72: Why We Need To Make Order Out Of Chaos With Brooks Hollan

All right, welcome to the Drew and you show, everybody. I got a really dear friend, a brother from another mother. Gosh, we've known each other for about 1112 years.

Yep.

Ever since the start of FitLife TV. The very beginnings.

FitLife TV.

And if you haven't heard this voice, this is the legendary Mr. Brooks Holland is here and he is here to educate us. Talking about turning order into chaos or chaos into order.

But, well, it's, it's, it's the lens to identify order and chaos.

And also we're going to talk about how to build an appropriate commune or a sanctuary for. To create a village, self sustaining village today with all the madness in the world. Yeah, we're just going to go for it.

Let's go for it.

Thanks for jumping on, man.

Anytime.

I'm eating right now. I'm eating. I got a raw superfood bar. This is Brooks's favorite from Paleo Valley. Good company. I'll leave a link in the show notes for you guys.

Yeah, they're pretty tasty, aren't they?

Yeah. So good. Dude. This guy. So long story short, I never had a six pack. Right. Until I met this guy. And I know it's a vanity thing.

Right.

But also it's a health thing. Most of the people getting sick today with the quote unquote thing that everybody's talking about, it's from morbidly obese.

Yeah. From being overweight. But also, let's be fair, we were all. We were both completely different people over a decade ago.

Were we though?

Well, some of the things that we were chasing were.

What were we chasing?

Huh?

What were we chasing?

You know, vanity.

I wanted a six pack.

Uncertain things.

He showed me how to get it. It was as easy as eating like six almonds in between meals. I remember this. Drinking copious amounts of green juice. Remember 78 pounds of raw veggies from.

That was so funny.

And it wasn't even organic.

Yeah. We didn't know.

We didn't know. This was even before I knew that organic was so much better.

We were just carrying. Literally. We each had 35 pound boxes of vegetables. Going back to your house with that old synergy like the juicers that spin around. Not the masticating tried best. Not the slow squeezing like the supersonic loud.

Oh, it was the Jack LaLanne.

Yeah, that's what it was.

And we broke. I went through like three of those. I broke three Jack Lane juicers. Juicing so much.

Yeah. Because they're good for really juicy vegetables but not so good for the Fibrous. Yeah.

Not so good for celery and kale.

Not so much.

Which we were drinking a lot of it back then.

Yeah.

We felt so good. We were like, radiating health. Everybody at the gym would come up to us. They're like, what are you guys doing? We work out twice a day back then. Or was it just one workout, like at 5 in the morning?

We did a combination of both.

Yeah. We would work out at 5 in the morning. I actually met him in the gym that early. I'm like, wait a minute, who is this guy? Training as early as I am and as vigorous as I am. We gotta connect.

Yep. That was one of the first people you met when you moved down to San Diego.

Yep. And we started working out every day together. And he had a blog at the time. You were running like a real estate blog or something, right?

I did have a blog during the. The. The housing bubble of like, 060708.

And he was just crushing traffic. So he understood how to do it. SEO and all the things.

Yeah. Hindsight's 20 20. If I didn't know what I know now, I really could have monetized that.

It's always.

I was. I was offering a great service, helping a lot of people, but I wasn't. I wasn't really monetizing it. You know, hindsight's always 20 20, but.

And that's how it was with me and the credit and finance and everything that I was up to too.

Yeah.

Way back in the day.

Oh, yeah.

And then we shared a similar conviction because we both read the article that kids were no longer going to live as long as their parents. And that's when we became rabid fans of creating content. Walk us through your version of this story, because it's going to be completely different than what they've heard from me. But back then, what was your experience of, you know, what we created in the very beginning or meeting me, you know, personally, man.

It's just. It's so funny because I talk about this with my wife because, again, there's a lot of similarities because I am not the promoter type person.

Yeah.

And so even remember, like, I filmed you on a lot of videos, but I didn't really get on the videos. And that was the same thing for my wife, who is Natalie Jill. Natalie Jill Fitness. You know, she's got close to 3 million social media followers. So for years, I did everything from behind the camera because I never wanted to be on camera.

Yeah.

And as you know, it might like, that was one of the Big things I had to break through was actually being seen and actually getting on the other side of the camera. But yeah, that was, you know, back in that time. I, like, I did for the longest time, stayed in the background. But yeah, I was, I was always, oh, I'll film Drew, I'll film you. But I, I never got on the other side of the camera that much. I mean, yeah, you got me.

Which was crazy to me because you were actually really good on video. Hilarious.

Well, that's the ironic thing. I saw people like, oh, like, it's like you've been on video for years, but that's our own. Like, that was one of the big things I had to overcome was, I mean, everybody's got something.

Remember cash cart?

Oh, yeah. We'd go in Costco and ask people questions and then give them five, give them money, ten bucks if they could.

Answer them via video. And now some of the biggest Internet videos are the ones where they're giving out like 100 to 500 bucks for people asking and answering questions. And.

Yeah, it was just. We were filming those with a flip cam.

Yeah.

And we probably just dated ourselves. But a lot of people that. This was before your phone had a camera on it.

Yeah, way back, most of them.

So there was a flip cam, had a flip out USB port on it, a little tiny like 1 1/2 inch screen, and one red button to start and stop.

It was almost easier in a lot of ways.

Yeah, it was simple. Just take it and plug it into the USB port on your computer. Because there's only one USB style back.

Then and there was no cinematic 4k, 5k this. There wasn't like zooming in, zooming out.

Nope.

It was so much easier. People like long format videos. They loved education. Now it's like 15 seconds in their, their brain dead.

Yeah, we have, we have obliterated people's attention spans.

Yeah, not you, not me, not us. But the algorithm media.

I mean, it started with the MTVs, you know, quick cuts. Like there's no holding the camera frame on a second. So there's always something quick. So the mind would adjust. And you got 140 character tweets. And now it's memes. And we've as society a lot, we've trained away our attention span and that's how you can push through. Like a lot of the stuff that we're talking about now, people just see a headline and go no deeper than that.

Yeah, people aren't even reading anymore.

No, they're not reading. And even when they Are reading. They're reading to regurgitate. Not reading to have their own thoughts, to actually use their brain. We've removed that as well from the system.

Yeah, there's no critical thinking.

There's no critical thinking. We've just taught people how to regurgitate.

Yeah. It's a big issue, especially now with everything that's happening in the world.

Yeah. And the thing is, we're a lot of you, like, oh, my God. Like. And now that I look back, I mean, so like this stuff started before we were kids. It's been this incrementalism over the past 30, 40, 50 plus years. And that's what happens is, you know, you have your head. Ah. You just. You ignore it. And all of a sudden things happen. You're like, what happened? Well, that's been happening for decades, but nobody cared.

Terminator, dude.

Incremental.

Skynet.

Are you Sir Connor?

So I heard. I watched a video, actually. This is interesting. You'd find this interesting because you and I both like the Matrix and we like. The Terminator series apparently was based on a book that this woman wrote and she won this copyright infringement clause against Sony for like a couple billion bucks recently because she came up with Terminator. She came up with the Matrix and then they basically copped it. Created movies that have gone gangbusters.

Right.

But apparently.

The Terminator or John. John Connor is Jesus Christ jc, Right? He's Neo, the one who's in the Matrix. So it's pre. Neo. Is John Carter entering into the Matrix.

Which is like, interesting. Yeah.

So we're entering this AI This. Swipe left, swipe right, Quick fix, get the dopamine hit. What's next? What are you seeing up the pipe in all this?

So let's just back a little bit because this is where the last year and a half, I've had a huge shift in awareness. I mean, I was literally two weeks before COVID started. I was in Costa Rica for two weeks. And on one of those weeks, like, I was sitting with Shaman doing plant medicine ceremonies four nights in a row.

Yeah.

So it's like I'd gone down this path of all the worldly things, all the healing and all that stuff, and thought it was amazing. And then I got back, Covid hit literally two weeks later, because the last two weeks of February, we were in Costa Rica. Then Covet hit, everything was shut down. And I was like, this just. Something seems off here.

Could you imagine if you were gone for like a year and then you came back and everybody's wearing masks and everything that's happening.

And I called the whole thing wrong. I was like, this thing's gonna be over in two weeks. But the problem is, is I don't think, like, somebody that wants to control people.

Yeah.

And so I completely. Until I saw what was going on.

It was just nuts. And then there was the George Floyd thing. And it's like Covid basically disappeared for a week or two while George Floyd went on. I'm going, this just doesn't make sense. And it's. It's interesting, but I was 45, but I'd never, ever picked up the Bible. Yeah. And as I started reading that, it was the only thing that made sense, because then everything made sense, because, like, Scripture talks about good will become evil, and then evil will be called good. And really, you can see it all through the lens of order versus chaos. And anytime there's chaos, you know what's up. And then it's like looking for order. And as the more I got into that, it was just. It's like once you see it, you can unsee it. And when you run things through the filter of order versus chaos, you can tell what's operating.

Yeah. So walk us through that. How do you run things through that lens?

So.

Pick anything. So let's take the governor of California.

Let's take Governor. Governor Newsom.

Yeah, let's take Governor Newsom, who is mandating everybody. Stay home, all this other stuff. Mandating the business. Close.

Yeah.

Yet he keeps his business open.

Yet he's out. And again, I could care less if you're social distance mashed forever, but you're telling everybody else to do something, and you're doing something else, you're doing the opposite. So when you look at hypocrisy, being a hypocrite, that is not based on truth and order. That's based on lies and chaos.

Mm.

And so it's chaotic when you go to the airport, and every 90 seconds, you're telling people to stay. Stay six feet apart, stay six feet apart, stay six feet Apart. Oh. Except for the six hours you're gonna be on an airplane next to each other, Then you can be next to each other.

There's no order in that. That's chaos. Oh. And then when we serve food on the airplane, then everybody can take their mask off and eat. Like. Like, this is the most respectful virus ever.

If you're standing up, you need to have a mask on. But if you're sitting down with food, you don't.

I've seen a lot of memes like that?

Yeah, but it's like if it has to be a meme. But it's like people had to stop and go, that makes no sense.

That is chaos. The regulate. That doesn't make sense. So who is behind that? What is behind that? Is that good or Is that evil?

Evil 100%. Yeah.

And you can start running everything through that filter and you can see what's operating there now.

Is it a necessary evil, though? Does this have to be done to bring more people into the light, to wake people up?

I think it does. And there's a graph that I sent to people. Was actually in the front of. Actually I'll put up here on my phone just so you can see it. Maybe we can throw it in the show notes as well. It was from the front of one of my bibles and it was the John Maxwell. So he's got this little graph here and it's a triangle.

Can I see it?

Yeah. And then I'll look at it so I can read the world's judge and destroy. So basically it's got a triangle and it takes people through a process. So it's going from at the beginning. It works you up, you going, God and righteous people in paradise. And it's got the verses in Genesis and then it talks about things and you start coming back down. If we all know one of the goals that they're all talking about is this one world government. And that's biblical. That's straight out of, you know, Revelation, chapters one through 18. Yeah.

Eight kings. And there'll be eight massive continents coming together to create one new world order.

Yeah. And so if you look at this and we'll post in the show notes, but like you come off the top and that was basically.

You know, that's basically the New Testament acts through Jude and then you got this deceleration. Now you got the one world government. The world judged and destroyed, Satan and sin exit, and then God and the redeemed people in paradise. But we know that they want this one world government. They're not even hiding it anymore. Like Claus Schwab, who is the head of the World Economic Forum, wrote a book called COVID 19, the Great Reset. I mean, the thing is they're not even hiding these things anymore.

When Obama said it, he's like, we need a new world order.

They've all said it. I mean, going back and I think that was the awareness for me. I mean, anybody in these positions of extreme power and this isn't realize it's not political, it's not, oh, it's the Democrats versus Republicans. It's one in the same. It's essentially two heads to the same snake, you know, but it's that, you know, getting to this one world, this one world government where it's all biblical. And now you start. Because first I would read Revelation, I'd be like, this is cartoonish. But if you start looking at what's going on with AI, what's going on with transhumanism, when you start looking at some of these things, it really doesn't sound that far fetched at all anymore.

Yeah, well. And you guys, just so you know, Brooks is probably the biggest researcher that I've ever met in my life. Like, we've tested the Colby test a couple of times. And his ability to research and actually acquire facts and make sense of them is like, out of this world. So, yeah, you've probably spent thousands of hours looking into this stuff.

Tons. And that's where. So I started as I started looking at all that stuff when Covid was really hitting and all that. And that was where I wanted more than just reading on my own. So I think I told you, like, I started just for my own knowledge, you know, I started taking some classes in seminary school just because I wanted to be able to have conversations I didn't even know. I wanted to be able to go deeper into that more than you can get from YouTube videos or just, you know, reading on your own. Plus, it allows you to ask questions, have discussions, you know, those types of things.

Yeah. So you've, you've done the seminary classes?

Yeah, some of them. It's like, it'll be a couple years. It's not a race for me. I just, you know, take classes as I'm going.

And so is the, the jibbity jabbity and all the jabbawockies. Is this the mark of the beast?

I don't think it's the mark of the beast.

Okay.

Because what I really look as, we have to get to the One World Government first.

Yeah.

But when you start looking at, you're going to need a. I mean, things are already moving that way anyway. We all have numbers on our credit cards. Like, everything is moving.

Yeah.

To this place. And that's where I think you got to look a few steps ahead. The vaccine, it's to get people accustomed to vaccine passports and you got to have these things. It's that slowly incremental. And you can just look at history. Like, even you go back to Hitler. I mean, it was nine years.

Since really, things Started to get everyone. I think it's just going to go faster this time because of technology. Because you've got big tech, the media pushing it, pushing it. Everything is kind of set up. Everything is just going to go so much faster. I mean, look at Australia. They're 25 short years from basically giving up their guns and now they, I mean, I've got some close friends down there and they're, I mean this isn't just roll your eyes. I mean they're acts, they're worried about.

What'S going on and you got close friends there. So you're hearing from the inside.

Yeah, I'm hearing from the inside.

And what's happening, what's happening on the inside of Australia? Because I've heard things, I've seen videos, of course, from your friends. What are they saying?

It's, you know, it's moving towards this.

This kind of that police state, you know, this government control. I mean we saw Germany just now. They've got chicken wire basically splitting the lines. You know, there's an unvaccinated. But what is chicken wire gonna stop anything spreading? But it's just, it's just more division. And if you go back to, again you go back to scripture, the Bible, you know, there's, there's truth, order, there's love. And then you've got chaos, division, hate. All these things that are rooted in that to divide people.

Yeah.

A lot of the yogis from the past as well and other teachers have said there'll be two timelines. And even Hopi prophecies have shown people that have kind of connected to some of the pictographs or the hieroglyphics. Right. They'll show them leaving their body.

My buddy Kyle Kingsbury talked about this in a podcast I recently did with him. But it shows the, the pictograph of the, the humanity leaving their body, like connecting to some type of mental tech world. And then the people of the world are the rainbow people, the people that are here to bring the new earth that are not leaving this place. So I think it's, it's definitely part of the transhumanism.

Yeah, because that's what it is. So you have like in the end, like God created man and woman, like God created all this stuff. And now we have man that wants to use microchips, whatever, to create this metaverse to create basically a man made world, you know, that takes people out of God's made world into this man made world where there's, you know, whatever control, censorship, all these types of Things.

Yeah, I think they know in Paul Check. And I have talked about this on his show, and it's. We know that right now the vast majority of the world has nuclear warheads. And at any given point, they could use them, drop bombs, and then it'd just be a nuclear game over for the entire planet. We can't do that. It's too costly.

Right.

So now we have an autoimmune disorder where America and the rest of these countries are just going to war against themselves. And it's chipping people, it's being people.

It's a war. It's a war of information. It's doing it without bullets being fired. And the thing is, is doing it that way, people will willfully go along with it.

Well, it's like an autoimmune disorder. It's like the system's attacking itself, the body, the nervous system, call it the government and the media and everything else. That's like the central nervous system that can project.

Can project viruses and all these other thoughts, negative entities on us, raising our stress, raising our cortisol, which creates more sickness.

Yeah. Which is basically. You do that with fear.

We're attacking ourselves.

And that's why I try to tell people, what is the media's job?

Well, there's a lot of money in it, Right.

Because I used to say the media's job was to keep you informed.

Yeah.

And that's incorrect. Their job is to sell advertising.

Well, you love the media back in.

The day, you know. Yeah, I remember because I used to be. I was.

You were watching cnn.

You know, I. Yeah, that was. You watch the news. I mean, as I grew up, as a kid, like, you had the news on in the car. It was news, radio, it was the news. And at the Naval Academy, you got to know three news articles a day. Like, the news, the news, the news. And, yeah, it really wasn't for me until 2011 or 12 when I finally broke that habit. I was actually out in Arizona. You know, the ypo, Young Presidents Organization, they were. They had hired my buddy, and we were putting on like, a. A Navy SEAL leadership event for them. And because I'd gone through SEAL training, any of these guys, they had me help them out with that. And one of the nights we were sitting there with all these guys that are crazy successful, you know, business owners, and I was kind of shocked. We were talking like, none of them watched the news. They didn't read the news. Like, here's all these guys. And none of them. None of them paid any attention to the news. And I was just like, I was floored. I was like, huh? And that was kind of my first wake up call. And then so I did. I kind of went on a news fast and changes your life. It does. It literally changed your life. And I had a coaching call with somebody earlier this week, and we ended up spending two hours on that whole thing and seeing, like, look, you're going to get back a minimum of 10 hours a week, and you, you're taking. That's 40 hours a month. And that's essentially an entire full work week.

Yeah.

That's not serving you. It's putting you in fear. You're not feeling good. And now let's replace that with things that, that do serve you. Let's replace that with hobbies. Let's replace it with books you want to read, skills you want to learn, languages you want to learn. Spend time with your family, like all these other things. Yeah, but I mean, that's. I mean, that's what they did with.

COVID A lot of people are addicted to it. They feel like they have to be on the cutting edge of the information that's out there. So they watch CNN and NBC and all these.

They watch all. And it doesn't matter what you watch. They're all owned by the same four parent companies. But their whole job is to keep fear. You know, if you're watching Fox, CNN's the enemy. If you're watching CNN, Fox is the enemy. But that's what it is, because fear keeps you coming back.

Fear sells pharmaceuticals, too, 100%.

And that was a big thing for me because I. I mean, I haven't had cable in over six years. I really don't watch much TV at all. And I was actually out in. In Charlotte during the Olympics, and we were in a hotel room, and I love watching the Olympics. I. Back when I was swimming, I worked with Michael Phelps as coach for three and a half years. I qualified for the 2000 trial. So watching, especially the swimming, I love watching that. But every commercial break, there was at least three commercials for if you have this, call your doctor. And I mean, I was blown away. But I can see how the impact of that subliminally, if someone's watching tv all the, like, if there's a problem, there's a pill for it. So I could see why so many people up here's a problem. We have a vaccine for it. And people just go, oh, okay. Like, there was no.

No, I'm not gonna get healthy. I'm not gonna try anything. Just like, give me a pill for it. Got this. There's a pill for it.

Yeah, weight loss pills.

I mean, there's a pill. I mean, I can't believe. Now I heard there's a vaccine for chickenpox. Like when I was a kid and somebody had chickenpox, you just. I remember that I hadn't had chickenpox yet. And it was, I don't know, first grade, second grade, I don't remember, but it was like there was a kid with chickenpox. So they put me next to him on the. We were going on a field trip so that I could get chickenpox and I got chickenpox and I had, you know, red spots and itched and calamine lotion. Stayed home for two days. And then life goes on. So it's like, I don't understand why we start vaccinating for things that nobody's really dying from. You know, it's just, okay, it's an inconvenience, just part of life, but let your natural immunity beat that. And now we're seeing, because of that, we're seeing stuff with shingles. There's all, there's like, there's always going to be, for every action, there's going to be some sort of, some sort of reaction.

Yeah, I agree with that. And I think, you know, you've heard, you've actually heard from the inventor of MRNA saying this isn't the right thing. Thing to do.

Yeah. Robert Malone.

Yeah.

It's like, why do you, like, why is he getting censored on social media?

He created it.

I know.

He created the tech and he's getting censored.

Yeah, right. And so then it goes, is that order? Is that chaos? If somebody creates something, is that truth? So anytime there's censorship.

Yeah.

99 times out of 100, it's censoring the truth.

By the way, have you seen V for Vendetta?

I was a kid when that show was on.

I got to watch it again.

I remember seeing the commercials, but I never watched it cuz again. Even as a kid, I was always swimming. I, I got literally like an hour of TV as a week as a kid.

So V for Vendetta is exactly what's going on right now with censorship, with Big Brother, with everything. Yeah, got to see it.

But that's the thing with all these things. They don't hide it.

It's all out in the open.

It's all out in the open if you're aware of it. I mean, I think.

In some point in time, people are going to look back and see this is one of the biggest psyops the world has ever seen.

It's the biggest one. And it'll. It's a genocide, I think. I mean, it's. It's really. It's pretty scary, dude. What's happening and the dreams and the visions that I've had. I'm a big dreamer of, like, what's coming could potentially come on a timeline. Assuming that we don't, you know, assuming. I want everybody to wake up, of course. And I want people to call back their sovereignty and their power and work on their own personal immune systems.

Right.

And see through the illusions.

Right.

It's. It's now or never.

Right. But that's. But that's the thing is people. There's really been a war on personal responsibility for decades.

Because if somebody's healthy, they can't be easily controlled by somebody else. Yeah.

So they put fluoride in our water, which makes us more docile as humans. Like, who are going to be the rebels, who are going to be the people that stand up against this? What are we going to do? What's the plan?

Yeah. And it's interesting you bring that up because, you know, we were just getting these green juices, and I know you saw somebody. It was.

More on the effeminate side.

Yeah.

And so, again, I go back to this order versus chaos. And if you look at. Let's just take, for example, and we're just. I want to look at this very high level before people want to dive into the minutia. So in God's perfect order, there's man and woman. Like, they're both equal, but with separate roles. But then we started having this.

Let'S just call it like the women's movement. And really, it was in a nutshell, to make women more like men. You know, you don't need a man. And it was really based around finances.

And sort of things programmed. Men went to war, women stayed home, and they couldn't pay for stuff because the men maybe died or were gone. So they actually started working.

Yeah. And then it was. Then it was like, you don't need a man, all this other stuff. Anyway, you had this trend to getting women to be more like men. And then we've also had this other trend to have men be more feminine. We've got the metrosexual masculinity. You know, Max, you know, masculinity is toxic and all these types of things. So we have a perversion that's going on. So there was A perfect order. We have roles, and then it's just. And it's been incremental over decades. And then we're trying to get those roles to be reversed.

Yeah.

And that creates chaos.

Yeah. You have all the pronouns.

You have. And then, I mean, that's blown up in what, like the last literally couple years. I mean, order is. There's man and woman. Chaos is 50 plus genders. And now we're pumping that to kids. We're getting elementary school books. Like, we're introducing stuff to kids that they're not equipped for.

Yeah, I heard a.

The Bible talks about that profusely. Of.

Going after the kids.

Yeah.

Like, that's the enemy's goal. Because you get them while they're young, their brains malleable. Just like, I wish I'd have learned more languages when I was young. Like, that's a great time. You have kids. Because the mind is so impressionable. That's a great time to pick up multiple languages. As well as other things. As well as socialism is great, Communism is great. Like, you know, all these other things that are based on, to me, chaos. I mean, if you. Like China last month just banned the Bible app. And if you look at every single totalitarianism, communist socialist regime, one of the first things they do is ban the Bible.

So if this book is complete fiction, if this book is complete nonsense, if this book is not a threat, why is every single totalitarianism communist socialist regime, why do they try to get rid of that? Why is the first thing they do is to ban the Bible? Get rid of the Bible and persecute people that follow the Bible?

Like, they're not doing that with Star Wars. They're not doing that with Harry Potter. Like, they're doing it with the Bible.

And there's really no other book that they're doing it with.

Yeah. And even, you know, on bg, Bill Gates, one of his videos a while ago was, let's create a. And maybe it's removed now, but they wanted to work on a jab that would actually remove the DNA that was the seeker gene of seeking God. Like the genetic disposition for seeking God.

Yeah. And so if you're the enemy of God, like, there's a war. Yeah. There's a battle going on for souls.

Spiritual war.

Yeah, there's a spiritual war that's been going on since the Garden of Eden. And it started with a lie.

And that's. That's always the tree of knowledge. That's the, you know, it was, hey, you need. But don't eat from the tree of knowledge. Because then you'll know about good and.

Evil, which, by the way, on the back of the Apple phone is an apple that has a bite out of it, which is showing you the tree of knowledge.

Yeah, it's that whole thing. And do you know what the price of the very first Apple computer was?

$666. No way.

100. Yeah. Like, it's not. It's not, you know, it's not a. It's not. It's not hidden.

Sage is jumping on Brooks's lap.

Sage. Sage knows I'm a dog lover. I've got. I've got a bigger version of Sage.

Jay, we're. Jay, can you come grab Sage, please?

That's all good.

You sure?

Oh, yeah. Come on.

It's probably hard to talk, though. He's like, right on the mic.

No, it's good, right? Sage. Sage just loves. I'm dropping truth. He's like, man, I love this guy.

Okay, so we know that we're in this spiritual warfare and order versus chaos. We hear that.

What do we do?

Keep looking at things through the lens of order versus chaos and don't be afraid to speak up when you see it. Wake people up. And the thing is, I try to use that filter of order versus chaos because it's not. It's not political, it's not this. It's not that I don't try. Like, that's the only thing I'm really trying to find is a way. Like, what's a subtle way so that people are gonna. I mean, that's the whole thing. If you look at the Bible, it's gonna get. People are gonna start seeing it where everything else they've tried doesn't work. So then they'll finally look to faith. They'll finally look to. To Scripture.

Yeah.

And it's just. And that's. Again, you look at the cycle of nations when everything is good. Like, I don't need God, things are good. But then it's. In these times, like we're. That's what we're seeing now with everything's having Covid. People are starting to look. People are starting to seek man. Something's not right. And so they're looking at all sorts of things.

I've seen more and more people actually reading the Bible, posting about it.

100%.

Yeah.

And that's. And that's what's going to happen. Because they realize, wait a second, this is way bigger than me. They realize that there's something that we. That we have a purpose. Here there's something way bigger going on. And the thing is when you start reading it, you'll see for thousands of years it's the same patterns repeating.

Yeah, it's the same, you know, yeah, technology is a little different, but it's the exact same things, you know, and it's going back to that, to that faith.

So speaking of scripture and where we are, do you think maybe the flood that's in the Bible could be the flood of electricity currency that's like actually entering our, entering our environment today. Call it 4G, 5G, whatever it is.

I think those are just, those are just tools that go along with the big tech. That's just an evolution of try, of how they reach more people. I think if you look at Romans, Romans 1:18 to 32, I think that's pretty telling. And it's, it's got a history of things in the Bible and I'm just going to pull up my notes on it real quick. That way don't, you know, mess anything up.

Brooks has become a full, full blown pastor, you guys, since I, I spoke with him last. This is awesome.

Well, this is just where.

I mean, again, I had all the books, like all the worldly things and here's the thing, I wouldn't change anything that I've done. Everything that I did worked temporarily and I guess that's what I noticed about. So I mean, I think I've sat with plant medicine, different shamans. I mean, I've left the country. You know, I think I've done it 12 times.

But then I was realizing every time I got to go for something external to get to a state or get something like that's not, that's not a true sense of freedom. And it really was as I started reading this and that was when really it opened my eyes. And again, it's just from reading. And so at nights I just start reading it. It's like really, it is the most fascinating book.

It's a high, I mean, depending on what book you read in it, it can have a high, really high vibration. Especially some of the New Testament stuff.

Yeah, and I think that's, and I think because people ask me all the time, like how to get started, like, and there's a couple ways I would say one, go watch the chosen because it's just like if we talked about, you know, somebody getting in shape, if someone's extremely out of shape, you're not going to give them a five hour workout, the most extreme diet plan, because they're not going to stick with it.

So.

So a lot of people. There's a show called the Chosen. It's an app. Cause they did it through an app. So they had control of it. And this is what's crazy. The Chosen has. Let me look on my phone right now. It was 100% crowdfunded on a pay it forward method. So you can watch it for free. And if you pay, they have stuff from like 1495 to 10 grand. So if you pay 14.95, it lets 10 or 15 other people watch it for free. And they financed this entire thing that way. Not one penny of Hollywood studio money. And it's a class production. I mean, it's high class. It now has 315 million views.

No way.

It's the single most successful crowdfunded.

Like video movie production ever. That's gotten literally zero media attention.

None.

Because it's talking about the Bible. It's talking about the story of Jesus.

Damn, dude.

And so I think that's a great place for people to start is watch that. And then once you watch that, I'd say grab your. Start with your New Testament. And then once you've watched that, because Matthew was such a key character in the Chosen, start reading Matthew. And so basically Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are basically going to tell the same story, but from four different viewpoints. From the viewpoints of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And Matthew is the longest because you'll see he was the. He was very analytical, very detailed, took copious notes. You know, some say he might have been on the spectrum a little bit, but start at Matthew and just read to the end. And it's. It really is just such a fascinating. You start seeing it and. And then. Cause my core thing with coaching is life is an awareness game. And that opened up an awareness. And then I started seeing everything differently, seeing everything in this battle of order versus chaos. And I would say, I mean, you know how I used to be with the news, man. Like, I'm the nicest, most loving person. I would lose my mind over politics. I would get. I would get so.

I remember that.

I would get so like I'd want to debate and fight. You know, this whole thing's gone on. It's probably one of the most stressful times with this. I've just been really in such a state of peace of seeing what's going on, knowing that my heart's in the right place. And I think that's the thing now is just really helping to wake people up to that side of things.

I love that. So watch The Chosen.

Watch the Chosen. Again, that's because, again, because you're binge watching stuff on. I know you're sitting down on Netflix and you do it every night and you're like, you can't find something to watch. Just go watch the Chosen. And right now there's.

Is it on Netflix or is it on.

It's not on Netflix. It's an app. And then you can, you can watch it online or you can cast it to your. Cast it to your tv from your phone. From your phone.

We'll leave the link in the show notes.

Yeah, and there's two seasons of it and I'd say just give it a chance because again, when they first started, they had really small budgets, but they still did Hollywood level production. But it just keeps getting better and better in season two because the, you know, the money that's been pouring in, I mean, they got 315 million plus views.

That's insane.

I mean it's, it's really is. And like they'll have a billion. That's their goal. Their goal is to get a billion. I think it's in nine or 13 different languages. And so because I did, I paid it forward and it's just, it's really cool because I paid it forward and then they kind of track. And so I get like all the thank yous. So people.

No way.

Because, because the money I contributed to allows people. And so when they, when they send thanks and then I just get. Because I donated whatever, a couple thousand dollars. But it's like I get thank yous from people. So it's really cool. The model that they've done. And then right now they actually have a Christmas chosen special because of the app, but they have one. It's in theater actually. Started yesterday for a limited edition run. And it was cool. Was actually the number one movie in the United States. But don't see it. But don't in theaters. It's in theaters for like two weeks, I think maybe a little bit longer. It started out short, but they, they were getting so many dates filled up that they actually increased the run of it. But yeah, the US box office, yeah, it was number one because it opened and that was December 1st, so that was what, a Wednesday. And so yeah, it's going to be there for like two weeks. But I mean, it's, it's huge.

So nobody's talking about it again.

Nobody's talking about it because again, when you start seeing it, you look at Hollywood, you look at all that stuff. I mean, anybody in Hollywood that comes out is that. Wants to talk about that. They're done. Their career is over in Hollywood. Wow.

That's why I never made it in Hollywood. Childhood actor.

It's. I mean, look at a lot of them.

Yeah.

There's not a lot of happy endings there.

Crazy, man.

I mean, I had a good buddy of mine that I went through SEAL training and stuff with, and, you know, he was in there. I mean, he was in. I mean, he was right there with Josh Duhamel and Tyrese in Transformers. I mean, he was playing that game in Hollywood for years, you know, and in a sense, was doing well, and just. He saw it and left.

Crazy, crazy world, my friend.

It's a game for souls.

Yeah.

And, you know, a lot of people will sell their souls for short term. And I say short term, meaning this life not playing for eternity, not playing for the true bigger picture.

Yeah.

And I think that's the thing, too. Why is everyone freaking out about COVID and all these things? But it's like, when you really. When you realize that you're playing for eternity, the hundred years that we're on this. This rock, it becomes a blip.

Yeah. Nothing.

Yeah, it's nothing.

You're an infinite immortal being.

And then it is for me. I mean, it's just changed so much. It changed my clothes. It changed, you know, the things that I consume, the things that are important to me.

Yeah. I don't see you wearing any Givenchy anymore, dude.

I saw. I gave. I gave, like, $8,000 to a friend. You know, if it fit people, I gave it to them. And whatever. They didn't. Whatever they didn't want or didn't fit them, I use the real real. I mean, I've sold, like, 20, $30,000 where the clothes on the real real. And it makes me cringe because, I mean, I could have put that money in crypto. I could have invested it. Like, there's so much I could have done. But, like, we were talking earlier, that was just. I was still. I thought I needed that stuff to show that I was worthy. I was enough that I was worthy, that I was successful because I had. You know, and again, there's nothing wrong with having or liking nice things. But, yeah, there was definitely a. You know, there was a phase that I went through.

That's beautiful, brother.

Yeah.

Sage is losing it. We have Christmas trees being delivered as we speak.

Awesome.

Brooks did this on the fly, you guys. I was like, hey, can you come in and just record a podcast with me? Because I want them to hear your story and what you're up to in the world. I know he has a booming coaching business right now, so if you're interested. Reaching out.

Yeah.

To Brooks, following him where? Where can the Drew and you family find out more about you, Mr. Brooks Holland?

I think right now Instagram is great. I'm just life of underscore Brooksie. Life of Brooksie on Instagram. You can find me on Facebook.

Yep.

And then the other roundabout way is my wife is Natalie Jill. Yeah, I know she's got.

And you may. You may see some cool cars on there, too, you guys. He's a big car guy like myself.

Yeah, I'm a big Porsche guy. I've been going to the racetrack for 20 years. I raced for about three and a half.

I just don't ever race him.

Long story short, you'll get smoked.

I'm good. It's my happy place.

Yeah, it's fun.

Yeah. Just no stereo, no cruise control, no power steering, no antique brakes. Just a really good place to be connected. It's very analog. Just get to be present, you know. Enjoy it.

Beautiful. Well, thanks for coming on the Drew and you show, brother.

Thanks for having me, brother.

Always good to see you.

Always good to see you, too.

Awesome. We're in this together.