67: Time Travel, Persuasion, & Emulating Your Heroes With Ron Lynch

Yeah, you guys, Ron is a dear, dear friend, family member, soul fam. And we've had many conversations in the past where he's in alignment with a lot of the stuff that you and I believe on the Drew and you'd show. He was actually the one that came up with the name of this show, the Drew and you show.

Right. I think we did that in your kitchen one night.

Yeah.

Absolutely. Genius of a man, and renaissance man, for sure. And we've had a lot of fun together. In fact, we met, I think it was like, 10 years ago. FitLife TV first started, and they saw me as the juice guy. And Ron was doing about 15 different things at the time, but one of the big ones was launching other companies like Sonicare and GoPro camera and helping them with their marketing. He saw what we were creating at FitLife TV and we were dabbling, and we actually worked together on an infomercial shoot back in the day, which was a lot of fun.

Yeah, we'll probably do another one someday.

Let's do it someday soon.

Yeah.

Yeah. So here we are.

You want to tell them a little bit about Ron Lynch's origin story? Like, what makes you you? What makes your soul sing?

Well, I. I grew up in a relatively normal family unit. I was born in San Diego, but I was raised in Seattle, Washington. And when I was about 19 or 20, I was in college, and I.

Was fortunate enough to go to an audition for a film. And I landed a role in that film, which was a tiny role, but it allowed me to be on a movie set and start learning how films were made. And I got a SAG card. So it allowed me to be on other movie sets and other movies in small roles. But I was really more interested in filmmaking. And my day job was I worked in a grocery store, a grocery checker. And I worked my way up through the grocery business until I was eventually an executive director, a store director and manager, that type of job, and doing retail work and supply chain and labor. And one of my customers was launching the George Foreman Grill, and he was looking for a place in a grocery store to do that. And we had a very strange exchange. I got him into a store to start doing some testimonial man on the street stuff. I met George Foreman's agent through my friend at that agency and sold George Foreman's agent, Sam Perlmutter, the rights to a script. I'd written a screenplay. And so I was screenwriting, I was acting, and these guys said, hey, do you think you could write a commercial? And that was a. About the week of 9, 11. And I changed careers, and I started making infomercials and TV commercials. And that one. One thing led to another. I just. I got a string of five really good hits out of the park early on, and then I had five disasters, and I had to start cultivating why I was winning and why I was losing. And I had to do some soul searching. But at the end of the day, I. I realized that my great loves in life are God, are creation and art.

So if there's people I admire, Jesus would be one of them. Leonardo da Vinci would be another one of them. And.

I love people that are creative and have principle.

I love that, Buddy. Yeah, We've had many, many Jesus talks. We've talked about Leonardo da Vinci. I like. One of the things I love. We had a dinner in.

It wasn't Sedona. It was actually back in Mount San Diego. Mount Helix. Yeah. And you were telling us about time and the concept of how the universe actually works. And I just want to. The people on the. Drew and you. These are next caliber people. Let's talk a little bit about that. You want to get into the concept of time, how you see it, and how the universe kind of works in your mind.

Sure. So.

Time and space are related. They're also related to velocity. We tend to measure things in velocity. Time moving forward. And when you think of velocity, ask yourself, how fast are you moving right now? And I can look at this glass on my desk and go, well, I set it on my desk. It looks extremely still. When I realized that the world is rotating at 24,000 or 1,000 miles an hour, because it's 24,000 miles around. Right. It's cranking along. And then when you measure that the Earth is rocketing around the sun at 365 days a year now, you're getting really up there in speed. And then when you realize that the sun is trucking through the universe and this Earth is like a marble chasing it.

We'Re moving really, really fast.

But we're covering a lot of ground. So what you really are in appears to be a universe, which it is, but it's also a huge clock. It's a huge mechanical clock, and it goes forward and expands and it trucks through space to kind of grasp that if you said, hey, if I went back in 10 minutes in time, where would I be? And we think, oh, I would be right here. And it would have been right before Drew started speaking. Maybe we were getting our cameras and ready and getting Our connection. Ready? But the fact is, 10 minutes ago, I was not here. Ten minutes ago, I was thousands of miles from here. And if I went back in time to where I was then, I'd be in the middle of space right now. Because we're moving in time and space constantly. We're trapped inside an amazing clock. And once you realize that you're in this amazing clock and it's accelerating all the time, which makes no sense, then the world is full of a ton of contradictions. When you realize your world is full of a lot of contradictions, you have to start examining what those contradictions are and where we are in our continuum, realizing we can't go backwards. We can only go forwards, but we can go forwards anywhere we want to go.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

If you've. I watched a documentary on, I think it was Gaia, where it was on the ancient Egyptians and how the pyramids were actually like those little dial hands on a watch. And, you know, they were showing pictures of the moon and other planets that actually have these pyramids. And if you can tune into the frequency of the location. Right. The vibration of the location, then you could actually teleport through time and space.

Yeah, I mean, let's talk about that. So let's talk about how time travel would really work if you had to go through time and space.

Yeah.

And the pyramids are a great example. I love using those as an example. I use them when I tell a story, typically. So.

If you want to travel through time and space, and we believe from the. I'll say, the UFO stories and now from the Defense Department, the things that we're talking about when we talk about acceleration and spacecraft and military aircraft and gamma waves and gamma rays, is you would be. In order to travel through time, the universe must not be able to see you. So you need to be in something that bends all the light around it, so you become invisible. Kind of like Harry Potter's invisibility cloak.

Yeah.

You can build a machine that creates waves that forces light to bend around you, and you become invisible to the universe. So your first obvious question would be, well, then, where are you? But if you think about that deeper, you can ask the question, well, when are you? Because if you can't be seen by the universe, then when are you? Is as valid a question as where are you?

Yeah.

Now, as I described, the universe is expanding like that. If there are coordinates like the pyramids and there's these markings all over the planet Earth, by the way, and if there's a Marking to triangulate with per se. The moon or Sirius, the Dog Star or Orion's Belt or the Sun. Could you say if I get the frequency of those coordinates right and vibrate at that frequency, then turn my spaceship off and reappear, I should reappear there and then.

So perhaps all of these visitations that we're seeing from, or we believe we're seeing from UFOs are not anything but us visiting us in time.

Thank God. I've had many dreams where I. I'll astral jump or tell my consciousness to move in a ship. And I always see myself flying the ship.

Yeah, because you are.

Yeah. So there's that and maybe our Merkabah or our Christ consciousness or the field, the Buddhic field actually is that teleportation device that we have that we've created already. And maybe a spiritual plane or the fourth or fifth density. And now we're showing up in the 3D.

Whispering through eternity, hey, wake up a little bit more and you could have access to this stuff.

Yeah. I mean, think of yourself as a whole being and your whole consciousness. Because we spend most of our days surviving, eating, working, feeding, socializing, doing things that keep the human body alive, but we're still required to sleep one third of our lives.

Yeah.

Well, what if the inverse was true? What if you were really meant to sleep? Maybe dreaming is actually part of what you were designed to do primarily.

Or maybe we're dreaming right now entirely. Yeah.

I love these chats with you. Jedi. Jedi talks.

Gosh.

There was something else that was deeply, deeply profound that you and I have been working on for a while. And I know I was on with Paul Check. And he was talking all about this, but it was the ability to remote view. And we did a live and you and I. I've had many experiences with Ron when he'll either message me and he'll tell me, like, what's going on in the room around me. Or the inverse, where I'll tell him, you know, what's happening, where he is. Let's talk a little bit about remote viewing and how people can do that.

Sure. I think that there's. First of all, there's lots of stuff on YouTube to look at. Incredible people that have been in the. In the government that will walk you through the experiments that will get you over the gate of belief. What remote viewing is is essentially being able to close your eyes and visualize another time and space continuum.

This technique is used very often in solving crimes. People have historically called it someone being Psychic. And people call themselves psychics. What you discover when you learn more about this topic is that no one is more psychic than anybody else. You have as much ability to psychic ability as you do to making scrambled eggs. Anybody can do this. Some of the people that have been tested and vetted as great remote viewers have not been people that were in the program to do it. They find oftentimes it's employees, it's. It's secretaries or assistants. It has to do with the openness that you have to be willing to remote view. So I was on a call. I'm on a task force for COVID 19 for the. It's a group of professionals, military people, educators all over the world. There's like 200 people in this group, a lot of names you'd recognize. And we jump out into groups of 3, 4, 5. 5 out of hundreds of people. And I got in this group, and there were three people. One of them was in Scandinavia. And she mentioned remote viewing in her dialogue of, hey, this is who I am. This is what I do for a living. I do counseling. I do this, I do that. And I'm a remote viewer. And.

I kind of kind of brushed by it. And the other two people were like, what's remote viewing? And I said to her, I said, hey, do you mind if we. If we do this, we just show them what it is? She said, you know, in her Swedish accent, sure, no problem.

And I said, okay, I want you to picture yourself.

And this is all the information I gave her, by the way. I said, I want you to picture yourself in the Sears tower on the observation deck 20 years from now.

She said, okay. And she closed her eyes, and she goes, I don't know what the Sears Tower is. I said, you don't need to.

She goes, okay, I'm going to give myself over to this. I'm in the Sears Tower. She goes, oh, this is. She opened her eyes. She said, this is a very, very tall building. She goes, it feels like it's in Chicago. Said, it is in Chicago. And you're on the observation deck. And she goes, it's very odd. There's no one here. There's no people. I'm by myself. And I said, I want you to go over to the observation glass, to the window and look down and tell me what you see.

She, in her vision, walks over to the glass, and she looks down, and she goes, oh, my.

There's space for streets, but they're covered with grass and with trees, and there's people walking around. But they're not busy people going to work. They're just wandering. They're just people. They look like. They look like they're indigent. And there are no cars and there's no culture. There's just these stragglers.

Oh my God.

And she got really upset, like she broke the vision. So the other two people on the call were like, okay, okay, I get what this is. And she was like, ron, what did I see? And I said, you saw the Sears Tower 20 years in the future. I don't know what you saw, but you described what the environment is like there.

But that's what you saw 20 years from now. I guess we'll find out.

That sounds like a scene out of Walking Dead or something.

Yeah. But this was if for people that there might be people that are too young to know this story, but in the early 1970s, Patty Hearst, the daughter of William Randolph Hearst, was kidnapped.

People might know her daughter Lydia, who's kind of a famous person in Los Angeles now. And Patty Hearst was found with remote viewing.

And so it's very interesting. Like it's a very common thing that's used by the FBI, by the CIA, by the NSA to do these things. But it's also something that you can do with a friend. And as Drew said, we do it frequently that I will text him and I will say describe my surroundings right now. And he is extremely talented at nailing it.

And anybody can do it. Like Ron said, you guys. And it's the. I find for me, the less I think about it, the less I actually read books about it or like go on YouTube, the easier it is. It's like the reason Ron and I are so good at it is we share one thing in common. And that's just like this childlike joy from life. And when you're in your heart, when you're in that five year old little boy or little girl, it's so much easier to access different gateways or pathways to these other things. So just don't overthink it would be my thing.

Amen. And that is true of all of life. Like, we come here complete. We don't come here like a bicycle with three parts missing and we're sent out to find the three missing parts and then we'll be complete. And a lot of us operate in life that way or get started that way, because that's kind of what we're taught is you have to learn something and do something and do that to be something.

Yeah.

And if you find, when you discover that God made you exactly the way that you were intended to be made. And you don't need to go find love. You don't need to go make money. You don't. All of those things will happen to you if you prime those pumps with actually quit trying to collect those things and start distributing them. The people who collect the most love are the people that prime the pump by giving the most love. The people who make the most money are the people who prime the pump by giving. Giving, giving, giving. You are a source of creation in the universe.

I was giving a talk the other day about how value is created. I have blank canvases over here in the corner of my office. I have paint. I can paint with $20 worth of paint and a $20 canvas. And I am not a great painter, but I might be able to paint something that somebody pay 100 bucks for. So I've taken two things that are 20 bucks and I've made 100 bucks. Da Vinci, Gauguin, Renoir could take the same. Someone who's practiced at that form of giving can create out of nothingness something that's worth a million dollars or $10 million. That's what novelists do every day. That's what creators do. They actually create something out of nothing and place it in the world and it suddenly has huge value.

Yeah, J.K. robbins comes from you.

Yeah, it's. It reminds me of when I first started FitLife TV and I wasn't a personal trainer, wasn't a nutritionist. And then people started calling me up. I got a phone call from Kent Clothier, you know, Kentucky. And he's very well, can you come in and transform my family, help me get in shape? So for a day, two days, I went in there, showed him how to juice, took him to the grocery store, cut the sugar, the dairy, the wheat, the gluten, all the things. And at the end of it, he's like, well, how much do you want? Simply asked me how much I want to be paid. And I was like, well, thinking about a personal trainer, they'd make 150 bucks an hour for a good one. I'm like, $1500. And I thought that was a lot. And I'm like, oh, perfect. And then he got the results. And sure enough, within another month, I started getting more phone calls. And it went from 1500 to five grand to ten grand, and all the way up for a day worth of time. But it was all the information that I put into myself, all the reading and the videos and the self demonstration that I put on that really allowed me to scale my value that much. So no matter where you are, because you've distilled it.

Yeah, yeah. You're like a safe. You've got all of this stuff locked up inside you.

I love that.

And you just, hey, I've got a number that unlocks the safe for you, if you don't mind dialing that number. And they dial the number, they open the safe, they get the goods. And you've done them an amazing benefit because look at all of the time and searching that you've saved them. But also look at the.

I hate to use the word hack, but it's truly the time you compressed for them. Because you're not only adding quality years, quality days right now at the front of their life, right in the middle, and saving five years of searching, you're also making their lives longer and healthier and those people around them. So there's this incredibly exponential effect that occurs when you work with a person like you. Yeah.

And likewise. And you have combinations to multitudes of things that you help people with. But let's talk about the main safe code that Ron lynch has that he's given to the world right now because it's changed throughout time a little bit. But where are you currently in the universe? When are you.

Yeah, I do have a variety of things. Generally my main. I have probably four or five things that I do. But the main thing that I do is I help people who have really good ideas that are realized. So I don't work with people with post it notes. I work with people who have finalized things. Have. What's that?

Post it notes? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I have people come to me all the time and say, hey, I got a great idea for a screenplay you should write. And I'm like, yeah, I got about nine of those. I don't have the time to write them myself. So when I get done with my nine, I'll call you for your post it note. You gotta have something real, but it's gotta be able to actually impact other people. I don't help people that have an idea that will help them make a lot of money. I have. I help people that have products, ideas, programs, things that will help other people really get real results in life. Because that's the value of business. Everybody has to advertise in business. And so most people come and they're attracted to me. Like, hey, you've made a lot of advertisements that have launched a lot of things. But the way that I select things I mentioned, I Had five successes and five failures. The thing that I learned was the stuff that worked was good for other people. And once it gets traction, the marketing costs drop because the product's so good. You build an advertising base out of your customers and they become your salespeople. So even when I go to create advertisements or content for people, I'm not looking to get customers. I'm looking to train salespeople who fell in love with the product.

That's beautiful.

Which is very much what organifi is.

Yeah. And we're becoming more and more of that through your wisdom and helping us and the things that we've done in the past. And yeah, when you can have thousands of ambassadors for you, that's much more powerful than even the greatest media spender ad campaign that you have.

Yeah, yeah. And then we just apply that. I mean, it's a systemized thing the way that I think it can be systematized, but it's learning how to think, not what to think. And so we do it with all kinds of goods. And then we have a nonprofit that we run called IntelliHelp, which is currently feeding people in the pandemic. Seniors and indigent people and people with a lot of single moms. And we're turning that into an app and a jobs program. So it becomes kind of self sustaining, like Uber Eats, plus the Red Cross plus a food brand. So it becomes an ecosystem that we can hire a CEO to run that will. It's building a working model to solve a real problem in the world.

I love that you're doing that.

Well, there's a lot of people doing it. I just happen to think of it. They're doing all the heavy lifting, I promise you.

I remember you telling me about this a couple years ago, right when the pandemic started, or the pandemic started. This was something that you were up to.

Yeah, we started on March 14, the day that we went into lockdown. I made a Facebook post and within a week we had like 30,000 members or something. With a month we had 70,000.

But it's people helping people and it's really, it's enabling goodness in the world. Because all we do is we say, hey, here's a hungry person. You actually take the responsibility to buy their groceries via Amazon, Instacart, Walmart, Target, whatever you do, and have them delivered. So we're just matchmaking.

Bridging the gap.

Yeah, bridging the gap. But once somebody does that and they see that the hundred percent of what they donated went to A real person. And they facilitated the rescue. It's addictive.

Yeah.

Helping people becomes addictive, as you know. Yeah.

When in doubt, focus out, baby.

Yep.

That's the thing. And you're in Austin. You're in the land of the free right now.

I am in Austin. I am. I am. And I'm moving. I just got a. Just bought a ranch. So I'm about to move a little bit farther out of Austin. But still, that's the plane you'd take to get here.

Okay. So I need. I need a ranch next to Ron Lynch.

There's one available.

Send me some property details. I'm actually. I just did a 1031 exchange, so I'm looking actively.

Land.

Why?

I think a lot of people are moving towards land right now. It's in the consciousness of the.

Yeah. And. Well, you know, and with satellite Internet, it's. It makes it a lot easier. Yeah. And.

We'Re. I think we're getting to a place where as people, we can design our own lives and feel like we have some autonomy in the direction we go. And that's not always so easy to do when you're inside of a City.

Yeah. 100% less noise. So you think you're gonna get some horses there, Ron Lynch.

I know. Maybe some chickens and some lambs and some goats.

There are horses. I like horses and I ride horses.

Yeah.

But a horse is a more of a work animal. And I'm. I'm not. I don't have anything to do any horse work on.

I can shear sheep and make lamb chops and collect eggs. Hope that lamb chops doesn't scare.

And you'll have water. Solar power fully off grid.

We have water right now. We're going to build in the barn and putting solar on it. And then we'll be.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's the life.

American Gothic.

It went from got to live in the city, be around all the busy doing. Right. To I got 100 acres out in the middle of nowhere with chickens. Yeah.

Lots of stars in the sky. And simple. It's the. I've had, you know, like most people, I spent my life accumulating. And now I'm 55 years old and I'm reducing. I don't drink drip coffee anymore. I drink espresso.

I love that. I don't know if you told me this, but it is like a game of cards, you know, or it's math is. What do you tell me this?

No, I don't want to hear it.

Where it's like in the beginning of our life. We multiply. We try to figure it out. Then we get to know what we like. And then we do addition. So we're still adding things into our life. And we get a little bit older. And then we start to subtract things, take away things that no longer make any sense that are just bogging us down. We get a little wiser. 55 be it for you. And then you start dividing things. So you just go through these steps, and that's beautiful to see. And I think you're helping so many people in that. So when the sage. You're in that sage level, the night King sage. And when you're there, it's how many people can I help?

Yeah. Yeah. And it's. Yeah. I think in my personal path, I think I took a step to the right to more of the magic path.

Yeah.

Of spell casting. And I support a lot of kings and a lot of emperors.

Yeah.

But I have no desire to be a king or an emperor.

I'd rather be go through the magic.

Padawan to teach her to wizard to. You know.

Yeah.

I'll probably end up being like green and 2 1/2ft tall with real long pointy ears.

I will help. I will help your people.

Drew.

I love your spell casting too. Ron is a tremendous writer. He's helped me write some things. And you've written some books now and you've done a lot of other writing stuff. He has this tremendous ability of putting himself inside the mind of whoever's reading it, which is very valuable when it comes to enrolling people in a vision and a mission and a product service. So maybe give us. Give the audience some tips in how to start there or whatever you think.

Sure.

Yeah, sure.

I mean, in particular, if you're a person that sells something for a living, what I often say is that you can sell people or close people. And I mean, I don't mean this to make money. I mean, even if it's an idea.

Yeah.

If you ask three questions and if you ask the questions in the right order. So the first question either touches someone's hope or their pain. So you just simply ask them if this is them. So.

Let'S just pick something innocuous like sleep.

Did you sleep terrifically last night?

Or. So that's a bit of pain. Or I bet you felt like you woke up like a princess this morning from the way you slept. Not so much. Would you like to?

Of course.

Very simple.

Yeah.

Then the second question is a hint at an innovation. Are you aware that there's something to discover here about sleep that you may not know. That'll make you sleep terrifically. We could have done that with remote viewing. We could have said, have you ever heard of remote viewing? I bet a lot of the audience went, huh? You go, remote viewing is a way that you can see across time and space into interesting things and anybody could do it. Curious. So that second question provokes innovation and curiosity. Yeah, I want to do that. Yeah, I want to sleep. Great. Yeah, I'm interested in remote viewing. The third question tells them that there's an offer for it. You know what? I can teach you how to remote view in about four minutes if you're curious.

Or I have a solution that will ensure natural sleep for you every single night for the rest of your life. Interested?

That means I'm going to be able to obtain it. So those three things of. Of curiosity and what that allows the person at the other end of the conversation to do is to step in and go, yeah, that's me. Yeah, I'm curious about that. And yeah, if that's true, I would want it. So they said yes three times. So they've actually already bought it. Now they just. You have to get over their objections. So now I would simply need to explain what remote viewing is, how it works, or what my new sleep solution is and how it works and have it make rational sense. Then introduce you to three or four people that had done it successfully so they would know that I was telling you the truth. Maybe a scientist to validate that my story was actually scientific and it had some validation, and then say, here, we want to try it and make an offer to them. But this is that paradigm of asking three questions can be done in parenting. It can be done in your relationship. You can avoid probably most conflict in your life if you just go through that process with people and give, I guess what you'd say is informed consent.

That's beautiful.

Hopefully that's useful.

Yeah, write that down, you guys. I know there's a lot of marketers that are listening to this and interested in promoting a product, but like Ron said, even outside of that, it's so simple. When you break it down like that.

You'Re always having a conversation with somebody.

Even if it's yourself.

Yeah.

So tell me what the next six months looks like for Drew Canole.

Oh, that's a great question. It's, well, looking for land likened to you. I think that's a big step, becoming like off grid type of thing and doing more with the organifi team in Person. We've been virtual for the past couple of years. We had a big office in. In Mission Valley here in San Diego. And we decided through all the tyrannical laws that we wanted to kind of exit that. And we're looking for another place where we can connect and meet in the physical. Give some hugs. We love hugs at organifi.

Yep.

So there's that growing organifi impacting the customers even more. So we have more raving ambassadors for our superfoods that are organic glyphosate residue free, highest quality in the world.

So that would be business front, I think, spiritually dropping more into my tai chi practice that I do. Meditating more. I got a koi pond at my house in La Jolla, so I go out there in the morning and meditate and do some tai chi, do some more wizardry stuff.

Nice.

Yeah. So there's that.

Fish are relaxing. I love fish.

Yeah, I think exploring.

Yeah, that would be. That would be one of the big things for sure.

Now let me ask you. I want to go back to the top question because I'm actually curious about this now, because I've asked you this years ago. Time changes things. Who are the folks, maybe three folks that you strongly admire.

Yeah.

And the character traits of those guys or gals?

That's a great question. And if you're listening to this, you guys do this with me. Think of the three people that you strongly admire as well.

Living or dead. They just have to have walked the earth. So you can pick living or dead.

Okay.

Yeah. You can pick Mark Twain, but you can't pick Huckleberry Finn. So you don't have to have known him.

Well, definitely Jesus. I would pick that one for sure.

We'll come back to it. So let's just list them off. First there's Jesus. Then who's the second?

I would say.

Probably my dad.

Okay, your dad. And then number three, I would say.

One of my mentors, Frank. He's a sage. Totally.

Okay, let's go. Let's start with Jesus. What are the three?

I would say you, Ron, but you're on this podcast.

I don't want. That would be awkward for both of us. But let's. Let's. Let's go to Jesus. What are the three character traits of Jesus? Not behaviors, but character traits. The things that drove the behaviors. Three character traits of his that made him stand out.

I think one thing for me when I. When I think of that is it would be compassion, you know, being in your heart. I think that's A great example for that, I think. Wisdom beyond years.

Yeah. He was only 33 when he died. Seemed to be pretty clever.

He still got followers. He's got most of the followers, from what I understand.

Yeah, exactly. And I would say.

Just a really, really effective with his communication. Dumbing things down, speaking in parables. I admire that as somebody who is a, you know, helping people get healthy and explaining simple ways to do that.

Yeah. You can read the bible when you're eight and you can read it with the year 80 and it's still valuable.

Yeah.

Okay, then your dad.

My dad. Which is a tricky one because I've learned so much from my father about what I don't want.

Let's go with the character. Positive character traits.

Yeah.

Okay. What are the character traits?

So charisma, very charismatic. He could enroll anybody into anything. He's a salesman. And I would say he's funny, he's hilarious. He's always cracking jokes, always got a smile on his face. There's that.

So that would be three. And then moving to Frank.

Did we get three? We got. Yeah, we got charismatic.

We got funny charisma, funny, always happy. And he can sell.

Oh, joyful.

Joyful. Yeah, he can sell.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. And Frank, Frank.

He'S. He's the biggest demonstration to me of one who focuses out. He's always helping other people. He speaks five languages. He's like 92 years old. He's mentoring kids all the time from all over the world. So just focusing out.

Okay, so. So selfless.

Yeah, selfless. I would say something. I'd say he's a tremendous healer too. He walks into a room and people can sometimes be instantly healed from his vibration or his frequency that he's creating.

Okay, so. So that's almost a behavior, though. What's the thing that drives being a healer?

That would fall into selfless, probably, but I think his connection to God. So, okay, knowing that he's connected.

Yeah. So God centered. That's a character trait.

God centered. And then the other characteristic of Frank that I admire would be his relationship with his wife, who's no longer in the earth plane. But it was just the relationship those two had. It was so romantic. Even after being married over, I think, 50 years, they were reading together every morning and just hyper connected.

Okay. So if you're listening to this right now, if you went through that list of character traits from being funny to being God centered, to being.

A great communicator, to being a great healer, just that whole list that Drew just gave.

That would describe Drew. That's who Drew really is. And I know that those things are true, that that's who he really is. So this is a really simple exercise that you can go through with people in your life.

You can go through it if you're hiring somebody. They're all legal questions. You can go through it if you're on a date so that you don't get to date number five and find out you don't like the person, or worse, get to marry to your number seven and get divorced. If you get these value centered questions up front with people, not only are they telling you who they are, they're signing up to be that person. And so there's kind of an unspoken contract, and you have expectations, and they know what the expectations are. When you're this open, of course, you gotta be willing to give up your character traits and become those and stay steadfast in those as well. So I just find this to be a really great shortcut to kind of lift the veil on somebody. It's very difficult to say, oh, I'm an awesome person and I think I'm great. Nobody wants to hear that. But if I hear who you really are through the vehicle of who you love.

Yeah.

Then I know who you are.

That's beautiful, buddy. All right, what do you just. I want to know this personally and I know there's people here that are probably asking too, what are the characteristics? Because you said you look up to Jesus and Leonardo da Vinci.

Yeah. And it's going to. It might be surprising because, I mean, we've picked similar people in many ways, but for different traits. I actually. One of the things I love about Jesus is that he was. He was a rebel. He actually stood against the Pharisees, the existing church and the state.

That took a lot of courage. He was a very courageous person. He was convicted. He was willing to go to the extreme for what he believed to the point of dying for it.

He was loving. And by loving, I don't mean that he had a feeling of love. I mean, he had a behavior of love. He. You spoke of healing. In order to heal somebody, you have to vibrate empathetically at the same wavelength that they vibrate in order to correct their vibration and heal it. So he was willing to take on the sickness of the sick. He was willing to take on the. The shame of the whore, the pain of the fisherman, that he was willing to take that onto himself. But he was divine, so he knew how to shed himself of it as well.

Da Vinci was curious, highly Curious. He was also.

Courageous, but capable in many art forms. You can look at Da Vinci's light studies, and they're amazing just how he painted light. He has paintings and drawings that were just devoted to how light operates. Then you go on to sculpture, you go on to painting the frescoes. And the Last Supper, which I visited several times in Milan. Then anatomy, then science and invention. I'm pretty sure he was probably a good cook, too. He was an extra. I mean, that's why he's the quintessential Renaissance man.

100%.

He did not see a limitation. And we tend to in our world today say, oh, you're an engineer, oh, you're a lawyer, oh, you are a juice and nutrition expert. There's no reason that you can't be all of those things. Everything.

You are only limiting yourself by what you believe you can do. You can do multiple things. You can be creative in many, many ways and be very useful and visionary. He was also able to see where things were headed when you look at his engineering drawings for flight and for helicopters. And it's mind blowing that this was done in the 15th century.

And most of the other folks that would come to mind are.

Are probably comedians because they think in juxtaposition and they're joyful and they also are, I'll say, stalwart, have lived through pain. If you look. Look into most comedians, you'll find a side of them that was depressed or had anxiousness or an unusual circumstance. Like Robin Williams is one of those people that comes to mind. For me.

Yeah.

Most people don't realize, they assume that all comedians start out poor. Robin Williams did not. His father was a vice president at Ford Motor Company and he lived in a mansion outside of Detroit, and he didn't have anybody to play with. And so Robin Williams developed his talent and his art by entertaining the staff in the Mansion.

What a character.

Yeah.

Yeah. And that's you, too. Every single thing that you mentioned. I mean, I've never gone out with Ron and not had every single person in the. The restaurant laughing or we got IVs one time too, didn't we? And you were like, oh, that was fun. That was hilarious. I still remember it like it was yesterday.

That was super fun. Yeah, well, it was about. About six weeks before COVID so it was yesterday. The time compression.

For real.

Okay, so where can people find out more about Ron Lynch? How can we support you in this community? What can we do?

If you want to learn how to think the way I think, I have a course in it that you can take that's available if you. I think it's@ron lynchmarketing.com I'll put that.

In the show notes too.

And.

If you sincerely have a funded friend or yourself that has something that really is going to change the world.

I don't accept porcelain dog dishes because those don't change the world. They just change the kitchen floor.

But things that truly do change the world, I'm happy to entertain those. And I can be emailed @ronigbabyagency for any kind of support that way or I obviously do consulting and training that way too.

I love it. And we'll put that in the show notes.

That's very kind of you. I appreciate that.

Yeah, 100%. And Ron's course is legit to you guys. Like if you want to learn how Ron thinks, check out that course. 1,000%.

Yeah. We really do train people to think this way and duplicate it. It's duplicable. I didn't know it was until I started teaching it and then I realized, oh yeah, I can train people to do this.

Yeah.

Ron's had and they are succeeding. Yeah.

He's literally had 10,000 plus hours in this. So he's the pro.

Yeah.

So thanks for coming on, my brother. I miss you. I love you.

I love you too. I'm gonna text you and we're gonna get plane tickets one direction or the other and I'll get you some information on property out here in a place you've never heard of that's very close with wild animal parks around it. It's pretty crazy.

See, that's what I want. Living water. I want to build some cool like scalar tech too and have my own power and everything else. I'm looking forward to it. So please send. Love you so much.

Love you too. Thank you. Thank you for the time.

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