.
Mm-hmm.
I was raised Catholic, and then I became a born-again Christian about 17 years ago. And just, you know, the culture is definitely taking us to, oh, sex is fine and blah blah blah blah blah. And then we're learning a lot about male sexuality. And that's fine and good, but I see in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, you know, I see Job in the Old Testament made a promise that he wouldn't look at a virgin. You know, he wouldn't even look there. And, you know, it's clear in both the Old and the New Testament, you're supposed to stay pure and not look at women that way. And obviously, that's a natural inclination.
Mm-hmm.
But the proper thing was to, you know, be trying to do the opposite thing. And I see in like the 1800s, 1700s, I read the classics and I love them because men were more noble, it seemed, at least the noble ones were, and would try to protect women from men viewing them that way. And had more honor for them. And I don't find that today, and I would really like that, and I miss that.
Hmm.
Well, you, you miss it?
I feel violated, because I can tell when a man's looking at me that way.
Well, why do you—
Looking at me like I'm an attractive woman, but— or looking at, you know, with respect like I'm a lady, or looking at me the other way. And I just feel violated.
Well, okay, let me start You feel violated. Let me start with this last point, and then, then we could, we could do biblical things later. But let me, let me, let me ask you that. Let us say that you know that a man is looking at you and, uh, that way.
Okay.
And I'll even define that way a little later, but he's looking at you that way.
Why?
And this is a really important thing for you to think about, and you might want to answer right now. Why does that preclude his also looking at you respectfully. See, I don't—
I don't—
I think that men can chew gum and walk at the same time, that they can view a woman in that way and respect her all at the same time. It's not one or the other. It's not Madonna or whore.
But I can tell the difference. I can tell when I'm being respected and thought of more as a lady, or if I'm being— No, but you You're—
you're— you're— no.
You're there as a sexual—
Yes, but, but let's say you are at a— I don't know, let's say you had a job and you're at a business meeting.
Uh-huh.
And a man is looking at you that way and has to negotiate with you some contract.
Right.
I can say on behalf of men that most men are capable, and indeed not only capable, do both almost all the time.
Okay, but some men don't let the woman know then.
Oh, so your problem is with perhaps a man—
Revealing it then.
Okay, well, I have a problem with that too. I think men should— But I think it's just pointed.
Like that kind of a man, I'm just like, ugh.
Well, look, I'd have to have a video of what the man did, but I think that most women are aware of how a man sees her. and are not, and should not necessarily feel violated. On the contrary, you're 45 years old?
49.
49. There may come a time when men do not quite as readily view you that way, and you may well miss it.
I know, and I told myself that last night, and that's true, but I just wish it was more with the respect All right, well, that's why I—
all right, that's why— okay, listen, it's a good call, Kristen. Thank you for it. This is why I go back to my original point. It is not an either/or. A man is capable of looking at a woman as both a sexually desirable, even objectified object, and negotiate a great contract with her at the same time. And what he will think is, wow, She's really something. She's both sexy and competent. Wowee. But a man can do that. We are programmed by God himself to see women that way, as to the religious issue that you raised at the outset. And this is an area worthy— probably worthy of its own hour once on religious approaches to this matter. Because I think that for men to work— it takes more work to deny that that's how you see women than to see women that way and learn to control yourself. We will be back in a moment. 1-800-PRAGER-776, the Male-Female Hour. Any question you want.
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The Male-Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. These extraneous noises drive us all a little nuts. I'm doing something very important, and that is handing over this show to you, as it were. This, this particular Male-Female Hour, after years of setting the topic each hour, each Male-Female Hour, any questions you have about men and their sexual nature. That is my next book. After being pushed and cajoled and encouraged by people all over the country, And when I would cite all the books, you know, people who read 2, 3, 4 books at a time. I am cursed with writing 4 books at a time, and it is cursed, but it is— this is the one that it has to be. This is the one that I have, I guess, the most original things to say right now of significance. The last caller is an important one. I did an hour, by the way, just to give you an idea how many topics we've covered. I did an hour on the issue of a woman being looked at as a sex object, and particularly a wife, and how men do objectify. They're not taught to. That is our nature. Male homosexuals objectify males. So it has nothing to do with some inferior way in which we see women. Unless you believe that gay men see men as inferior, then please understand it's translated into a woman's mind as being seen as somehow reduced in value. value, but you're not. It does not reduce your value. If that's your only value, yes. But, but most men are not morons. Yes, believe it or not, most men are not morons. And they understand that that is, that is a part of your value, not your entire value. Just as it's part of a man's value if he, if he has an honorable income. But, uh, it's— a woman is a fool if that's the only value that she ascribes to a man. But, but it's a little silly to deny that it is, that it is seen at all. Okay, let's, uh, let's go to some more of your calls, and, uh, let's go to, uh, Shelly in West Hills, California.
Yes, hi Dennis.
Hi.
I want to piggyback on, I think it was Kristen's comment.
Yes, right.
In that I see in our society a bombardment of scantily clad females on billboards. No need to go into all the details of the ubiquitous nature of scantily clad women. And I was wondering, I see it as a negative development. How do you see it?
Oh, it's entirely a negative development. In fact, I regard what— that's what we call soft porn. The billboards, the ads, the sitcoms, This is soft porn. I regard that as actually more destructive than even the regular porn, which is still, after all, hidden and it has to be sought after. The bombardment in the male's life of sexual imagery, given the power of visual stimulation in a male's life, has been a terrible thing for men. It's been a terrible thing for women. to have to always look up and see, do I look like that? Can I compete with that? It has only had a negative impact. Only.
And what do you feel— can we do anything about it, or do we just live with it?
Well, one thing, one thing that one can do about it— look, I mean, what are we gonna do, you know, shoot down billboards? What— one of the things that we can do is not watch the stuff whose entire purpose is titillation. See, I'm not— and by that I mean the sitcoms, MTV, et cetera. If we don't watch it, they won't produce it. And so that's the best answer that one can give. You can't legislate it out of existence, although I don't understand why. I'll never forget many years ago, when I was only on in Los Angeles, I was told about and verified that at a major intersection in Los Angeles, there was a billboard with, let's see, Christmas bells, as it were, hanging from the nipples of a male, or I believe it was. And this is the reduction of Christmas to a nipple ornament. was a little too much. And people did protest and the store did take it down. But that's very rare. The best is simply not to watch the stuff. But it's had an unhealthy— that's why I say I think it's much— the point is not to defend porn. The point is to say that whatever you think about pornography, the soft porn, the ubiquity of soft porn on television, on MTV, in sitcoms, in movies, has actually been more destructive, in my opinion. All right, thank you for calling. Let's go to Ken in Brooklyn, New York, on the Apple AM 970. Hi, Ken.
Hi, Dennis. The last 2 women's phone calls are a perfect dovetail to my question to you. Please help me formulate my question now, because I'm sitting here listening, I'm actually crying, because I realize, you know, that I called in just to ask a basic question about women, and I realize how pervasive the The titillation thing and the softcore porn has played an effect in my life, you know, to the really the destruction of my marriage and the dissolution of my family. I grew up in the Playboy era where it was natural to have Playboy books on the, you know, in the barber, you know, when I went and got my first haircut, it was all Playboy books. And then Penthouse came out, you know, even my grandparents had the magazine. And then porn came in and, uh, So I, you know, I was programmed as a male to only look at women as sex objects. And I have never been able to bridge that gap. You know, it was in my marriage that I had to deal with a real, live, 3-dimensional woman, you know, and I wasn't up to the task. And, you know, besides the fact that I'm bipolar and I suffered from depression and, you know, the circumstances of my life growing up, my wife just divorced me after 20 years. And, you know, that was 3 years ago. I haven't had sex in years. And so I'm walking around angry and sullen and depressed, and I'm repelling women. And my original question to your screener was, what do women want? Because I don't know if they want me to send the signal that I find them desirable, or do I do the thing that I've always done and just be a perfect gentleman, and then I have no sex because I don't send out the signal. And so I don't want to be this angry guy. And the ultimate irony— and then I'll let you take over, Dennis— is that— All during the last 10 years of my marriage, which were absolutely miserable, I just dreamed of pornographic fantasies of being with, you know, numerous women and all of that, and being a player and single, and just be— and that was going to bring my happiness. And then once the marriage was over, I realized, wow, that's really not what I want. This is the ultimate irony. Now that I have the opportunity to go on the internet and swing and do all this stuff, it's the last thing I want. My big fantasy now is to meet a woman that I could actually reveal every part of me to without fear of being rejected or judged.
What do you do for a living?
Or left, you know.
What do you do for a living, Ken?
I, uh, I have my own business. I'm a children's entertainer, you know, so, you know, and I'm my own employee, so, you know.
Are you making a living now?
Yeah, I am, you know.
Right. And do you have a house or an apartment or what?
No, I, I'm renting a basement apartment somewhere, you know. I'm not a player. I don't have money, you know.
Right.
Okay. All right. I'll respond when we come back. I'm glad you called. Thank you.
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Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.
All right, it's 877, not 800. 877-243-7776. Or 1-800-PRAGER-776 to talk to me. This is the Male-Female Hour, and I'm having you ask whatever you would like, especially about men and especially about their sexual nature. I have set the topic for years now, so it's well over 100, maybe 150 topics. I don't know when I started the Male-Female Hour. Was it 2 years ago or longer? And, but I want to hear what, what you have to ask. The last caller is, is really more for the Happiness Hour, but it doesn't matter. And, you know, has had a 20-year marriage which failed. And he's now— while he was married, he was fantasizing essentially, he had orgiastic fantasies. And now that he's not married, his biggest fantasy is just to be real with a woman and have a full life with her. So the only answer, the only comments that I need to make, there were a few. Obviously, there's much I could say, and I don't, I don't have an instant analysis for someone who I only know for 3 minutes, and that's long enough for radio. Sometimes I have an instant analysis. This is not one of them. But in any event, first of all, blaming it on, on magazines is, is to take away your responsibility for your life. The magazines that you were mentioning— Playboy, Penthouse, etc.— The— there are any number of men who have seen them and who have had loving and wonderful marriages, and there are any number of men who have never seen them who have had awful marriages and mistreated their women. The awful marriages and mistreatment of women predate the published image by thousands of years. This is not to say that they're wonderful. It's just to say that I don't like when people— Blame outside things. It's like people who blame alcohol. The vast majority of people can drink alcohol fine. There is a, there is a percentage for whom it is absolutely devastating. All right. So much for that part. Look, at your age, Ken, in your 40s, I believe, in a basement apartment and It's going to be a challenge to begin with in attracting a woman. I think she wants to see a more stable life, something that shows more perhaps having been accomplished. There are basic primal needs or desires that women have in a man. And so there are a lot of things that you have to work through. My general recommendation for both men and women on dating is to be yourself. Uh, that means you don't act out on every, on every impulse, but it's to be yourself, is to be natural. And of course, it goes to the happiness subject. People prefer happier people. Look, he acknowledged the bipolar problem to begin with. That's not going to help you. And if it's controlled with drugs and therapy and so on, that's great. And that's an achievement. Okay, let's go to, let's go to some more, more calls. We'll stay, I guess we'll stay in Brooklyn, New York and talk to Jenny. Hello, Jenny. Dennis Prager.
Yeah, hi. Thank you for taking my call, and I want to thank you for your wisdom, and you've really helped me a lot in a lot of different ways.
Thank you. I'm delighted to know that.
Okay. I'm a young mother of a few children. I'm a little nervous. I have this problem for a while, a long while. And it came up again yesterday. I am post-surgery and I met a surgeon yesterday and—
You're what surgery? I'm sorry.
I had an appendix taken out.
Okay, you're post-surgery. Was that the word? Post. I missed post. Go ahead.
Right.
And I don't know what it is. Whenever I meet men one-on-one or— so anyways, the surgeon calls me in and he says, And I just start blushing like crazy, and it takes me like a good minute to calm down, and I feel so uncomfortable. And then we just start talking, and he asks me these questions, and it just always comes up. And could be maybe because I know I'm attractive, and I might think maybe what they're thinking. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's psychological, but—
When you say it always comes up, what's the it?
Whenever I meet men one-on-one and they talk to me and they have eye contact, I feel extremely uncomfortable. And I blush. And—
Is it for the similar reasons of my first caller, Kristen, that, that you think that they're thinking sexually?
Maybe. Maybe. I just have a hard time controlling myself, and it takes a good minute till I calm down.
Well, when you say it, it always comes up, That's what I need to know, what the it is. You'll tell me when we come back. You're listening to the Male-Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show.
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Now, back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.
Dennis Prager here, the Male/Female Hour. And I've opened it up to questions that you may have, especially about men. especially about their, uh, their male sexual nature. And Jenny in Brooklyn, uh, you are 31, you described yourself as attractive, and you were saying that you always, uh, blush and have a difficult time one-on-one with a man. Is that right?
Right. Now I thought about it. Family members and men that really know me, I don't feel that way.
Okay, fine. So I'm still—
you—
the word it is the one that's confounding me. You said whenever you're with a man, like you were with your surgeon because you— after your appendectomy, And it happened again and you started blushing and felt a little uncomfortable or more than a little. Whenever it comes up, what's the—
No, the blushing. When the blushing comes up.
Okay. All right.
So—
I'm saying men that know me beyond the way I look, I feel—
All right.
So that— but that's what I'm trying to understand. What is it about the way you look and the way you react to men one-on-one? How are they connected?
Maybe I'm thinking that they're just— they just take me like— like, yeah, they look at me like a sex object.
Okay, so I thought I hit pay dirt. Okay, now, does— is there any man who ever you get to talk to one-on-one who does not send that signal out, or you assume that in every event?
No, no, there are a lot of men that I don't— people that I feel that know me No, no, no, not who know you.
Any stranger man. Do you just assume this with no matter how the man acts, no matter how official he acts, it doesn't matter? You're still thinking he's thinking that?
No, you're right. People that act official and respectful, I think I don't feel that way.
Why did you feel it with the surgeon?
I mean, he's very soft and he's very sweet. The way he looked at me.
Okay, fine. So you felt he sent signals in that way.
Could be, but he was really a nice person. I just felt uncomfortable with his—
Okay, so here— okay, good. This is important. All right, it's obviously— it's been raised so much in just the few calls that I could have that I have to— Alan, we have to address this issue for at least an hour on women and reacting the way men look at them and so on. I do want to say something to the men, however. And guys take me seriously, as well they should. Guys, it is beyond uncouth. It's actually stupid to make sexual references in a first meeting with any woman on earth. All right? It's just stupid. It doesn't— it's— I don't know, maybe there may be some subculture in colleges at this time where that is cool. And will get you a hookup. But as soon as people grow up, meaning graduate college and begin to grow up, it doesn't work. You just look like an idiot. All right? No matter how beautiful the woman or whatever. You become more desirable, you become more respectable, you become more admirable as little references you can make. Now, women who have eyes in their head that are functioning and who have a brain, pretty much know by some way in which we look at a woman that we don't— we're not looking the same as we look at a car. All right. Or at a suspension bridge. But then that's fine. And women— so men on your side, you have to keep it as official and as non-sexually obvious as possible. Women on your side, you have to know that we are programmed to see you that way, no matter how wonderful we are, no matter how judicious, No matter how professional, no matter how decent. Okay? So those are the 2 words of advice for the 2 sexes. And Jenny, yes, that is— an attractive woman is seen that way by men, and it isn't just platonic, and it isn't just like we see a beautiful painting is also aesthetically beautiful. That is the way God or nature programmed us to react to you. But it doesn't mean we can't control our eyes, and it doesn't mean we can't control our mouth. in the way we speak. So there's got to be— both sexes have to work on making the relations between the two sexes better, whether it is stranger or non-stranger. Okay, let's see. All right. Oh boy, too bad. Ken in Brooklyn feels he was humiliated. And all right, you know, I feel bad because— I'm not humiliated. I may have to speak to him off the air, because the last thing I want to do is humiliate anybody, and I didn't want him to be. All right, let's go to Austin in Anchorage, Alaska. Let's go to Austin as soon as the button actually comes up. Austin in Anchorage, Dennis Prager, hi.
Hello.
Hi.
Yes, my question is, nowadays it appears— I've had it happen to me personally, but That women, once they get their husbands, they no longer maintain the effort to stay thin and beautiful, that men are automatically supposed to love them no matter what.
What—
I mean, is that wrong for men to want their wives to stay beautiful?
I can't think of anything more wrong than trying to look your best to catch a man, catching the man, and then not trying to look your best again. I have said, and I've devoted hours to this, people should date while they are married just as they dated before they were married. They should never take the other one for granted, not for one minute. Just as you had to win the love of the person before you were married, you should have to win the love of the person after you are married. Men should feel that way and, and do what they did when they dated, and women should feel that way and do what they did when they dated, which always included looking their best.
And what can I do as a husband of somebody that is not taking care of themselves as they should? How do I encourage them to do so?
Well, play this call for her, where— I mean, I have— if what you describe is accurate, I haven't heard her side of the story, but if what you describe is accurate, you have to say, you have cheated me. You have, and you take me for granted. You have deceived me. You advertised yourself as X, and then when I bought the product, I got Y. That's what it is. That is what happens when somebody tries to look their best, especially in the case of women, given the importance of the visual to men, when they are not married, and then let themselves go once they are married. It is an act of utter deception. And that is why I don't believe that anybody should think no matter how they act, they have tenure in marriage. Back in a moment.
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Hello, hello.
I don't know why you say goodbye.
I say hello, hello. You're listening to The Dennis Prager Show, and let's go to Celia in Minneapolis. This is the male-female hour. Hi, Celia, thanks for calling.
Hi.
Um, I just called to, um, I was just listening to the last segment about the man that called upset because his wife had gained weight after they were married, and, um, with all due respect, I always enjoy listening to you and enjoy your insights. But I have to disagree with you on this issue. To be able to accuse a wife of being deceiving because, um, that happened to her is very dangerous for marriages and for women, because there are multitude, myriad issues and reasons why these things can happen, and it isn't to be labeled and characterized as deception is very dangerous.
I wholly agree with you, and I'm glad— that's why I took your call against 5 other calls that are on the board, including Kent, who feels that I humiliated him, which I never do. But anyway, of course there are myriad reasons, and there's childbirth, which frequently puts pounds on a woman, and so on. All I am saying, and that's why I'm happy I took your call, is men know— I mean, if the man is at all Decent. I mean, I'm always assuming that we have a decent man and a decent woman. If they're indecent, then nothing I say applies. But if the man is decent and somewhat intelligent, he knows whether she is trying to look her best or not. And sometimes— yeah, go on.
Yeah, you're right. That implies that there is a decent male involved because oftentimes he is actually part of the problem. Sometimes His input and his— the things that he gives her following the marriage puts her in a place where she isn't capable of maintaining what she was maintaining before. So, you know—
What are you referring to?
Well, it's like different emotional things happen, different emotional dynamics happen between men and women that are different pre-marriage and post-marriage, and women feeling like being vulnerable with their sexuality or acceptance with their husband. There's myriad reasons why women gain weight, and men and the husbands and their influence on wives.
Right, okay, so, okay, you're right, and I wish we had a lot of time, and this is a subject I guess I'll just have to revisit and devote a whole hour to at a time, Celia. I just want to make this general rule, and then everybody will see if they fit in it or not. The general rule is terribly simple. You should act like you have to gain the love and earn the love of your spouse every day you're married. Taking your spouse's love for granted will be a disaster. There is no reason to do so. I don't take the love of my friends, my male friends, for granted. That's why I always try to treat them specially. I take nobody's love of me for granted, anyone in my life. This has been the Male-Female Hour on The Dennis Prager Show.
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Sitting actually with me, he, in the room, he's 22 years old, Charlie Kirk. He's founder and executive director of Turning Point USA. It's a national student movement that promotes conservative values on campuses. How many campuses are you on? We are now on 1,000 college and high school campuses across the country. So I asked him, uh, right before he went on, I said, so what college did you go to? And then he went to my favorite college: none.
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