#302: Why This Is The Day That Changed EVERYTHING For Me, With Heather!
8 Mar 2023 · 23 min
Heather Monahan describes sending an email on International Women's Day that sparked a cultural shift at her company, then facing legal battles and being fired. She reflects on vulnerability, resilience, and what she learned from losing everything.
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Come on this journey with me each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity, and set you up for a better tomorrow. Fasten your seatbelt. I'm ready for my close up. Hi, and welcome back. I'm so glad you're back here with me this week. Okay, so this episode is coming out on International Women's Day, and I want to tell you why that is an important day in my career. So cut to back. Gosh, how long ago is it now? I guess six years ago, I was a chief revenue officer of a media company. And on International Women's Day, I'll never forget, I woke up that morning and I was sent some article from some outlet. I read a lot of articles like Forbes, Inc. Whatever, you know, just trying to learn different things. Anyhow, I see this article and it was about International Women's Day. And so I go down the rabbit hole, you know, researching it, and I just thought to myself, you know, wow, I've never done anything as a female leader of this company with thousands of female employees that work with me for years. I've never acknowledged International Women's Day. I've never done anything about it. That's kind of crappy, right? So I decided, okay, now is the time. This is the day. You know, I got this article. I've got to do something about it. So I just took action. And I didn't have some big strategy or anything, but I just decided to send an email to all my female employees. I didn't send it to any men because it was about International Women's Day. I just sent it to the women. So basically what the email said was something like this. It was like, hey, I can't believe after 14 years, I've never acknowledged this day. As a chief revenue officer of your company, I want us to get to know each other and see each other in a different way today. I'm sorry that it took me so long to acknowledge the importance of each and every one of us and the trials and tribulations that we go through. So I basically reintroduced myself, right? And I kind of said something like, I wanna reintroduce myself to you. While you see me on the outside as Heather Monahan, maybe you don't know, I'm also a single mother. Maybe you don't know that. I have a lot of struggles going on right now. Like, how are we gonna bring the. Am I gonna get this huge deal closed? You know, all these crazy struggles that I have going on in my professional life as well, as in my personal life, I touched on both. And then I put. I also struggle with how I look and when I gain weight, when I travel too much and don't sleep enough. You know, I went like, I went real. It was totally real. And I had never. The funny thing is, back in corporate America, I definitely had more of a facade. I was not so. And vulnerable. I mean, you know, after years of working with people and going to events and whatnot, some people did get to know me in a more real way, but not like globally. That wasn't like, my outward facing look was, you know, totally vulnerable and real, which now I live such a different life. And I believe the most vulnerable person wins. And I want you to remember that the more vulnerable you can be in your life, the more you're gonna attract the right opportunities, the right people, the more love and joy you're gonna feel, and the more you're gonna connect to your purpose and passion. The most vulnerable person wins. And I'm working every day on being the most vulnerable that I can. Okay, so. Cause that's really just being real. So to that end, okay, so I send this email out and having no clue what kind of response I'd get or if I'd get any, right? Cause crickets could come back. I don't know. I hate crickets. But, you know, you just. You take a risk like that, you don't know. It was kind of add a character versus how they saw me. I was always asking for reporting and numbers, and here I am reintroducing myself to them in the most vulnerable way I've ever done. And then I ask them, hey, I'd love to hear back from you. I'd love to hear what challenges you're facing, what you're up against, and PS if you have any ideas to help me overcome the challenges I'm facing, I'd love to hear those too. I'm here for it. It was something like that. And then I just said, happy International Women's Day. I hope you celebrate you today. And if there's anything I can do to help you today or any day, please let me know. I thought it was nice. Right? I just. I don't know. I just. I knew I felt compelled to do something. You know what's funny is now that I look back, man, that was coming from a higher purpose. Because wait till you hear the domino effect of what happened after I sent that email. And I never anticipated it. Well, the email went out and to everyone in my team in the sales division that was female. So immediately I started getting so many responses back. So many people started replying, all right. To all of these people and sharing such intimate things and vulnerable things and challenges and so real and so good. And I was crying reading these responses, and I felt so grateful. And I. It was like one of these moments where I just said, wow, I don't need to show up and put this tough face on and put the navy blue pantsuit on and get everyone to think I'm so hard. I'd be a lot more connected to my people and really know what was going on if I would be more real. And so that truly, that day changed my life in such a big way. It gets bigger. Hang on. Hang on for it. So amazing responses. And literally my email, I think, shut down that day. It was like, right. So hundreds and hundreds of responses came through. Incredible answers. People offering to help one another. It was so cool. There was so much camaraderie, so much support. So many people going through the same challenges, same problems, and so many people sharing really personal things and feeling connected for the first time at work in this venue. And it was just. It was so incredible. So, anyway, while this is all going on, I shot a note to the president of the company who. Who was my boss, a man at that point in time. And I sent him a note and said, oh, my gosh, this is out of control. You can't imagine the beast that was just unleashed in our team. Literally, people are so happy to be working here right now. This is like, there's a camaraderie and a connection I've never seen before. It truly is like nothing I'd ever seen before. So I shared some of it with him. He was blown away. He said, this is literally lightning in a bottle. I'll never forget that. That's what he called it. He called it the lightning in a bottle email. And it really was. And it was like magic. And I felt so grateful. Anyways, so he was, like, cheering me on. He was so proud of me for doing it. And he was just. He got some messages from people saying that they were so excited that this initiative to bring women together in the company had been started. Some of the women in my team went and started a Facebook page where everyone could get together. Like, it just went other level. Okay. And then these challenges started happening. It was so cool. It had a mind of its own, right? It just went off, and it was all good, like, all positive, all supportive, all beautiful. Or so I thought. So this is interesting. Even when you have great Intentions. Right. Others might not always feel your intentions the way that you do, or others can be threatened by you. Right. And others can not want you to shine your light and not want you to do new and innovative and different things. And. And when that happens, you are at the wrong table, in the wrong room, at the wrong place. And for me, I don't know why I didn't realize that I should have got up and walked out of there when this happened, but I didn't. So let me break it down for you. So while my boss was super happy and happened to be male and was a champion for the whole initiative and super excited about it, the cfo, who was a female at the time, was not happy about it. And so she contacted general counsel, and they set up a call for me, essentially to reprimand me and threatened me that I had to shut this initiative down and never do anything like this again, and that I was being sexist by not including men. Basically, they were looking for a reason to come after me. And I'll tell you, it is such a bummer when you're trying to do something positive and good and meaningful, and you get great feedback and you see you're touching and helping and supporting people, and, like, there's breakthroughs happening, and you see connection, and you just see, like, this is what it's all about. This is like, we are making culture happen now. This is so exciting. And then all of a sudden, you get shut down. So immediately, I fought back. I said, no, I'm not shutting this down. You know, I had worked that company for 14 years. I never thought I'd be fired from it. You know, I did a really, really good job for them, driving share price and revenues and retaining talent and attracting talent. And anyhow, I stood up for myself. I said, no, this is a positive initiative. This is about benefiting, supporting, connecting, and uniting team. This strengthens our company. This strengthens culture. I am not shutting this down. So anyways, it became a war, Truly a war. And ps, I didn't even work for this lady at the time. I end up working for her because she gets promoted to CEO. Spoiler alert. She's the one that fires me. But anyhow, it really got ugly, so I had to drag my boss into it, who happened to be her brother. And I basically said, listen, you need to shut her down, not shut me down. You know, this initiative is lightning in a bottle. That it's great for culture, that it's positive and uplifting and connecting, and that our goal is just to be Good and do good and help others. And I am not letting her shut, you know, shut this down. And so at first, he agreed with me. And so he went to bat and, you know, went after the GC and the CFO and said, no, back off, Heather. Let her do this. You know, people are so excited. His daughter actually was one of the people on my team, and she had reached out to him and was so excited and felt a part of something and felt seen, and, you know, it was like this great thing. Anyhow, within a couple days, he comes back to me and says, I tried. This is out of control. From a legal standpoint, it was just all bs, right? You know, just trying to. Just trying to cause trouble to shut me down. And so he comes back to me a couple days later, and he says, it's official. You have to shut it down. That's it. You're gonna get a letter from the attorney today. That's it. And, you know, it's black and white. It's crystal clear, and there's no alternative. Oh, my gosh. When something like that happens, I felt so devastated, right? Because I. I felt like I was, like, on the cusp of something great happening and building momentum and seeing change, and then all of a sudden, it stopped, and it was just so deflating. But not only for me, for everybody, right? Because while I had done this initiative and I felt so proud of it, it had touched thousands of women in my company, and they were so happy to be a part of it. And then suddenly it was taken away. That did not go well during that time. You know, what's so interesting is I ended up getting a call from one of the female leaders in the North Carolina market that we had, and she called me, and she said, listen, I want to let you know what's going on. I've been really unhappy. This email that you sent out kind of opened up the opportunity for me to speak to you about it. I want to tell you why. And she told me that her talents weren't being used in a way that was maximizing, you know, her skill set and that she was pigeonholed into one area and she didn't want to be. And I had never known that. No one had ever told me that that worked with her every day. And she had never told me that. She thought everyone knew. And, of course, you know, we assume people know what we want or what we're good at, but that definitely is not always the case. So once she made it clear to me, you know, how we could better support her and position her. We made the changes and put her in the right spot and she was so happy. So the point is, is that this email had legs for days, right? Like there was all this amazing fallout happening that was all for the benefit of the company, all for the benefit of the employees, just all for good. All for International Women's Day as the.
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How is that bad? Okay, so the next year was horrible. I mean, it was constant battles. And not just listen, there's battles at work every day, right? Like, you're dealing with difficult clients, you're losing huge deals, you're going after business, you know your flight's delayed, cancel. You miss a meeting, whatever craziness is going on in your life, there's going to be battles. But this was within the company I worked for. They were attacking me, and it was horrible. I started losing my hair. I wasn't sleeping. It was just a mess. Not good. And all of those issues were signs telling me I needed to leave that company. I still wouldn't listen. I finally threw my back out. I was a disaster, physically and mentally, a disaster. Crying all the time, just so upset. Just, like, struggling. It was just awful. So that is when the CEO that I'd worked for for 14 years became ill. He elevated his daughter to replace him, the cfo, the one that hated me. And pretty much immediately, she fired me, right? Pretty much. She wanted me to close one huge deal that was worth millions of dollars. And I did close it. And then she fired me the next day. Spoiler alert, Right? Heather, get a few more extra million in before you go. So what's interesting and why I want to share that story today about International Women's Day is I had no idea the domino effect that one email was going to have. But I just took the chance to send it. I didn't know if anyone would read it, if anyone would reply to it. It was so out of character for me. But to this day it just reminds me, take the chance, show up as that most vulnerable you. Because when you do that, you really start a chain of events in motion that you don't know where they're connecting to, where they're taking you. But as long as you keep showing up for the next event or situation or circumstance as that most vulnerable you, it's gonna take you to where you, you're actually meant to be. And I was not in the right place. Even though I was so scared to leave. I had an 18 month non compete, non solicit, which meant I had to leave the industry I was an expert in and start over as a beginner somewhere. And that idea scared me to death. Instead, today I like to see when everything's uncertain, anything is possible, right? That's total opportunity. Oh my gosh, so exciting. I can't wait to go for it and see what happens. But I wasn't thinking like that. I was just in panic mode because I had done one thing for so long that I had convinced myself that was all I was good at. I had convinced myself maybe I'm so successful because of the company, maybe I'm so successful because of the industry, maybe I'm so successful because of my team. Everything outside of me I was giving credit to instead of saying, maybe there's something within me that makes me successful and I can take those unique skills and talents wherever I want to go and be successful. And it was such a big paradigm shift to get thrust out that corporate window and corporate job, knowing I had 18 months, I couldn't be in the industry I had expertise in, I had to start over. And it just, wow, that was, that was a really, really hard time. But those hard times also teach you that you don't know what that next opportunity is going to be. You don't know what that next door could open tomorrow. And it could be the greatest gift of your life if you just only show up and open it. And so I've spent the last five years opening those doors, chasing down the opportunities. Some of them don't work out right, some of them are a complete disaster. And some of them have been incredible. Like I just mentioned my two books. I am so incredibly proud of my books. I'm so incredibly proud of my soul sayings. If you haven't checked them out, go to the link below. I'll put the link tree below so you can check them out. These are reminders that you put on your shoes to uplift people. They're incredible. I'm launching the most incredible program in the next I think I'm gonna announce it next week to you and I can't wait to announce it. I'm so excited and I wanna tell you how this came down. And this just goes to show you never know what's possible. You just have to keep showing up. It's that time of year again.
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I was invited to lunch by a woman I had met on a podcast and we kind of hit it off. But you know, when you're on the computer is different than in real life sometimes. So you know, I'll say to myself, oh gosh, should I take the time? Because I was gonna have to, you know, take a bright line and it was gonna take hours out of my day and I thought, you know what, I'm just gonna go for it. Who knows if nothing comes out of this, nothing comes out of it. But if I don't try, I'm never gonna know, right? So just go show up, take the chance. That's the reminder right there. I did take the chance. I went and met this woman and took hours out of my day and it ended up being the best meeting and she gave me this incredible perspective on my business that I didn't have. And to her it was so clear and I'm gonna announce it next Week. And I hope you're gonna love it. I love it. I've never done anything like this. I'm so excited to launch this. I'd love to have you involved. And I will give you more details next week, but be on the lookout. Major, major, major announcement from me. And I'm super excited to launch this program. So she had seen me from afar and through the lens of what she does, it was so crystal clear to her what I should be doing. But because I didn't have that lens and perspective from where she was sitting, I never saw it. And basically, she said to me, you know, you're leaving this massive opportunity, business opportunity, just on the sidelines. Why aren't you diving into this? This should be your whole business, in my opinion, Heather. And I thought, what are you talking about? You know, my speaking business is really the biggest part of my business. And she's like, yeah, that's great, and you can still do that, but you could help so many more people at such a deeper, more significant level to change their lives if you did this. And she laid it out for me, and it was eye opening, shocking that I was missing this. And she said, I was wondering why you were missing this. So that goes back to the people that we surround ourselves with have such an incredible impact on us, whether from a negative or positive angle. Right? And here was this woman who just saw me differently because of her life experience, because of her business model. She saw this missing piece that I had that I had never seen, never even thought about. And not only did she open my eyes to it, she basically gave me her playbook on how she does it so that I can get up and running immediately and start helping people. And it's just. What an incredible. It was such an incredible day. I felt so, so grateful. And of course, I asked her, what can I do for you? You're giving me this G gift of a business I didn't even know I had. And I'm so grateful and thankful for that now. What can I do for you? And so I was able to help her. She wanted to get a book deal done and needed contacts for editors and how to do a book proposal and a bunch of things that I've all done, so it's easy for me. I'm like, yes, of course I can help you with that. And I feel so excited. This just takes me back to. It is so critical who we surround ourselves with, the people we seek for advice and the people that we don't. Right? Never take direction from someone who hasn't been where you're going. She's asking about how to get a book deal done and how to write a book proposal. Check, check, and check. Done it all. I'm asking her how to launch this new business. Check, check, and check. She's done it for 10 years. Right. So be really thoughtful about who you seek for advice and when, and make sure those people are on your team. They can be on your team and challenge you to grow, but sometimes, just because they're in your circle, you think they're in your circle, but they're not really in your corner. Right. So be really mindful about the people you seek for advice and direction and take the trip, take the lunch. Just show up and give it a shot and see what happens. Yeah, sometimes they won't be your people. Sometimes. Maybe nothing will come out of it or nothing will come out of it that day, but maybe in the future, something will. So I'm so grateful I show up. So to that end of showing up, I'm showing up again. I am. I'm going to show up for an event in Orlando next week. And I'm super excited because typically when I'm going to events, I'm speaking, right? So I know exactly what I'm walking into. I know how to handle it. You know, I've already done my pre calls with the teams, and I know about the audience. I know what my objective is. I know what talk I'm gonna give. Like, I'm fired up. This is my jam, right? This is my wheelhouse. I walk in there feeling super confident and really excited. What's interesting is a good friend of mine who I've actually never met in real life before, which is so crazy. We've been friends now for a while on the computer and on the phone, but we're finally gonna meet in person. And he calls me and he says, hey, I got this event going on. I want you to come with me. And I love this guy. He does so many favors for me. He's such an amazing human. And so I said, whatever you need, of course I'm there. Count me in if you need me to speak. Done. You need me to. Whatever you want. Just know it's done. And so he ends up sending me all this information the other day, and I see it and I'm like, whoa, this is out of my comfort zone. I'm going into an event, and I'm not the speaker. I'm an attendee. And I haven't done that in so long. I felt a little nervous. I'M not gonna lie. I'm like, wait a minute, this isn't my jam. I know what it's like when I'm the one doing the book signing. I know what it's like when I'm the one speaking. Now I'm being invited to someone else's book signing. Actually it's John Maxwell, which I'm super excited cause I haven't met him before. And so it's like everything's reversed. And for a few minutes I felt super nervous and I could sense that, you know, self doubt was creeping in. And I'm thinking like, I don't know anyone that's going to this thing. He knows everybody there. I know no one. I had to remind myself again, okay, just, you know, just because this is new and different. Like, let's go back to the basics. Showing up is always gonna be the answer, number one. Number two, I wanna research all the people I can find that are going so that I can know if there's like a point of connection or something in common we have or if there's something I can do to help someone, right? I do all of that work ahead of time. So it makes it a little bit easier to connect with people when you see them in real life. If you've done your homework on them ahead of time and it makes people feel happy. They're like, oh my gosh, how did you know I went to school there? Or how did you know I'm from blah, blah, blah. You know, it's just, it's like more personal that you care and that you try. And I'm gonna tell you this, I am a try hard. I am always gonna be the one out there trying hard. Because I do care and I do wanna make a difference and I do want. If there's some way you can bring joy into the world or into a person's life in any moment, why not do it right? So I do try hard. I do those things. I do wanna have fun. And a lot of that's around connection, right? So in those situations, sometimes I'll ask people to play a game. Like if you weren't doing what you do for a living, now tell me what you would have done. Or just crazy things, like give us one thing that nobody at this table knows about you. And let's go around. I'd like to do fun, different games like that to connect people and get people talking and be memorable, right? But again, it starts with showing up and that's half the battle, right? You have to get on the flight and you gotta go somewhere where you know nobody and you have to walk around and introduce yourself and listen. None of that's glamorous and exciting and fun, but once you break through that initial barrier, it is so fun. And the people that you can meet and the relationships you can create can be life changing. You just never, never know. And so I'm super optimistic for this event and for all these new people I'm gonna meet and for attending a conference instead of speaking at one. It's gonna be cool, it's gonna be different. And yeah, there's always a risk, right, that oh, what if I don't get anything out of this? Or what if this wasn't worth, you know, whatever. But I also believe, I know that the people I'm surrounding myself with are great people, right? Because I know from my friend. And so I know if you keep pushing yourself into new environments with great people, great things are going to happen. So I'm hoping that you step into a new environment this week. I'm hoping that you show up when you get the invite or the opportunity, even if you're not dying to do it. Because showing up is the answer time and time again. And showing up as the most vulnerable version of you, that's how people will really see you. That's how you'll really connect and that's how you'll find your people, your purpose, your passion and it all. And I can't wait to let you know what I'm launching. I can't wait to tell you next week. I'm so super excited for it. You guys have been asking for it and and it is finally coming. Thanks to my friend Kelly, who is incredible. Kelly wrote show. Check her out if you haven't before. She's an incredible person. I've had her on the podcast, but she's the one that helped me to open my eyes to an opportunity that was sitting right in front of me that I hadn't seen. So imagine what opportunity is in front of you that you haven't seen. Get around like minded people, get around people with different perspectives and take it all in. Until next week, I hope you keep creating your confidence. I can't wait to tell you what I'm launching next week. Let me know if you have an idea on what it is or go to my website and make sure that you are signed up for my email list either on LinkedIn or on my website heathermonahan.com to make sure that you get all the info. I'll also link next week. I'll put a link in where you can sign up for my new program, which I can't wait to share with you. I'm super, super excited. It's going to be life changing. It's gonna be amazing and I'm super grateful. Until next week. Keep creating your confidence. You know I will be. I decided to change that dynamic. I couldn't be more excited for what you're going to hear. Start learning and growing. Inevitably something will happen. No one succeeds alone. You don't stop and look around once in a while. You could miss it. Come on this journey with me.
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