#134: What Happens When You GIVE More Than You Ask For with Heather!
4 Nov 2025 · 20 min
Heather Monahan shares her son's story from an academic camp where he faced injury and had to push through, then connects it to a business lesson: give more value than you ask for in relationships and deals.
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Come on this journey with me each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity and set you up for a better tomorrow. Fasten your seat. I'm ready for my close up. I am so grateful you are back here with me this week. Okay, in case you did not hear my solo episode last week, I want to get you up to speed on some crazy events in my life. So I had mentioned that like many kids, right, my son was on virtual school for basically a year and did not do well. And I'll tell you, I am a visual person. I'm an in person person. I'm an extrovert. I'm the same way, right? I definitely struggle with virtual and do so much better when I'm face to face with people. I don't know if you feel that same way, but I'll tell you, it's a huge difference. So after a really hard year of school, my son needed some credits and so that he set up for success for next year. And so he had to go away to academic camp. Picture this, a 14 year old boy going to academic camp when all he wants to do is play basketball. Doesn't sound ideal. Well, the only one that his school suggested and approves of is in New Hampshire. P.S. i haven't been to New Hampshire since I was 16 years old, so it's just so crazy. Anyhow, so my son goes to camp and his father was the one that took him to camp because just decided it was better than having me take my son to camp because that would be, you know, a nervous breakdown and crying central, which is fair. So he got dropped off at camp and I got the opportunity to speak to him once a day. He doesn't have a phone there. It's so crazy, so bizarre. And he's in class all day and so every morning I can speak to him for 20 minutes. And you know, he didn't love it. He's living in a tent outside in literally the worst weather ever in New England. It's been the rainiest. And so he didn't love it, but he was surviving, right? I wouldn't say he's thriving, but he was surviving. And his grades were really good. And it again just reiterated to me that some people do really well in person, some people can do well in virtual. But it's really important that we identify and acknowledge our own needs and weaknesses as well as our teams and the people around us. So my son is an in person learner and so his grades are great. He didn't really love it. He hates living in a tent. He had never been camping in his life and suddenly he was thrust into for a month. Okay, so here's where it got crazy. Last week I got a phone call at 8 o' clock at night that my son was in the emergency room. And they gave me the emergency room phone number. I couldn't get ahold of my son. They didn't have the cell phone number of the person who had taken him. To say I went on a downward spiral is an understatement. I went to what worst, you know, case scenario is going on. Anyways, to make a long story shorter, I spoke to the emergency room physician.
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He was okay. Broken arm, obviously not ideal. He doesn't have a parent or anyone to care for him. He's alone out there living in a tent and now with a broken arm. And it's literally raining every single day out there. So I finally get someone to get him on a phone call with me that night for two minutes to tell me he was okay. I was heartbroken. I was just a train wreck crying my eyes out. I don't think I slept that night at all. Anyhow, so I decided to fly out to see him and check in on him. Well, it was interesting because the next morning that I spoke to him after he had been at the hospital, he was very calm on the phone and sounded pretty good. He said, you know, I don't have my arm cast yet because it was too swollen, but I'm doing okay. Mom, I want you to stay calm. Everything's gonna be okay. I'm gonna find a way to make it work. That was his attitude the first day after the next day changed drastically. He was in a terrible mood. His arm was killing him, the pain was much worse and he wanted to come home. And so it was just interesting to see how things could change so drastically in 24 hours. So I tried to talk him off the ledge and reminded him that he was getting his arm cast. And when that happened, he would feel much better. The pain would subside, he'd be able to move around much easier. So he hung in there. And the next day he got his arm cast and felt much better. The pain had subsided and he was sounding much better. But still I was so nervous he was gonna wanna come home and not finish the academic program to get the credits he needs. Somehow, some way, he hung in there. And I got on a flight, landed. I went to a hotel because I had to give a virtual keynote for Los Angeles. I did that and then I got a rental car, and I drove from Boston to New Hampshire. Wolfboro, New Hampshire, by the way, which I don't even know where that is. Right. So I had no idea where I'm going. It was just. There's no lights out there. It's literally like camping ground. So I get out there, and I was. Oh, my gosh. It was like the happiest moment of my life to see my son knowing that he had been alone, living in this awful wet tent with a broken arm, and just not having anyone to hug him. So I was so overjoyed. I was also shocked at how rustic this place was. It definitely. You know, sometimes you wonder if people are exaggerating or your kids being a baby. My son was not being a baby. So it was everything that I. Nothing went as expected. Right. The place was much more rustic, much more campground like, than I ever thought it was going to be. And my son had alluded to that, but he hadn't made a big deal about it. Just said he didn't like it. And then I get there, he's got a broken arm, and he was so grateful I was there. He was so. His demeanor was amazing. And in a weird, twisted way, going through this really awful time of going to the emergency room by himself and not having support and not knowing, you know, what was happening, and feeling scared. He seemed stronger. It was so weird. This is completely unexpected. I never expected this to happen. Kind of takes me back to that idea that you can do hard things and sometimes you don't know until you're thrust into. And this was really that moment with my son. He looked older, he looked stronger. I'd only not seen him for two weeks, and this broken arm had just. And this experience of being at this, you know, bizarre camp in New Hampshire, it just. It amazed me how it went. Nothing like I thought it was going to, but ended up so much better. So I want you to remember that no matter what adversity you're facing right now, challenge or challenge that a loved one's facing, in 24 hours, things can change massively for me. In 24 hours. My son broke an arm, then was saying he was doing okay, then was saying he wanted to come home, and then was saying, you know what? I've got this. And I'd never realized how strong I really am. I can make this happen. So cut to. We had an amazing weekend together. I mean, literally. Oh, I was crying my eyes out. I was so proud of him. I was blown away. And so this was interesting. We had a few challenges with the hotel situation, which was crazy because everything in the world is sold out in this vacation area. And it was really hard to find a hotel. However we did, we made it work. And we had a long ride back to his camp because the only hotel I could find was 45 minutes away. So we're driving back to the camp and I'm going to say goodbye to him and not see him for two weeks. Remind you, he's at an academic camp, living in a tent, it's raining every day and. And he has a broken arm. He broke his left arm, which I'm left handed. He's left handed, so he really can't write right. He's. It's hard. It's really, it's. It's not easy. The struggle is real. And gosh, my heart was breaking for him. I just wanted to take care of him. Even just at dinner. I had to cut his steak for him, right? He just, he can't do the normal things that we can all do. And we take that for granted. Our health and oh gosh, we need to be grateful for our health. So we're in the car or we're driving back to camp and I'm starting to tear up already. Right in advance, true mom moment. And I'm getting a little sad. Cause I don't wanna give him back, I wanna keep him. And I'm just so proud of him. And I'm just, I'm blown away at the transformation I've seen in my child in a two week period of time. It's so bizarre. I can't even give words to this. It's bizarre, okay? But I'm super proud of him. We're in the car and he says, mom, I don't want you to get upset. I want you to know everything's gonna be okay. I'm gonna be fine. You'll be back in two weeks, you know, and I'll be back home and I can't wait. And he was really being very calm, handling it well in the car. And so I thought, okay, this is. Maybe it's not gonna be a train wreck like I, in my mind I imagine it's gonna be saying goodbye. We get out of the car and when I tell you he sped up so fast. And we walk over to the main building so I can sign him back in. He looked at me, gave me a little hug and said, okay, mom, I gotta run. I'll see you in two weeks. Have a safe trip back home and I'll see you soon and he just turned and walked away. And it was so powerful and bold because I was ready to have a nervous breakdown and he knew it. I was ready to start bawling my eyes out crying, which is terrible. I'm supposed to be the strong one there. I'm 46 years old, he's 14. But in fact it was my 14 year old that showed up as the leader in that moment and I never expected him to do that and it was just mind blowing. I never saw this coming. I really didn't. And that's not to say that I don't value what an amazing kid I have. I know that it's just this went above and beyond what I ever could have thought would have been possible. I mean, literally just a few days before he was saying he wanted to come home, his arm hurt so bad and he couldn't make it work. And here he was realizing that I was going to start crying and he didn't want me to lose it. And so he managed the situation.
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Day the Google alert showed up that Gary was Launching a wine company with a partner. And I saw the man's name and I googled the man and I thought, maybe this man is easier to get to than Gary Vaynerchuk. So I went to LinkedIn, I sent the man a DM and I said, hey, I was in the wine business and in sales and marketing for 25 plus years in corporate America. I definitely can help you avoid some landmines in the wine business. Give me a quick call and let's chat so I can set you up for success. How can I add value to him? Right? That's how we approach people if we want a good end result. And he called me and we were on a phone call for maybe an hour. We hit it off. Turns out he's from New England and he's just. He's a great guy, right? So we totally hit it off. I gave him an hour of my time and gave him all the advice I had around the wine business. At the end of the call, he says, heather, if there's ever anything I can do for you, let me know. And I said, well, actually there is right now. He opened the door for opportunity. And he said, what is it? Tell me anything. And I said, I would love it if you could connect me with Gary V. Your partner. I'd love to have him be my first guest on my podcast. And so this was two years ago. He connected me to Gary. Gary was great and let me come into his office and interview him for my podcast. So that's how that whole situation came to be. But never did I just send someone a DM saying, hey, connect me to Gary. Right? Life doesn't work that way. What you need to do is focus on how can you add value to the other party. And you can be creative. You could offer a favor, you could offer advice, you could offer anything. Just help, right? I've had so many people and this is actually. No, this is a great example. Okay, if you haven't heard yet, I've got a book launch team that is working with me to launch my new book, Overcome youe Villains. And I've got a big pre order initiative. So if I want people to pre order my book, I need to give them more value than I'm asking them for, right? So my book is $27. It's actually on sale right now for 24 on one of the websites I saw. But however, if you pre order the book for 24 or $27, spend 24 or $27, I'm giving you in return my $299 confidence creator video course. My 30 day email accountability program to achieve your goals. My brand new overcome your villains workbook. Which is killer. I spent a month creating this thing. It is so freaking amazing. Plus you're going to get the first chapter in advance before anybody else gets to read it, right? So I'm giving this bonus bundle valued at almost $500 to anyone that spends 24 or $27 because I want to give more value than I'm asking for. And that's the key in business and life when you show up trying to give more than you're trying to take from people. That's how you can create some success. That's how you can create some momentum. So the next time instead of sending someone a dm, say hey, connect me to this person or help me do this. Instead say how can I add value to this person? Or help this person? How can I give more than I'm asking for? And watch how things start to turn out to work better for you. It works for me. It always works for me. Every time, anytime I do it. So definitely check out my bonus Bundle. It's at overcomeyourvillains.com if you haven't checked it out yet it would mean the world to me and I would love for you to get this bonus bundle. It is only going to be available until the next couple of months and then we are shutting the bonus bundle down. So definitely check it out. Overcomeyourbillins.com I would so appreciate that you buy that pre ordered that book and I'd love for you to have that massive bonus bundle and I can't wait to hear what you think. If you can please subscribe, rate and review the show. It means the world to me and I'll always repost. Just make sure you tag me until next week. Let's keep creating confidence and just remember you can do hard things. I decided to change that dynamic. I couldn't be more excited for what you're going to hear. Start learning and growing. Inevitably something will happen. No one succeeds alone. You don't stop and look around once in a while. You could miss it. Come on this journey with me.
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