Epiosde 445: Everything is Connected – Like the Root to the Leaf with Kalpesh Patel

Welcome to this episode of the Million Dollar Mastermind. I'm Larry Weddell. And before we get started, if you want to know exactly how to win again and again, go to Wydell on winning.com webinar now to watch something I've put together for you. Now let's get going into this episode of Million Dollar Mastermind. We're going to be talking now with a great friend of mine, Kalpesh Patel. Hello, Kalpesh.

Hi, Larry.

And getting people to understand who you are and you know, you don't fit into a neat little box. But I will tell, tell people that Calpash has a wide background of experiences in many areas and many countries. I mean, you know, he's got a family, comes out of India, he grew up in London. His family moved over to Gainesville and from that, you know, restarting doing different businesses. They've been in the restaurant business, they've been in this business, that business. And you have, you learn a lot of things and especially if you do it well. And then Calpash is responsible for one of the major therapist programs that he came up with that helped me come back to life after my injury. I think I was up around the 300 pound level when I. And I was about to die and I had done good to be able to drive the four hours up to Gainesville without collapsing. And so I made that it was so valuable. I made it part of my regular routine for years. And so Calpash and I had many, many conversations about life and success, winning and overcoming. And I thought I'd share some of those things with you. And we'll find more out about Calpash's background. But the great thing is he's just starting, this is the first year, I believe, of starting his own practice, cutting the ties with all the other organizations and affiliations so he could get out and kind of blossom.

Yes.

And do the things that you do when you get out on your own to take your intellectual, your knowledge, your information, your value and kind of follow your own instincts to get that out there in the marketplace with teaching, with courses and everything.

Yes.

And so he, you know, he's got certifications and training and teaching. He's a trainer of, he's an advanced practitioner and a trainer in or ortho Bionomy. And those of y' all who probably most of you are not familiar with it will give you an idea of this is some pretty esoteric areas. But just because, and that leads me in Kalpash, to what I said we were Going to start with that leads me into our opening thought, which. Just because you can't see these things or just because you don't know where they are, doesn't mean that they don't matter. And there are things going on beneath the surface that have an amazing impact on your life and can't be fixed with a pill or surgery. And so anyway, that's the world that Kalpesh operates in. And he is. There's no way of measuring this, but he has insights into how the body works and how to restore order with your organs and get things working. If you did not know, you would say it's magic. But he's got like, all things. You get involved in it because you have your own problems. And he forced himself to study it, and he found out that he developed unique insights. And so he's able to fix. We'll talk about that. He's able to unravel mysteries that nobody else seemed to be able to fix with the body. And not excluding professional athletes and medical professionals that have go in there and they can prescribe it, they can write their own prescription for any kind of pill, but they know that's not going to solve the problem. And so they wind up talking to Calpash. So we are ready to go, and we're going to open with this. Kal Pash and I were talking one day and he said, I just get frustrated hearing people where the light bulbs start to go on in their mind with therapy and starting it results. And they're like, with great wonder and amazement, they'll say, it's almost like, you know, these things are connected. You know, you know, your mind, your body, your flow, you know, your weight, you know, chemical thing and how your organs function and your body makeup and your structure. It's kind of like almost like they're connected, you know, the way.

I think I said something, one of my personal faults is that I can be quite facetious. And I think I said something like, it's almost like the root and the leaf are somehow connected magically.

Root and the leaf or the leaf and the tree. How does that work? That's crazy.

Yeah.

When we have complex, you know, more than just about anybody else that is in the therapy universe, Kalpesh understands the complexity and the fact that there is a structure, there is an organization, and every piece of it matters. And when things shut down, there's a backlog of things that go cascade. Origami type effect.

Exactly. I think the thing is that often there are sort of two camps. There are People that are willing to look at how complex things really are. But those people tend to stay in research because it takes all their brain power just to do all the complicated math. And then there are people that want to do interventions and they kind of like they can't keep looking at the big picture because it can just get overwhelming. So they're really looking for formulas, things that are going to be a wide net. And then if you're just using formulas in a wide net all the time, you're going to lose sight of the big picture after a while. It's just the nature of the beast, right? And so one of the things that I realized was sending sort of people would end up getting funneled to me one way or the other because they needed somebody to kind of still step back and look at the larger picture and be willing to struggle with the complexities of it all because the simpler approach hadn't worked, right? So I, I used to make a joke that I'm usually the eighth person that you come and see, not the first or second, right? So all in terms of therapies or interventions, all the low hanging fruit has already been picked. I'm, you know, as soon as you come to me, I expect to be reaching on my tippy toes and, and, and reaching for things because if the complicated stuff is all that's left, really.

You know, and if people where the, the implications of what we're just talking about here that I, I. The purpose of this podcast is to get people to be aware and to think, you know, and at the end of it, be determined to keep on looking. If you haven't found the solution for whatever your problem is, right, your relationship and your body, in your fitness, in your business, any area of your life, that what happens is the first things you do when things go wrong is you look to the formulas, you know, and the people, you know, it's amazing to me, calpe they even brag about if you want to be an expert in whatever subject, you get a blog, you know, you get a website in a blog and you give away free information and they'll even tell you you don't even have to know anything about it. You can just hire, you can just hire writers and you say, you know, on, you know, endurance running or you know, training for Ironman, you know, you know, they'll go in there and all they'll do is they'll type that into Google, pull up a bunch of other articles and they'll regurgitate that stuff out and they have no clue Guy might be, he might weigh 500 pounds, you know, but he's writing through this thing. You don't know. All you see is their byline, you know, And a lot of times they'll take that byline and they'll put it underneath the guy who has the website. So he'll appear to be the expert. But like how you will lose weight, how you deal with this relationship problems, how you, you're in your business and this, that and the other. And that's really goes to the root of why I did this podcast is so people could actually hear from people who are dealing with these complex issues and have gone down and dug down deep and found solutions. And they sound. The funny thing is these solutions sound like easy answers if you don't know the implications in the application.

You know, sure, sure. And, and hindsight is 20 20. Right. So it's like once you find the right solution and it fits well with the problem, then there's a simplicity to that that can fool you into thinking, well, finding that was going to be just as simple as how it is to apply it and, you know, the hunting of it. I would say that one of the biggest factors for me, and when I teach people, I teach general sort of beginner level courses, but I also have mentees who are people that are already in practice, have some very successful practices, but they're mentees because they're interested in how I go about doing my analysis and they want to learn the analytical method from me. And so these are very capable people. And so I have to come up with advice for them that's very rich in dynamic advice. I can't give them again, I can't rely on a formula for advising people that are already quite capable. Right. Yeah. I have to give them something really juicy. And one of the things that I say to them is collect models. Don't fall back on one model, don't fall back on two models. If a model works, recognize that that model is making a certain piece of reality easy to see. The model makes something easier to zoom in on. But by definition, that means that it's cutting out other parts of the big picture.

Right.

So unless you have a collection of models, you're not going to have something comprehensive to look at.

Right.

And our mind is so limited, it can only focus on so much at a time. So models are really helpful because it kind of like pares things down for us. But I, I think that there's sort of a, an instinct in people that if they find a model that works they. They feel beholden to that in some way emotionally, and then they'll just sort of like, try to apply that model to everything. Like they owe something to the model, like some sort of, like, oh, a loyalty to the model in some way or something.

Well, let's talk about, you know, to kind of. This is. This is going exactly the way I wanted it to go because the. To kind of re. Capture what the direction we're going in is in. Every. Oh, we'll get on this. Every area of life, you have decisions you have to make, and you're presented with problems. And when you start to unravel that things, you find out what seemed to be incredibly complex in the beginning. Once you finally work your way around to where you have the answer now, it seems to be incredibly obvious and simple.

Right, Right.

The point is that as you go in, models are ways of solving a particular problem. Like, in this situation, do this, and everybody who becomes highly functional in their specialty has systems. Their systems, their plans. And just like a mechanic. And those models, those tools are just like a master mechanic has a big tool chest full of tools that he'll only use rarely. When a certain model comes in with a certain problem and you can't get it with anything but the. This particular tool.

Right. But it's no.

Yeah.

And it's no use the rest of the time. Right, Right.

No use the rest. But it's the same way, like, if you're an attorney or a doctor, there's so much stuff to keep up with. That's why they have all the books now. They have it online so much. But they used to have big walls of books behind their thing, because inside those books were models, systems, plans. Like in this situation. Boom, boom, boom. You know, And I've also just said, like, in leadership, like the great generals, the greatest generals are the ones with the most plans, the most. They know in this situation, you know, early in the year, when the enemy comes in in the morning, this, that, and the other. Here's your op. And it's just like so many things in life, Kalpesh. Like, if you're on a golf course, every shot can be different, unique. And like, if you're. You're in the sand trap on the side of the. You know, you're 50 yards out, you're 150 yards out. You're in the trap of the bunker, the side of the thing. You know, how you do that, how you line up. And I always had to get it down where it was like, okay, what are the 1 2, three things I need. Now, if it's a long bunker shot, as I remember, I'll get corrected on this. But it's been a while since I played golf. It's like, you know, spread your legs, take an extra club, swing slow so you don't dive in and catch the club in the sand and swing, you know, take a full swing smooth through a one, two, three thing, you know. And just to kind of remind, reset your head. Now, if you're putting, you got a long putt, short putt, a downhill putt, this, that, the other. You know, how even how you read the putt, it's like, 1, 2, 3, first check the grain, then check where the sun is. Check if there's any water, because that will cause, you know, the grain, you can't even tell. But it might. The ball might roll uphill because there's a water feature, you know, over here or a mountain, you know, it'll go to the mountain, you know. And so you get these things in and all those are models, those are systems, those are plans, little things for that little situation. But. And use the bunker model for every shot out there.

Right.

You're going to be scoring in the hundreds, you know.

But there are people who will do it. They'll swear up and down it's the right thing to do because it performed so well for them at the bunker.

Right.

So they'll take that quality component. They'll take that quality marker being really high as somehow standing for truth, because a high quality marker. And they'll equate that with like a solidity somehow across circumstances.

Well, they'll. They'll try. They'll. They'll equate it to results. You know, I follow the plan, you know.

Right, right, right. But no, but I don't mean just that they'll. They'll. They kind of. People go into absolute truths kind of mode.

Right, right. Well, the thing is that you have to go by results. You know, what we're talking about here is to go by results.

But they won't. The second one, the second result will be awful, and they'll just grip the plan harder and feel like didn't do it.

Right. They've got to do it again.

So they'll try to find some way to still make the model fit. And so that's the thing that I'm trying to communicate to people who are. Are smart, they want to achieve things. They have a certain degree of emotional and mental agility.

Yeah.

And resilience. Well, what, you know, what to do with all that agility and resilience. Like what, what do you, how do you use that emotional agility? Resilience. Resilience is that every time you shift models, it's unsettling emotionally.

Right.

So those who are not emotionally resilient will avoid changing models simply because it's destabilizing. Right. It's a little smack to your ego.

Well, the other thing is we get these models from. And this is taking off on your point. We'll get these things in our head. Let's say we learn a lot of this from a person.

Right.

I follow Tony Robbins, I follow John Maxwell. I got out of his book. I got so much out of it. Napoleon Hill. And then if you get. And that'll be good, that's good for junior high school level, you know, getting yourself disciplined and mentally organized. You know, there's the basics. That's a phase you go through and those things. But the high level stuff, me, it comes to when you're. You go beyond simple, basic fundamentals.

Right.

And if you're holding fast, it's like, now I'm going to go back and listen to those Tony tapes, John Maxwell tapes again. You know, I'm missing something, you know. Right. It's like, no, you got it all. It's now time to go on. Use that.

Exactly.

And move on. And maybe teach yourself. Just observe one thing you can do when there's in the absence somebody. If you're in the wilderness and you've had the survival courses and it's just, you know, you're still lost. Well, you might have to figure something out yourself.

Yes, exactly. Exactly.

You might have to like, try something that you haven't tried before and use that coconut on your shoulders and. Because actually it's pretty, pretty gifted. You know, there's a lot of things that are resourceful for you if you'll use it.

You know, I mean, you know, if somebody asks me for my credentials, Larry, more than any of my training, what I would quote to them is the number of hours I've spent observing. Yeah, right. I have, I would say, hey, you know, I have close to 40 hours a week for 20 years of clinical observation. You know, I go in the forest and I keep busy and I keep my eyes peeled and I make notes and I collect information and I go back to things I saw three years ago and go, now, you know, there was a thing I saw that never did make sense. Then let me look at it again in light of what I've seen now and see if I can make Sense of it now or. Oh, I saw this before. What did I write down five years ago? Let me go find my notes, dig them out and see what I wrote about that. Oh, look at that. Well, yeah, so it's really. It's this and the observation that you're talking about. I feel like those are more substantial credentials for me than the training that any formal training that I've done. The training just helped me open the doors, get me in the door, as it were.

Right.

But the observation is really where I would say the biggest value for learning has been for me.

And a takeaway for people listening to that who go to school. You'll see the people who get their degrees and their master's in business and, you know, doctorate or whatever. But, you know, you need to know there's a lot of people with a doctorate that are driving trucks because they just can't get, you know, there's a lot of people that go to medical school and get the certifications and they just cannot function on their own. And then they're working in the emergency room for by the hour or whatever, you know, and just a lot of attorneys go out there and work for, you know, just become corporate lawyers because they just can't get the same degree as the big legal stars. You hear about where they're. I just got, well, you know, $400 an hour, $600, a thousand. It's whatever they can get away with. But if you want that guy, that's what you had to pay because they only have so many hours and. But the same. He's got the same education as the guy that's looking for work, you know, he's on salary, you know, shuffling papers inside a corporation somewhere, going nowhere.

Yes. Yeah.

So if you put. The thing we're saying is, don't put too much hope or confidence in the fact that you've got a ticket on the wall.

No, no, of course not. Yeah.

It's. What you do is. It's. It's always comes down to what you. That's the clinical thing. You gotta be clinical. This is not. Calpash is a clinical operator. If you're going to be a leader, you know, you're going to probably be 60, 80 hours a week thinking about. Yes, exactly.

You're thinking about it all the time, right?

Yeah. If you.

If you're.

You're going to be elite in anything, whatever your field is, you gotta. You're going to get there by what you do and what you figure out. And you got to think about this and you got to develop. And it's like, I'll wrap this one up with this part, with this. It's like they told me about classically trained musicians and they said, you know, you get the classically trained guy, he's used to working off a score, either a guitarist or a piano player or whatever, and you put them at the local bar where the local pros and guys get together and just jam. And he said they're like, they're walking on stilts, you know, everything. And any and one conclusion is these guys, they can only do it, you know, they can only play that way. But the reality is that the guy who was a musician, had been in this world forever, told me, he says the reality is they could improvise as well or better than anybody there. They just have never spent any time doing it. They spent their time looking, playing that score, learning how to interpret that complex piece of music and without error. And so it's a totally different thing to think on your feet and use that not. But he said they can do it, they just haven't done it. And so what take away from people is here. Get yourself thinking on your feet, you know, start making, you know, trying to figure things out for yourself. Make some decisions. And don't worry if you fall in your face a lot, because a lot of times if we were honest when we do fall on our face early in our career and you're tempted to say, I'm just not good enough or whatever, no, you just got to get better, you know.

Well, so I appreciate you saying that because that's exactly what I was going to come to is that one thing I think that happens is that people don't take the time to calculate their margin of error. And so they sort of fear that there is no margin for error and then they hem themselves in too tightly. And so I advise people to take your time and actually figure out how much error is acceptable in this circumstance so that you know how much of a playing field you have. And then you can experiment with whatever it is that you're doing within these parameters that you've already figured out. And that gives you some chance to be creative with your solution. And you're right, it's not, it's not open ended. You, you can't just make any old level of flub. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you can't make any error. So I think figuring out what your margin of error is within whatever particular project you're in in the moment I think is a really critical piece. And I've said to my students, I've said to my students, I said, look, there are areas in the body that we're going into and exploring to see what potentially could be changed. And you're worried that you should go in there and find a solution. And I said, first ask yourself, is anybody else even looking at this area? If no one else is even looking at this area, then you just going in there and connecting with that area is going to be a massive light bulb for this person. So, you know, maybe give yourself three sessions to actually figure out what the solution is going to be.

Yeah, okay.

Right. And that means that all you have to do is go in there and observe a lot. Just observe and take in information. Don't worry about a solution today because no one else even opened this door.

And Tom talking about opening the door, that's what we've done so far on this conversation. And I want to dig more into what it means to take the time to calculate your margin of error rate how people would interpret that in their own life, and also get you to expand on how you go about solving the complex problems, because that's applicable to every area of your life. I mean, you.

Yes, oh, absolutely.

My approach to winning that I learned from business. You wind up learning and using in every area of your life, you know, and it becomes the way you operate. And so it's not. It's. These things are so incredibly valuable because they can be applied in so many areas in your life. You know, they're not age dependent or physical ability. As long as you can think and you can talk and you can act, you can use these lessons and these systems and these methods the rest of life, wherever you want to use it, you know. So thanks so much, Kalpesh.

Yeah, my pleasure. Absolutely.

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