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In a brief dialogue at the Long‑Term Strategy Conference 2024, Chris Fox (Speaker A) argues that genuine long‑term planning should focus on the immediate next action rather than distant milestones such as net‑zero targets for 2030 or 2050. He expresses frustration with organizations and governments that publish ambitious climate plans but show little concrete progress in the short term, warning that such behavior merely postpones accountability and may lead to ever‑later goal dates. Fox introduces the concept of the "Next Best Action" (NBA) as a practical framework: instead of setting far‑future targets, decision‑makers should identify and execute the most impactful step they can take today, thereby building real momentum toward long‑term change. Speaker B acknowledges the point and helps clarify the NBA terminology.

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