How to Be a Stand-Up Comedian with Brent Pella

Brent Pella. Dude, this is. This is an honor, man. I'm a huge fan.

Thank you, bro. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you for real. I was. I was before we met, and, you know, I'm just happy to make friends with people that I'm already fans of, so I don't feel as weird around them.

I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah, man. I just. So it was a pleasant surprise. So I. I went and saw you do stand up. My wife and I here in Austin, Texas, a couple months ago. And then I went. JP Sears had a show, and JP Is a personal friend of both of ours, and it was cool. He said, hey, text me when you get here, and I'll bring you back to the green room. And I had my funny thing to say to JP Lined up. I was gonna be like, hey, are there any funny comedians here that are in the green room that I can hang out with? And Eddie opens up the secret door to the green room, and I walk back, and you're back there. That was a total pleasant surprise. I had no idea that you were opening up for him, man.

Yeah. Yeah. So the answer was yes, there was one.

There was one significantly funnier comedian. Yeah, it's funny that. That's. Actually, I discovered you. I found one of your videos. I think it was the mask video. I think that was the first video of yours I saw. And I, like, I showed it to my wife. I said, hey. I was like, he's kind of like JP Sears, but funnier.

And then I text JP And I said, hey. I said, you. You should do a video with this guy. And he said, dude, we recorded it, like, three days ago, and it goes on YouTube tomorrow. I was like, oh, that's. That's awesome.

So, yeah, that's great, man. Yeah, I love J.P. we met a couple years ago pre Covid. Pre. Pre Pandy days. So we kind of went through that whole transitionary phase with our comedy together. But, yeah, it's been a blast. And it was super cool to see out in Austin, too.

Well, that's what I love about your comedy is, you know, I was just to brush up. I was on your YouTube looking at your videos, and I was like, your range is really dynamic. You know, JP for example, used to be all about spiritual comedy, and then you went really hard into political comedy, and you hit on political comedy. Right? But then you have, you know, like, with Nikki Howard, your. Your partner in crime, the couples comedy, and, you know, and you do. You Do a lot of impressions. Yeah.

So, yeah.

So I like. I like that you're. You know, it's like if somebody were to look at your YouTube channel, they're like, I'm not sure what his exact beliefs are or where he leans, which is great. It's kind of. It appeals to everybody. Right. Your Biden impression's great. You're. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. You know, I thank you for that. That's a cool thing to kind of hear somebody's perspective when they're trying to figure out, oh, what's this guy all about? And I think that's been both a blessing and a curse, in a way, in the whole Hollywood game and just entertainment in general and trying to make a career.

Yeah.

Because you really do. I've seen a lot of people really create this foundation of following and fans and. And support because they plant their flag. Yeah, right. And they stick to a certain belief or a certain style of comedy, even if it's outside of the political realm. Like, it's just this thing. It's just impressions of this guy or it's just topical comedy. But, like, I just. I just enjoy so many different things that I kind of made the conscious decision a few years ago to do whatever I thought was fun. And if that means slow growth, cool that I. As long I'm going to be happy to grow slow, you know, so it's interesting to hear you say that, because that is kind of. That's been a choice along the way.

Yeah, that. That is cool. That. And for me, that similarly, you know, I'm not a comedian, but with, you know, podcasting and writing and being an online influencer or whatever you want to call it, I obviously have, you know, some opinions around things, and where I've landed is what's my objective. My, like, you know, I'll see a topic or. And I'll like passionate. Like, man, I want to share this, and my wife will keep me grounded. And remind me, sweetie, your mission is to inspire people. If you go hard on any one opinion, right.

You're.

You could, you know, turn off half of the audience, and now you can't help them anymore. Right. And so same with you. You, you know, if you do take that, plant that flag like, JP's done, right. Which more power to him because he's grown a lot since then. His audience has. But, yeah, by planting that flag, you. Then you turn off, you know, half of the audience, and now you're not going to make those people laugh when your comedy makes everybody laugh.

Which is co. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. And, you know, the objective, the mission, what is. And for me, it's typically the thought process is like, what is the value that I want to put into the world? Like, is tweeting something political or sharing an article or making a video like this? Does that align with the values that I personally want to put into the world? Plenty of people whose value they want to put into the world is specifically progressive liberal ideas or conservative value. And that's totally fine because that should happen. We should have people.

Sure. We need that, too.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. My value has always been like, how can I comment on the absurdity of what's happening? Yeah. And just kind of share an opinion that might bring people from different sides of the spectrum into this opinion, you know, so that's what's prevented me from going, like, fully one way or the other on certain things. Although I do lean from time to time, and that's just fun. Sure. Yeah. It definitely is like that.

I feel like you just said something that, you know, we. I feel like unity is what we need now more than ever. Right. So if you can be unifying, where you're not picking a side on any topic. Right. You're saying, hey, like, what's bigger than that? To me, what's bigger than that is our humanity. Like, I always say that what we have in common trumps what our differences are superficial. You believe this, you believe that, you think this, you think that.

Right.

Versus. Oh, you're a human being, and so am I. And we're on this journey called life. And that, to me, trumps everything. And then therefore, values like kindness and love and unity, that trumps. You know, you can't say Trump now without there being this association. But.

So.

Yeah.

All right. So this morning, I was. When I went to YouTube to start just refreshing my Brent Pella material, I ended up. A Norm MacDonald video popped up, and I ended up. Instead of spending an hour watching your videos, I just watched Norm MacDonald video this morning.

An hour much better spent.

Yeah, man. And it is. It's so true. He's one of those artists that I didn't appreciate until he was gone. And then I started to hear other comedians talk about him and you know who. And then I saw. Did you see his. The last standup he did on the Letterman show? Did you see that?

I don't think I did, no. Was it recent? In recent years?

It was before he passed. I mean, in the last year or so. I'll send it to you. It was Powerful, because it was an incredible set. Hilarious. And then toward the end, and no one knew he was dying of cancer except for him. And toward the end, he starts saying, I think this is the last time that I'll be on the show. And he just broke down and started crying and was like, dave, I love you. You've done so much. Anyway, so. Yeah, man, I'm a fan. Who are some of your favorite comedians? It's a good segue.

Yeah. Of all time. You know, Jim Carrey is up there. My mom. I. I grew up with a single mom, and we would watch Saturday Night Live all the time. This is right after the Chris Farley era going into Will Ferrell era, and then the Lonely island era after that with Andy Samberg. Yeah. So, you know, Will Ferrell is, like, in my top three. He's on my Rushmore. Jim Carrey, for sure. Especially what he was doing on. On In Living Color, you know, the whole fire. Fire marshal Bill, fire marshall Bill.

I was. I watched it. Yep.

Right. And you know, I love Eddie. I love what Eddie used to do. And Robin Williams, man, you know, just his. His insanity. His controlled insanity is something I absolutely love. And also, those guys that I just mentioned all dipped into drama really well, too. Robin Williams, Jim Carrey, they all did a really good job anytime they were a part of a drama project. And I. I like that a lot because, you know, a lot of comedians are, like, broke. It. You hear those cliches that comedians are, like, broken inside or like, something terrible had to have happened. Yeah, for some, maybe, but for others, I think, you know, comedians have a certain perspective toward the world that allows them to see the light and the dark, and that's what helps them facilitate their commentary on what's happening in society. And so I always liked comedians who could do really well, both in comedy and in darker drama projects, because it really showed another side of humanity that I think a lot of other actors who maybe only do drama wouldn't be able to reach.

Well, yeah, I honestly think that, like, Adam Sandler is a good example of someone who I think is a way better dramatic actor.

Right.

Way better dramatic actor than comedic actor. His comedy, it's, you know, it's. It's all right.

I like his style. Yeah. But for him in draw, in the drama world. Incredible.

Did you see Hustle, his. His newer one?

Yep. Loved it.

Such a good movie, man. Such a good movie.

Uncut gems. Phenomenal.

Yeah. Now, are you a fan of so my favorite comedian right now, next to Brent Pella. Right. So Second favorite comedian. Yeah. Is Nate Vergozzi. Are you at all, dude?

Absolutely. Yeah. He's one of the best storytellers I've ever heard. Dude.

He's so subtle. He's so funny. He's so clever. Yeah, man. Yeah. Fan. All right, so let's. Let's talk about your start. So actually, I have to mention this selfishly, so this doesn't apply to my audience, but everybody listen. A buddy of mine, Garrett Gunderson, has been doing comedy tour for the last couple of years. He's been touring the country and his background is like a financial expert. And he just decided, like, I'm going to get out of my comfort zone and, you know, make this bucket list thing happen. And now he's doing shows all over the country. And so he recently reached out and said that I could open for him at his next show. Now I am. I'm a keynote speaker. I tell jokes in my spiel, but I'm not a stand up comedian. So I'm like, I'm terrified. And I want to do it right because I'm like, I got to get out of my comfort zone and do this thing. So I want to hear, you know, from somebody that's a professional comedian that's absolutely hilarious. Like, how did you start with? How did you get your start? And then I might pick your brain for, like, how do I write jokes? But let's start with, like, I want to hear your background.

Yeah. So, you know, I was doing when I was in high school, going into college, and then all through college, my favorite. The biggest thing in comedy was Andy Samberg and the Lonely island guys on Saturday Night Live. This is.

How old are you, by the way? To give context.

Yeah, I'm 32. This was 2008 through 2012. 2013. Ish. So this was basically my entire college. This was. Was.

Dude, I thought you were way older than that. Continue.

That's what everybody says. You see top of my head, you would have thought I was 40.

So now just your.

I thought 40 was just your face.

But I'm 27 in the body.

They were. This is back when SNL was like crushing on digital shorts and they were just super, super funny. And so they were such a big inspiration for me and all my friends. We started shooting little comedy sketches with like a handycam. Right. This is pre iPhone. This is handicap made. Yeah. And. And then in college, we did it a little bit more. And I got into film and media in college and made a couple of comedy music videos just for fun. I was also making like music videos for local hip hop artists in Santa Barbara.

Okay.

And just as like a part of my filmmaking kind of self experience, I was in the film program in college too. Okay. And I realized that, you know, I'm making such good videos for these guys. Why don't I make a comedy video for myself? And so I did, and it went viral in the UC Santa Barbara scene. And we, we would play it at like frat parties and we would play it at house parties. It was crazy. It was super fun.

What was the topic of that? What was that video?

The first one was called Bike Path Love.

UC Santa Barbara has miles of bike paths and people are half naked just all the time, you know, in bathing suits and whatever. And there's gorgeous girls biking around the bike paths all the time. And I felt like I was falling in love every time I.

Every time.

It's still out right now. And it got like really big in, in the UC Santa Barbara scene. And that was my first kind of like taste of any type of success with entertainment or comedy. And I still, I wasn't taking it seriously at all. It was just for fun. Yeah. And I moved to LA after and I'm making more music videos and short films with a buddy of mine, but I really wanted to get into comedy, so I dove into stand up and. And improv. Actually, here's a cool story. Here's, here's a very, Here's a cool story of how I. A little more detail. So when I was in la, I first moved to Los Angeles, I was working at the Cheesecake Factory, which I truly believe that everybody in America should be forced to work at a restaurant for two years. Yeah. The same way people in Europe are forced to work in the army, people in America should be forced to work.

My wife feels the same way. Yeah, she was in. Yeah, she feels the same way.

So I was at Cheesecake Factory for my first full year in la, and a friend of mine was at LMU and was on campus and sent me a picture of this flyer that was posted up on a, on a building and it said, casting extras for a Lonely island music video. Call this number. And I saw that and I looked at the picture and in the bottom right corner there was a, there was a logo. It was like a CC logo and it said caviar. And I thought to myself, you know, I could, I could go be an extra. But wouldn't it be cooler to try to like weasel my way into some type of assistant position so I could be like, really behind the scenes and learn about these dudes and what their process is. So I googled Caviar. Turns out it's Caviar Content, a production company out in la. I start calling. I just call Cold Call and I'm trying to get in touch with the producer. And obviously you don't do that. You don't just call a production company and ask to get in touch with like a high level person. So immediately they say no. The next couple days they say no. So then I call back and I pretend like I'm a producer from a different production company. And this time they transfer me to a producer. And as soon as I get in touch with that producer, I pretend like I'm somebody else. I say, hey, I'm working with this great kid. He's a pa, A production assistant. I'd love to. Like.

So like, you, you were your own agent essentially.

Exactly. But for like an assistant. Assistants don't have agents. I had no idea what I was doing. But yeah, I, I said I must have said the right thing because this person then gave me the number for the production manager, which is who you really want. That's the person that, that fills out all those roles.

Okay.

So now I have this person's number and I call her and she doesn't pick up. So I leave a message to say, hey, my name is Brent. I just graduated college. I would love to be an assistant. I' for a paycheck. I just want the experience. Whatever. She doesn't pick up for like five days. I'm texting, I'm calling at least once a day, no more than twice a day, because I don't want to be insane, but seven days straight, I call for sure. And then we get to the night before the shoot. And now I'm nervous because the only. This is the only time I've ever heard of like a PA type of opportunity. I don't know anybody in the industry. I'm fresh out of the Cheesecake Factory. I got soup all over me. And I just want the chance to work on set. Yeah. And so I call her at like 5pm, the shoot is the next day, and she picks up for the first time and she's like, yes. And I say, hey.

Is this Sarah or whatever? And she goes, yeah, is this Brent, my favorite stalker? And I was like, oh, hey, I'm sorry. I started apologizing and I said, you know, I just, I really want the opportunity to do this. And I'm not looking for a paycheck. I'm in the Film program at school. I just graduated and I'm a comedian. And she goes, okay, you know what, here's what's gonna happen. And I want you to know that this is not the way that things happen in Hollywood, okay? So don't expect this to happen, okay? But I'm gonna bring you on as an unpaid intern. Okay? So your call time is 5am I need you to pick up 3 gallons of Starbucks on the way. Nice. I was so excited, dude. Oh, yeah, brought me on. So then I was a PA On a Lonely island video. And here's the kicker. I meet the producers on set. They keep bringing me back to more jobs. In the months after that, I quit Cheesecake Factory. So now my day job becomes a PA And I start living on set and learning on set at age 22. And on that particular shoot, on that Lonely island shoot, it was a two day shoot. And on the last day after rap, Andy Sandberg is drinking a beer in the crafty line and having some food. And I go up to him and I'm like, hey, man, I was super nervous. I was like, hey, you know, I just finished school. I do a couple of like comedy videos online per month. You know, I'm curious, what did you guys do when you first moved out to L. A? Were you just doing videos? Did you pitch shows? And he goes, oh, well, you know, when I first moved to la, I did stand up. And I was doing stand up in New York too. And you know, I was never very good, but I did stand up for like seven years and it really helped me write and get used to being in front of people and. And that's when it kind of like clicked for me. And so after that I started doing open mics. And that was kind of the. That was the kick in the ass that I guess I needed to hear to start doing open mics.

So that gave you, gave you direction. It gave you, okay, clarity. Oh, this is what I'm. Sandberg said, do, do stand up. I'm doing stand up.

One of my heroes said he did this and he would got better from it. Of course I got to do that. So that whole experience of chasing that opportunity down is what kind of set a foundation for the future?

Yeah, well, such a cool story. And one of the, you know, the lesson from that to me, for anybody listening right, is persist until you succeed. You know, how many of us would have called every single day and wrist. You know, I mean, I think most be like, oh, I. I don't want to annoy them or I don't want to turn them off or I don't want what you're like, dude. I, I, I gotta get their attention. I got. Right.

Yeah, I love that.

I love that.

Yeah, that whole closed mouths don't get fed trope, you know, that's, it's very real. And if, if you can figure out a way to consistently stalk and annoy somebody without them fearing for their safety, I think that's, that's the key.

Yeah. I don't know why that story reminded me or the, the stalking portion of the, the weird Airbnb guest video that you did.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I've showed that one to my kids.

Yeah, that's a fun one.

Yeah, that's great. So let's talk about the comedy landscape right now. You know, one of the things that I thought about is I thought, man, like, so my audience is really diverse, right. But if I had to pick the majority, probably 60% is women, like 40 to 50 years old. Right. And then 40% is, you know, I mean, men that range, range, and then a few younger folks. Right. But it's, but that's kind of the, that's the, the, the majority. And so I thought, man, a lot of Brent's videos would probably be offensive to some of my audience. Right. And I personally am. I'm not a big fan of being offended. Like, I just feel like being offended is a personal choice. It, you know, and it's become so prevalent now that, like, you know, being offended is like a badge of honor. Yeah. So I'm just, I'm curious as to your, your view of the comedy landscape over the past few years.

Yeah, it's almost like being offended is a, is an accomplishment sometimes, you know? Yeah. The past few years, it's been wild. I, I didn't do political comedy until Covet until, like, April, May of 2020. I just didn't, it didn't interest me. I didn't think politics were interesting to talk about. I thought it was boring and cliche and, and had been done. And so I was in more of the topical comedy observational world, and 2020 hit, and I just personally saw a lot of stupidity happening, subjective stupidity. I thought that some of the things were stupid. I thought people who wore masks outside with no one around were being stupid. And I also thought that people.

Who would, like, openly argue at stores for stuff were stupid. There was just a lot of dumb in the world, and I think a lot more people started recognizing those dumb things around the same time and just kind of waking up to the seeing how the world actually operates in 2020. Because now we're under more control than ever with lockdowns and mandates and masks and vaccines and all of these things that prior to then, we never.

Never thought about. Yeah.

With. Or think about. Yeah. And with that shift, I think a lot of people traveled to one end of the belief spectrum or the other, and that made a lot of people team up. And the, you know, tribalism is natural in any group of social animals. Right. But we created this crazy, like, toxic tribalism in 2020 that allowed people the opportunity to.

Kind of vocalize how offensive they got and then be supported by other people who could. Could encourage them to. To. To share how offended they were. And that. That was almost. It was almost like a virtue signaling type of thing. It's almost like getting. It's like an echo chamber effect, right, where you. You call out how offended you are because this comedy video did this. Or you shouldn't be talking about masks or why would you ever, you know, talk down to Republicans? They're trying to free America or like, whatever the case is. And then that person on Twitter or Facebook or in their own little vlog, they would then have hundreds or thousands of comments of people saying, like, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate that person, too. And yeah, yeah.

And it gives this. It releases more of those happy chemicals in your brain because you're getting the support and the notifications and the comments and the likes and the views and. And it's this rush of a high stemming from choosing to be offended or stemming from choosing to have a fight online. And for comedy specifically, that was good and bad. The good is that now comedy lives in extremes. It lives in heightening things into absolute madness. So as society itself is heightening into absolute madness, now, comedy's boundary is way further than it was because the level of insanity is so high that now we as comedians can mock that in an even higher way. Right?

Totally.

And that's really fun. I think that's super fun. And the negative is that if you're going to make a comedy video and be political about it now the landscape is so polarized that a lot of my friends feel like they have to choose one side or the other. I've even felt like that before, but I naturally gravitate toward one side or the other when I'm poking fun at a. At a topic. So it's just. It's just crazy that the. The landscape has changed to the point where people vocalize being offended. So Much more often. And, And. And vocalize, like, you know, as if they want to rile up people in their same belief circle to be against that guy. And, and we don't. We never had that before. We don't need you to pick up, you know, surround yourself with a tribe of people who hate somebody for their comedy video. Just don't watch it, dude. Yeah, yeah. And years ago, that's what it was. Years ago it was, ah, that's not really for me. Let me move on totally. But now it's like, oh, I don't like that. And I need everybody to know that I don't like that.

And to me, it says so much more about the person that's hating. Right. It's like you're hating on this parody or this comedy. Right. You know, I don't think that really says the comedians doing something wrong so much as. And that's the thing about comedy that's always been like, the debate is, you know, are there any topics that are off limits? And I, I don't. I personally, I mean, I don't want to say that there aren't. Yeah. I mean, something that if something's deeply offensive to somebody and you know that, and then you're intentionally trying to hurt them when, you know, you know. Yeah. Right. But so. But I think for the most part, you can make fun of almost anything.

I can make fun of anything. There are certain things on the extreme that people just simply don't really make fun of.

Yeah.

Because it's really hard to make something funny about a certain topic. Right. But if you can do it creatively.

And actually it's funny. Yeah.

Then do it. Right. Whether it's, you know, 9, 11 or the Holocaust or some terrible, terrible thing.

Yeah.

It's not off limits. It's just way more challenging to actually create a joke that won't come off as having bad intentions or won't just simply have bad intentions. Like, is the intention of the joke to make people laugh and lighten the mood around this specific topic so that we can break that barrier of taboo and actually approach this issue or this. This topic with a smile for once instead of letting it just breed negativity? But that's the thing now is, you know, it used to be just those couple of examples that I just mentioned. Now, what's off limits? Ooh, don't make fun of climate change, dude. Don't make fun of California's governor. Don't make fun of. Buy it. Don't make fun of Kamala. She's a She's a woman of color. She's in a position of power. You know what I mean? Like, anybody in a position of power deserves to be mocked. It doesn't matter who they are. And so now we have all these crazy new rules from people online in the comedy landscape, trying to set limits on what we can and cannot make fun of. And I think that's awful. I don't like that at all. So that's me and people like JP and others. We don't see those limits. We just barrel right through and try to mock whatever we think deserves a little mocking, you know, and to be.

Fair, like, like I mentioned earlier, where, you know, you kind of appeal to everybody, like your, Your political videos early on, right. You did the, the. The Joe Rogan hosting the debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump, right?

Yeah.

So you made fun of everybody. Like, it wasn't. You weren't making. You weren't picking a side and poking fun. You were making fun of everybody. Right. Which is, I think, even good SNL skits, they do the same thing, right? They're making fun of. Of. Of all. Of all of all that. Like you said, people in power. By the way, who was the guy. So you did the Biden impression. You were phenomenal, right?

Who.

Who was the guy that did the Trump impression? Because he was great, too.

Yeah, that's Austin Nassau, super funny. One of the best Trump. Trump impersonators I've ever seen. That Biden impression I did was actually really. I didn't like it at all. Now, I don't like. Back then, that was the first time I had ever done it. And I. It started to. It started to become Southern for some reason, like the KFC guy, the Colonel. So looking back, I'm like, oh, that didn't deliver. The look was good. I think the physicality was good. But it's gotten a lot better since then. But that was a good one. Yeah. And then I did another one that was Joe Rogan talks to politicians, and that included, like, Ted Cruz. It included Mitch McConnell's turtle self. It included a couple others, too. And on that video, what's funny is somebody commented, like, why would you make fun of Ted Cruz? And I was like.

Yeah, kidding. Yeah, why would I not? What. So, you know, the, The. The questions and the offendedness or the make do this, but not that kind of mental.

You can make fun of someone I don't like, but you can't make fun of someone I do like.

Right, Exactly. And that.

Which is so silly.

It's crazy. It's everywhere. And, you know, and that's someone that's.

Not a fan of comedy, essentially. Right. I would, I would imagine, you know. Right. They're just, they're not into comedy. And so, I mean, there's.

Yeah.

There's.

They're not in the comedy. They're. They're into, you know, hating on the libs or whatever. Yeah. You know what I mean? To owning the libs. And so why would I ever mock somebody that's conservative? They couldn't understand it. But that's, that's the thing. That's where we once were. We were once in a spot where you could do anything to anybody through the lens of comedy, and now it is this, like, do this, but not that mentality. Not everywhere. I will say this. The, the audience that I've started to recognize in. Yeah. And attract in my corner of the. The game.

Yeah.

Has been very similar to me. And they, they really react well when a side isn't chosen or when I flip back and forth between videos and topics mocking this side, that side, this thing, that thing. Yeah. I've seen a lot of love for that and that, that's what really gives me faith that a lot of people out there, even if they lean one way or the other, they can recognize comedy for comedy and they don't have an expectation of you automatically taking their side first. So I do love that because that's where I currently stand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's the thing. You always are going to get hate. Right. No matter what. You just have to realize that that's about them and their perspective. And I'm going to do what I do and come. And that's. That's the thing. You mentioned intentions. I think that's it. You're like, if I'm coming from a good place, sure, I'll either I'll make mistakes from time to time or I will absolutely offend someone from time to time, but as long as I know that I'm living in alignment with my values, I can sleep at night, I can feel good. Right. And I don't have to take anybody else's stuff personally. Right. You think that that's, that's okay. You're entitled your opinion. Right. I'm not going to take that on. You mentioned that you didn't like your Biden impression. It is funny how impressions to. Can slide. Right. You can just, you can just. All sudden you wake up one day and you're like, my impression has this Southern Colonel Sanders.

Colonel Sanders. Yeah, yeah.

My, my. Like, whenever I do acts. I can't do accent. So that's my. I don't do a lot of impersonations, but I'll try to do an accent and my wife's or my daughter will call me and she's like, dad, that. My. My daughter loves doing English accent. She's 13. And I'll try to talk back to an English accent like that. You sound, you know, Japanese or Chinese or Mexican. Like, you don't. You don't sound like.

Stop. Yeah.

Ruining. Ruining an English accent 10 countries away. Yeah, so. Exactly. So I'm curious as to your. You mentioned that the Biden impression you don't like.

What.

What have been your A. Your favorite impression to do? Which one do you enjoy doing the most? I mean, you've done Eminem, the rock, Gary Vaynerchuk. Right on and on. So what's been your favorite and what's the one that either you think you nail the most or people have told you it's the most accurate?

Yeah, that's a great question. And thank you for allowing me to now feed my ego even more, please. This is what. This is my breakfast today. So my favorite one, you know, I think I gotta say Eminem, because that was the first one that ever popped, and I didn't even expect it to really pop. And I'm such an Eminem fan. I think he's the greatest rapper of all time.

Yeah.

It forced me to start writing my parodies like him. Because if you're gonna do a parody of Eminem and have it be good, you have to write in his writing style. You have to nail these double entendres, triple entendres, these delivery patterns, these, you know, rhyme schemes throughout the verse and throughout the bars. And so that was really fun creatively. That was an awesome creative challenge. And he's just so angry. Yeah, he's just so intense and angry, you know, and he's so intense. And I love the. Being like a high energy guy. I love that. I love dipping into that kind of frame of mind. So I really like that.

People have told me that of all my impressions, the Joe Rogan sounds the most like Joe Rogan.

Yeah.

It's funny because I never really tried super hard to sound like him. So I think maybe we just have a similar. Similar natural cadence vocal quality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was fun too. And then of course, the Gavin Newsom one has just done so well with California because nobody was really doing a Gavin. Yeah.

It'S Gavin Newsom, baby.

You know, he sounds like he's gargling marbles. So that's. That's why I lose my voice every time I do Gavin.

Every nice.

Every time. I can't wait.

You gotta get your. Get all throaty.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's just the whole time. But, yeah, it's all. It's all been super fun. You know, I never thought I would be a. An impressionist of any kind, so I started doing it. But, you know, I'm such a nerd for just like, human behavior and psychology.

Yeah.

That when I approached doing some of these impressions, I just. I love picking apart the. The behaviors and the physicality and. And the like, decision making behind saying certain things for certain people. So it's been fun. Yeah. Yeah.

That's cool. So probably my. One of my favorite recurring themes in your videos are how bros talk about blank. How bros talk about politics, how bros talk about nuclear war, how bros talk about the. The crisis in Ukraine. Right. Like, so. So that. I mean, that's. Those characters are just so funny. Like, you do all of the. You know, the guy rubbing soap on it, right. With the ocd, washing his hands the whole time. And so here's my question. I've thought about this. I'm like, how does he film this? Like, I just not being behind the scenes and never done a video where you're playing. And for anybody listening that doesn't. Hasn't seen this. Like, he's playing four different characters typically, right? Three. Three to four different.

Yeah, yeah, three.

And then you have your buddy with the curly hair.

Oh, Blake. Yeah, Blake.

Is he, like, a good friend of yours?

He is, yeah. He's one of my good friends and he's been in some of those videos. But the series I think you're talking about is just. It's usually just me breaking down some, like, really deep.

Topic within society. I'm writing one right now that's bros talk about quantum physics. And because my uncle is like a rocket scientist, visual or not, a virtual reality developer. Create smartest person I know. And he's helping me write this, like, quantum physics version. And the. The inspiration behind doing those is like, I'm a bro. I grew up a bro.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I partied, I drank. I'm. I'm a total bro, you know? But I also have seen my own evolution into the conscious space and the wellness space and just being more aware of life in general. And now I feel like I am a bro that also loves to pick apart these topics and learn about things. And. And so when I do these characters it's funny because each one has their own very specific framework for how they think about things. And it's been such a fun way for me personally to learn about a topic because now I got to dive into the war in Ukraine or how they say they killed the guy out in Iran a year or so ago or whatever it is. And I have to, like, actually learn about it and then almost translate it into bro.

The bro talk.

You know, I gotta. I gotta figure out, okay, what's the metaphor for, like, weed that can fit in here or whatever. Yeah. And so. So it's fun. Yeah. I shoot each character one by one, and. As if I'm talking to the other characters in the room. And then I cut it all together to make it look like a full conversation. So it's basically. It's. What it really is is a. A translation of the insanity of my brain onto my living room couch. It's bringing all the people that live in inside of my head and put them on the couch and.

Real different, very. The different nuances of your bronus.

Yeah, exactly. There's all sides of the bro of Brett, so.

Well, what I love is you have the one. And is that. Is that if I remember correctly, right? Like, the one bro, which maybe is the closest to who you really are. Like, doesn't. And it does. That always drops the knowledge. Isn't that. Isn't that a theme?

Yeah. Yep, yep.

Like, he actually gives the highly intelligent. Right. The other guys are like, whoa, dude.

What? Yeah. And he's drinking a four loco the entire time.

So funny. So that's the way you film it.

So you.

You write the whole thing out, right? Like, the whole script. And then you sit there in one. You dress in the one character, and then you read one line and then pause and then read that next line. Right. And then you cut it all together.

Yeah. So I'll deliver all of his lines and all of his reactions and all of his improv lines. If I, you know, I have a script, but I always. There's always some element of improv to everything I do. So I'll do that. I'll run through all of the lines a couple different ways, maybe two or three takes of each line, reactions to everything that everybody else is saying. Then I'll change and go to the next spot, and I'll run through all that person's lines and reactions to his left, to his right, whatever it is. And then, yeah, chop it all together. And it looks like one fluid conversation. And a lot of people have been like, Wait, is that. I watched the whole thing three times before realizing they were all Brent.

Oh, shut up. How funny. Yeah, no, it's. I mean, dude, you. It is so well done. Like, the product, not just the acting, but the production on that. It's so well done, man. Bravo. Seriously.

Thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you, bro.

What? You mentioned Blake, the guy with the curly hair. That's how I'm identifying him. Were you guys. So he's funny, like. And you guys play off each other really, really well. Was he. Were you guys friends before? Or did you, like, get together for comedy and then become friends? Or were you guys already buddies and, like.

Yeah, so we started rocking together. We knew each other for a while just from, like, the open mic scene in LA where paths with everybody. We were never, like, friends during that. Those days, but we were cool. We would just say, hey, what's up, man? Good to see you. Hey, good set. That was funny. Whatever. Yeah, that's kind of how that world operates. Just so many people. And then in 2020, we followed each other on Instagram a lot and liked each other's videos and commented and DMed and all that. And then in 2020, I had a couple ideas for videos that I thought he would be funny in. And so I invited him over, and the first video we made was How Bros Talk about Conspiracy Theories. It was just the two of us in this. And this is back. Back when everything was a conspiracy theory. Now, some of the conspiracies we talked about, they were proven to be true.

Conspiracy reality seems like it's the more accurate term.

Exactly. And so we did those videos together, and he showed up and I hadn't spoken to him in like a year or two. Yeah. And for anybody who's watched his videos, he has a very, like, Cartman style voice. He has a very unique voice. Yeah. He's always like, what's up, dude? What's good, bro? Yeah.

And. And. And that's what he's like online. So I hadn't spoken to him in. In a couple of years. He shows up at my door and he goes, hey, Brent, what's good, dude? And I started laughing because I thought he was doing a voice, but that's just how he talks. And. And he's the just the nicest guy. Super, super funny. Yeah. You know, a lot of people ask me why I haven't moved out to Austin yet.

That was. I thought about leading with that. Yeah.

Yeah, dude. I mean, I get asked that question every time I talk to somebody that doesn't Live in California? Why don't you live in Texas or somewhere else? Yeah. And it's because I got people like Blake and my friend Nikki out here, and, like, you know, that's my. It's kind of my true. Yeah, yeah.

Nikki's great, man. In fact, I just. I've only seen her in your videos. And then today I was like, oh, I bet she's her own person. So I went, you know, I followed her on Instagram, went to her YouTube channel. She's got. I was like, wow, she's got a legit. Legit following on her own.

Yeah, she's killer. Yeah.

How did you guys meet?

We met through a mutual friend, Stevie Emerson, who also does videos online. She had been in a bunch of stuff with him. I was trying to work with more people because I was just starting to get into the YouTube game. This is like 2018, maybe 20, something like that. And so I just. I DM'd her. We exchanged numbers, and we started shooting together just right away. We had, like, maybe one writing session on FaceTime, and then we shot a couple of videos, got along great. You know, you can tell in the creative space almost right away, I think whether or not your vibe. Your vibe is. Is going to align with somebody else's. Whether or not your approach to creativity and your way of translating an idea from your head to the paper to the screen is going to be similar to somebody else's or collaborative enough with somebody else's. And me and hers just clicked immediately, and the videos clicked and popped, and from then on, we were just. You know, she's. Now. I consider her now my closest collaborator for sure. Really. And we're putting together some bigger stuff now, too.

You guys have an incredible synergy. I thought when I saw you, I was like, oh, is that your. I was like, what's her name? Is she your girlfriend? I totally thought she was your girlfriend. I mean, you guys like, you guys. Oh, sure, sure.

Literally everybody does, which is hilarious. We don't even correct people anymore.

I mean, you'll probably end up breaking up with your current and end up marrying each other. That's my. That's my theory. You heard it here. It's. It's cemented on this podcast. That's my beer.

Who I share this podcast with now.

Don't share with Nikki's boyfriend or your girlfriend.

All right, I take it back. I take it back.

So.

So I mentioned that, right? I. That I. My buddy Garrett Gunderson invited me to do some standup with him, so I'd Love to talk to you. I'm curious about your creative process and I think I'm going to call this episode how to be a Stand Up Comedian with Brent Pella. Right. So I think we've delivered on that a bit and I want to keep that, that, that theme. How do you write your. How and when do you write your comedy? I would imagine a lot of it comes right. Momentary shower thoughts you hear something from.

Right.

Like as an author, half of my material is like written in my phone on a note. When I just am driving in the car and a thought pops in my head. But I'm curious comedy wise, like, do you sit down every day for, for an hour? Like, yeah. Break down your process.

I will, I will break down the process. I will say though, first, if anybody actually, like yourself is actually going to do comedy of some sort, what's even more important than writing jokes for the first time is.

Coming to an understanding with yourself that you might suck like that. Like everybody. I was awful, dude. Everybody's bad when they first start. That doesn't mean you're gonna. So you're probably gonna be fantastic because you already do this and you have jokes that you, you know how to deliver a line and talk to people. But that was one of the biggest challenges for me is realizing, oh, I'm bad at this and I need to get better. Better when I first started. And that is what kind of kicks me in the ass to figure out a writing style which is. I'll answer that now is like all. It's typically ideas will come to me at odd times. I could sit down for three hours and then as soon as I stand up and go for a drive or a run, I'll have an idea then. I don't have a notebook with me. Totally computer then. So it kind of training your brain to be open at all times to receive whatever that idea is or whatever that spark of that catalyst of creativity is. That's big. And then for me, that, that's just. I write it down on my notes on my phone or, or like I'll dictate it into a note and it's typically just a line or a phrase. Like, you know, my, my, my girlfriend told me that I closed my mouth when I was sleeping once and I stopped breathing. And she told me like super casually, she was just like, hey, the other night, you know, you stopped breathing for a little bit. It was crazy. Anyway, want to get the salad for an appetizer? And I was like, what? Excuse me? And so when she told me That I just thought it was so funny and so I wrote it down on my phone as a note. And so now I'm trying to figure out how to make that into a show.

Work that in.

Yeah, that's hilarious. And so, yeah, so I'll take, I'll do that. I'll write down a note or I'll dictate a note and then I'll bring that to the computer and I'll try to free write a little bit. But also, you know, I do hour long shows now. I do, I do my headline act is, is around an hour. So I'll write on stage. I love improvising. I. From an improv background. I, I love the free flow of just talking and trying to figure it out as I go. So I'll, I'll write. I consider that writing too. So I'll do that on stage. But for somebody that's preparing, you know, it's, it's nice sometimes to do the Jerry Seinfeld method, which is to set a timer for a certain amount of time, 30 minutes, and not take your fingers off the keys. And you end up with 99. Crap.

Yep.

But 1%, when you read it back through, you take that one, you start a new document, you put that 1% here, you set your timer again and you try to go off of that and maybe the next time you have 5%. Right. And I think that's a really cool way of just annihilating writer's block and just forcing yourself through it. And top topics are the easy thing. That's the easy part. Picking what to talk about, you know. But yeah, that's, that's been what's worked for me from a, from a writing point of view at least.

That's great. And that, that's a great. That Jerry Seinfeld strategy. For anybody listening, whether you're writing comedy or you want to be a writer or, you know, or you're trying to solve a problem. Right. Set the timer. Just free write. And I usually start with. I'm not sure what I'm going to write right now, but hopefully it's going to be good and I need to think of something fun. Right. Like I just heard, I just start writing and then. Yeah, like you said, one, you're like, ooh. And then a couple ideas come up, you know, and it's gold. The. So you're my understanding of you as you're pretty spiritual person, I would say. Would you consider yourself pretty spiritual?

Yeah.

Evolving from bro to spiritual.

I am a conscious bro.

Conscious bro. Yeah, so what, how do you view. You mentioned, like, receiving that word popped out to me in terms of tying spirituality into comedy in, in whatever context that, that might resonate with you. Like, I would love to hear you speak on that. And it could be in terms of just like, yeah, spiritually, like I let you know, just being open to allowing, you know, the wisdom of whatever God, the universe, like, you know, the funniness, whatever, to come to show up and keep open to receiving it versus, like trying to force it. Or if they're just, you know, or if you look at spirituality in terms of like the impact you're making by making people laugh and that, that's a spiritual pursuit. So I'm curious just how you would talk about comedy and spirituality together.

Yeah, definitely. So, you know, my mom raised me a hippie, she grew up in Davis, and she, she would bring me to Grateful Dead shows when I was a toddler. You know, I had tie dyed shirts and a reusable diaper. And I think a lot of that just inspired my approach to life throughout life. But, but as far as comedy and spirituality goes, you know, I said before that a lot of comedians have the, the ability to flip over into drama because they have such. They, they need to have a way to view the world and create a perspective that allows them to understand humanity better so that they can then comment on humanity through the lens of comedy. And once I started to kind of understand that and learn more about that, it opened up my perspective toward the human experience to a whole new level.

Because I really, I really want to understand what the human experience is like so that I can comment on it. And I want to understand what that human experience is like in politics and in the obsessions with pop culture and the effect social media has and how the news affects us and all these little subtopics all are underneath the umbrella of human experience. And so I've tried to open my mind up more and more to learn about that, to, to study it, to communicate with people about it, and also, yeah, to open my mind to receive inspiration. And, you know, I, I do meditate. I've, I've dabbled in psychedelics. I'm a big proponent of psychedelic medicine and plant medicine. And.

Those, those avenues of learning for me have created a connection between my comedy and the human experience that allows me to just comment on more things and in more ways than I would have without, you know, taking those approaches.

And from a spiritual point of view too, I think, you know, we're all trying to live with a Purpose. We're all trying to figure out what our purpose is. And mine used to just be comedy, make people laugh. And as I developed spiritually and, and kind of mentally and emotionally throughout my own personal journey through life.

That mission and purpose became more detailed and specific. And so what, what, what was once, oh, I'm here to make people laugh and spread joy is now, like, I'm here to shine a light on absurdity and.

And make people choose and help help, not make help people choose to laugh at things rather than choose to be upset or offended or ignore or fight against. Like, I wanna, I really want to inspire the first reaction to something to be laughing because that's what, you know, that was the whole purpose of the court jester. He wanted to mock the king so that the king would laugh at himself.

Yeah.

And I love doing that. And, and so from a spiritual point of view, the, the choose to laugh objective now.

Is, is aligned because I feel like it's just, it's raising people's awareness to what can happen when you choose to laugh rather than choose to fight or choose to be negative. And what can happen is you're just a happier person, you live a happier life. Because we're all going to die. We all going to die.

Yeah, yeah.

And are you choosing to travel that road to death with negativity or are you going to travel that road to death with laughter? And, and that's kind of, that, hopefully that answers the question a little bit.

I know it really does in a way. Yeah. I like that. It's, you know, I think about laughter as the best medicine. And you're Dr. Pella, right? Like, you know, delivering not only the laughter but the, the message of like, let's laugh. And I'm, I personally am the person that will like my wife will call me out. I find the humor in everything, in anything.

Right.

I mean, you do too, right? Anyone who's in comedy does. And but to the point where it's just like, that's inappropriate. I'm like, how is anything. Who said it's inappropriate? Like according to who?

Right?

Because you don't think it's appropriate, right? Like I thought it was funny or whatever, you know, and I think about, you know, what you just said, that really, God, that it really is a beautiful purpose with such a spiritual undertone. I think about like with kids, you know, when, when my, I have a 10 year old son and you know, like the other day he was like so upset at me and my. Just, just the world, whatever. He was upset with Me and my wife. Right. And then we got him laughing, you know. Right. And he was upset because he was in pain because he had this like bug bite and his hand was swollen. He was having an allergic reaction. And then that led to other stuff, you know, and then we got him laughing. Right. And what it did is the physical pain subsided. Right. The mental and emotional pain subsided. You know, and so you think about that if you can. If you can go through life with laughter, being a lint, like love and laughter. I would interest. Like, if those are the two primary lenses that you view every experience, dude, I think that's going to be a winning life.

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And it's a choice. It's truly a choice. And I think we're living in a time where a lot of people don't know they have that choice or they don't think that it's a choice. They think that that's a waste of time and we need to be more serious about everything and make sure that we're fighting the good fight for this and this and this.

Yeah.

And it's like, we can relax. Well, we can relax a little bit. We're not. The world isn't on fire completely. You know, we can get through these challenges together. Everybody's going to have different beliefs about different things and laugh your way through it instead of raging and tweeting your way through it, you know?

Yeah. No, amen, man. I want. I want to be laughing on my deathbed, right? Like, yeah, why not? You know, what's a better way to go out? So I'm tempted to end it there because that was such a powerful message. But there was one other thing I wanted to ask you about and it's show on mtv.

Yeah.

Talk about, are you still on that show?

Yeah, that's wilding out Nick Cannon's show. And I actually just got back from Atlanta yesterday. We were shooting all week out there for the new season. That has been just the most fun experience ever. You know, I got that show because I had been doing videos online and I didn't have an agent, I didn't have a manager. I was just making videos and putting them out and doing stand up. And I was a PA driving, you know, big, huge production trucks with thousands of dollars of equipment and light stands and all these things. And I would go to set and I'd like be editing a video at lunch in the truck and running coffee and everything. And then I got home from one of those jobs one day and I had a DM in in my On Instagram. And it was from Nick Cannon.

No way.

He. Yeah. So get this. I had made a video called how the Grinch Took Mushrooms, and I was in full Grinch makeup. It's like three hours.

I remember that.

Yeah. And then that same night, we shot that video. When we were done with the video, we stripped off the makeup, which took about an hour, cleaned me all up, and we went and shot an Eminem parody that was Eminem dissing Nick Cannon because Nick had put out a diss track toward Eminem. I knew Eminem wasn't going to respond, so I dressed up as Eminem, and. And I did a diss track toward Nick. So I did it the same night as the Grinch video, which was right before Christmas. We barely had time. Everybody had flights the next day to go home. I knew this was the only opportunity I could shoot this video. So we shot it that night. I stayed up the entire night editing to put it out the next morning. And apparently Nick saw it. So the next day, I had the PA job. The video came out. It went viral online. Somebody sent it to Nick. He DMS me. I get the dm. It says, like, hey, bro, you ready to wild out?

No way.

Yeah, we had a quick conversation on Instagram. He invited me out to his office a couple days later.

And. And. And he cast me on the show right there in. In. In his office. Now, after that, what was crazy is Covid hit. So Covid threw off everything for the whole year. Well, an entire year passed. I didn't know if I was ever going to be on the show. I didn't know if the show was going to come back. Nobody knew anything.

So wait, you hadn't been on the show at all when Covid hit?

Nope.

Oh, so you got. You got the gig and then Covid hit. Oh, man.

Gig. And Covid took it away.

Oh, depressing. If I were you, Covid would have been extra depressing without, like, knowing part.

Of why I went crazy.

So then the show gets taken away, right? We're told they don't know if it's ever going to come back. This is now spring 2020. I triple down on video. So it went from one to three a week, and I don't hear from nick for, like, eight or nine months. And then he FaceTimes me in February 2021.

And so literally, where you're just looking at your phone, and all of a sudden, it's a FaceTime from Nick Cannon.

It's a. It's a. An LA number.

Okay, okay.

FaceTime so I was like, okay, it's got to be a person and not a scam. If it's. Yeah, yeah, this is. It's Nick. And he says, hey, bro.

We'Re coming back for the next season. Season 16. We're shooting in the summer. He was walking toward a private jet at the time, and I was like, where are you going? Where. Where are you right now? He was like, oh, I'm. I'm traveling up to see one of my baby mamas. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

And so he was. You know, he and one of the producers were like, we love all the stuff you've been putting out. You know, you've stayed on it. You're growing. We love to see that. We're bringing you back. We want to keep our word to you. And he brought me back on. And so I literally have nothing but good things to say about Nick Cannon as a human being and as a person. He is humble, gracious, giving. He just. It's been an incredible opportunity. The people on the show are super fun to work with on the cast. Yeah. Just incredible performers and creatives and. And just fun, friendly people. And I might not have gotten that opportunity if I hadn't, you know, doubled down that night and shot that Eminem disc video and then extra video.

Right.

You never know. It's these little things, dude. Like, if that video didn't get released at the exact moment it did, I don't know, whoever showed him would have ended up seeing it, and I don't know if it would have gotten to him, and I would be doing what I'm doing with them now. So I. I just. I take that to heart. And when you talk about spirituality, that. That's like the universe aligning. Yes, for sure. Yeah. But there's also. You have to align yourself. You know what I mean? You got to really be the catalyst for your own goals to come true, for your own opportunities to happen. So that's the lesson I took from that. But the show in general is super fun. It's on.

For those that aren't familiar what. What's Wild now.

It's Whose Line Is It Anyway? But it's basically like the black version of that. So it's a very urban show. It's. It's. There's a lot of hip hop elements to it. It's rooted in, like, modern day urban black culture.

And you're white, so are you, like, white guy on the show?

Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Yeah. Which is super fun. And the great thing about that show is you know, in this era of fragile, you know, offensiveness.

Yeah.

That show really doesn't give a. That show. It's, It's a roast show. So there's roach jokes all the time. There's what some people would call body shaming. We would call a hilarious joke on the show. Yeah, right. And it's because, you know, their style of roasting and joking on that show is meant to break through stereotypes so that we can all laugh at each other. No matter who you are, what size, shape, or color you are, we can all laugh about it and break through those stereotypes, because at the end of the day, we're all best friends on the show. So. Yeah, yeah, that's on VH1. And the next, it's season 18, just finished, and then the next season's air, I think next year.

And how many seasons have you done one season now or more than one?

I've done four so far.

Yeah, right on. And so people can watch that on VH1 or YouTube, right? I think. Go to YouTube, watch other videos. Yeah, that's where I've seen clips, I think. Yeah.

YouTube and Instagram have the most clips. And then VH1 and Paramount plus air the live episodes. I think something like that. Yeah.

Awesome. Well, man, I, you know, I was a fan coming into today, and I'm a bigger fan wrapping up the episode. I really, I really like you, Brent, dude. You're just, you're a good person. JP's told me, you know, Brent is like, one of the best human beings you will ever meet. Right. So that's a good.

I paid that he should have. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, totally.

That's a good foundation, though. What, so what, where, where's the best place for people to find you, support you, you know, so on and so forth.

So I, I, I'm on tour a lot. I just finished up a big summer tour. But I do have some dates coming up. September 23rd. I don't know when this comes out, but September 23rd, I'm in Sedona, Arizona. And then in November, I'm doing Oklahoma city in Dallas. Brentpella.com shows for tour dates and tickets. Instagram is at Brent pella. Same on YouTube if you want to watch videos. And then I did also just release rose wine, which I'm super excited about.

Dude, I mentioned that. I, I was on the site, I was like, whoa, Brent's super entrepreneurial now.

Or like, yeah, yeah. So I gotta send you a couple of bottles. It's a vibe rose. So we're here to raise with a Y vibe.

Yeah.

By B ROSC.com. you can check that out and see what we got going on. We're shipping to Texas, but I'll send you some bottles, too. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Awesome, man. Well, I'm not a wine drinker, but I love when my wife drinks it, so, yeah, send me some bottles.

Perfect. I appreciate it, brother.

All right, man. Well, much love to you and goal achievers and members of the miracle morning community. I love you. I hope you enjoyed this conversation even half as much as I did with Brent, and we'll have to have him on again. Love you. And I will talk to you next week.

Cool.