Nelson Mandela’s Private Secretary is on the show to help celebrate Mandela Day!

Growing up as a white person in South Africa during apartheid, the privilege served you to just follow blindly Nelson Mandela. We believed that he was a terrorist. How on earth did you end up working with and for Nelson Mandela? I was spectacularly ill equipped for the job. Some Afrikaner people, you know, like to call me a sellout because I worked for the so called enemy. He would say to me, you know, I miss prison. We taught people to respect one another even in the most difficult of situations. We are surrounded by politicians who suffer from this self serving political tunnel vision. Most of these wars are driven by men. Where are the women's voices in all of that? No one is beyond redemption. The solutions that we are looking for in these conflict stricken areas, the solution in all of that for me is we need something.