USA a real state of affairs

This isn't being recorded. It is. Oh yeah, it is.

We're live.

Yeah, well, we're trying to, but at the moment we're just— we are on YouTube.

Oh right.

But right now we're just looking at— there we are. Now we're live also on Facebook. Hello everyone.

Did you say anything incriminating? Oh, let's talk about affairs and shit. I was making it up.

You see, you can't stop yourself from swearing, Pete. It takes exactly 2 minutes.

While we're talking about swearing, let's get straight into it.

Guys, we are in New Orleans and we've just come from San Diego, and we are going to be making our way north tomorrow. Okay, so that's kind of where we are. Yeah, we've just done the Feed Real Summit in San Diego for Ruby, and it was superb. We are very sad not to be going to Orlando, but there's a whacking great hurricane which is aiming for Orlando, and this state ain't big enough for the four of us.

So, is it Milton?

Milton or Murph?

Milton?

No, Hurricane Milton.

Swayed, sadly. Just don't start talking about White Stripes.

Yeah, it was, it was, it was— that was last night. We are in New Orleans, guys, so last night was an education.

It was an educational—

I mean, we know pubs because we're Irish and English, and we can, uh, we do the best pubs in the world. That's why we export them all around the world. We do. It's a fact. We know that lifestyle. But I have to say, New Orleans for me is probably, outside of our two islands, that's so far in the 24 hours we've been here, probably one of the best places I've ever gone out. That night last night was the best.

From actually arriving, getting in the taxi to go out. I mean, who orders an Uber and up rocks a huge So, well, it was a truck basically with party lights.

Lady Gaga, the loudest.

So it started off and the guy was acting really cool and there was going to be some cool music. A few tunes came on, it was fine, and then he said, no, no, you guys want to hear this. And Brady had jumped into the front seat thinking it was going to be super cool, you know, windows right down, okay, leaning out, cruising, cruising.

Water comes up. What's your favorite song? I didn't want to insult the dude, but I was kind of like, you look like the coolest dude I've ever met, and you put this on and you wouldn't turn it off. He's like, you know, like, I get out of the taxi, it's like, oh, okay.

Uh, so with this kind of party lights inside, everybody's looking at the disco party lights in the taxi.

3 very quiet heterosexual hippies climb the whole way down. I thought the Lady Gaga was No, shoot me in the face, listening to that crap.

You can't say that live. I mean, you already know. I'm sure it's true and you already know.

Lady Gaga is good in my book.

Okay, he doesn't like it. You're neutral. So San Diego, guys, impressions. Brent, what was your impressions of San Diego and Ruby's Feet Real Summit?

Oh, amazing.

I think, you know, you've got to say, a really slick team. Congratulations to Ruby and the team. Really slick. I mean, the venue they chose was just a bit of class. There was daylight that you could get to easily enough. The food was laid on. There was outside space. I mean, you could only do that in America, couldn't you? Because we try that in the UK and it'd be just raining all the time. To, you know, just having, you know, a group of speakers together, experience being able to chat to the delegates. All of that was great.

It was the best. It was really well. It was the, you know, it was so well run to meet Ruby and her husband Turk. You guys knocked it out of the park. Good man. And made you feel so welcome, and it was so well run. The staff were lovely. The girls that were working for them that we met, everything was beautiful. Yeah, but the location was definitely gorgeous, and the theater, the seats in the theater were like, you know, I don't get the posh seats in the cinema where it's like, you know, oh my God, this is the best seat ever. But that's the way the whole theater was, and it was crammed full of people. And it was, yeah, so just from the offset, started very early, and I was thinking nobody's going to be there. We rock up at half 7 in the morning, that's the start time. So for Irish and British were thinking, oh, half 7, you know, and it was big line.

But it worked because for everybody who was coming from the east to the west, yeah, it worked for me. The time zones, all of them, all of a sudden, because you were waking up between 4 and 5 in the morning.

Day 4, day 4, like I'm still waking up at 4, 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock this morning, and we didn't get in until— that's only 6 o'clock this morning because we've come back the other way. Yeah, because it was 4, I actually started my talk Nick had done this phenomenal talk. Nick opened the show and I ended it 2 days later and bookended us. And so Nick was kind of promoting this stuff, oh, let's hug everybody. And you guys don't know this about me yet, but I'm not mad on hugs. And so I played on that a little bit. And even this is agony, but try that at 4 o'clock in the morning when you've got jet lag, you've had too much. Yeah, yeah, but I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning. And then, so on the first night, you know, I actually thought I was talking on the first day, but I wasn't. So I had a few hours sleep. I'm up at 4 in the morning, come on, buddy, please go sleep. I have a whole day of this ahead of me, let's go. And I couldn't. And then I heard someone mooching around downstairs at half 4 in the morning. I thought, I bet you that's Nick. So I'm going out to the kitchen. So we're standing there in our jocks and it's like, you know, Nick's like, how are you, brother, good to see you. It was like, I was speaking to you a few hours ago. I don't need a hug, and he hugs me. And I was like, bare chest to bare chest at half 4 in the morning is not what I want to do to start my day. Nothing good is happening.

And it was happening with your wife?

Yeah, no problem with the male or female. Contact of nipples is fine. It's the repellent feel of male nipples is my problem. So I just get tangled. In fact, my whole talk is about entanglement if you think about it.

Oh, there you go.

You guys don't need to hear about this. We haven't started drinking yet.

This is very—

this is a sober conversation. Well, we're celebrating. How am I talking about this?

Okay, so we got to Saturday morning, Saturday morning, and it's 4:30, and I just hugged him, and he was very uncomfortable with that. He did take it like a man though, and I thought it was quite sweet actually. He'd only been in the country like 6 hours. But there we go. So we did that, and then we got to the venue, the Alexandria in San Diego. Very fabulous, fabulous, fabulous. And then I gave my speech, and I was absolutely terrified. Absolutely terrified.

Didn't seem that way.

I always get fairly nervous. Did you know that Elvis Presley vomited, so I'm told, before every event? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he said it enough times now that he believes it was true.

We just found something out about Nick, and Nick makes up facts and repeats them, and that is quite dangerous. But the Elvis thing is true, I think.

I think that's what I feel. Anyway, so I gave a talk, and the remarkable thing about the whole event was that there were, you know, maybe 300 really remarkable people, but the energy was that of 1,000 people, and it was so positive, and it was so happy and pleasurable. And just speaking to people at random, everybody was absolutely fantastic. So I found that I was opening it, and so I just gave a very simple talk. We talked about I called it dog math, okay? So for anybody in England, I really apologize because that's wrong. It should be maths, okay? As in mathematics, obviously. Mathematics is plural by definition. Yeah, but we could discuss that for quite a long time.

But I don't think we need to.

So it's called dog's math, dog math, and it was talking about what do we add, subtract, multiply, and divide in the dog's environment and the food environment for longevity. So that's basically it.

It's a nice angle, that. I like that.

Bless you.

Yeah, it was good. I like that as a starter, as an introductory. Well, it's a bit of everything.

I did think the copyright was already down to a certain singer who's done some albums around that whole—

actually, I'm not—

but no, he has, and I'm not gonna go through that.

Are you not talking about what's her name that sings songs about, um, what's the biggest—

no, no.

She does, she does, she calls it, all her albums have numbers on them. Yes, it's a she. Who are you thinking? Oh, he has an album with numbers as well.

No, divide. Oh, multiply.

Oh really?

Yeah.

No way.

Subconsciously, I think he works. Sorry, Ed.

Sorry, Ed. We should get him on the show.

I'm sure he's probably watching.

Working out how to sue us for the money we don't have.

Song ideas. I thought your opener, the opening of the show, was very interesting because when you came on, uh, do you want to tell people what you were wearing when you—

Oh, I was wearing kilt.

Yeah, yeah, I was wearing— I didn't tell us, I didn't tell us this was going to happen. I know, I hate him for this because usually those surprises are good and you don't say it to anybody. I just tell everyone my secrets and then it doesn't even surprise me. And you just come on, it's like, what's the crack with the dress? And it was an Irish person. But what was the pin? The pin had a harp on it, so he went with the Celtic color version.

It was the Irish national tartan, okay? And my story is that the kilt was invented by an Irish blacksmith about 200 years or so ago. I kid you not. And the idea was taken up by the Scottish, the regiments in the army, and then it's kind of been a Scottish thing ever since. But I believe, maybe wrong, maybe making it up, that it's an Irish blacksmith about 200 years ago was getting a bit sweaty and so he started wearing kilts.

Sure, yeah.

Okay, 300 years ago then, I don't know. But it was an Irishman.

It's a repeatable fact.

It was an Irishman.

Okay. Maybe we'll do a show on kilts next week and we'll try and wrap up around raw meatballs.

Haggis, lungs, and we can talk about spleen.

The fact that Scottish guard dogs were fed half of a lamb's head every day, that was their food until they took the kibble. Oh, boom!

That is very good. Yeah, that is really good.

Well, it's probably stopped because of spongy form and kept a lot of these.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, anyway, okay, so, so, so that's— yes, Saturday morning, uh, it was really well received. Thank you everybody. If If you're watching this and you were there, thank you very much. We had a lot of really positive feedback.

After you was Amy from K9 Creations, and that was just intimidating. It was like, first of all, no offense, Amy, I haven't spoken to you before and I wasn't aware, we haven't been in communication at all. I was like, who's this? These slides, first of all, her slides were beautiful and her presentation was so on the money. I mean, it was like the information was like I'm sitting there and I'm just learning for an hour.

And it was rapid.

Yeah, it was like so much. It was like, like, it's not that I couldn't handle it, but I was like, you suddenly realized that like back in the day, maybe when we started, well, I didn't start it off, you were doing it way before I was, but when you're doing these talks 10 years ago, you're talking to groups of people that have no nothing, and you're talking about feeding dogs real food and stuff It's just moved on from that, like light-years away. These conferences now, you need to be on your game producing very new and fresh information because everybody in the crowd is at least as clued in as you are about 95% of the stuff you thought you were really smart about, but they've already got that information. And so when Amy was giving that presentation, fair dues Amy, I sat beside you at dinner as well, I learned an awful lot, and she's K9 Creations, foods, food ranges, and her thoughts, like Matthew Murrow's talks, and like that same idea, phenomenal amount of thought to the range she does. So people understood it's not just like you're picking food off the shelf. She has designed those foods thinking about this idea. So fantastic. I really was impressed by her. So she came on after you, and that was a serious morning to start off the show. So that was, that was very good. Yeah. So there was a, it was a hell of an opener. And then lovely food at lunchtime.

Great food.

Yeah, it was lovely. A few more talks in the meantime. Who else can I think of? Angie's talk from CBD Dog Health.

I loved your line in your talk about, you know, you weren't worried about swearing.

Oh yeah, that's actually what I wanted to say at the start.

If you listen to her talk, if you get the opportunity, now I believe that they recorded the talks at Real Feed Institute.

Yes, absolutely.

Okay, so they'll have a source whether they're using them within their website website or whatever, but have a look, contact them, some of those talks may be available, but just, you know, if you are offended by the slightest Conorism, you're in the wrong place. Those that are offended have already left.

I was worried, yeah, she swears like a docker.

That was a classic.

I was worried, I wanted to introduce my talk was on the the science of connectivity between animals and people and stuff. And the first couple of minutes of these talks, for me anyway, that's the most important bit. Once I get that bit out, because you're nervous, you know, and particularly the more important it feels, you know, Habiba Becker's talk was just like, I don't need to tell you, you know, you're watching a movie and it's like, it is so good and everything's so and this, they've done it kind of 5 or 6 times, they've done this kind of show on the road, so it was so good, so much fun, and so to come after them is stressful. And so I was trying to think of a way to open my talk and try and wait to lead myself in that I could be calm. And initially I wanted to say to people, look, there's going to be a couple of curse words in here because of the way I was structuring the talk. I had to use the word dickhead a few times, and yeah, I don't kind of want to ruin it for people because I'm going to give you guys the talk at some stage, but And then I said, well, Habib, I noticed a curse word out of Habib. And then Angie came on, Angela Ardolino. No offense, Angie, your talk was superb. Superb talk. But then I noticed you had a curse word.

Tell us about the liver toxin.

So Angela Ardolino is from theatre, so she's done a bit of theatre at times. She met a lot of our staff from theatre as well. And so she obviously uses these guys and brings them in. She likes theatre people for some reason in her organization. They seem to be doing very well because she's killing it. And so she brings in— her staff are all switched on with this idea. So Angela's talking, she's explaining some high-end stuff, you know, and then she describes how the liver works beautifully by using a person. And she just said, Walter, up you come. And he was the guy that was— Carter, Carter, sorry, Carter.

Carter, you were great. We were going to see you this Saturday in Orlando, but we're not going to see you, but we will see you in May, in very soon.

Yeah, so Conor was a class act, born for the role of hosting. Yeah, so anyway, he comes on, he's to be the liver, so he's not like dressed like a liver, he's just dressed like Conor. And then so, and they said, okay, they bring out a bin and the bin has like a red bit, a white bit, and a blue bit in it, okay, kind of. And they come out with these table tennis balls on a tray and they're red, white, and blue, and they hand them to Conor. So Conor, you just pop the red bits in the red tray, white bits in the white tray, blue bits in the blue tray. In the blue tray. And he goes, okay, I can do that. And Angela is talking, it's so simple. Angela's talking, so this is how the liver teases apart the different tosses, processes things. And then every 20 seconds a new tray of things are coming in, he stacks them up like this. He goes, okay, I'll do them again. And she goes, and then you take a bit of stress or take your medicine and you've got a few more of these things coming in. Now the balls are coming quicker. So you're starting to get the guy. And it's like, okay, oh shit, now they've dropped a couple. He's okay, trying to press process them. And then he takes something like— insert medicine, better not say it just in case— but we all know it's an anti-itch device that is used, a chemical one that you wouldn't put on the mother-in-law. And so she gives him, kind of throws him this kind of larger ball, and there's nowhere for this to go because the liver doesn't process it. The gag is he has to hold on to it under his arm, and he's trying to process the balls, but he's a little bit hamstrung now. So it was such a simple way of showing if you put forever chemicals and heavy metals and all this shit that the liver can't deal with, you are going to hamstring how well it can, or slow down, whatever the term would be, how the liver can process. And then you give it different shaped things and they put in glyphosate and then you put in something else. And by the time the poor liver was all over the place. And so we get the guy, but to push it further, she had 3 or 4 people in the audience going, broccoli, broccoli, can you stand up? And we're like, what is she talking about? Someone gets up with a broccoli hat on or whatever, no problem, here I come. So, sulforaphane or whatever the thing was. And then some other antioxidants. This is what antioxidants do. It's like boom, boom, boom, they start helping with it, right? So it's like, it was a great 10-minute reprieve from heavy information because it's like, you know, like Rodney's slides, and it's, you put in that little bit of fluidity. His slides is funny, bit about Becker picking up this story, but I'm going to tell about Rodney's story. But like, Rodney's bit about when they arrive to see Bobby the dog in Portsville, the longest living dog, and they arrive there and there's all the town and the mayor and all the people are there. It's a big deal, it's a big day and whatever. And they just arrive and they get to just about to go up and say hello to everybody, and suddenly Karen Becker just sprints past Rodney somewhere because the dog's having a poo, and Karen wants—

with a file in her hand—

sprinting past to pick up the poo. And Rodney's like, oh, can you just say hello to everyone? Pick up the dog's poo. And so he had the image, it was just an image of like, you know, the way because Ronnie can do it, it was just a picture of her like this in the top corner. I like because Ronnie's, his style, his ability for visuals is second to none. That's why he's paid the big bucks. That is why he is good at what he does because it's just, you know, it's just so well presented. And it was a lesson. I was kind of watching his stuff kind of going, you know, how do you do that? And God bless Ronnie, he's like, dude, I'm gonna After this, we're going to sit down and I'm going to show you exactly how I do these slides. And he means he's going to sit there and give me all his time to show me how those slides, how you make movies out of, you know, basic stuff, how it's all coming.

And that's the thing, hasn't it? Presentations. So as vets, we're often used to going to conferences. It's very steady. You've got PowerPoint, you stand in front of an audience, you present effectively slides. Most people, the slides are just what they're speaking, just written out in words. Yeah. And it's just sort of like, almost like subtitles. Yeah. You're thinking, what? Things have moved on so much since then. It's now you've got to think about, now you've got to have relevant pictures and you listen to what the person's saying. That was the sort of next phase and you do that really well. Yes, you do. And then things— but coming to this conference, it was a real eye-opener that people almost have a movie running in the background that they're stood in front of as part of the soundtrack too. And have that— I mean, some of the things, even though they're on a slight loop and there's a little bit of a thing, as they're talking, the loop is almost feeding more information into what they say.

You need a lot of loop because you don't want it to be a movie or you'd be distracted with a movie. So it needs to be simplistic enough that the mind gets a bit of relief from looking at it, but it can't be that complicated that you switch off what the dude is trying to say and explain, you know. Even the images—

I did find it a bit distracting, Rob, this thing, because you're so focused on all of the stuff going on on screen.

Yeah.

And then the guy comes up to you and suddenly asks you a question while you're— you're trying to concentrate on what's happening on the stage.

Yeah, yeah. But even the way— even though I like the two of them, though, like, they're so good. Like, Rodney would walk around the room, he'd interact with people. It's like, that is a fast act.

It's like, cameraman hated it.

Yeah, yeah. He's just so lovely, and the two of them are just so lovely with each other. Everything you think about, like, you know, what you see on camera with some people, you wonder, like, is that kind of the way they are off camera? And I can tell you with those two, it's exactly like that. And they're like, because they've done it, they're kind of saying, hey guys, I'm giving us a couple of tips, because, you know, we're like, you know, it's not like we're at anywhere near this level of fame that these guys have. It's kind of a little bit crazy to the point that, like, you can kind of see it takes quite a toll. It's quite a lot because it's like, it's kind of, it's just a lot because afterwards everybody wants to talk, everybody wants a piece, you know, because this level of fame is, uh, it's quite a lot. Isn't it funny? It's just K9 Nutrition. 10 years ago we couldn't have gone putting 20 people in a room to now where we're being flown somewhere to talk. It's an honor. So it really was, it was good fun, but I felt the pressure. I have to say I was quite nervous at the start. And the first few words thankfully came out, but the thing that I had prepared didn't come out, so I went off in a different way. And that is chaos because then you're thinking, oh shit, how am I going to get back? Because you've got to talk.

The narrative. Yeah, how do I curve the narrative?

I've got to get back. But luckily it went well.

Do you know what? I was really appreciating how much, you know, Nick, you kicked it off, okay, and there was all of the stuff about the you know, the emotional part of that and the bookending with how you finished it off.

Yes.

With the same thing.

Wasn't that interesting? And we hadn't even spoken.

Yeah.

Resonance. No, that is resonance. Resonance. I can't wait to show everyone some of the stuff. Some of the studies were just unbelievable. And I took an idea from that you had done in Helsinki. I've told you this already. The nightmares I had after your talk was very good in Helsinki. And I didn't say it to you at the time, so I don't want to pass any confidence, which is part of my talk, you know. This is kind of an Irish thing, it's like, "God, that was shit, mate." Really what I'm thinking is, "Oh my God, that was so good." But yeah, the idea, what I took from you talking about Seakey was that, first of all, you didn't tell anybody anything. So I didn't tell you anything about what I was doing in this particular talk. You actually put out red herrings. And the second thing was, you said, "Would you like me to go a little bit deeper? Do you want to go deeper? Are you ready?" So I put up some slides.

Sorry, what was that going to be?

Oh, sorry. In Helsinki, what you said was, you said like, you presented a kind of a study and you wanted to show even more. You wanted to show like, you know, the X-ray of the hand. You couldn't show that first because people will go, bullshit, there's no way. Whereas if you show the science first, then you— so when I'm talking about resonance and connectivity between people, outside of, you know, outside of oxytocin and hormones and stuff, which I pitched in the first bit. I wanted to keep moving up further and further away. How much can we stay in contact? How far away? That's why I did near and then far away. But 5% of the far away stuff is as far as— but if I presented the far away stuff at the start, people will go, bullshit. I got that from you. You said, and you kind of said, would you like a bit more? And it's like, people are going, hell yeah, I want a bit more. And I said, well, here's what we know about people. You know, mothers in the same room can affect the heart rate of their babies. Horse and jockeys. Yeah. You know, all the animals that use electromagnetism. I mean, every animal— platypuses and sharks and pigeons and bloody every animal can do it. And then the mother stuff and the human horse thing, we're all doing it. But how far does that go? I love twins. The twins bit was brilliant.

And then entanglement. And then it actually even got into Einsteinian Entanglement, which is absolutely fantastic.

And then everybody knew about it. I was like, I thought it was like, sometimes you get into a rabbit hole and you think, oh my God, I can't wait to tell you all about this. And also feel a bit great that you didn't know about this. But Bren's like chatting to people at my talk afterwards, it was like, I didn't know what you were talking about. And I was like, that's what I meant. As long as there's no other human barrier. We're going to get her on the show. 'Oh my God, Barry, the vet.' She goes, 'I am the quantum biologist that lectures on this.' And I'm like, 'Oh my God.' So when she started talking, Brad was like engaging with her willingly because his tail was wagging. I was like, 'Oh,' I felt like I was right at the edge of what I could possibly know.

She was talking wonderful things about effectively programming stem cells and then using the frequency of laser to actually guide the stem cells to the area to be treated.

So yeah, it's just, it's just, uh, so yeah, well, I got the whole structure from that talk. That was, uh, that was, that was from you. So thankfully it went, uh, it went well. So I was very happy. I was very relieved because I was a little bit worried. It was a bit different, you know what I mean?

I wonder what it was.

It went actually well, and it was hilarious. Yeah, so if there is a recording then I would say that's probably—

I'm going to release a song on Valentine's Day. Wouldn't that be good? It's called "Love." "The Power of Love." "The Power of Love." "The Power of Love." That would make a good song.

"The Science of Country Music." Unfortunately, I've already used it on the post that I put up today.

Ed, if Ed's still listening— Yeah, I hear Fred too.

"The Power of Love." Okay, boys, I'm going to bring you— focus you back down and just say, right, you are allowed to mention one person who you met this weekend who is extraordinary. Um, Fred, where would you—

oh, that's so nice. It's difficult.

Okay, so I already knew Ruby, so yeah, I was terribly impressed with Ruby and Turk. Ruby and Turk? Ruby runs the studio.

Yeah, we're not just saying that.

Yeah, I'm not just saying that, yeah, because she's just a class act. Yeah, just very cool and collected, and I'm like very— I was very impressed by that because if I was running the show, I would be, uh, you know, in and out. Hysterical. Yeah, and, uh, so Turk and herself are very cool, but that's too easy because I would say another one, I'd never met Kimberly Gauthier before, and she was kind of somebody that you talk to now and again online and stuff, you know, because she was kind of running the Q&A. And I just thought, what a class, you know, she just comes along and she just runs it, not a bother. And she was great fun. And so I think between those girls that I had not mentioned before, that I had not met in person, hadn't met Ruby, hadn't met Kimberly, but just actually meet them in person, you know, like when you kind of bump into someone that you only talk to on social media, and then it's like 'Ah, there you are in real life.' Uh, all lovely. There wasn't a bloody, you know, every single person that I met that I've talked on social media, I was just so terribly impressed by. Angela Ardolino as well, I haven't met her before. It was just the best gang of people. So I've just covered everybody now.

That's why I said it wasn't fair.

There were so many of one person that I think singling out a single person might be hard.

I'd love to say, just also, just to disentangle for a moment because there's so many niches. And Rodney and Karen sort of said this about how each page is effectively a split of the last one and that we've multiplied. And isn't it great there's loads of different communities, but they all have a slight nuance to how they do things. And actually seeing from the outside, because this is, you know, us visiting the States and seeing a lot of these people together, there is a lot of almost animosity between certain groups. And actually, you know what, there is more that holds you all together than there is that separates you. And I would really say, you know, if there's just that one thing, take a breath, yeah, stick it to one side, give each other a hug, you're all okay. And just, you know, accept we're not all the same, yeah. And you will have arguments. We have arguments, yeah, yeah, we get pissed off with each other very rarely, yeah, but occasionally we do. I put that to one side.

Yeah, yeah, Ben's got some bunnies he wants to boil.

I put that to one side and I still drove you around everywhere in California.

I just gotta do a big shout out to say Bren has been looking after us. We was talking and so we were like, our brains were in another place, and Bren and Chris have been superb. So I just want to officially say thank you very, very, very much.

Well, everyone, like, even like, you know, we were home before I came on. Okay, Rita was just looking after me, she knew I was stressed and a bit before the talk. And you're sitting in the corner beforehand, like you can't even think, you're just getting ready for the event, it's like you're about to be sentenced to death. And they're just waiting for that name, Dr. Conor Brady, I'm like, oh shit. So you're sitting there and Rita comes up and, you know, I adore Rita, everyone loves Rita.

She is fabulous.

And Heather, her partner.

I love Heather.

So like everybody knows her, that would be an easy one to start with. Every single— but Rita comes up just giving me a big hug. Piece of paper and it was just like, just breathe a little bit harder. And I just thought like, it was so nice. I was like, oh, it didn't help me stress at all.

Yeah, absolutely.

But what about you? I mean, I know who you're going to say, so I didn't say it because I know who you're going to say. Okay, bless you.

Okay, so Brendan is a consummate politician because I asked him one question and he gave me A completely different answer. Okay, and Conor is the same. I have said one person and he mentions my name. Okay, so that's really funny, and that's maybe why this thing works, because we never stick to any given script. So, but I'm going to do a big shout out to a guy called Lee Carroll. Now, he is the most elegant Australian I've ever met. Okay, I've met a lot of Australians. A) But he is an encyclopedia of knowledge about herbs and in particular mushrooms. And even more so, he is the nicest guy. He has a simpatico. He is communicative. He is relaxed. He is a gentle guy, and I feel Really, really, really very grateful to have met him. And we've asked him to come onto the show, so he's going to be on the show soon. So you'll be able to—

Real Mushrooms, the same as Rob Silver.

So if you want to look back to our video with Rob Silver back from March time, we did a whole thing on mushrooms, same company. And Rob Silver even gives him a shout out in that. Because he learned a lot from Lee Carroll.

Lee Carroll, brain the size of a planet, and most of it's filled with mushrooms.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, love your rhythm. Like, after the day one, you know, you do a lot of talking after, you meet a lot of people and stuff, and you do need to decompress for 2 or 3 hours after that. And so we went out to about this house that we had in San Diego. San Diego, first of all, if you live there, what a city. Yeah, what a cool laid back, and we were right on the side of the hill overlooking everything, and the house was gorgeous. And, uh, we just sit out the back and, you know, this, uh, Rita and whoever else was around, we brought back about 10, 12, and we were sitting there and Lee was there. And, uh, just how quickly and easily, uh, you know, your gang just kind of increases by 1 or 2 every time, doesn't it? The tribe kind of increases. It's great. Now you'd be like, anywhere you go, it's like, oh, Lee, you want to come along? Lovely with it, just dead cool. But like like you're saying, Brent, back to your point, like we're all into the same thing, we're all on the same team, and there can be quite a lot of catanists in the dog community. There really is. And we, I think we try to stay out of all of it. I certainly do. I'm repulsed by it all. I don't want anything to do with any of this in-house bickering. But it's like, guys, this is a very now rising tide for natural dog health, and it's rising, and there's plenty of space for all of us. And We've all got different opinions on things, and who gives a shit? Who cares? We're all just learning. I agree with some bits, I don't agree with other things. That's great. Okay. But so when you actually meet the people, every single one of them, I would— I want to have a beer with.

Massive, massive sense of unity, which I think is, you know, in this very polarized world that we live in, to come to an event where 300 people are all putting aside the ego, putting aside their differences, at saying, this is what we love, let's share that. Yeah, I think it's really, really powerful.

Yeah, very good. And so what are we— we were supposed to be going to Judy Morgan's in 3 or 4 days.

However, Milton sterilized that.

Absolutely he did. What a shock, what a shock for them. I mean, that is serious, serious pressure for us. He's in the background here. What's going on? This is like the BBC. That's the BBC presenter when his kids walk in and he drags the kids out. What's going on, baby? I'm just saying, is Eddie reaching for the bottle of rum?

What you can't see behind the camera.

Anyway, so first of all, you know, so sorry for the Morgan team that that happened to you guys because, you know, as discombobulated as everybody else would be—

Oh, right, there you go. We've been using that word a lot just for some reason.

But you know, everyone's put out by it. But like, I'll tell you, the most important people that are going to be put out by it are the people in the front of this bloody storm. There's people who's, you know, from the minimum, your roof is going to get taken off and you can't afford to replace it, to the maximum of people can be harmed. 260 people in that last hurricane were killed in the US only a few weeks ago. 260 people! It's a whole plane load of people. So it's like, this is— they're real issues. So to talk about But still, the fact that the amount of effort that the Morrisons put into it— this was going to be a huge show. You're talking 450 people. I have no idea what that feels like. I would say it'd be quite intimidating. So, but anyway, so to organize that and then all the vendors and then all the people, the logistics of running a show is horrific. And so their team have been up to 90 and then dealing with all of us and get us all there. And the cost, a lot of money will be left on the table there. I'm trying to shift it again is unbelievable. So sincere, heartfelt— what's the word— to the Morgans. Sympathy.

It was just massive sympathy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't imagine what it would be like to try and organize something, something that big. Yeah, think about your wedding and multiply that by about 100. That's how much organization goes into these things. And to have that just stolen by Hurricane Milton is devastating. So Judy, Gwen, you guys, our hearts go out to you.

And you know, lots of stuff for us to think about, reorganization. It'll be great. I think they've released the dates for the 13th and 14th of May. Yes, they're going to re-host this event in the same place in Orlando. We hope to join them. Obviously there's lots of sorting out of schedules and things like that to make sure that works. Will be hopefully calling up on the team at some point. But we've also— therefore it's left us in a scratch, so we've got a wonderful map. We should have had the map actually. I'll show you our notes on a t-shirt.

Not quite written on a beer mat, but there you go. This is our plan so far. This is how our minds work, by the way, after a night out in New Orleans. There you go. This is so far our dream plan. We can't tell you it at the moment because we don't want to commit verbally to what we're doing, but like we're trying to think, okay, listen, while we're here, you know, so I think we're scratching a hurricane down on the bottom part of our map on the back of the t-shirts, and we're doing a red line scratch back up through.

So we are flashing east as planned. We're going to do a little bit of recording with Will Harris I hope so. White Oak Pastures. So that's to the east of us. And hopefully not get blown away. Well, no, maybe get blown away mentally. And then we are going to— are you going to hold it up?

Check out these t-shirts we had. And a lot of people were wearing them. And the quality of that, by the way, is absolutely awesome. RPM USA done in absolutely groovy colors. Check that out. And then the back, we didn't quite get to Orlando. We'll have to change that map with a marker or something. But we had a— we're gonna—

we're gonna get this, guys. If you hold that up while you sit there, we should get a red— a red mark. So we're gonna do— yeah, effectively we'll do hurricane path across here and we'll do a scratch up with a red line going up. So, so bear in mind, we put a shout out. If you're interested, keep an eye out over the next few days. We'll be doing some impromptu presences at various places.

Yeah, drop-ins.

Yeah, drop-ins.

Nothing is guaranteed, okay, because it's all fluid, because we don't really know what on earth we're going to be doing.

I don't want to leave New Orleans, by the way.

So if you live in New Orleans, you might still find Gareth here in 10 days' time.

I want to go back to that bar. I want to live there. Last night was just unbelievable.

It was. We got literally— sorry, we didn't finish that story. No, we got literally 2 50 yards down the road, found the first bar, went in, never came out.

That's like 6 hours later, it was just— well, 8 hours later. But like, the band, like, they're so tight. Like, the drummer was so unbelievable, the bass player was so good, the singer was on the keyboard, and the saxophonist was just like something off the telly. He was so cool.

Did he win a Grammy?

Is he not serious?

Did you go hear him?

No!

Yes! He was!

Wow. So they were—

yeah, the keyboard player was introducing them all as to where they were coming back from.

Oh my God, because I said to him, he looked like Lenny Kravitz, Lenny Kravitz with an electric blue blade. And I was like, you are the coolest human being I've ever seen. And he was like, thanks, man. And I was like, you're just amazing. Thanks, man. And then I didn't know what else to say. I was like, I was so impressed.

So impressed. The way that Conor got up to the front was he did a shout out to everybody with a birthday, okay? And all of a sudden Connor was thrust up to the front. And that's his birthday, and everyone wants to see his birthday.

It's not my birthday! Oh, everyone goes, "Go for food, it's your birthday!" I said, "I don't want to go for food, it's not my birthday!" Happy birthday to you! And then, do you know what else has happened to the band? Because New Orleans is very open, the bars are very open, you can kind of walk in and out, it's very cool, there's no door fees and stuff, you know. So the band is there, so suddenly a second saxophone comes in and hops up on the stage and starts playing. On par with this dude, although that first dude was really the best I've ever seen. And then this other dude starts playing, and then the guitarist will change, and it was like the band was so fluid. It was just like, it is just true jazz. It really was. It was so cool. And the drummer was so—

not that they were playing jazz, but they were truly in the right place.

So I've got a mate, he's called Badger, he's probably not watching this, but he says, from Northern Ireland, so I'm going to butcher the Northern Irish, and he says there are two types of jazz and they're both shite.

I hope my cousin's not watching this because he is an eminent jazz player and singer.

90% of people will resonate with that. Sometimes you can get jazz cool jazz when it doesn't have a tempo, like for dopes like myself. Like, I just like standard rock and roll beats, 4-bar blues. And so if jazz has a beat, I am all for it, you know. But if it goes off and it's— it's like music.

Was that something underwater?

No, no, on a flute. It's like jazz flute. It's like, I think I'll wait. I like rock and roll set up and I want a basic rhythm. Action. I'm 4 or 5 people saying, you know, on his clarinet. Anyway, okay guys, I'm going—

we're going to scratch— we're going to go north. There'll be a few impromptu visits to call you in, and then north. If we carry on going east, we'll be swimming home.

Anyway, the drive— I'm really looking forward to the drive. The drive tomorrow is 6 or 7 hours.

So if you see some weird Winnipegger rocking along as it goes up these country lanes, then it might be us.

Yeah, absolutely.

We should build a big RV. I want a dog one.

I want one that's like a double door wrapped like a dog. I love dogs. And I want the horn to go—

So I come with sleeping bags in the ears.

Very cool.

Okay, I'm going to end this on the way Joe Rogan often interrupts his podcast and just say, I'm absolutely dying for a wee.

He does say that.

And so I'm going to say we are in New Orleans. We are having the most incredible time. We come from San Diego. Thank you to Ruby and Turk and the team. We are not going to Orlando because of Hurricane Milton. But we are Raw Pet Medics and we are having a whale of a time in the US of A.

How lucky are we? Feeling blessed, as they say. Just loving this. So, and thanks to everybody, you know, all you guys as well. So it's been—

oh, the amount of people have come up to us and shared with us, recognized us from America. It's been amazing. It's amazing.

We watch you every week. It's like, I still think— do you?

What's wrong with you?

You need to get a life.

That's what the woman just said, like, you know, how do you come up with this information every single week? And I was like, it just honestly, sometimes it's about 5 minutes beforehand, you know, it's like, because we have so— this is just a bottomless pit of interest, and it's just cool to be among nerds that think the same thing, because you can't turn around to your friends and talk about dog food. They're like, would you stop talking about dog food? But then when you're among people that care about health and food, it's just awesome. I'm fizzing with ideas.

I'm starting to feel a little No, I think. When the lights go out, you'll know what's happening.

Then the lights go down.

So look, guys, this will probably do it next. We don't even know what we're doing next. Talk to you as we think of things.

Yeah, well, we're heading. Heading towards Atlanta. So anybody out There in Atlanta, you want to sort of let us know because that's going to be within the next 2 days.

Aren't we going to Will Harris tomorrow?

Yes, we are, but it's right on the doorstep, so Blufftown.

Okay, okay, okay.

Going to say the big cities.

We will announce.

Thank God Brent knows what he's doing, because I don't.

Be careful, Roy, as they say. Point me in the direction. But, um, so look, anyway, guys, look, we will talk to you. We probably— we're going to have to shoot something live from Will's place, but we'll probably record it on tape. Record it, yeah, and post it.

And as we go up north, there'll be various places, so you're going to see some really interesting stuff.

Yeah, let's hope.

Guys, can you make sure you're dressed in the morning?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As I proved this morning.

Yeah, I'm still scrubbing the back of my eyeball.

I hope to wrap it up. I hope everyone's safe in Orlando and/or in Florida. Keep your head down and that's the most important bit and the rest is incidental, as my dad says. The rest is totally irrelevant to the fact that everyone keeps safe and happy and healthy and that's the main thing and we'll get through this virus. But until then, we will see you on the next one.

Oh, and don't forget, if you want to see a little bit more about what we're doing over this week and you want to see some of those posts, you've probably seen them first when you look on patreon.com/rawpetmedics, and you'll be able to take part in some conversations. You might even see where we're at early if you join us there. So subscribe. And obviously we're also going to be releasing some of this stuff on our podcast, so you're going to hear some stuff, some interesting conversations. I'm not sure how much of the conversation in the breakfast cafe this morning is going to be Let's go re-editing.

Scratch.

Will you please stop arguing?

As they say, it's a return of flamethrower. We had one latte take at the Trinkie Hut this morning, for breakfast, sorry, she's definitely not. A Bloody Mary, a bacon-flavored Bloody Mary, and I'll say again, Oh, I want to be in the US. You don't have bacon in your morning drink. I said, first of all, I was like, and French beans. I have to try it. And you try it. It was, it was interesting. It was, uh, you didn't try them.

They should be cheese.

Yeah, yeah, definitely did try them.

There was an olive, there was French beans. Oh my God, you tried the drink. Yeah, it was a Bloody Mary added with the obvious green beans and bacon. Yeah, green beans and bacon. It made it a true cold soup.

And a lot of chili. And I was like, yeah, I have to say it rejuvenated me. And, uh, but it does kind of start to taste like an ointment.

Out there, there is a recording of the facial expressions of Brady first trying the drink.

I'll just chop that out. That was interesting. All right guys, on to the next thing. So yeah, okay, brilliant.

Until the next time, guys.

Yeah, see you all.

We'll see you later. See you, chat.