57: Allow, Accept, & Let Go With Ivan Rados

The people that listen to the Drew and you show are absolutely going to love what you have to say. It's a really high level, you guys. One of my first mentors ever, Stuart Wild, was. I read all his works. Neville Goddard. And then Ivan is. He's a whole nother level of a human. And you can just hear it in his voice, feel it in your heart when he speaks in this short interview. And just really let it resonate. Because where we're headed as a species, as humans at this time, humans 2.0, whatever we want to call, is about clearing that mind, chatter, that monkey mind, and coming back to you, the real you. And Ivan's going to help us with that today. So, brother, I am just excited to have you on. This is awesome.

I am blessed being with you, brother.

Yes. Yeah. So give me the backstory. How did you get into this? I know for four or five years you went into the no mind state. I heard that in one of your interviews. But who was Ivan as a boy growing up, did you experience any trauma? Was there any events that happened in your life that sparked this awakening? And now you're one of the greatest meditation teachers on the planet. I mean, there's. There's a lot to fill in here. So just. Just let's rock and roll. Let's see what we. Where we can go with this.

It's like, oh, God.

You know, you see, I have memories, you know, and the difference between me and everyone else is I'm not attached to my memories because I'm not creating my future out of my memories. And you see, I already said thank you to my past and I moved on. And that happened 10 years ago. More than that, you know, but, you know, going back to my memory without being attached to it, you know, I can say that, you know, I was raised in former Yugoslavia in Bosnia, in town called Trawnik. And the country was socialist, communist, a little bit liberal, more than Soviet Union. So we could travel, we could express ourselves, but, you know.

We were apparently free. You know, apparently like everyone else is apparently free at the moment, you see. So I was raised by, you know, dysfunctional father and mother. I mean, unconscious mother and father. You know, I was never accepted, never loved. I was beaten every single day, me and my sister, by my mother who was devoted, you know, Orthodox, Catholic, you know, following a Jesuit saint called Saint Peter Barbaridge, who died from tuberculosis when he was young, 18 year old in some gymnasium, studying to, you know, to create the social engineering around the world. And very cruel, you know, Jesuit Order, very cruel, very sneaky, with no emotions, just cruelty and perception of domination, you know. So following that, my mother would go to famous, you know, that saint, Saint Beveridge, who died, 18 year old from tuberculosis, as I said. And apparently he didn't perform any miracles. But after he died, you know, people start seeing things and experiencing changes in their, whatever perception of self and, and diseases. And the, you know, the graveyard of that famous saint was just a couple of blocks from my house. And my mother would go every week there and walk around the grave, you know, and not just her hundreds of people on their bare knees. And she would come and not walk for three days bleeding and all of that she was doing because she was so unhappy with my father who was alcoholic.

Who would be with us for a couple of days and disappear out of blue. But he was a very prominent, you know, man in our town. So, you know, he would go and spend 10 days out and come back and have arguments with my mother and we would pay the price, me and my sister. So I was raised in that dysfunctional family and never being acknowledged, never being loved, never being seen. So I had, I had. I created two realities. One reality is going to my own mind, you know, and try to understand and try to draw, try to express. So I was drawing lots of triangles and squares. I was, I was at the school, you know, either at school, at my home, I would draw, I would paint all these circle squares, triangles, spacecrafts, strange, strange things. You know. One day my art teacher called my mom and said that, you know, I should be psychologically examined because I created, I painted black sun and some kind of structures. And they asked me where that was. I said, you know, planet Sothis in Sirius constellation. And they said, they called my mom. And mom, you know, beat me out of hell and beat me with father's belt. So the other reality I created to, in a way, you know, to escape reality was to be outside, just nature. And I was very wild. I was, I was with no fear at all, you know, climbing the trees and you know, jumping the rivers, swimming the rivers and jumping from stone to stone. It's just like hurting myself all the time. Almost died so many times, times. But that unhappiness and that reality, it's like a love wilderness. I love that freedom. I love the nature. I love connecting to nature. So like reminding myself of my own power within and my other aspect, my other reality. Drawing and expressing and learning and acquiring not from others. Because I failed all the exams in my schools. I mean, I was good at the beginning, you know, three grades, fourth grades. And I dropped, start dropping, because then I went deep into art. I was not interested in, you know, learning mathematics. I was drawing the geometry. So at one point, I just.

Got a book, very interesting book. Astral Projection by Barbara Brennan, I think. Yeah, I was age. I'd say 13, 14, and geometry and how to lift your astral body. And I did it. I did it after three nights of practice. Visualizing the diamond spinning and getting bigger and bigger. And you. You put yourself into the diamond, and then you start spinning. And I invented something like, you know, in my own mind, some other way of spin and moving. And then I was there, floating on my ceiling, and I could see my body and I. I can look at the sky and wow, it's a cosmos in absolute gorgeousness and all kinds of beings and. And. And. And it's like invitation, you know, it's like, come and explore. And I look at my body and look at that reality where invitation with goodness to explore my own psyche. And at that moment of my wanting to choose what to choose, one thought came to my mind. I could remember that vividly. And the thought was, what if? And then I was immediately in my body.

Got out of it. And that set up a path for me to really explore this unknown, you know, not just to lift my body and go into the cosmos and explore. It's like Disneyland, you see? But no, the power. What. What's the power? Because I felt totally separated from myself, you know, totally hurt from. From surrounding. Trying to find my way out, but could not, you know, yes, I was in the wilderness, but that was an excuse, you know, that was just a band aid, you know, it was not real healing. It was, in a way, just waiting for the real healing. But the real healing happens when I decided not to go away from my family, but realized that they helped me to seek myself and search myself. Because I. I spent the rest of my life through my art, learning about myself. And my art becomes my spirituality. I become famous artist in former Yugoslavia. I went to England. The war happened in my country, so I established myself as an artist there. So lots of galleries and museums, national museums around Europe, they own my art, you know. So I become famous. My ego went up, but, you know, that was my path. And one day I just realized that everything that I, you know, experienced was, you know, everything that I am at the moment and who I am at the moment. Thank you to my unconscious father and mother, you know, and that dysfunctionality there of the system and the country and Family and the unit, because they pushed me to really grow. They pushed me to really seek myself. I could be my, like my father and die from alcohol. I could be like my mother and be cruel to my kid. You know, I. I could. It's predicament. 99% of people are doing that. You know, that's kind of tradition in a way, unconscious tradition. So, yeah, so many things I explored. Many, many, many things I experienced. Like, it seems like I had fun five or six life times in this life. It's like, I've been famous actor, I've been doing theaters. I've been artist, I've been a healer, I've been a cleaner cleaning buildings. I've been just trying to kill my ego, trying to stop my mind. You know, I've been in monastery for three years, Francisco monasteries, painting frescoes in churches. And then I've seen that order and I've seen how corrupted everything was. I become a Buddhist and I've seen the Buddhism being totally, absolutely out of what Buddha nature is. I've seen. I've been tantric all my life. And, you know, and studying Zen and doing healing and understanding distance healing. And.

I went into plant medicine as well. So I've been. I had a call to. To run ceremonies and. And help people navigate through the psyche, meaning the soul, not the mind soul. Of course, you have to travel through the mind in. To understand the soul and travel through the soul. So at the end, I just, like, at the end of my journey, I realized, oh, this is not the end. There's so many things because Covid strikes and then everything starts changing. So, yeah, the life is absolute change. So I'm here changing myself and doing what I have to do. Brother.

Well, I got to tell you, my friend, you have lived a remarkable life thus far. And I love how many different roles you've played, how many people you've impacted in your life. You definitely changed mine with your writing and your consciousness that you're putting into these books.

And also, I can really relate to what you said about your upbringing. I was tortured as a kid. You know, the memories of it. And I've moved past the memories now it's just a choice to use the stories to help other people when I can. Right. I'm not stuck in it or marred in it like you said, which I think a lot of people do. They hold on to those wounds. They hold on to the trauma in their body. And we have a bunch of adolescent children that are disguised as adults running our governments, running these huge corpor and I think that puts us. It's interesting to watch the whole apparition, as Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas, the illusion, the great illusion or the matrix that you and I are in. And it's fun to be an artist, it's fun to be co creating with you at this time, knowing that through our consciousness, not our mind, because there's a very difference. And I want you to explain that to our people. You are the artist of your life. You can create anything in any moment. And that's the biggest blessing of all, is waking up in that and being the witness of your thoughts, not attached to them, not attached to your memory. Explain that a little bit more because I know you're, as a meditation teacher, as your sacred geometry book to transform people's lives. You go into that in great detail and I want people to feel that.

So what is, what is, what is healing? Let's, let's, let's start from the healing. What is healing? You know the words and you read the book.

Yeah.

You know, health is all about consciousness, the words, holism, healing. Holy comes from the word whole, the whole to be the whole. So what is the wholeness? It's all together. Together in oneness.

Yeah.

And oneness is nothingness. It does not contain any essence. The essences awareness of it. So God is awareness, awareness that I am not the thought of it, not the feel of it, but awareness of it. So out of awareness comes consciousness, because consciousness is the movement of awareness. If awareness wants to know itself, it needs to express itself, it needs to reflect itself. So for example, in sacred geometry, you have a white canvas, you know you want to paint. What do you do? You know, you can have a concept or you can just go into unknown and express what first dot. And then you move out in all kinds of directions and ways and creating, creating something, some structure, some understanding, some movement which brings a reflection. It's like a reflective aspect where you can see that you can be conscious of. So awareness is the primordial. Consciousness is the expression of that primordial, like the universe being born. So consciousness can be unconsciousness. And that's where the duality is, you see. So I cannot be conscious. I have to be conscious of you, because that's what it is. And when I'm conscious of you, I have to be conscious of myself. And that's the perfect way for awareness to express itself through consciousness. But the problem is the social mind jumping into that equation and blocking consciousness to include itself into what the consciousness is being conscious of, you see? So the mind is nothing else than the social indoctrination, social adjustment, social, Social consensus, reality. Call it, you know, we all agree that's the reality. And what's the reality that the mind creates? It's nothing else than bunch of thoughts that we all accept and include in our structure of mind. Yeah, you know, and then we follow and we protect and we promote, you see, so. And we live in this reality right now. It's a artificially created reality because. You understand me, brother?

I hear you. The collective, the collective mind, the collective thoughts has created the reality in which we're existing. And we continue to perpetuate these things that we've realized aren't working in our collective experience, but they continue to perpetuate because of the momentum that we built with the false thinking or what we would call the mortal mind.

Right, exactly. But the problem is attachment to it, you know, because consciousness, Consciousness is the energy, brother. It's the power. Consciousness that I am not, as I said, not the thought of it, not the feel of it, but the knowingness of it. I know. How do I know? I don't know, but I know. I know I can use my senses, I can use my mind to think about it. But beyond my mind and my senses and all these expressions and tools, I know.

Yes.

So I am alive. That's the first sign I'm alive. Rare right now. I can see, I can hear, I can think. Wow. Okay. So that's what consciousness is. You see, the mind is the thought of it which is the past or the future. And every past in the future is your attachment, nothing else. So you're attached to certain structure that you hold and you cannot really let go of that. But that structure is created by other people as well, because everyone is giving you thoughts. Everyone. You have one thought, I have one thought. We have the same thought, we think in different. In different vibration.

Yeah.

So the consciousness is the energy, mind is the frequency and the thoughts are the vibration. And what kind of vibration? You vibrate, that's what kind of reality you create. So imagine the. Imagine the. Imagine the baboo, you know, or the, you know, tube wholeness on one side and you on the other. In this reality there is a movement, there is energy, there is an inter relatedness. Uh huh. And imagine the thought there and bunch of thoughts in clogging the entrance. You are not, you know, connected to the wholeness. The mind immediately create the bubble in that wholeness and claiming the property of it. So the mind is not yours, has never been yours. It is social so in that social attachments we are not. And that's separation. Separation brings suffering and suffering brings diseases. And you are not with your own health, you are not with your own self. You are not aware of your own power within. You gave your energy and power to that social who created the reality for you. And you participate with your own experiences and maintaining it with your past and maintaining it with projection in the future.

Yes, I see it all. And I love the how quantum physics and quantum mechanics relates to everything that you're saying. And it's been scientifically proven.

Now finally they, finally they, they are making me not mad. Yeah, crazy.

You see, and it's in line with like the ancient hermetic teachings as well, of like the Cabalian and the initiates of ancient Egypt of the fourth dimension, which is the mental realm, creates the third dimension, which is the material physical realm, and then the fifth, the supernatural realm. You know, it's. It's all created through this. So right now, at this moment in time, how do we shift the perpetual momentum that this false mind, this virus, this mind virus that has seemed to, you know, crept into humanity? How do we as healers, you know, as witnesses, start to shift and change and wake up humanity at this time?

Brother, can you do anything? Can you go and persuade someone not to take vaccine or whatever?

No, no, no. Yeah, that's a great, great question.

Can you, can you ignore. Can you ignore people going voluntarily to that, you know, to inject themselves with something, they don't know what that is?

No, I've tried.

No, you tried. So, yeah. Can you really do anything?

All I can do is work on.

This guy, and that's called neutrality. You have to be neutral. Neutral to everything that's happening outside, because it's not you, has never been you, and it's in transition. Yes, you are in the change. You are the change. But what's changing there, it's not you because it's outside the reality. You have to change yourself. You have to change your perception of self. You have to include yourself in what's happening right now, but not to be attached to it. And that's the, that's the whole Buddha's. Buddha teach, yes, non attachment means do not.

Allow yourself to.

Be submitted to the mind who's gonna rule you. So, meaning, do not allow your mind to think for you. Use your mind when you need it, but do not allow your mind to use you. So being neutral to the mind, meaning helping others to be neutral as well, because someone has to be neutral in this madness. And craziness. And that's your task, that's your mission. You have to maintain true power within. And that true power within will reflect itself in maintaining the, you know, balance outside. And what's the power within? It's your negative thinking, it's your positive thinking. And where are you in that equation? Are you ticking like a pendulum from positive to negative? Or are you in the middle? And you are in the middle like hurricane. You know, there's a chaos outside, there's absolute zero peace inside. Otherwise the hurricane will not be able to happen. Like if we have, if we have solid, solid globe inside, the globe has to be empty. Because everything in duality has to be balanced. Equations has to support each other. So your mind is there duality. It's a machine, positive, negative. And you are here maintaining that machine, using that power appropriately from the your soul, from your consciousness, from your awareness. Without going into the equations and preference point, you know, judging, you know, accepting this, but not accepting that. It's like beliefs and then false ideas and notions and all of that. Look, where's the power? The power is in the middle and the middle. We can call it the heart, you know, heart, but even the heart is not in the middle. Awareness is the middle. And you have two powers. You have power of heart and power of mind. And there are additional powers of the mind. Positive thinking, negative thinking. And where are you in those things? Brother, you are like a God, having all the power, almighty power, but not exercising that power.

Come on.

Just expressing that power in natural way. Like a compassion. If you have love for yourself, then you're gonna naturally spread love. It's not. I'm gonna give you love. There is nothing to give. It's natural. Like a flower growing and then, you know, it blooms. It's natural. It's gonna. Whoever received the flower. Thank you.

Yeah.

Who doesn't is gonna receive it, but not know that he, you know, that person received the flower fragrance and the beauty of flower. Thank you. And flower will change. Everything is changing. The whole situation here is that people are attached to that outside change, not really changing their perception of themselves and including themselves in the reality from the neutral point. Because it's not you outside. It's never been here. It's not you. You are inside because you just came here to experience yourself. We all have one mission in life. And that mission is to be who we are naturally and existentially and everything else there. It's in your support to teach you how to do that and how to be that. So do not Be attached to outside, go inside. And everything as illusion and hologram is there to support your quest and your. And your journey towards yourself.

I love it. So good.

Yeah.

The illusion is for a lot of people. The illusion is so real and it's so deep. And they're so entrenched in their old mind programs and their unconscious is just so, you know, 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day is what the average human being has. But when you really start to get into that no mind state which you talk of, or the zero point field we could call it, we come into our heart, we connect to our soul, right? And when you're in your soul, like think about the super, the most powerful superhumans you've ever watched on like any movie or anything else. Like, we have that in us. But it literally takes you letting go of who you really think you are. The mind you and becoming the supernatural big you. The universe in disguised you are the universe flipped inside out. Like, literally, you and I both. And it's so beautiful. You and I can live in love. We can be in nature and just be in love with the trees, with the birds, and have this rapturous bliss overtake us because there's no thinking, there's no, hey, we needed what happened in the past or what's going to happen tomorrow. Same thing. The lion and the tiger that's in the Serengeti, it just wakes up and gets its lunch. It's not worried about is it going to have a meal. And when we access that state, brother, like, everything takes care of itself. And I love the way you explained it. And it's a good reminder for me to live more in that because as an entrepreneur, it's easy to get down. Starting in the morning, looking at your phone, looking at social media here in America, and then you're all of a sudden you're going down this perpetual pendulum of negativity and you're watching your thoughts. So you're like, I'll just sprinkle some more positivity, right? And then you titrate back and forth. And it's just the game of the back and forth when really right in the center is it. I had a dream, a vision once where we don't. We don't have four chambers in the heart, we have a fifth. And that energetic chamber that's not in the 3D, it's actually connected to the supernatural, us or the soul. As soon as I realized that, my astral body came out of my body and I saw a ship and I'm like, I wonder what's on this. This craft or this ship. And it was me looking at myself, right? And I'm like, oh, this is. This is trippy.

I know it's trippy. I went to Peru. I had a call to go to Peru three years ago. And I had ayahuasca session. Ayahuasca journey, 20 years ago. Because I was going through all divorce with my beloved Lana. And at the end, it's like, before saying goodbye, you know, I said, hey, honey, you know, I love you so much, but let's go to Aya. And she said, yes. And we stayed. And, you know, we are together thanks to Aya. And never had called to do it. Even though I read Castaneda when I was, you know, Don Juan. When I was his Don Juan When I was 13, 14, it was like totally different world for me. And I said one day. And that one day came. And then, you know, I thought, okay, if. If the plant medicine calls me, I'm gonna go. You know, there is no question. You can't. You can't. You can't ignore divine call, can you?

Gotta go.

You can deny the government call, that's your right. But you can't deny denial, you know, Divine. So I went to Peru, ate ayahuasca sessions in Iquitos in Peru. You know, termites were growing their little tunnels around my. My body when I was sleeping. And frogs were in my dreams. So anyway, wow, you know, and one more session, I had a vision and that was, wow, it blows my mind totally. And my mind stop, totally changed the direction of. Of owning me, you know, then I, you know, it's like, mind is so perversive and so wicked, and it can hide in so many corners. Even when you think you're enlightened, the mind will challenge you. And, you know, by claiming enlightenment is the mind, you know, that's how big mind is. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, and I captured myself in that ego pieces that becomes my, you know, it becomes my obsession with things. And it's like I was stunned, you know, and. And I asked. My intention for that ceremony was, you know, show me my original face. If I have those glitches, I mean, show me on my original face. And in the middle of ceremony, I could see huge, big snowball coming towards me. And it's just in front of me, huge, big white snowball. And the voice from the snowball said, create your original face.

And that moment I understood the three levels, the three states of the water, you know, and immediately understand that I can create that face, whatever face I want, whatever shape I want. And immediate awareness that if I create that being a snow, snowball, it can be a, a water, it can be an ice, it can evaporate and disappear. My original face does not exist at all. My awareness is my original face. And it came out. And then finally my mind submitted its own, its own self to me. And it's.

That was the moment.

Wow.

And then I went outside and I talked to the moon and I said, and when I looked at the moon, the, the, you know, the, the star just bursted like meteorite, satellite, I don't know what, but the light was just bursted into nothing. And the moon was full. And I said to the moon, no, brother, you're not gonna rule me anymore. You know, we are done. You know, I'm the master now. Not the master of, of anyone else, but the master of my own self. And the mind is my own tool, a way, a machine that I need to use. So I'm very grateful for my mind, you know, I'm very grateful for my ego. I thank my mind, thank every thought of mine. Negative, positive, I say thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

You know, I'm not sure. Let me go into my consciousness, into my meditation, to my own nothing, and let's wait to see what will happen. Intuitively I will know. I will. I'm gonna use you, don't worry, you know, negative, positive. I'm gonna use you when I need you. But I don't need you at the moment. So you can just be nothing. And I want to be right now. No thoughts, no assumptions, no idea. I don't have to talk about known. Why do I have to talk to myself about known? Why do I have to think what I know? There's no point that kind of understanding coming from that moment, you know. So in a way, I start using my mind in order to create, designate and communicate. But when I don't use those things, I just going to.

Removing my mind in a way like the mind does not exist, you know, it's just, it's just the idea, it's illusion, you know, it's there to be used in this reality, but it's not you. You know, when your body dies, your mind is gonna go into the structure of the society. Every thought is gonna this, you know, go, go to the original owner, you know, but. And my consciousness is somewhere else in infinite nothing, waiting for another opportunity to be born and experience something else in order to learn and accomplish the task. And the task is to be myself. But you can be yourself. It's infinite process. The more you are being yourself, the universe expands. The more, the more is vacuuming more, the less you are, the more, the more becoming less. And that's the process. Everything in in universe is duality.

Yeah, duality. Wow.

You guys feeling that? Super, super powerful. And I know people are questioning right now, well, how do I get into this state of no mind? And I know we all have our own way of taking the journey, but I'd love to hear from you, Ivan, maybe three things that you do daily. I remember you saying nature was one of them, your art, obviously, but what are like the three things you're doing today to put you in this state of beyond the mind and just being awareness, simply being.

It's Liz, it's simple formula. And I try to convey that message to people in order to heal themselves from physical, mental, emotional difficulties. You know, it's simple formula. It's allow, accept and let go. It's simple formula. And that's detachment. You have to be detached from everything. Detached from your illness, detached from your problems, detached from your, you know, from situation that you are trapped in, attached from everything that you are not, you know, everything that you're not. And everything that you are not is not the truth, because you are the truth, you know. So using your mind, not being used by your mind, and the formula not to be used by your mind is allow, accept and let go. Because mind cannot let go of itself, of its own structure, beliefs, what's real and what's not. I have to be injected. Do you really? Did you study? No, I didn't. Did you research? No, I didn't. But I, I know that everyone is doing, I have to do it, you know, that kind of structure that push people to do something that's against their nature. That sad point, you know, but you can't do anything about that. So using your mind, not being used by it. That's the point. And we are all here experiencing.

Absolutely in plain sight, you, if you are, if you ever meditated just for a couple of minutes in your life, you will be aware that at the moment, people are submitting their consciousness to the structure so plainly, so openly and other side are talking. Come here. We are gonna, you know, we are gonna do this, you know, for your nature, but hey, we are gonna really damage you. And that's scary.

How many people are submitting themselves and almost 90% of people are doing that.

Yeah, everybody.

Everybody.

It's the mind virus.

It's the mind virus. It's. It's actually the, you know, it's sort of like an ancient battle between evil and good.

You know, tell us more about that.

So, like, you know, do you own yourself? Are you yourself or are you the group? Are you the herd? You know, do you follow others or do you follow yourself? Are you in goodness or are you following something that you, it appears goodness, but might be evil? You know, because you don't know you're being like, like guarded like a sheep and taken like a sheep to the slaughterhouse.

You know, there's a lot of spiritual quote unquote influencers that are falsely leading people down paths. And you can kind of. You see it, you know it, you feel it when you're tapped into your knowing. But when you're chasing the mental herd, like you said, a lot of people are confused and they're following these false leaders.

Hey, brother. Hey, brother. But, you know, let's go back to this. Allowing, accepting and letting go. As you allow, accept and go through every experience, you're coming closer and closer to your being because you have to let go. You have to let go of your past. You have to let go of everything that's happening in this moment. Because when you let go, consciousness will kick in and understand the lesson. Then you are. You are free, brother. You understand your pain, you understand suffering, you understand your assumptions and your beliefs and everything. And you let go of that because you understand from the conscious point of view, not from the mind point of view. Collecting the knowledge about. Yeah, it's knowing, it's knowing, it's. It's connecting to your soul that knows everything.

Yeah, you see, it reminds me.

Accepting and letting go. So you're becoming more conscious of your unconsciousness. You're becoming more conscious of your glitches, of your problems, of your attachments, of this, of that. And you are accepting it and letting go. If you can accept your past in fullness, if you can just look at your past, not run away from it, not ignore it, not fight with it, just to say thank you. Just say thank you. Because without you, I would not be here being myself right now, whatever I am. Thank you. From this point, I create my future and my future is free because I bring my future. I create my future according to my moment right now. If I'm locked in that structure of the social structure, then I'm creating inevitable future. So if I change my position here, the future will change if I maintain this position here because now appears and disappears. That's the duality. It's here and it's not. Here, but it's here again, again. It's a. It's a movement of now it's like ticking. It's like beating the drum, you see, it's like breathing in and out. We can. It's like that, but in very fast way. It's an absolutely infinitely fast way. You can see it, you can't capture it. You can only be aware of it, but also you can, you know, feel it in a way. That's why the feelings are easy access to awareness. Not the thought, but the feeling of it, not the emotion of it. Because emotion is the chemical components of the body created by your thinking. That the thinking brings emotion, feelings into it. As the, you know, mind asks the consciousness to participate and consciousness carries the feeling, so the mind is asking the feeling to participate in emotional burst of.

Reassuring that that's the reality. So you can feel your emotion, but you cannot emotion you're feeling. Because emotions are dualistic, while the feeling is oneness. I feel you, brother. And there is only one feeling. And that feeling is love. Love which is light. Light which is right now called life.

Yes.

And I'm alive right now. I'm in love with life, with myself. And I rejoice that love.

And then everything is different from my perspective and from my perception. That's called clear perception. It's neutral perception. Because love means neutrality. You, you don't need to give your love. If you are loving the neutral place, then the love will be shared equally. It doesn't really doesn't choose whether you're rich or poor, you know, that's what neutrality is. God is neutral, expressing itself as, as I said, as. As consciousness. And consciousness is duality, you know, and the mind is mimicking that duality and trying to control the reality, you know, duality, which is impossible task. That's why the suffering is, you know, in this reality. So, you know, asking me how to maintain it is allowing, accepting and letting go. And also knowing that pain is inevitable and suffering is optional. So if the pain is inevitable, the reality is pain. It is your teacher. You have to accept, allow, accept, and let go through it. Fear is there. Allow, accept, let go of it. That's how you bring yourself to your being, to your consciousness. And everything feels subtle.

Oh, I love that. I would add breathing to it. Like you just breathe through it. Allow, accept and let go. Because that prana, or the, you know, the life force is going to allow it to move.

And it's just so beautiful. Allow, accept, let go. It reminds me of what St Francis of Assisi Once said, and it was see everything as if it's the first time, the last time you'll ever.

Yeah.

And a simple conversation with your mom or your dad or somebody that could potentially normally be a trigger for you. Once you start viewing the world like this, it all goes away.

And it goes away, brother. It brings love. Because allowing, accepting and letting go is real property of love.

Yeah. It's neutral. I like what you said.

It's how the love comes to your. Your life. Because if you allow other brother to talk to you and you know, then, you know, you will not really be resentful towards your brother. You will include your brother in your life because your brother is not separated from you. Your brother is you. It's a reflection of you. You know, whether the brother is bringing you good or not good doesn't matter. He's a reflection of you. You should be grateful, you know, and the gratefulness is what love is. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to my past. Thank you to my enemies. Thank you to my bully. Thank you to my father and mother who bullied me all my life, you know, my young life. Thank you because you changed my, me. Not your bullying, but my, my, my. My consciousness wanting to get out of this situation, which is not mine. I didn't create it. I just accepted it in very weird way in order to save my own self. Otherwise I would just kill myself.

Yeah.

So my mind and my ego saved me. Thank you. But I don't need you anymore. Life is not dangerous. I don't need to survive. I'm home. Thank you. Be there. Where I'm going to use you. My grandma used to say to me, you know, when I was kid, she said, you have. Oh, son, you have two angels on your shoulders. I said, really?

She said, yeah. One is called devil. Another one is called angel. You know, one with horns and is red. Another one is white with aura. Yeah. One is saying, no, don't do that. One saying, yes, please. Or they can switch. One might say yes and the other might say no. Listen to both.

But you decide. Oh, yeah, and that's my mind, you know, devil and angel. And if you listen to those, we fight each other. You know, it's like devil fighting angels and angels running away from devil fighting devils. No, this battle has to stop. You have to go to your heart. And in your heart is you maintaining those two powers. The way you think, the way you perceive yourself, the way you perceive reality, the way you interact with people, whether you are in relation to people or in reactiveness to people. You know, that's what it is. It's the power within your heart, within your soul, within your awareness. Awareness of holding it in neutral. Zero point.

I love that. Yeah, the zero point field. Allow letting go, accepting, just being in that neutral. Allowing love to be neutral in your life. Ivan, you have literally given us so much value in this interview. I just want to first of all say thank you to everything that you went through to create the human being that I see before me today and the human being that's transforming thousands, if not millions of lives on the planet at this time. You carry such a high vibration and I found myself getting so much value out of this and I know any person that listened to this did as well. It's remarkable. So thank you for showing up and being here. Where can my audience find out more about you and what you're up to in the world? I know you, you, like you said and like I've researched, you've done a lot of different things. What are you most passionate about now that we want to get more people behind supporting them?

Passionate about, you know, you know, what's what. What you are man, you know, of course you have feminine, feminine qualities inside, which is absolutely beautiful to watch, but I love your masculinity. It's very straightforward. It's like a. It's like a hunter there, you know, hunting for the knowledge and hunting for, you know, hunting to. For the goodness, you know, and to help and all of that.

Yeah, I hear you, brother, and thank you for that, by the way. I receive that.

It's all about including yourself in everything you do. Everything you do, including yourself. So if you can include this interview into your own perception of self, something might be triggered there. Something might be included inside of yourself, some kind of different perception. It's like a little bit angle. When you move your angle. Oh, everything start changing, you know, that would be. That would be absolutely, absolutely beneficial for the. In this situation of, of choosing between evil and good in a way and, you know, and, and finding that neutral point, you know.

Yeah.

So I'm very grateful for this opportunity that I can share with you what my experience with, with meditation and everything else. So I'm very grateful for your presence. I'm very grateful for all offer to. For the interview. I'm very grateful for people who are going to listen and maybe possibly include it in their own perception. I'm very grateful. So thank you. Thank you for divine opening this portal. Thank you.

Yes, yes, thank you. And I will. Website.

Yeah. So they can find me. Yes, they can find me on ww.evan rados.com or they can find me on ww.inn internal.com like, you know, astronaut goes outside, Internet goes inside. And as the. There's the website for the plant medicine ceremonies and, and workshops and retreats. And the other website, Ivan Rados is my teaching. So that's. And Facebook, Instagram, just search Ivan Rados and you will get me there.

And I'll, I'll post everything below in the show notes, you guys. So you have that in the podcast stuff as well. And Ivan, this is. I want to bring you back on the show in the future, too. Once enough people have consumed some of your knowledge and integrated it in their personal reality, I think they'll have a lot more questions. It may be the first time that they're hearing from you. And some doors have been opened in their perception in a new way. Like you said, that angle. And I'm excited to stay in conversation with you, my dear friend. And I just appreciate the support and love and the light that you hold in your heart. And I'm excited to continue on this mission of understanding more and more every single day. So thanks for coming on the Drew and you show.

Thank you, brother. Thank you.

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