RPM LIVE

Good evening everybody, it is the show after the live live show. Dr. Conor Brady, Dr. Brendan Clark, Dr. Nick Thompson, we're here coming at you through the ether, through the satellites.

You're sounding quite husky today, Thompson.

No, I'm pretty good. This, this is good. That was me putting on my husky.

Oh, we've got a little treat for you.

I can't see anything.

You're not going to. So, you ready, guys?

They're here.

Hang on, you just need to mute for a moment. I've got to mute you.

Oh, we love us. That was fantastic. Who did that? Was that Christina?

It was indeed.

Ah, Chris, thank you very, very much indeed. And, um, a very, very big thank you to, uh, Fiona because she put together an incredible show. Yeah, the whole show was, it was, it was amazing. But, you know, it all started with that intro. And we didn't actually know what was happening. She had briefed us the night before, but it was like, when do we come on? So we were sitting in the green room just to the side, and it was like, and this is the moment you've been waiting for, and here they are, Drs. Brady, Clark, and Thompson, etc. And then we thought, ah, this is probably where we need to—

yeah, yeah. The, uh, the guy that Fiona got to do it was a radio, uh, voice as well, so he had that radio voice. But I think the intro that Fiona uses is different to that intro. That's an that Chris put together. So for the people listening on podcasts, we're after showing a, like, a, um, a 30-45 second reel there of a few pictures from the day that we're after doing on Saturday, the RPM Live Live in Manchester.

So actually, um, um, Fiona's Spectacular is going to be published when we release the videos, which will come in the new year. So you guys will be able to, with a bit of editing, see, uh, some of the start bits through the whole day as well as that intro video because I think, you know, hats off to Fiona, it was brilliant.

That was a serious effort and she didn't tell us so to kind of build the excitement. You don't get to meet people in the morning time. Normally the three of us would be floating around talking to people, but now these days you're in a green room, which sounds very fancy, but you're off to the side and Fiona says, make sure you're looking through the window, through the little window. And we're thinking, okay, Fiona, what is it? Just bring us on, let's go. We're chomping at the bit, ready to get on stage. You know, you, you want to get moving. And so you're watching through the video and then there's this big dramatic build-up and it's like, oh, what's this? And then on it comes on the screen and you think, oh, Fiona never told us. So we got to watch this big build-up for a minute or two and then, now welcome Drs. Thompson, Clark, and Brady. And then we, we ran in and, uh, yeah, I followed Nick. You went your own way, Bren. I followed Nick and then I ended up feeling like I was just running after my dad and I wish I went through this different way.

Anyway, uh, I was thinking, ah, bless you. Somebody did a little video of us running on, and so I went pelting to the other side of the room thinking we were going to do an SAS breach of the room where I would go right, maybe whoever was last out, I think that was Brendan, you would go left, and Conor, you would take the center. Yeah, but we hadn't actually planned that.

You should have talked about it.

And I just went the competitive shortest way to the stage so I could beat Brady on there.

And I was thinking, because Well, you know, one minute before we came on, we were thinking, oh, she's going to announce us sooner or later. We had this conversation. Are we going to run? Are we not going to run? Are we going to run? Are we not going to run? And I said, lads, we have got to run. I'm running. I'm running. I was just thinking, how's your knee these days?

I can do it. Yeah, I know. That's no problem. That's okay. It's changing direction.

You're lazy.

It's— yeah, yeah, pivoting is the problem when you're the tiki-mihi. Yeah, but, uh, no, that was— so the intro was great, and I like the way Fiona didn't tell us, which was— it left you kind of, uh, oh, I kind of suspected she might have had planned something. She planned a few little things during the day that, uh, she didn't tell us about, so it kind of makes it more fun when you're not quite sure. Uh, but we did have the timetable, the extensive, extensive timetable. We got a lot of stuff into that, you know, 8 and a half hours. We got a lot of stuff in there.

So you're wearing your Live Live.

Yeah, I am wearing my Live Live. Check it out, it's a perfect fit as well. It's awesome.

Oh, it looks a bit snug for a large large. What's going on?

That's all the mince pies and free beers. But, uh, yeah, that was great.

Okay, these, these are available, guys. If you were there and you, you want one, they're, they're available on T. Mill? Yeah, if you go to T. Mill and put in Raw Pet Medics, it'll probably take you there. Bren, I really love the superheroes. Can you, for the sake of our listeners, can you describe the superheroes? Oh, superhero, yeah, just image.

Oh, I wish I had a special, uh, memento that, uh, we got given on the last day. But the, um, yes, there was a snapshot of a picture in, uh, I think it was the second picture in if you were watching closely. They'd mocked us up. So it was one— I thought it was one of Conor's AI things initially where he was sticking our faces and heads on just about anything that was going at the time. I was like, oh my God, what's he doing? But I understand that Ellie had a little hand in a production of a superheroes picture with the three of us stuck our heads on. Is that right? Was it Ellie?

No, that's exactly it. She asked a certain AI bot for an image of 3 superheroes in capes with a load of dogs and cats along the front. Did you see the dogs and cats? I was like, you're looking up at us thinking, oh my God, what do I look like? That I did that initially.

Because you're in pink spandex, you mean?

Well, I was in pink spandex and Brendan, I think you were in purple. And then Brady, I think you were in green in the middle.

I think I was in green, Brady was in blue.

Ah, okay.

Yeah, and I was in shocking green. My wife who did it, she's obviously quite happy with your masculinity.

I thought you could cope with a bit of pink.

Put me in the blue. Here you go, let's see if you can see, uh, let's see if you can see.

Let me just— I'll show it.

Hang on there a second. Window.

Tell me when you want me to share it.

There we go.

Have you got it?

Can you see that?

I should have a— oh, look at that. Let's just do that, just so that— so, and then we can describe it again.

It's at an angle, but I don't know who shared that. You get the idea.

Look at that.

Look at that.

You know what, I suddenly realized why Nick was so pro that. Because it was actually the only shot that made Nick the same height as you and me, Brady.

Oh yeah, that I did.

It was just a height thing.

I don't know how she did that. Although on the original thing is she actually decapitated the original guys on the image in order to put ours on top there as well. And I— and for the rest of the day I heard nothing but from, from Sasha and Karen and various persons saying, oh, Nick, you should get blonde highlights because somehow she'd given me blonde highlights.

Nice.

They really like that.

I didn't see that. Oh, I'm going to have to do this again, guys, just to annoy everybody. Just to see if we can actually see.

We're just going in to have a look at the picture again. And you can actually see them from there.

Yeah.

You need to zoom in, Conor. You need to use your screen to zoom in on Nick's. Okay, I thought it was just highlights over the gray. You just need to zoom in on it.

Over the gray, they are actually gray, but the lighting was quite extreme. Highlights.

Oh, nice, Nick, you look, uh, you look awesome.

I'm not planning on doing it, but, um, what do you think, guys? Blonde highlights? I'm not gonna do it, but I'd be interested because a lot of people watching would probably have an opinion. Yeah, uh, should I go blonde highlights?

You could give it a go.

At your age, mate, you should be going for a blue rinse. What's going on?

I know, and a bus pass. I know, mate, I know, I know.

You could try it, you could try it for Halloween, and if anybody says it looks nice, you could just keep it after that. You just wait, bide your time, 10 months, give yourself blonde highlights, do the whole shebang. A little, a little maybe a scar through your eyebrow because that looks great.

Oh yeah, you've got some of them. Yeah.

Yeah, go for like a Cruella de Vil.

Nice.

Just a single gray streak like that. But there we go. Yeah, a big shout out to Kathy Grotendieck who's in New Jersey. My brother is in Summit, New Jersey. So not sure where you are, Kathy, but you are very welcome, as are all our American, uh, followers and supporters. It's fantastic. Also, a big shout out to our Patreon. You can find us on patreon.com/rawpetmedics. And a big thank you to everybody who follows us on the podcasts. And you can find us pretty much on most of the podcasts because Pete, our guardian angel of the digital world, creates our ramblings into something that's vaguely coherent as a, as a podcast. So Pete, you are a miracle worker. You are turning water into wine on a weekly basis.

So I can see— I was wondering where all the comments are on the side, but I just checked out Facebook page and it's absolutely full of comments. There's 130, 140 comments already. I mean, that's like—

and all of them are saying, right, will you move on to what you talked about with dogs and cats? Do anything on the day other than have fun. I mean, come on guys, you know we're all about the fun.

Yeah, it was awesome. So like, yes, the first— the morning of the show was, was kind of talks and the afternoon of the show was, was games. That's definitely the split we had. I think that went really well because I think then we did, we did short lectures with about half an hour each. Bren, what did you do? Give us a, give us a 2-minute synopsis of what you want.

Yeah, let's go through the day bit by bit and just take it to bits.

I found it a little stressful trying to shorten stuff into a half-hour section when you're so used to doing either 3/4 of an hour or an hour, just trying to go, oh my God, I need to get what I want to get across in, in such a short period of time. Yeah.

Or an entire day.

Yeah, um, and so, uh, it was just to give a taster of where I was at, and I think you guys pretty much did the same, but I'll let you go through what you talked about. And I think, um, it was for me just a little bit of, okay, this is, you know, ethos, this is where I'm from, this is where I've got to, this is a bit about why I think that way and what's important about farming to me, what's important about environmental, uh, issues and contamination. I know Nick shares, you know, some beliefs as well. A little bit then moving into where I'm going, and that was very much about this, you know, stop guessing, start testing. Um, and, you know, people, you know, getting that opportunity to use some, uh, supplements that actually work and actually can be proven to work. So getting the results of that, you know, in some of the cellular health tests, um, and then looking at hormone testing, uh, where that's leading, and Then just touching on the pyramid, of which I am producing a set of videos which is related directly to animals, whereas Rowan's doing the human side. So we're coordinating a pyramid of health, so building a base layer around, you know, the routines from things to, um, you know, what's going on with your lifestyle, movement, nutrition, and then hydration. Which we'll come on to in a moment and why that's important. And then the next layer building on, you know, further things to improve your health and how to, you know, many people would say so on the base layer about breathing, people have said to me, well, how do you do that for your pets? Because you can do that for yourself. And it's like actually just being present with them and actually how much your pets will tune in to what you're doing, even for you with Dudley. You know, the point would be, Conor, that actually if you take the time to calm down, and you so brilliantly did this in one of your things of, you know, why is Dudley the way he is? And everybody was turning to you and saying, because you're like that.

Yeah, it's obvious to everyone.

You know, it's exactly that. But actually taking yourself into that zone and doing those exercises, you will not understand how quickly your pets will start to mimic that, to become in sync with what you do. And actually that passage on of, of that, you know, where they're at with their health is so important in their health pyramid too. So it's, it's a really good way of improving the whole family's health to sort of get into those zones. And there's some great stuff. And Nick, you know, it was so great that you then went on to talk about yours. You kept everybody guessing. And I think, you know, just to coordinate as some of the other health imports within what we're doing and what I'm looking at in the future with what you're doing. So, you know, and how did you find what you went through?

Well, I was absolutely terrified, I'll tell you now, because— and I've said this to these guys, but I'll just tell you guys because it's quite hilarious. So Fiona had said strictly, on pain of death, you can only be— you can only do 30 minutes, okay? And, you know, we do day seminars, that's a lot. And so it's actually easier to do a day seminar than it is to do 30 minutes because you've got it— you, you know, it's like, what do I put in? What do I leave out? How do I run it together? How do I not sound like I'm over-talking? And, you know, all that stuff. But so it's 30 minutes, but she said you cannot go over. So I actually had, because I was writing it on the train on the way up to Manchester, okay, because I was getting ideas every half hour. I think, oh, that would be really good to put in. Anyway, I was writing it and I was also trying to get it into my head because normally when I do a presentation, I do presenter view so you can see the next slide and you can see the slide that you're on so you can seamlessly transition into your— the next slide that's coming up. And, and I was told on the Friday night that that would possibly be a possibility, but then on the Saturday morning it was like, nope, sorry, no presenter view. So it was like, oops, I've got to remember all 42 slides. Also, I had 42 slides and 30 minutes to deliver them in, and the normal rule is one slide per minute max. And I think Max, and how many did you guys— you probably did what, 18 or so?

I only had 14 this time. I think I won them for the first time ever.

I think I had the least number of slides.

The beauty of having not that many slides is that you can just breathe into that slide and you can just talk about it and just think about that. Makes— reminds me of this, and this was a good reflection, and when we were talking, la la la la, like there's things like this. Whereas I had a really strict timetable. I had never given this talk before. Fiona was going to shoot me if I went over 30 minutes. And so there was no real stress at all. Okay, so I came on and I was, I was absolutely shaking like a leaf. But I then gave the talk, did my best. And it was about vitamin H. And I'll just give you— does anybody know about vitamin H? Okay, I'll give you just a few little highlights from the first 2 minutes of the talk. This was— this is the most studied material in the world. It has 64 unique properties, and in its solid phase, for example, it has 19 different structures depending on the temperature and the pressure that it is presented with. It is used in, in all of biology. If we didn't have it, we would have no enzymes, we'd have no DNA, we'd have no life on Earth. Um, and so can you guess? This was the game that I played with the audience, and I think probably 20-30% of people got it. And everybody else would go, oh, vitamin H, what's that? Yeah, yeah. And so after about slide 4, I said, It's water. Okay. And we don't realize because it's so ubiquitous, you know, water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink. We, because it's absolutely everywhere. It's in what you breathe. It's in, it's in most of the materials that we use. It is, it bathes and helps construct all the molecules of life. We just don't think about it. And I think we should more. It's a fascinating thing. I gave some books as references. And I think it was generally quite well received. And so I stopped shaking at about 2 PM after delivering the talk at what, 10:30 or something like that. So there we go. It was good. So my advice is be prepared and run through it before you do it.

It's not how we do things, Nick, is it? Let's face it.

No, it was pretty exciting, I have to say. But if you want to maintain your cardiac health, I'd suggest that's maybe not the best way to do it.

Oh yeah, it's stressful walking up and you think, yeah, if you have it drum tight, ready to go, or if it's a talk you've done before, ideally, which doesn't happen half enough. But I love that if I've done the talk already and I'm like, oh, this is going to be lovely and easy. I don't worry about it the night before. It's pleasant. I have a good night's sleep. You know, I have some breakfast in the morning, maybe if I wish. All those, all those things are very, very difficult when you've got 42 slides and unprepared talk. Of course you had to prepare it, but like, it's still, yeah, it's daunting doing a new talk. And particularly if anything goes wrong at all, if like, if you said you'd have the slide view and you don't have the slide view, or I was doing the RFES and the, you know, the editing shifts, so you lose It goes off the screen. It's like, oh, anything like that is enough to throw you. But, um, yeah, I thought it went very well, Nick. I was— bless you, bless you. Yeah, I like this.

And, and, and so I finished, uh, on, on water, and we talked about, uh, there's a lovely book called Lessons in Chemistry. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it for the Christmas holidays if you're looking something good, or you know anybody, male, female, There is a dog. One of the key features is a dog, and you can hear how the dog thinks. And the way it's written is super clever, the way she gets into the dog's mind, and he's a little bit like, oh, you humans are so dumb, why don't you just recognize what I'm doing? So there is some, you know, some perception of dog behavior there. So even for the dog lover of your life, I think it might be good. There is a bit of chemistry, but it's not— there's no equations. I promise you.

Shoot me in the face. Read chemistry over Christmas, that just sounds absolutely miserable. There's just no way I will be buying that unless it's like, uh, unless it's like, uh, what's his name that does A Little History About Everything. Who's that guy again? Uh, oh come on, Bill Bryson. Um, oh, he's good. A Short History of Everything. Oh, it's just wonderful. Is that the way it's written or is it written?

No, no, it's a novel.

It's a novel.

It's a novel. It's a novel.

I don't want to learn anything over Christmas. That's really important. It's one and a half weeks of not learning anything. It's forgetting stuff.

Okay. You could see all of these people writing books down in the front row, you know, everybody going, oh no, another load of books arriving. People were already saying they'd got books being delivered before they made it home.

It was like, yeah.

Yeah, this is good. But this— that was a Christmas book. Yeah, it's not heavy, but that— you'll learn a thing or two maybe. But— and you'll like the dog, and it's a bit sad, and it's a bit lovely, and it did definitely well worth it. It's a holiday book though, it's fairly light. So you will be quizzed.

Is that the book that had a chapter on life and death and sex?

No, that was 13 Things That Don't Make Sense by somebody more Right. 13 Things That Don't Make Sense. Fascinating books. Talks about life. Life doesn't make sense.

Death.

There is the, you know, the logical progression to death. You know, you can talk about telomeres and you can talk about oxidation and you can talk about all these things. But when you look at it from a kind of purely kind of physics and chemistry point of view, it doesn't make sense at all. And sex as well. Sex is, is, is, is an expensive— and I'm not just talking meals, taking people out for dinner— sex is expensive, just energetically, biochemically, massively expensive. And there are much cheaper biochemically ways to reproduce, as the plants have, and some, some animals. Yeah.

Um, was that not Michael Brooks? So it's— was it Michael Brooks?

Oh, Brooks, maybe. Might be more thinking more There's a double O in it and an R. Yeah, so Brooks sounds good. Well done. 13 things that don't make sense is fascinating for the scientist in your life, and for anybody who just wants a good novel, then Lessons in Chemistry is ripping. Now, so I finished more or less there. And then Conor came on and gave a very heartwarming and personal delivery. Tell us about that, Conor. Tell us.

I opened with them. I opened it. I think we all, we all mentioned we were going to do something about life. And, you know, Bren's was most certainly about health and life and Nick's was the most important nutrient in life, I suppose. And then I just put up my first image as a picture of me in dungarees as a 2-year-old going, oh, I thought we were talking about ourselves. But, uh, so, uh, I laughed at myself. It made me feel comfortable though because I knew that the first few slides would be funny, so I knew, um, it'd be easy enough to talk. I mean, who doesn't— who can't talk about themselves for 10 minutes? So, uh, yeah, I enjoyed that.

Could I just say, could I just say to all the parents out there, if there's one picture you don't want your child having to have for the rest of their lives— worst pictures.

That's about the earliest picture of me. I don't have many pictures. Do you guys have many pictures of you as, as babies? There wasn't— was there cameras in the '80s? Because there was nobody taking pictures of me. I got one picture of me as a 2-year-old. And, uh, yeah, I think there's a picture of me outside the church in a bundle of white, yeah, you know, towels or whatever it is. And, uh, you don't, you don't see me. Nice blankets, whatever you do at Christmas.

The Christmas gown.

That was it. You can't see me. So, uh, yeah, no, baby, baby, you have a little bonnet on. I'm just miles away, probably my uncle's arms. It's like, oh, it could be me, it could be anyone. Um, but I think she recreated it when she realized she didn't take any pictures of me as a baby. But, uh, yeah, no, I, I talked about, um, I talked about being the baby of 5 and growing up in a small business and having hard-working parents and all the things that that distills in you. I spoke about, um, finding school quite quite tedious. I didn't like school, I didn't like the lessons. I saw I was a mess, but I knew I was kind of bright, I suppose, like everybody else is. But it wasn't working for me, the classes. So trudged through that, and then I went into college to do science, and I found science just so boring. I mean, I love— which isn't a good start to my career of, yeah, trust me, I'm a scientist. But it took me a couple of years of the hardest work to start getting into the bits that I like, life sciences, environment, biology, and then once I got back into doing that, like, that was what I excelled in in school, and then I did great in that. By the end of it, the degree was fine, and then on to the doctorate, and that was, you know, so walk people through that and told them a bit about the process and what's involved, and, and then going into having a small business through Guide Dogs, having a small business. So I just walk them through why I am the way I am and why I write the way I write, why I find certain things very appealing and other things less so, you know. And so Yeah, I thought that would kind of give people a little bit of background as to why I like certain things and why other things really irritate me, like big business steamrolling people and that kind of stuff. There's some bits and pieces I have a problem with, and it's because of experiences in the past. I've had a bad experience when I was making my own pet food, and, you know, so some little things. And then a lot of lessons in life, just in health, you know. So within my own family, I see the good side of pharma with with dad's liver transplant, you know. And then I see the issues when, you know, Lyme disease struck Elaine and how we got to the bottom of that without anybody's help, you know. And the same again with a mental health issue with someone I cared about. So you see the good and the bad. And I was just trying to say, that's just what I enjoy now. I just say, there might be more. And so culminating in the book, and I told people writing the book and how good it was that I got it out 3 or 4 years ago because in the last while I've been thinking more and more about other stuff and so that's what made me the person I am and I thought that would be a decent little half hour and I didn't think I'd have enough to talk about but it turns out I can talk about myself all day because by the time 30 minutes came I was like, oh my God, I finished on telling people which I've showed them already, shown them a couple of new things, what I've been doing for the last year, shifting dogs first, creating this membership website putting all my courses up there. But now I have this, a couple, 2 or 3 new products to bed in next year— Power Paste, my yeast product, and something else. And yeah, so I gave my 1-year plan and my 3-year plan, and I just told them this is how I make money, this is what I hope will be working next year. And the people that work with me now are in the audience, thank God, you know. And so yeah, I think that helped because a lot of people there were small business owners. I spoke to a huge amount of people there afterwards, and they found it quite refreshing to hear that that I struggled, I suppose. You know, it's, it's, it's, it can be quite tough to be a small business owner. And so, yeah, I thought, I thought it went down pretty well. I got a few nice chats with people afterwards. And, you know, just, I never share any personal stuff on Facebook. I never, don't, I don't do that. I don't do any sharing of social media family stuff, never. But then it's just like, never appealed to me, you know. So that felt like a bit like undressing in front of people. I was like, oh, there you go, that's, that's me. But anyway, that was it. That was— I did— that's what I did. And then we went straight into— what did we do after that? We had—

then we did the Feline Fridays thing. But just before that, I'm just going to say a big thank you to Karen and to Cheryl and to Sasha. And to Sasha.

Yeah.

And again, a big thank you to Fiona.

Yeah.

So many, many, many, many thanks for helping Fiona to do her thing. You were her acolytes. Ellie was helping her as well. Thank you guys, it's just wonderful when we all come together.

Yeah, and, and I'd also just say, yeah, Chris managed to get loads of shots. We've got, we've got the video.

Chris did amazing work.

Yeah, we, um, are of course looking for any of you guys who were there on the day. It would be great to share the photos. Some of you have already on our social media, which is great to see. Um, if you've got any shots, it would be brilliant if you want to just post them to us. Maybe we'll create a link so that you guys can share those and we can take those for another sort of album of best 8.

Best 8 get posted a Christmas card signed by RPM. It's extremely corny, but that's what's funny about it. So you're gonna get an RPM Christmas card signed by the lads, the top 8 photographs shared of the day. So we've already had quite a number shared already, which is cool of you. Speaking of prizes, lads, how many prizes do we need? Did we hand out on the day? Fiona says, okay, so that table of prizes there just is an enormous— like, so many sponsors of the show just give so many bits and pieces. And it just got to the point that we were, uh, with various games, if someone said something cool or did the right thing, stick your name in the hat and you got to win these enormous prizes and hampers at the end. But this is the day-to-day handing out of prizes. We need full-time people just to do that. Um, so I felt like people really walked away with a feeling like it was a pretty good, um, some of them got a good haul. Yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah, absolutely they did.

Yeah, it was great. Yeah, I enjoyed that bit.

Sally T, especially.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

She got a year's worth of Paleo Ridge food for, for her dogs, and so she was, she was like, it was dog day.

Yeah.

And, and so a big shout out to, uh, Carnley the Bone Broth people, Lara, she's great, and to Dogs First. Did you, were you a sponsor or you just hang around?

I did. Not only did I give out a book, a book, or two or three, but I gave out a thing of supplements that somebody made. That's all Karen. Karen just puts all that together for me. So good. And who else is there? There was that worm count stuff. There was DermaDog.

Beautiful. Pro Dog.

Beautiful derma dog. Yeah, Pro Dog. I mean, everybody gave it. Pro Dog Raw. Yeah, Nutrivet gave out a number of big supplements. Vermex hit us. There was just loads. I'm hoping we're not forgetting anybody there. I'm going to look at the list actually while you guys are talking, just in case.

I'm just trying to think from the stage. There is Vermex. No, Vermex was just there. And then Nutrivet was just kind of around the corner. Yeah, who else was towards the right, on the right-hand side?

Uh, the food company.

Yeah, that's it. Yes, they were there.

Gave out a pack of treats to absolutely everybody. Lucille gave out a supplement to absolutely everyone. There was one for everyone in the audience.

Oh, of course, because there was that amazing moment with the hat, wasn't there, Conor?

There, which— well, yeah, when the hat fell off my head, I thought I broke the hat. That was not good. That's everybody. And we also had benefit as well. So I think— did we have benefit? Not quite sure if we did or not.

Oh, I can't remember. They gave us something. Maybe bags, was it?

I don't know.

I think they did. I think they did. So thank you so many to Greg.

So many prizes given out. I think the next year we're just— I think maybe like when they come in, they're going to get like an RPM goodie bag and just like, you know, stuff it full of things and it becomes the thing that you want. The URPm goodie bag, you know. So, so, uh, anyway, yeah, so thanks to all the helpers that were handing those things out. We had the, we had the cats on then, Bren. You were up there with them, with Julianne and Maya.

Yeah, absolutely. It's great to see them. I mean, we tried to make it a little bit more, look, about preparing your house for Christmas, uh, for your pets generally, not just cats, but obviously we love cats too, uh, so we had to bring them in. And great to see the audience with, you know, over half of them, you know, also owning cats, you know, in that arena. So we did wonder whether they'd be mostly dog owners, but no, it was great to see cat lovers too. And I didn't know that Nick had 3 cats. Did anybody know it? Would anybody have thought that he would have had 3 cats as well as 3 lurchers?

3 sighthounds. That's not usually a great combination.

I'm sorry, I'm being, I'm being a bit disingenuous to poor old Bluebell. They're not lurchers, they're wonderfully—

they're a bit more, yeah, a bit more picturesque than the average lurcher, of which we now have one, and he's an absolute tearaway, but he's lovely. He's got a very kind heart, but, um, uh, he's— yeah, he's, he's, uh, he's something.

He's 5 months old, that's what he is. He's a Yeah, he's a hooligan.

He's a lovely, lovely boy. But we do have 3 cats. But, but so we live very, very in the same, uh, uh, area as, uh, Ellie's, uh, mother-in-law. She actually has 2 kittens, so, but we look after kittens and her mother-in-law looks after the dog. So while we were in Manchester for the Live Live, she was looking after the whole lot. And they all lived in the same house together and they all survived the weekend. All the cats, all the dogs in the same house. Can you— and the children too, and 2 extra children.

Can you believe it? Yeah.

Oh, amazing. So, uh, so it was great just to go through, um, a bit about that. I think we're— that's part of the videos. You can understand a little bit more about, you know, making your home Christmas ready. We may even launch that a little bit before Christmas so that people—

yeah, I'd like to hope so, but scary.

So we should be able to get that out as a post separately just for a limited time so that people have got that on a Feline Friday before Christmas. And then we went into a roundup, but very much we then went into Q&A, didn't we? I think Q&A was really interesting post-lunch.

We did a roundup and we and we had a round of pocket questions that were staged for us where Fiona started scoring us on how well we were doing during the day. Yeah, that score was rigged. It turned out in the end Fiona cheated upon my request and put me in the room. I absolutely knew I was going to lose, but Thompson won.

Thompson won with glorious colours.

Yes, he did.

When did she start scoring us? No, but when did she start scoring? From, from after lunch?

I don't know, it was before.

It was after, after the cats.

Yeah, guess how many millions of something something, and guess the thousands of something, and cut up the kidney into little bits. And my kidney didn't go into half. I couldn't cut it in half. I thought it was either a joke knife because it just wasn't—

because they only counted 16 pieces of mine. It was obliterated.

It was like, so still wasn't— something was wrong with my knife until I thought it was just, oh, this is a whole thing as a setup. Same with when we played Mr. and Mrs. and we were holding up the flags and the first few questions were definitely not me, and I thought, this is a setup. Every single question is going to be the lads and not me. But, uh, then I enjoyed that Mr. and Mrs. That was funny where you're holding up the, uh, was that Mr. and Mrs.? It is, yeah. They called it Dr. and Dr. I love that, that was funny.

You forgot Eggheads, of course.

Eggheads was great, yeah. So had the 3 of us against 6, uh, contestants that we picked from the audience. And, uh, yeah, that was great. So the way the game was set up was like, you know, let's say boys' names, and it's like, I go and I go Bob, and someone goes Henry, and you throw the mic back, back, back, but you've only got a couple of seconds to answer. That was funny stuff because it was like organs of the body and all Raw kind of orientated stuff. And then, and actually to set up the questions, was it, um Oh no, actually it was all the, the greats.

So Karen Becker, Lisa Hanson. So we had all the great— yeah, great. Yeah, Julie Morgan. Julie Morgan.

Yeah.

Um, and, and Mark Roberts made an appearance even. Yeah, even now with his dogs.

He did. Yeah, he texted me.

We had Matt back, didn't we?

Oh yeah, yeah, Matt Muir.

Thank you. Uh, Mark Roberts actually messaged me there the other day. You know, he's running in February in this enormous enormous— the American— he's not— yeah, it's not that one. It's the— or maybe it is. I think he's gonna be the first. It's Fuel by Fat is what he's calling us. Siberian Husky team, all raw fed. And he said, most of them are 75% kibble, 25% fat. He's going to be on all raw. And so he's going to analyze the hell out of them as he's doing it. So that'll be a really good talk to get him on after what he learned. One of the only Siberian husky teams in the world doing this, and then surely the only raw-fed one, you know. So he says when he gets to the events, he's a bit of a, of a show. People will turn up to look at what Siberian Huskies look like because they just have mutts. They don't have— they don't keep Siberian Huskies. So he uses the original. He's a real purist. But as a result, it's much harder work. It's not— you're not trying to win the race, you're trying to complete it, you know, because the mutts are, are used for a reason. They're, they're they're perfectly, perfectly bred for the situation, you know, and they're kind of a hybrid of all sorts of hounds, even a bit of a bit of greyhound, bit of husky, bit of all sorts.

So, you know, I'm reading some of the comments, mate. It's like one of your answers, parts of the body, toes.

Chicken toes, I tried to say. I couldn't get the words out. I'm gonna talk to chickens, I've told you. I'm sure they do.

And then they said, you've forgotten one of the vital question askers— your wife.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Thank you, Elaine. Thank you, Elaine.

Yeah, she was nervous. How did I do? How did I come across? It's like, Elaine, like, you've won 100 people. What are you talking about? Yeah, did you come across? Have you ever wondered that? You know, it's like, oh, just the video. And, uh, yeah, and then Fiona's been texting her now since. They've been texting each other, and Fiona sent her a picture of Fiona laying up on the screen, and she's like, oh, yeah, that's great. But yeah, anyway, that was good. And it was good meeting everyone afterwards as well, after all the games and stuff, when we were having a chat. And but even afterwards, we had a few drinks, a little drinks reception. That was fun. That was, uh, who did that?

Thank you, Vermex, for the Sponsoring that, what's that going to be?

We get to sit around chatting to everyone, and how cool is that? That's the best hour and a half of the day, really, getting to talk to everyone. And by 7 o'clock, then we're ushered out the door and off to, um, incredibly— I went to a Mexican restaurant, didn't we? And it was, uh, it was an experience.

So this is not the first time Nick has booked a restaurant for us guys, and we've looked at each other and gone Yeah, but it was good.

It was entertaining. It was entertaining.

I had to kill it. And who cares?

I'm glad to see that you're actually still alive after crawling on that floor, Conor.

Oh yeah, I never needed a wee so badly, uh, and I was trapped because the table was a rectangle, but there was too many people there and, uh, I couldn't get out. I was in a white shirt, but, uh, I had to get underneath the tables. There were benches, so like if it was chairs you could squirrel out between them, but I had to get under the table. And then I realized I was kind of stuck because it was benches, so I had to go through legs, you know, at the start of dinner. It's not that, you know, that sort of stuff is forgivable at 10 or 11 o'clock at night, but one of those— oh yeah, it was, uh, but I managed to keep my shirt clean, which I was very proud of. But, uh, that was great. It was a great night. I didn't want to go on Sunday. Didn't want to go. I just, uh, you can't beat it. It's good crack just sitting around talking to, talking to the gang. You can't beat it.

Yeah, so do you think you'd do it again? Too soon. It was too—

yeah, we put a huge amount of effort into that. Like, as much as we did— while we, we definitely made it clear on the day that, like, you know, it was amazing getting together and stuff, takes a lot of work to put that together. And I mean, Fiona took the absolute um, you know, yeah, of course. But even the small little things we put in, like even like you're shooting a video from calling people to their seats, right guys, you've 1 minute, let's go, you're going to your seats. All that pre-recorded stuff has to be done and thought out, uh, all the imagery, your talks, and promoting it took a lot of work. You know, you're constantly promoting it to get the bums on seats. Saturday is a tough time to get people there because a lot of our followers are small business owners, groomers, veterinary nurses, hard to get them out. And also we picked a city center where there's no car park spaces, and I just thought like these are little things you learned the first time. And but what we were aiming for was a thank you to our followers. Like, like, we didn't charge bugger all for the tickets, although people will think that. But listen, you know, half the money is spent on food and coffee alone. That's, that's why you don't get dinners at these things. But we put out food, coffee, biscuits all through the day, drinks for Steph. Like, all that is part of, uh, you know, we wanted it to be an experience as a thank you for people. So I think, I think we definitely achieved that. And so I feel great now. I feel great now about the other side, but I thought it was a lot of work. You know, you wouldn't do— it wouldn't be a— I found it quite a lot, but it's— I found— feel great now, this side.

And if we did it again, December is not the best time to do it. It's cold, people have got to travel when the weather's not good, and it's quite close to Christmas. You know, we deliberately picked it on the first weekend, but it's just getting into that, oh my God, we're so busy. So I think next summer, if we're going to do it at all, maybe, maybe Maybe, maybe next summer.

Ooh, a summer one. Summer, summer, summer, summer. Vegas. Great. Good idea, Nick.

Is offering— it's a summer barbecue. We're going to just go camping in a field. There'll be plenty of parking. It's like, no, let's go to Vegas.

Camping.

Yeah, camping.

Let's go camping.

Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

Jeep. Just put up a marquee for a couple of days.

Yeah, kind of like a Great British Bake Off, Great British Raw Off.

That'd be, uh, Brady can have a Winnebago. Yeah, and I will camp properly like a real man.

Yeah, under a piece of carpet.

And you guys be both about being natural, and I'll go, yeah, well, let us share a slab. Enjoy your natural scent. I'm off to put on my Baddidas or whatever it's called. What's that stuff you put in the bath? Baddidas?

Baddidas in the bath and Adidas body refresh spray on your armpits.

Really sorry to rage back, but if we're talking about summer camping, we ain't doing Scotland.

We're not getting bitten to death by midges Karen was eaten alive this year, eaten alive by these things.

That could be one of the points challenges.

Yeah, that's a good idea.

Who can survive outside for 30 seconds?

Those pictures of art, those pictures of army lads in the worst part of Scotland, wherever this is, with the midges. And the challenge is to take, take the mask off your face and stand there for a minute and try to take it for a minute. That's how many of them there is. But, and put them— I mean, he was in agony after 30 seconds. I think, by God, that doesn't sound like a summer. I'm sure that's only some parts of Scotland because I have never seen midges in Scotland. It's always been fine the times I've been there. There was quite a few Scottish people there actually on Saturday night. We're surrounded by Scots. Yeah, yeah, it was cool.

Yeah, Rach Mac.

Yeah, yeah.

Uh, Louise, she hails from Scotland.

Oh yeah, Fiona's a little reminder. We haven't even talked about Art Recreate yet.

Oh yes, that we need to put up those slides as well. I think we need to show them to people and show the effort that people went to. I'll create, I'll create a little video of the entries just to show what some people managed to achieve there. That was just cool.

It was spectacular.

OK, so we've got, we've got Lisa says, Martina said we've got to say hi to Martina from the USA. Yes, we've got something special for you. As you didn't make it over, but you did buy a ticket. What? I just— hats off to you. Yeah, thanks for the support. Um, and he said we should sponsor Las Vegas, would just be perfect.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, so we can arrange that for next—

yeah, next summer. Martina, PM us your, your address there, let us send you over a Christmas card. Um, we can— that's the least we can do. So, uh, do that.

Um, guys, don't post it on please just DM us.

Yeah, yeah, otherwise you'll get— yeah, that was the round-up. Yeah, I think, I think probably— would you do it again, Bren? Would you? What would you, what do you think?

I would. And we've got lots on next year. I think, you know, there's lots of projects we want to do, which is going to be great. I'm really looking forward to a lot of those. And I think, um, it's just fitting it in, isn't it? We need, we need a group of people. Let's Well, let's hats off to Fiona for what she did. I think she would even say there'd need to be a group of people that were set the task. So, you know, maybe we need a group of people to put themselves forward to sort of shepherd that one across the line.

I think Chris and Fiona. There you go. Done. I've just volunteered your wife. Fiona and Ellie. And Elaine. I'll get Elaine on side and she can do it.

Is that right? The four of them. Boys, the thing is, notice it takes one more of them to look after three of us.

It's like, yeah, if we go camping, everyone could bring their dogs.

They could.

Sold.

That'd be interesting.

Yeah, as you're talking, the dogs just be howling. No, we can't have that. No, sorry, Nick. Yeah, you mentioned you had your peacocks walking around, your cats and everything. It would just be an absolute—

I could bring my goats. Hey, yeah, a Bertie the alpaca stood next to Nick.

It'd be like, yeah, do you know, do you ever go to the dog shows? Do you ever get to dog shows when the dogs— yeah, and it's like, the problem with the dog shows is that they are always tight. It's always really busy, and they've got the rings, and then there's people with their tables, and there's hardly any space for the poor old dogs, and I always find the dogs are a little bit on edge in that situation. It's not the most— I mean, it's hardcore to put a dog into a situation where there could be another 1,500 dogs around. Do you not think so? I can only see Dudley having an absolute meltdown walking around the place, you know.

That's the thing, there are some dogs which would cope with it and there are other dogs which would just not be able to.

You don't have to bring your dog. I think that's it.

The table with you because there'll be 10 other dogs around it.

Yeah, yeah, massive St. Bernard walking across the tables just eating the chicken, you know. Yeah, still, it's not a bad idea actually. It's not bad, right? But let's see, we'll kick around and we'll see what people— let's see what the people come up with. Guys, make your recommendations in the comments below. That's what they say in these social media things. Uh, so yeah, make your comments below, guys, and let's see. Actually, additions, ideas for the next one them, uh, while it's fresh, you know. Obviously we couldn't improve on anything in that one, that was just the perfect show you're after receiving. So, uh, but if there's any ideas that you think you saw at other shows and things that we can, we can offer out, I mean, more, uh, all we're very interested in hearing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right guys, I think that's a, that's a decent 55 minutes. I think, yeah, good luck. Shorten it down, Pete. Well done. Yeah, so what's next week?

Uh, we have Lisa Hanson.

Oh, excellent. Very cool. To talk more—

everybody wanted more about, uh, hormones and neutering and the implications and just going into a little more detail. And so, uh, we— she is back by popular request.

So yeah, yeah, neutral alternatives.

Really good.

Yeah, cool. Sounds good. All right, that's cheers for that, chaps.

I think we're good. We're not going to do Patreon tonight, guys, because we've been doing a lot over the weekend.

Yeah, yeah.

But we do thank you very much.

There's going to be a few little video snips that will stick up, um, from the weekend that we probably won't make it to the final cut of, uh, so we're going to give you some extra snippets.

Okay, sounds brilliant. Cool. That's all right. Thank you.

Amazing.

Thanks a lot.

Take care, everybody.

Thank you.