Speaker B describes addiction as a mental obsession that becomes a physical craving as essential as breathing. He expected his first child's birth to help him quit, but the sleepless nights and constant responsibility made him crave the addictive behavior even more.
When does it turn into addiction? Is that when you're physically addicted? Like, how do you define the difference between—
So in each human being, it's internal. You don't really know.
Yeah.
But when you have the mental obsession that just won't stop, then you have the physical craving.
Yeah.
And you have no solution. Now you need it. You need it like you need air.
Yeah.
Like you need it to breathe, right? So imagine the pressures of life. You're an addict and now someone's going to tell you out of nowhere, stop breathing.
Yeah.
Stop breathing? Like, what are you, crazy? Yeah. And that's what happened to me. Like when I, right before I went to rehab, we were about to have a baby. First one. And I thought my daughter was going to be the solution. Yeah. I thought it was going to give me such a purpose and such a meaning that I'll be able to stop all of this behavior.
Yeah.
I really, really did. Yeah. And I was woken up to reality very quick because I had never loved anything so much in my life. And it wasn't Disney World and puppies and rainbows. It was sleepless nights and baby monitors and baby formula. And it was more responsibility than I ever thought I had within the business. Yeah. And now you want me to stop breathing? Yeah. Believe it or not, it added, it fueled. Like, I need more.
I need more, more, more, more, more.
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