Episode 238: Going from the Lobby to the Penthouse with NEW $2 Million Dollar Earner Neal Gurfein

Larry Weidel talks with Neal Gurfein, who just hit $2 million in annual earnings, about building a business from scratch. Gurfein spent 26 years learning from failures and good and bad role models. The core idea: constant practice and rehearsal, thinking outside the box, and failing forward until you reach the top.
Welcome to this episode of the Million Dollar Mastermind. I'm Larry Weddell. And before we get started, if you want to know exactly how to win again and again, go to Wydell on winning.com forward/webinar now to watch something I've put together for you. Now let's get going into this episode of Million Dollar Mastermind.
All right, I am back with. And where are you, Neil? Where exactly in Los Angeles are you.
Or California are you Glendora, California, Southern California? Glendora.
Glendora. And have you always lived there?
No, I grew up in the San Fernando Valley. And we got in business for ourselves and the journey took us out a little east to Pasadena. And we kind of found a beautiful home in about 15 minutes east of Pasadena. And the metrics of our business today, especially during this pandemic dynamic, has exploded now in 52 states and just has erupted like never before. And it all started with a foundation. See, everybody, Larry wants to be in the penthouse, but they don't understand that you got to be in the lobby first. And I think the key by understanding you need to be in the lobby as metaphors here, the gold ends from the lobby is to get to that second floor and meet me or meet you, Larry. And what happens is they find out that elevator doesn't work. So now they have to actually physically take the stairs to meet us on the second floor. And that's the first win. That's the first belief level, that's the first dynamic that they get the credit because they've done the work. They become, you know, a productive person in our business. They're, they're competent, they know what to say, how to say, when to say. And it's because they met us halfway. And that's just an analogy. That's just kind of how it works. And you'll see a lot of people, like you said, you know, like lies are sugarcoated and they finally get a cavity and they get a stomachache because it's just poison because they're told that they can go straight to the, to the penthouse and there's no such thing. And when you go into a lobby and you meet on there's worthiness, every little choice is because of failing forward, you know, because what happens to you happens to everybody. It's how we respond to what happens to us that's going to help us or understand what's going on. And I think that failing forward is important. You know, we've had more failure than wins, Larry, in our 26 year journey. And we're excited about all those. Not because we had it happen to us or we had to go through it, but what came out of it. And that's where the character came. That's where the self esteem came. That's where the belief level came. That's where the abdominal spirit came. That's where the significance and the midas touch and all these things that we've had on 212 of water. It just put us in the arena arena of nothing but results, Larry. And it was all because we never quit. It's all because if it's to be, it's up to me. And we just, we realize that look, if this is the worst thing that's going to go on, it's not that bad. We've got a mindset of putting a price tag of we get through this, this is going to be worth 100 grand. When we get through this is going to be worth 300. Because the worthiness that maybe the next person wouldn't be willing to do. And I think that that really started becoming contagious and we started getting excited that it wasn't easy. We got excited that life is, is not fair. We got excited to understand that we will continue to be up, up, up in a down down world, Larry. And I really think that's a big.
P. And let's talk about the come back to the pbr because that's kind of symblomatic, I mean emblematic of the kinds of things that you did on your own that you didn't have to do, nobody told you to do. But there's something extra you could do to give yourself a sharper edge to go out and meet the world. So talk about the pdr.
Well, it just, it was just practice drone rehearse. And I think that by doing that and burning the midnight oil, we became pretty much 2% of the country because everybody want watch to watch TV. They want a social media, they, you know, they want to go do those things where weirds, wealthy and normals broke. Because what we were doing was things that didn't make sense. You know, we're learning what to say, how to say, when to say. In our industry, we're being, we became competent. Our belief level started to rise because what we were hearing, we were practicing and from practicing, we were applying and we started getting results from the practice, from applying and it just got more confident, more confident, more confident. And we emotionally believe in what we do and what we stand for in our opportunity. And because of that, it will drive you to that Next level. And it's always about that next level, Larry.
And talk about thinking outside of the box. I mean, all of this is related to thinking outside of the box and doing things that most people won't do. And one thing that was a comfort to me early on, you know, some of these concepts we're talking about, the earlier you can get them in your mind, the more you can tailor yourself and expect the different things that you would otherwise not even think reasonable. But one thing I heard that was very exhilarating was that ideas are a dime a dozen, but the people who use them are priceless. And also that good ideas don't care who use them. You can have the biggest immoral pervert in town, but using the right systems, working hard, you know, this with a good product and everything. But it beat, you know, beat you, you know, so. And you look at and say, how can that. And I used to coach our team, Neil, and say, look, don't.
Because there's.
There's always role models in any company in the industry. Sleaze bags, you know, or, you know, like, how can they.
How.
How can they, you know, be so successful? You know, like, please, God, you know, why.
How.
This is not right. You know, it's immoral, you know, and here we are, good people, and we're getting beat by these scumbags. But the thing is that I used to tell our guys, do not look at the bad things the scumbag's doing. Look at the good things. Because if he's winning or she's winning, whatever it is they're doing right, so overwhelmingly powerful that it overcomes the sleazeback side of what they're doing. And they're winning anyway. You know, winning is doing more right than you're doing wrong. You know? You know, it's the scales. And so I said, look for what they're doing right because they're doing something right, they're still winning.
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Yeah, you know, Larry, it's such a good point, because it's kind of a nicer way of cleaning that up is like, take the best, leave the rest, right? And it's like at the same time, you know, I think when you're a good example and you do all, you know, all you can do is all you can do. And you could take a horse to the water, but they got to drink it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you could create the environment. You can be the example, you have the inspiration, you have the description for all their diagnosis because you've gone through it. So proofs in the pudding of your own heartbeat. But most times people, you know, they're going to come in and just based on the wins they've had before, the opportunity in their journey and their careers, and they see an opportunity like this where they could be a business owner, where they could increase their value in the marketplace. You know, their strengths and weaknesses, Larry, are going to be exposed. And that, you know, that's the biggest benefit right there is, you know, I'm able to work on my weaknesses daily as I capitalize on my strength. And I think that when people understand that, that you don't have to be perfect. There's nobody perfect. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what makes us human beings, and that we can continue to go after it, grow and learn from genuine mistakes and take responsibility of those mistakes. I think that kind of cleans up a lot of. Lot of bad business behavior out there. And I'll say one other thing. Nothing negative lasts forever. And that part I learned as well is, you know, we worked harder than most. You know, we've done more than most. And it's just. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. This is the way the ball bounces, and it's how you kind of, you know, bounce back up when things aren't going the way you want it to go. And it's just kind of rolling with the punches. And then what you find when you start to have success is you've had more failure than success. I mean, when you're talking about off the field, like. Like, you think about, for an example, Michael Jordan would shoot 2,000, 3,000, three throws a day. You know, I'm saying for, you know, for four quarters in basketball, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Tiger woods would hit 2,000 golf balls a day. And you look at how many PGA is or how many rings Michael Jordan has, or, you know, it's those things that you do off the field that's going to give you the worthiness of the rewards that you receive on the field. And I think that that will give people a lot of value. And I think at the end of the day, you know, people want to be around positive, excited, enthusiastic people. And some people just need to learn that mistake and come full circle and take responsibility of it all and appreciate the huge wins and fruits of their labor.
Well said. I couldn't say it better. That's a fantastic insight. And you kind of kicked it off beautifully where you said, going from the lobby to the penthouse, which is what everybody wants to be.
You know, there's.
There's stages, there's steps, and nobody is born in the penthouse unless you're, you know, Barron Trump or something like that.
You know.
You.
You could be born in the penthouse, but you're not going to stay there by yourself. Get out on your own. You got to fight your way up. So thanks so much. This has been an exciting segment. Lots of good stuff. Look forward to talking again. And next time, Neil, I'd like to talk about the life, the. How the life changes and the rewards, you know, because it's not all work. And the things you learn automatically get applied to how you approach other areas of your life. And it's not just like your business grows, but you can have positive, productive things happening in other areas of your life. So let's hit that one next time.
Fair enough. Fair enough. This has been great, Larry. Thank you so much. This is fantastic. I really hope that some of the things that I share can impact and inspire people and help them.
I know you are changing lives as people. Listen to this. Neil, as always, by the way, thanks so much.
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