12 Jan 2026 · 0 min
A short podcast conversation about overcoming fear, shame, and unworthiness by confronting worst-case scenarios and doing hard things consistently to build real confidence. Speakers discuss practical examples (skydiving, cold plunges) and a three-question process—worst case, most likely, best case—to accept risks and free oneself to act.
Like for my friend that's listening right now, what is it that you're afraid of? What is it that you're holding on to? What is the thing in the back of your mind that you know, because we all have it that you know it's there, but you suppress yourself out of fear because that's, that's, that's the discomfort zone.
So a lot of times we're not doing it. It's not out of just fear. It's shame, it's guilt, it's not being good enough or worthy. Right? All of those things are mixed in there. For me, it was more shame and worthy than it was fear. The fear was the byproduct product of the shame and the not feeling worthy. So I think doing hard things consistently over time, what it does is it builds confidence. Confidence is the number one driver of performance. And so how do you generate, like true, real confidence? It's just addressing and getting true, real confidence with yourself and in doing so. So an example would be like, if you're afraid of heights, then probably jumping out of an airplane and going skydiving might be a really great way to just open your eyes. I'm like, wow, this is pretty amazing. Or cold plunging. Like I cold plunge every morning when it's really, you know, really freezing water. Why? It's hard. It's how I start my day.
We all in our lives, myself, everyone, you know, you listening, you and I having this conversation. We all have these demons that we have to, like, work through, right? Demons, issues, old beliefs. The thing I always go back to is like three questions for me. And I don't know who gets the credit for this, so I'm not taking credit, but I use it all the time, is I literally start with, okay, so what's the worst case scenario? What's the worst case scenario? And then I'm like. And I wrote down, well, this isn't going to kill me. I'm not going to die, right? And then I'm like, what's the most likely scenario? Well, the most likely scenario is, you know, we shop this to another. You know what I mean? That's the most likely scenario. And then someone else gets it and, you know, maybe they'll take advantage of this and, you know, you know, we can ride off to the sunset together. What's the best case scenario? They change their mind. They change their mind. Maybe, maybe we we missed something in the pitch. Maybe we didn't, you know, demonstrate what it is we said we could do, you know, that kind of thing. But. But I'd always start to remember the first one. If I can accept the worst case scenario, then I'm, like, free of it. So that that helps me work through, that helps me persevere, rather than have 24, 72 hours or 72 weeks or too many years of just being miserable over it. Does that make sense?
It makes total sense.