Facebook LIVE Book Launch of W*F I Found God, in Kensington Market, Toronto (FULL LAUNCH VIDEO)

The recording captures the live launch of Kabiri Dutta Chatterjee’s book WTF I Found God in Kensington Market, Toronto. Kabiri, a former news desk journalist turned author, narrates her personal journey from a multicultural childhood in Kolkata—where Hindu, Muslim, and Christian festivals co‑existed—to a reflective quest for meaning after semi‑retirement. She explains why the COVID‑19 pandemic spurred her to write the 400‑page manuscript, probing the apparent absence of God during mass suffering. The book distinguishes two notions of divinity: a capital‑D supreme God and a lowercase‑d personal god, and blends scientific ideas such as multiverses, wormholes, and the Kardashev scale with mythological narratives. Kabiri critiques how, in Canada, many immigrants cling to rigid religious identities, recounts encounters with prejudice, and questions the relevance of organized religion. Throughout, she weaves philosophical musings that portray God as an all‑pervasive energy, present in atoms, galaxies, and consciousness, and calls for a post‑fundamentalist society where discourse replaces dogma. The launch includes audience interaction, supportive remarks from friends, and a concluding invitation for open dialogue about religion, spirituality, and humanity’s future.
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Oh, that's my pen which is shining. Just take it out. Okay, okay, so I'm going— I've gone live. I hope people are watching. This is the launch of this book, WTF I Found God. And so yeah, I'll just make it this way so that you can see. Okay, you can see the audience a little bit. I can show you the audience around. Still are people coming in because there's a huge construction and people haven't been able to arrive as yet. But I have to start on time. So all of you who are on the way. You can start watching the live and I'll read it for you. But, um, so I have to start right away. So I started writing this book. When I started writing this book, it was just a fun recording of whatever I learned after having semi-retired from being a hard-nosed news desk journalist and was welcoming the change of operating 2 fun businesses from home and leading a reasonably peaceful but boring life in North America. So due to a curious mind, through various scientific, quasi-scientific, and pseudo-scientific knowledge floating in the internet sphere all around me, I found a lot of contradictory and thrilling concepts that I wanted to share. So I started— when I started writing this book— okay, I think I needed a— I was born in the world— a lot of us were born in the world when blackberries and apples were just fruits. Web was a thing that tigers— that spiders spun, and net was something you caught a fish with. Hardware was hammers and saws and nails. And you worked with, and software was never heard of. RAMs, spiders, Blu-rays, bugs were all living creatures, some of them even creepy and crawly. I do not know, I don't understand how they made their way into tech textbooks. Our generation began with a simple radio and rotary telephones, where phones didn't have any caller ID screens and we were free to make any number of crank calls. Then we witnessed the magical invasion of the black and white television, complete with its giant crate and sliding door, giving it a dramatic stage-like effect. It made its grand entry and perched in a pivotal role in our living rooms for life. Even today, larger and larger screens, getting slimmer and slimmer over the years, these TV sets are incontestably the most important device in our lives.
After smartphone.
I had kind of liked our generation. We believed in ghosts, believed in UFOs, Santa Claus, love, and miracles. It was a pleasant state of mind to let someone else take the onus of your existence. It was relaxing to let your imagination construct a guardian angel for yourself. I still do. In fact, I leave a lot of decisions to God and gods. There are 2 types of gods which I have mentioned in my book. One with a capital D and one with small d, that's personal gods. Of UFOs, I am also still a gleeful believer. Born a Hindu, raised in a Hindu household, we never took religion seriously. In fact, we lived in chaos. When I was small, the street in front of my house in Kolkata, India was categorically divided into 3 parts. The heritage yet decrepit Hindu Bengali residence area, complete with Baroque takuddalans, which are like constructions and stages where the idols were worshipped. The multicolored arch-shaped Muslim houses and mosques. And stretching into the last part of the lane were the Gothic-structured grim wooden stair buildings that were inhabited by the Christians. So as children, we had the best of all 3 religions and often forgot which religion we were supposed to follow. During Ramzan and Eid, the same street would be dressed up with lines of colored triangular flags fluttering in the autumn sun. Young boys would run up and down the street wearing skullcaps and vibrant new clothes. Right after the flags begin to tear— start tearing and the young boys have made airplanes out of them, Strings of mango leaves and colored thermocol balls would be hung over the street heralding the advent of Bengal's greatest festival, the Durga Puja. Right after that, during Christmas, the same street would be illuminated with huge paper starlights, balloons, and decorated with the statues of Jesus and Mary. I grew up hearing the litanies of both Azaan and Mahalaya permitting in through my sleep, and learned Christmas carols and hymns from childhood in the Protestant school that I attended for 14 years. They were just festivals for us and not any fervent religious occasions. We bought new dresses and ate awesome food for almost all the occasions— biryani for Eid, Nahum's cake for Christmas, completing our celebration with a small Santa Claus and an artificial Christmas tree. And at least half a dozen new dresses for Durga Puja. I read from Feluda to Naroda and learned about the scientific contributions of Bose to Higin. I only believed in humanity. I never knew religious differences. So I was caught unawares in Canada when a Christian judgmental friend asked in a corny way, "Oh, do you know about Christianity?" You decorate the Christmas tree also. A Muslim colleague asked me one day, do you eat biryani too? I've never seen— I've also seen how a prejudiced senior member of a church— when I walked into the church one day unannounced, struck by the serenity of it. You're a Hindu, right? she asked suspiciously. As I flustered to explain why I love churches and have wailed in front of Jesus with all my troubles, So many times. Okay, we come to the— now we're coming to the controversial parts. Story: In Canada, most people I met were clinging on to their religion much as though their identity depended on it. After encountering many people in Canada who were starting to take my jokes on religion seriously and thinking I'm a freak or something, I began to scour Hinduism sincerely for the first time. Researching beyond my childhood's carefree celebration of Durga Puja, Eid, and Christmas. This search led me into so many interesting facts that I felt the need to write them down. Now it has become a 400-page book. This book will try to go deep into the tenets of all holy books and will try to find out who wrote them in the first place and who made religions and why. And why do they at all talk about a supreme power guiding us? Rationally speaking, when I look at Voyager 1, which was launched by NASA on September 5th, 1977, and that it has sped its way into the— through the sky, through the solar system, and found no giant bearded figure with white robes at the edge of the universe, I'm a little stumped. Yet I worship my God. I burn an incense every day to my Hindu deities and chant a Zen Buddhist mantra while doing so, and decorate my Hindu goddess with maple leaves during Durga Puja. Religious zealots would actually be blasphemed by such concoctions. And I still believe there is a superpower who has plans for my future. And in the same breath, I think, even if there is one, why would he? He has so many creatures to handle. So many more viruses to create. I am so minute in his realm of things. How can he see or partake in any of my problems? I'm so sad to see that God had not been there when we needed him in the wars of Syria and Afghanistan, where children were being sold in cages, women were being treated as sex slaves. Do you think none of them prayed to God? Where was God when Nazis did whatever they did during World War 2? How did evil come to play? Was God not there during the Dark Ages? Yet there are those soothsayers sitting on earth with a group of people at their feet, telling them that God is above us and that he loves us. Above us is the blue sky, which is actually the shortest wave of light caught in the thin crust of the atmosphere that envelops the earth. And that we have been blessed with. Beyond that is black, the nothingness, the millions and billions of light years of space which does not have any beginning nor an end, in which the Earth is just a microscopic speck. Where is God? Where is heaven or hell that you so talk about? And here's a spoiler alert. Of course I found God at the end of the book. I found that a-hole who lit the matchstick and fled, leaving all human— all living things possible to fend for themselves. But him almighty could make us of limited strength and pull his strings in a hypertype technological simulation. And then at the end of each weakling's life, he could judge them on the basis of how they went with the flow Or disobeyed the laws and flicked them off with a finger to some other multiverse, calling it a heaven or a hell, again to be reborn and fend for themselves while Him Almighty played the flute. I found that God. This is a journey for you to find God, to get into the colossal labyrinth of facts and fiction and myth and mythology and data. The stories somehow emerge unscathed with the belief that you have found God. Rightly had— okay, this I'll say to this end. So, uh, now there are a lot of chapters, a lot of parts of the books. Thanks for coming down, everybody. Sorry I had to start on time. Okay, yeah, I can see you, Sylvan. Thanks so much for coming down. Okay, so, uh, there is one chapter over here, uh, which I've— for the reason, the reason why I started writing this book was during the COVID times. When so many millions of people were dying, and there was they were carried in body bags, and even their own relatives were not allowed to touch them. So I I was very frustrated, and I was wondering what was God doing that time? Why is humans suffering so much? So before COVID God was the Almighty, the omnipresent, omniscient. There were thousands flocking to Mecca to visit the Kaaba. Hundreds going to Vatican City, going on Sundays to the churches. Millions were pouring milk on the phallus of Shiva. Thousands were chanting हरे रामा, हरे कृष्णा। Thank you, Reshmi, Sandeep Chaudhary, Shrideshna, Alukika. Oh God, please! I was expecting you here. Kuvapit Krishnan, please. I can bring you all camera if you want to come on camera and all of them. Please come on camera.
I'd love to.
Okay. How many chanting Hare Rama Hare Krishna? God was alive among millions of humans, and then suddenly COVID-19 struck. Churches were closed and Kava was shut down, and temples closed doors.
God shunned us during COVID Not just during COVID Okay, that part we can talk about later. God, according to various religious teachers, is not there to protect you from all evils. He's just there to grant you the strength to fight evils. Believers say that God was crying all around during this suffering when humans were all gasping for breath, choking to death. But God is omnipotent, omniscient, all-powerful, and God loves you. So why was he just crying in the miserable state of his most important creation? Couldn't he squash that microscopic bug with one swish of his hand, of his wand? It seems he's letting you suffer because he loves you. And it seems that, or it had been already prophesied thousands of years back, that such calamities like disease and war will strike mankind. It might kill mankind completely, annihilate it. But doesn't matter. What matters is your relationship with God. Jesus apparently told in the Bible, don't fear those who can kill the body but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him. What is only getting eliminated is just the body, but our soul has an eternal relationship with God. Similarly, Hindus do believe what is getting destroyed is just the body and the soul is getting liberated. They are saying this whole thing is karma. So this is the work of humans themselves digging their own graves for years. Hindu spiritual organization Brahmakumaris issued an online statement sometime in 2020 explaining that mankind has its roots in its past actions. Of course, other Hindus simply drank cow urine to ward off coronavirus. I'm not sure how many people following Islam actually believe that this is the doomsday for us because I saw videos of a bunch of them licking the railings of mosques in Iran, and a whole lot of them were not wearing masks in Canada despite the fact they were deeply diligent about wearing a burqa or hijab at all times. Islam scholars say that God does not punish people unless he sends the messenger to them, explains to people exact punishment that they would receive. Other Islam scholars state— stated that this is possible due to people's sin, and whoever died would be considered as jihadis. Hence Allah is giving them rahmat. There are some other fundamentalists of all religion, Trump, and many Westerners who ordered the sand beaches the moment Trump said the sunlight will kill the virus and scientists will be inverted and inserted in your veins and thought coronavirus is fake news. It is due to such refuters that the virus spread like wildfire and killed all others who were not meant to be. This coronavirus could not— could not be proven, could not be— it's not complete without the pip from Sadhguru, the present-day techie-smart, bike-riding Hindu mystic guru who speaks about everything from Shiva to Madonna. According to him, Shiva, the Hindu god of creation and destruction, is okay with the virus.
When asked what Shiva opinion—
what Shiva's opinion about the coronavirus, he said, Shiva has no problems with the virus. You see, he says, the virus is also life, and Shiva supports all forms of life. So the virus behaves smartly and mutates into 10 different dimensions. You may come up with one vaccine to kill one, but the other 9 will survive and mutate into 900. Who knows? Actually, though the virus is not really life, he was just correct. As I write this, virus is mutating and devastating my home country. Yeah, so this is about a bit from the coronavirus, uh, God Absent During Coronavirus, which I've seen. Next, I'll, uh, go to the chapter which is God and Religion. How are they connected? How is God connected with religion? I'm still expecting Indrani, if you can come. I'm so happy you're still there on camera, on watching me. I'm so happy.
Please be with me.
Thank you. So how did we start worshiping God in the first place? To say this, let me just tell you one small, uh, thing from another chapter. The one thing that I'm going to be making clear in this book, entire book, is that spirituality and religion are 2 separate things. You can be spiritual yet not be religious. You can be religious, follow all religious rituals and customs, yet be so lost in them that thought of finding God never occurs to you. Or you can be agnostic, searching for the truth, not be religious or spiritual at all. Or you can be an atheist yet be deeply spiritual to the universe and the creation. Having said that, to understand who was God in the first— first, who was the first God ever, we have to take a sneak peek into our ancient history. From the beginning, man had always believed something greater than himself. Neanderthal man existed from nearly 30,000 years ago. There is evidence of religious practices amongst at least some Neanderthal populations, like the embryonic position. And the east-west orientation of some burials, burials which— with grave goods such as stone tools, the possible scattering of blossom, flower blossoms. In the beginning, the more humans ventured out from their caves, the more they met with things they didn't understand, and the more they worshipped them, like the sun, storms, the waves, the sea. So we have, uh, I'll just Tell you a little bit. Like the Egyptians worshiped the sun god Ra. Similarly, the Hindus worship the sun god Agni, and I guess the Greeks worshiped a similar sun god. So all nature was worshiped in different forms all over the world in different communities.
Okay, so I talk about the religions and Hinduism over here.
I'm not going to get into very big details because we have limited time. The universe is really, really old, over 13 billion years old. In comparison, the Earth is 4 billion years old. We all know that. We all know, we all know now that the universe contains at least 2 trillion galaxies in our own Milky Way.
Now look at this.
This is the very mind-boggling big place. It is difficult to believe God would place his greatest creations on this obscure part of the universe in the tiniest and most helpless form. So helpless that they would have to evolve like infants over time without any guardian, from inventing fire to discovering iron and all the elements around him for his benefits, to the latest inventions of the smartphone, AI, and robots. If God created man in his own image, why would he or she make humans so helpless?
Why wouldn't he—
I'm just using he for continuous convenience— have created us directly with all the amenities around us so that we could have started at level 4 of the Kardashev scale. The Kardashev scale is a kind of method of measuring the amount of civilization's level of technological advancement and, and become an interplanetary race already, unless he values rocks and cosmic dust more highly than humans. It also seems that even though God has created all life on this only one medium-sized planet, Only humans worship God. Did you witness any tiger worshipping God? Do polar bears have God?
So is it true that God created man, or is it the other way around?
So here, from, from here to here, like the middle of the book, I debunk the existence of God completely. So there is another one, another small paragraph which I'd like to say. As for Hinduism's Lord Krishna, who was born into mankind to save mankind, apparently plays with the universe like his toys. So what has been the intention of God? To belittle mankind? Okay, so we've spoken about this a little bit. So let me go jump into right away, jump into God and Parallel Universe. Okay, so there is a chapter called God and Parallel Universe. Parallel universes are no longer figment of imagination. Scientists believe they exist in theory. It seems that a complete me or you exist in another universe, leading some other life, may have taken some other decision. So what do you think you want to be? A parallel universe counterpart to be? It's like we had— we have taken decisions in our lives, different decisions, like, and our lives have branched out into one. So the other person, other me, which had taken the other decision, where do you think her life or his life would have branched out into? It's a nice place for us to think and analyze. And now parallel universes are becoming, slowly becoming a scientific theory, you know, if not—
it's—
and also a lot of science fiction, uh, books, content of a lot of science fiction movies. Actually, there are not just one universe, there are several. In fact, और द मल्टीवर्स है, और अकॉर्डिंग तू फिजिक्स में मीटियो काकू, 11 डाइमेंशंस हैं द मल्टीवर्स। नाउ व्हेन आई स्टार्टेड रिसर्चिंग, आफ्टर आई फाउंड आउट दैट साइंटिस्ट्स वर वेरी सीरियस अबाउट पैरेलल यूनिवर्स और टॉकिंग ऑफ पैरेलल यूनिवर्स, आई वेंट इनटू द रिलिजियस एस So there is one thing before I go into the religious part of it. I just think that if there is a wormhole, and it's just profound, there's actually a place where I mentioned a wormhole. It is a speculative structure linking disparate points in space-time, and it's based on a special solution of the Einstein field equations. In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen Describe how 2 sheets of space-time can be joined together, creating a bridge between the 2 universes. This is one kind of a wormhole, and you can actually space travel through space or time travel through a wormhole. So after this, when I looked at the concept of God and multiverse in religion, I found myself diving into a rabbit hole. What about Christianity? Religious Christian physicists believe that if multiverse exists, it would surely be created by God.
Stephen Hawking—
okay, Stephen Hawking existed, exited the Earth by saying there's no God and no one directs our fate in his final book, Brief Answers to the Big Questions. I hope he's not regretting his decision now. So twice in Bible, like in Bible, twice Jesus entered the group of his disciples without using a door. In John 20, by New Testament, verses 19-23 and 26-29. Entering a room through the walls is only possible by the 4th dimension, which is a part of the dimensions or the parallel universe. Another example of movement is only possible in the 4th dimension is contained in Acts 8, verses 39-40. This Philip baptized a eunuch on a road And that swept up was swept up by Lord and found later that day at Azadus, which was several days journey from where Philip baptized the woman. So that is some examples of parallel universe existing in Bible. So parallel universe is existing in the in the okay, but it's all illusion. So let me just tell you a little bit about it. In Islam, how it exists is in one verse in Quran, it says, praise to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the worlds. That is Surah Al-Fatiha, verse 1:2.
Note the word is worlds, not world.
It means that Allah is the creator, sustainer, and master of all the worlds in our universe. and inevitably any inhabitants on this world. In another verse in the Quran, it says, and among his signs is the sign of heavens and the earth and the living creatures that he scattered through them. He has the power to gather them together when he wills. So also, jinn is an Arabic term used in the Quran to describe beings that live beyond our perception. As some literary scholar points out, the term popularly popularly attributed attributes to genies or demons, but its actual meaning has a far wider implication than that. Thank you, Shubha. Thank you, Dorothy.
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Okay. Okay, so thanks for watching everybody.
So in fact, the jinns are concealed from our senses, the jinns, sorry, and implicate that they live in dimensions beyond our perception. The Quran often refers to a deep realm which is beyond the reach of human perceptions. So in Hinduism, when I started this, I realized that Parallel universe exists, existed, existed. Thanks, Indrani, for coming down.
We're waiting for you.
Existed even before humankind or scientists even thought about them. Scientists are just beginning to think about them. The religion, religious texts actually had them thousands of years back. So Hindus and Hinduism believes that darkness is primal. Like in Bible says God, Bible says God said that let there be light in Genesis 1:3 around 4004 BC. But Hinduism believes that darkness is primal, constant, and permanent. Lights come and go like a bulb or the sun. They will eventually die out. The Hindu texts Primarily, the meeting of the Puranas describe innumerable universes existing all the time. So Hinduism, there is almost 7 lokas, and the distinction— there are 7 lokas, they have their own lokas, and it just goes on and on and on. Hinduism, it's an elaborate, uh, you know, elaborate mention of various dimensions that have been existing. वेरियस प्लेन्स और यहाँ भी ऑल हो देता है कि इसने हेल्थ एंड डिफरेंट काइंड्स ऑफ़ हेल्थ इंस्टेंट डिफरेंट पार्ट्स ऑफ़ हेल्थ दे ऑल एक्जिस्ट इन इन द लोकल इन द विगत टेक्सबुक्स हिंदू ओडिबुक्स ओके सो कमिंग तू द एंड ऑफ़ मैं आई वांट टेक मच ऑफ़ योर टाइम So I will— I'll come to the last part of the book, which is saying, WTF, I found God. So why then give this name? Actually, by the end of this research, when I just, you know, I stopped writing and I said— I just said this aloud, WTF, I found God. That was what came out from my mouth. That is exactly the thing I feel, to be very honest with you. I thought it was very honest thing to do, give exact this name on the COVID So I was too scared to start writing this chapter, the last chapter, which is called WTF, I Found God. I'm scared that my— I mean, I misled you into believing or not believing something. I'm scared that so many things may have developed after the publication of this book that I might sound stupid. Subconsciously, this book has become a letter to no future generations. A kind of calling from the past when we did not know a lot of things. If you're 100 years into the future, you may laugh and think how naive this book is, of which I'm sure, because when I look even 30 years into my past, I see how naive we were. So here is a letter for you. I'm sure humanity is still searching for God, and there are still staunch fundamentalists who are worshipping God and fighting wars over religion. This is for you. The youth of tomorrow to understand how to confront this fundamentalism. If you do not know, if you do not know how to find God, how will you teach others how to find him or abandon the search completely? When we pray sincerely in front of God, we ask exactly what we want. The moment we ask this, we know what we want and then work consciously towards that goal. Once we achieve that goal, we attribute that success to that particular temple, church, mosque, or the gods, and make that construction, the deity, famous. God didn't do it, you did it. Is it the mind that rules, makes you or breaks you? The mind that defines you? The mind finds God inside, within oneself? Despite all doubts. I had to go deep into soul-searching and quantum meditation to be able to establish the presence of a higher self, higher dimension existing in each one of us, in each atom, inside each core. I became as tiny as a core and then I became all-encompassing as a multiverse. I realized how tiny I am and then how giant I am. I began to grasp how unimportant I am, and then I recognized how important I am. I am microscopic in the realms of the universe, yet I'm leaving my footprint behind, leaving my generations behind, aiding in continuation of humankind. I am destructible, but my soul isn't, my spirit isn't, my footprint in the iCloud isn't. मैं डीएनए इज़म। I am there, always will be there. I am the speck of— I am a speck in the sands of time. But I compose the time, the specks, the space, the universe. I am the basis of matter. So are you. So is the rock nearby. So is the multicolored dust between. So is my arrowhead. Just like what Krishna told Arjuna in the great words of Mahabharata that comprise the Bhagavad Gita, I began to feel how little we know about God. We place him in churches, temples, mosques, and gurdwaras, try to harness the explosive energy of little puddles, and think we have visited God. No, dearies, God is not just there in the temples and churches. God is not just in the manifestation of him in little idols of Ganesh, दुर्गा जी, God is not just there in the east.
God is in the strings of all beings.
God is in the ether, the vacuum, the darkness. Like tiny atoms, protons and leptons fill up the air, but we cannot feel or see them unless we want to harness them. Similarly, the power of God is all around us. We cannot feel it or see it unless we want to harness it within ourselves. God is that living, breathing energy that created the universe, that breathtaking rainbows on Earth, vast oceans, the exhilarating waterfalls, gorgeous rivers, mountains. Look around, the kaleidoscope aurora borealis, the grandeur of the nebula floating bright in the dark sky. space, way past our galaxies. The claw is grabbing other galaxies, star clusters, some planets, moons, asteroids, meteors, comets, just like a game, just like a psychedelic video game. No wonder poet Qazi Nasrullah Islam, as well as scientist Michio Kaku, said the same thing, that God is playing a game up there and the game has just begun. Thank you.
Thank you so much.
So this has a number of chapters, and yeah, I'm sure you will find it interesting. So I would like to— for small discourse we have after this, that is the topic of discussion is Religion game over. I know this is way, way up like way beyond our situation right now. This ahead of time, ahead of time discuss this right now. But I want your opinions on this and your honest opinions on this. Like it's having a सोसाइटी में जब आप हैव नो पायर्स, यू आर नॉट पायर्स, जस्ट जज़ द क्यूएनपी विदाउट द पायर्स ऑफ़ जजिंग यू फ्रॉम अ रिलिजन, जेंडर, सेक्स, कलर, कंट्री, क्रीड, एक्सेप्ट, डिसएप्ट, एनीथिंग। इट्स दैट काइंड ऑफ़ सोसाइटी दैट वी वांट टू हेड टू। आर वी रेडी फॉर इट? सो दैट इ My favorite, Bibi and Abda. Abda Ali Beg, right? Okay, please come up. And Idrani, Rahul, please come up on stage and we can just talk about— you guys can talk about this. I'll lend you the mic. So I'll just guide it. Okay, thanks so much for coming on.
I'm really happy that you came.
Oh my God, this is such an honor.
Um, I just want to introduce myself.
It's not who I am in front of, but this relationship completes the cycle, you know. And Mabini's husband and I are toddler friends.
I'm telling you, when we were toddlers, probably from the first year of his life or second year, his mother and my mother were best friends. So we used to work together and we used to have a shared childhood.
So when I talked to her about the country, I think I was one of the first people to meet her because she comes from the very last phase of my time together with Ravi, her husband, my very last husband.
So I have met her not because I wanted anything to say in the book, I am here not because I am a written person in our community. I am not here because I want to write and I want to be a written person. I'm here because I love her writing.
I love that she has Had the guts and audacity to voice what is meant to be acknowledged?
How many individuals have been?
I love it, and I want to share my support because I believe that it's a great book, and it's our bloodline. She's happy in her present status where she has one little foot and a tiny little thing.
She hasn't retired. She wants to think so, but she has a little teeny little You know, inside retirement and just loving what the work that she does.
And I think that needs immense support. So yes, um, I don't want to talk much about religion because, you know, that's a difficult topic.
And because I don't want to raise a war inside this room, that's not my purpose.
And that's coming from my perception, that's coming That's coming from who I am. So I really don't want to, you know, or I don't have the audacity. So what I really would love to say is I love what she said about God. I loved that she and I actually think the same.
The whole time that it gets into her, I was thinking, you know, like every human mind, why is she saying that?
But ultimately, by the end of the book, she and I are the same.
And that is the beauty of this session.
So once again, she reiterated the fact, who is God? Did God create man, or did man create God? What is the problem to feel that it is important? Man probably, God probably created the best creation, and that's us. And then we, now we think and feel God the way we are, we think about Him. And God is loving God.
And why should we extinguish the fact that this God was born from our parents' mind?
That that's wrong, or that's criminal, or that's whatever. Why?
Hasn't every sculpture, every philosophy, every artistic work, every creation—
has it not been created from man's mind?
So what is wrong if from that mind a goddess is created?
So, you know, I don't know where I read it, but I don't know that from. It's just actually the generator, the, you know, God is a generator and the open is probably somebody who has organized and then the destroyer. So what is it that makes us think that we can have organic beings that destroy? We are in the same prototype. We are generating, we are organizing, and then we destroy. And again, I'm saying that this is how it is not about some, you know, specific form, some. And she said it so beautifully at the very onset that we come from a country where everything is in. Has been embraced.
We've had the best feeds, we've had the best pieces, and we have celebrated.
Okay, it's sad now. In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, down and backwards. I think I don't know the powerful into broken. My you know very very effective is now enormous.
She grew up in Delhi, she learned Sanskrit online, and now she's there in Banaras. She's taken it here to Banaras because she wants to learn by Hindu's methods.
But that, in my mind, doesn't undermine any other religion. That is how we grow. I went to an Irish school. An Irish conference school, then already to found it. To school, don't believe. Today what we're going to be doing as an immigrant woman teaching in a college is because I went that far to school.
Would not be great if it was this, but I hope you should feel angry that I was barred from schooling. My mother can't get into school, and so that we all are. That's the energy in me, that transformed it, that created it. Spirit.
Why should God be somewhere else? And that is my spirit.
The minute I shut my eyes, I see that spirit inside me.
What is that spirit? I got to know Kaberi very recently.
To love a dog, some of us might buy a couple. There's one fact coming to bring out it at times. I don't think about all of it, to be honest. I don't have to be honest with others, but I want to be honest.
I do sometimes think about people who have a lot of things that they can think of, like struggling. Oh, I'm afraid to be bothered.
It's just kind of empty. I cannot relax.
I didn't grow up. It's not in my bed.
So my solution is to just solve my own problem.
What can I do?
Or what can friends do? I don't think about it. But I'd be envious of my mother who can just put it in her mind and say, drop Chinku in that bed.
How am I going to put it?
It's amazing.
I still cannot.
I don't know if I'm going to. So I'm very, very inadequate to talk about religion and all of the different religions. I grew up in a tribe that led me to an English medium school, to a Catholic school. I did not, I remember, learn much about Islam very well.
I did not read it very well.
It was very distant from the religion I was born into. I've always appreciated the fact that we are trying to change the things to embrace people's identities, to acknowledge gender, whatever. But somewhere, I'm sure, I feel like, how do you think about that space? If those things bring solace, if those things bring joy, that's okay. Just because I didn't grow up in it, So I'm just like someone just rambling here. It's probably so upsetting of who I am, but kudos to you for being who you are and knowing to write about it. Or even starting this discussion, and I think these types of discourse needed.
I did bring this up with children last week, probably.
I was very interested in their Gen Z take on it, and they were not very extreme. They didn't say, "Oh, yeah." They just said, and I agree, we have to be some more soft. That's a very comforting aspect. She's not using that to eat. She's not using that to drink.
It's bringing her comfort.
It's bringing her solace.
That's something I wish I had because I don't know how to cook. I don't know how to cook food.
I don't know how to cook at all. I go to the puja when I'm sharing. I go to the puja.
It's fine.
I don't do it there daily. So someone that they know from the putting panel and you might just talk to people. So I don't. I think that that's important. That's one thing. I think it's important that you feel comfortable about it. I think it's humility. How you grew up may not be the way you else was raised. So they have their group. My mother was raised very differently in her generation. She didn't have the Catholic education I had. Her expectations were different. So we're not to dismiss what's safe for ourselves. Because I was raised differently, I don't know. There's a core that needs to be established. There is a part of me that is very open to the possibility that it should be That they give me the power to stand here and say, I don't believe in God. I don't believe in God.
I think I have it in me when I feel a part of it.
Oh, I'm so educated. So I'm going to put the story in. It's a real story. I was, um, I was in the big city. अंदर से आज भी मुझे एक बात क्या है कि मैंने तो देखा है कि अब हम जाने कोई प्रश्न नहीं समझ पाएं कि क्यों व्यक्ति के चेहरे से कुछ भी दिखाई देता है और मैंने हर रात पूछा है कि तुम्हें तो दिखती है कि हमारे चेहरे से कोई काला रोना है तो कोई ऑक्सीजन It's it's not so it's not religion. For me, it comes to become totally positive. I have a strong connection to Christians, Muslims. I loved eating growing up. I always ate a little bit of meat. I love my friends. My God, I love I love my dad always put So it's never about the child, nor the child is the child.
It's about the exposure and the problem.
Because the major problem is not the child. At that point, that brings a comfort, that brings a solace. Ultimately, that puts you in love.
That's okay.
And when I tell them, our friends in India, they're waiting there with a lot of Or anything like that, right? So, so it's really important. And some, some people don't want to actually wait. Like, I hear many parents say, look, this is not important. So who am I to tell this parent don't send their kid to school? So we have our second question. सोसाइटी के पूर्व जज, इवन प्रॉपर्टीज़ का। दैट शुड एक्जिस्ट। ये क्लियर नाम स्टार्ट होता है कि क्या एक्सिस्ट। एंड ऑफ़ कोर्स, प्रॉपर्टीज़ का प्लेस, बट आई जस्ट सिंपली नाम स्टार्ट होता है। तो कोर्ट्स, दैट्स द ब्रिटिश रोडेज़। For me, I think religion is to be a good instrument.
We are giving it from local heart, local people, take care of people around you, take care of the earth, take care of the way you are living, take care of the people. I think that's the religion. I think that's what in our religion, I'm from Muslim, I don't know about the others.
In our religion, what It changes lives.
It's never like life is really going to change for you. You are going to die one day. You are going to take your good deeds, your good faith, whatever you have done good in this life. You are going to take it with you. Only yourself. Nobody is going to be there for you. Nobody is going to take care of you once you are gone. And that's like being a good humanist. What I think really is that's that's what my thinking is. A lot of amazing things, and I'm really, really speechless. Thank you so much, everyone. Thank you, everyone, for so much.
Thank you so much for listening to the session.
Thank you all for staying up with us to the most.
And they, they're going to be coming here very soon. But yes, they are going to be here soon.
So what can we present ourselves?
Be ready.
Are you ready for humanity to unite together and present ourselves to the next region? I'm American.
Hindi.
Hindi.
Looks like.
Yes, sir. And Pedro, no.
Get ready to fight.
Okay, so we will fight with the. Yes, you're right. I'm just, uh, you're right.
Maybe it's true that there are thousands of souls who are present.
I know that they are here. I know that Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
Yes, let's celebrate with that. So there's going to be no fight and we're going to be all together, harmonious humans and aliens, all living together in the same universe. Thank you so much, guys. Yeah, so yeah, that like kind of thing. That doesn't mean we don't disagree. We do disagree and we have our own discourse and discussions.
Yes, that brings that, you know, sharpens human minds and brings about more, uh, advancement.
Unless we discuss, we have discourses, unless we debate and analyze logically each other, even forward to such a step, human advancement won't take place. But thank you so much, guys, for coming here. I am so happy that finally I've been able to do a physical book launch of this book and that I've been able And I want to reach beyond this school, beyond everything, because this book, I think, will touch your heart and touch your soul.
And this is some way, you know, you connect with your own God every day.
Thank you so much, guys. Thank you everybody for watching on Facebook Live. I just have to finish this. Let me know what— Okay, there are some snacks over there. Please help yourselves.
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