Episode #663 - Eavesdropping on Success with Larry Weidel

Welcome to this edition of the Million Dollar Mastermind podcast. This is where we pick the brains of high achievers from all walks of life and get their hard earned real world insights on winning. I'm your host, Larry Wydell.

Hello, listeners. Thanks for joining us. My name is Joe McGlinchey. I'm one of the producers for Million Dollar Mastermind. I'll be helping host a special edition with Larry today. Hi, Larry.

Hey, how are you doing, Joe?

All good, all good, thank you. As always, listeners, we'll delve deep into Larry's unique background and give you the chance to gain some insights on winning. Join us on the introspective journey as we explore the transformative journey that took Larry from being on food stamps to earning millions every single year. So, Larry, one of the things as a fan of podcasting is we always want to do that kind of spider bite. The moment that got you into podcasting, what was your first introduction to it?

Podcasting?

Yes.

Well, you know, I talked to so many. This is outgrowth of what I do most of the time, which is talk to people that in my business, you.

Know, my business is winning, growth, compounding, entrepreneur, that type thing. So I'm talking to the financial services.

I'm talking to people that run things.

You know, as you get over the years, you still have the same amount of time, but you have more and more successful people that you wind up spending your time talking to because hopefully.

The people you're talking to are more and more successful. And so. And then there's more and more people.

That wish they had your time and.

The time of the person you're talking.

To, and they would just love to.

Eavesdrop and all of this, I'll tell you, the spider bite moment was when.

I was coming up and I would go to conventions and manager meetings and.

At the break when we all would, you know, you're in a big hotel.

Somewhere or whatever, then you go to the restaurant where they are, but everybody.

Would look and see where the big people were. And, you know, if they couldn't get at that table, which you probably couldn't, is you wanted to get close so you could eavesdrop on what they were saying. You know, you always wanted to hear what the big guys are talking about. And usually it's nothing, but anyway, and so that was the genesis of this.

Idea of, you know, there's a lot of interest in eavesdropping. And then the other thing that, you know, I had learned along the way that the secret, if there is a secret of success or the secret that.

Leads you to all of the other secrets. I don't know if I've ever heard.

Anyone say that, but that's. That's how I would say it. The secret that leads you to the real millions of secrets that you need.

To know to be successful, because you have all kinds of different things you do.

You know, one secret is not going to work and everything. And so the big secret is spending.

Time listening to people who are already at the point you want to be.

Or they're much closer than you are.

You know, the people are already up the ladder.

They've traveled the road, They've made the experience experiments. And it's, it's the root of it.

Joe, is that trial and error is the greatest teacher.

Unfortunately, the tuition is too high.

And, you know, if you want to become a brain surgeon on trial and error, there's going to be a lot.

Of dead bodies along the way before.

You figure out what you should be doing. So if you can piggyback off of.

The trial and error of other people, now, that's the sweet spot right there.

And you can benefit from all of their experiences because people who are successful have made a ton of mistakes. And if they're telling you, here's how you do this, here's how you look at that, it's because they probably tried.

14 other ways and got their nose bloodied. And so there, you know, you're always.

Happy to talk about what you finally figured out works. And rarely do you find people that.

Want to hang on to their secrets.

You know, where you enjoy other people.

Going out there doing stupid things and all.

No, you want to save. You know, it's fun to save them.

Problems. And so usually you get straight answers, you know, but you've got to get the straight answers from people who know what they're talking about because they've tried a lot of different things. And also usually they're really good at explaining it because they've had to sort it through in their own mind. And what. What's funny about stuff is that.

Usually.

The wrong thing can appear. Well, often, let's say the wrong choice can appear to be exactly what you need to do. And it's like exactly not what you're supposed to do.

And so it's easy to fall into.

These manholes, you know, these, these holes in the road. And so if you're looking out for.

People that are coming on behind you, it's, it's. It makes you feel good.

You know, it's a good thing have.

You ever done fox hunting?

Not fox hunting. I've done deer hunting, though.

Yeah. Okay, well, fox hunting, you're on the.

Horses, you have the hounds, and you.

Always have people coming behind you. And so they have where the hole, you know, where the. How you beware. So it's like, where the hole. Where are the. You're always bewearing people, you know, of.

Dangers, you know, where are the fence?

And so that's kind of what it is when you have people asking you.

Questions about how to come up the ladder. You like to warn them and like to show them the tricks. And the good thing is it helps you remind yourself of all this stuff because it's easy to kind of stuff to fade in the background with mentors.

Like Yankees baseball legend Robert or Bullet Bog Turley. And yeah, your company's founder, Art Williams. I'm sure your, you know, your next answers to my questions will be amazing and entertaining. Who is the most impressive speaker? And like, you've listened to, you obviously mentioned conferences there. Is anybody really straight for you? You were like, wow, that guy can talk and talk for days.

Well, in my world, we all can talk and talk for days, you know.

So you have to be.

You know, like, Bob Curry was an interesting talker.

But that wasn't the main thing.

He was. He was interesting talker because he's an interesting person and he knew a lot of stuff.

You know, Art Williams is an interesting speaker because he's so incredibly motivating.

You know, he can get anybody to believe they can do anything.

And he's very motivating to listen to. You know, I don't, you know, if.

He'S talking to Congress, I promise you.

If he spoke to Congress, they'd be.

Jumping up and down and ready to.

Join the war of Iraq, Ukraine, you know, themselves.

But it's.

He's just very motivating and he's good.

At creating a bond. You know, you feel like you're a.

Part of something and you feel like he's speaking to you.

So Art's really good. But Art can be terrible too. You know, I mean, he could have.

His moments because I, I can remember.

Early on I'd bring him over to.

Speak, do some recruiting meetings for me every three weeks. And.

You knew it was going to be great. But sometimes it take him 45 minutes to warm up because he'd had a busy day. You know, he had to drive across.

Atlanta to come into the meeting, doing me a big favor.

And so it kind of. His head was full, full of things. He's worn out. But after about 45 minutes, I would.

Always sit off to the side and.

I could see whenever he went up.

On his toes, it's like a plane.

Flapping the wings, you know, ready for liftoff, you know, like here we go. But from there on it would be just mind blowing.

So, you know, great speakers come in.

All kind of packages. But the thing is, can they tell.

You how they useful?

And so over the years I found.

That it's almost impossible for me to.

Listen to anybody speak unless they're funny. And if they're funny, okay, I'll listen. But other than that, I've just heard so many great speakers all my life.

And.

I haven't really thought about who.

Is the greatest speaker.

But it's guys like that, it's people have something to say and there's people.

Who can speak to you, you know, and they're not worried about themselves.

You know, a certain style of proven winners.

Yeah, right.

And then in your normal day to day life food you'd be listening to most as your goatee, you know, concierge.

There's a thing that happens where I'm talking to my staff and colleagues is much you learn.

You're probably this point. Yeah. After a certain point you've got the.

Fundamentals, you've heard everything 400 different ways. And so most of the things that I learn on a daily basis is from my own staff or colleagues where we're working on projects and we got problems to solve.

And so you're in a situation, it's like you, you throw your best energy at it.

Come up most of the time you.

Come up with great solutions and everything.

But when you get stuck hearing that.

Other voice of people that are like minded, educated in what you're doing, understand the project.

I mean, you don't, you can get great ideas from anybody.

And so in fact, it's kind of amazing. In fact, when we were building the financial services organization, you have so many decisions to make.

So a rapid fire all day long. It gets exhausting to come up with all these things. And so I reached the point because.

I always found out they would make.

The team would push a program or an idea much harder if it was their idea rather than yours.

You know, if you're Moses come down.

From the mountain, you know, the manager.

Is really in for a lot of trouble who thinks that Moses come down.

From the mountain, solve every problem.

Here's what we're going to do.

You know, it's like, well that's great.

But if you can get the team involved in coming up with a solution. Even if it's not as great a.

Plan, they'll probably get better results because they feel ownership of it, you know. So I reached the point where I would just go with.

I said, okay, from now on it's.

My job to spot the problems and.

Tell you guys about the problems. And you're wanting to advance and one day get up in my position anyway. So you need to be thinking like this. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to tell you what I see coming. And if we don't make an adjustment.

Or a change or an improvement, we're.

Going to stall out.

We need to do something. I don't know what it is we're.

Do you guys think. And usually you come up is. And I. It almost would always say the dumbest guy in the room could come up with the best idea. So it doesn't matter really where the ideas come from.

It matters that, that you're getting them. And so at this stage, I learned so much from the people around me or, you know, in, and especially if I'm getting coaching in outside areas, you get a recreational type things or professional things. You know, I'm into photography, I'm into painting, I'm into recreation and skiing.

I used to be cycling until I had that accident. But I still have all the ski.

Coaches are my buddies.

And so just talking to those people that do coaching all the time and.

They'Re competing is where I get a.

Lot of ideas and a lot of.

Things keeps you, you know, keep you on the road. But you gotta, if you're gonna say stay sharp and keep getting sharper, you gotta be trying to do stuff. I mean, you got to have goals.

And you got to have big goals and stuff that's bigger than you really know how to do. Because if you know how to do.

It easy, it's gonna be boring for you.

And so it's like, that's why people.

Climb bigger mountains, you know, so they can learn new things, see different things, push themselves, develop, and it's a great thing.

It's not a bad thing.

Normal people think you're a lunatic and you're selfish and you know you're wrong. You should be satisfied. Satisfied. Well, you should be satisfied, but that.

Doesn'T mean you shouldn't be pushing it.

Forward because you using what you've got.

To do bigger and better things, why.

Not do something greater? You know, that's where all the things.

We have that we enjoy in Life came from somebody who says, why couldn't that be better?

You know, somebody didn't want to cook in the heat in the summer, came up with air conditioning and, you know.

Wanted something better, thank goodness.

And, and so.

It'S great because when.

You solve these problems, usually you come.

Up with solutions and it benefits a.

Whole bunch of people far beyond what.

You were thinking the impact would be.

Larry, I think a lot of people talk about having coaches and mentors during your form of your life. Do you feel it's important to have one throughout, even towards your latter years.

Like.

Grab as much as possible early.

On and use it?

Yeah, if you're trying to do something new and you're trying to do something different that you don't have, especially if.

You don't have the fundamentals as much and all.

But I tell you what you do.

Is as you're successful, you develop colleagues around you, you know, put teams together.

People who know how to do things at elite level.

And none of us know everything.

But you find that you need coaching, you need input, you need other eyes and ears. But it doesn't have to be a professional.

You know, the thing I'm not, I haven't seen personally the.

Benefit, success or.

Whatever of a life coach, because a life coach, what have they done?

You know, if I get a life.

Coach, you know, I want somebody to.

Give me coaching on getting a particular thing done, you know, and they've got.

A particular mountain of experience, you know.

Years, 30 years of working on such and so, and so they know where all the people are, where, you know, the publications are, where the retail outlets that sell the equipment. You need the best places in the world, usually anything where you're dealing the.

Best in the world. There's just a few places where, where.

You can get the best of the.

Best of the best, you know, but.

Like shooting, you know, we go to wing shooting.

I've done wing shooting over pheasant in Scotland, England, Ireland, and we go over.

We always go over there to the.

Holland and Holland store and you know, the few stores in there to wear Purdy's in London.

And I'll visit all the stores, get all of our equipment and then we go.

Because those stores aren't everywhere especially they have a selection, you know, so maybe now online and online is great, but it's. It's better when you go see it in person, you know, pick it up. But yeah, it's.

It's hard to find at a high level if you're just starting out, you know, any Old life coach will probably do.

You know, it's just like kindergarten. You know, any teacher in the school can teach you basic math probably, or any, you know, you know, spelling or something like that. But when you get more advanced, you.

Want people that have been there and.

Done things and it, the more input keeps you sharper. And it's the one comforting thing is there's nothing new under the sun.

So probably whatever you're struggling with, somebody's.

Figured it out and they're out there, but you got to go look for.

Them or find them on the Internet.

Or YouTube or somewhere. But I don't think in terms of.

I do think you need coaching, I think you need input. And I think if you're for the.

Point of stretching, it's just like why a bodybuilder is got to lift heavier and heavier weights if they're going to stretch their muscles and get bigger, develop.

And if you're going to be a.

Runner, you have to run longer distances if you're going to develop your endurance. And you know, that's why they're Tour de France cyclists cycle during the offseason.

That's why they also go on the day off. You know, they 176 kilometers straight uphill, like two or three days in a row and then they have a day off. What do they do? They go a 45 mile run, you.

Know, ride, roll out.

Yeah, and just to keep the, you know, fluid circulating.

So if you're going to grow, you.

Got to stretch yourself.

And that's true mentally and you know.

It could be reading books, could be.

Listening to tapes, could be friends.

But you know, you're going to get.

A lot of coaching from just reading. And so, yeah, definitely. Otherwise, you know what, you go stale. You grow in every area of your life. And dying is gradual process. You know, you go, you start to kind of lose momentum, lose the thrill, lose the enthusiasm and then you start going, you know, and so the way you counter out at that is you have bigger fun things to go after, you know, something you haven't done before. And that takes a little effort, but.

It adds so much to your life.

You're you, it's your fault if you go into an just survival or existence mode.

Now you've had, you know, recovering from.

Surgery or your business went bankrupt and you had no, you know, it's just.

Either your fault or someone else fault. You've got to recover from that, get.

Back in your feet. Sure, you're in survival mode, but you can't stay in survival mode.

You got to fight your way back.

Up the ladder and go after great things or you're going to be a dud. I don't care if you're not going after something great, you're going to be a darn dud.

And you're not going to be any.

Fun to be around.

You're not going to be fun to.

Be around for yourself, you know, and so it's, you know, you're interesting, you're.

An interesting person if you've got an.

Interesting life and if you're trying to do it, you know, you've done interesting things and you're in the process of doing interesting things.

What's, what do you got to look.

Forward to next year after that? And so that's where I think is.

That'S how I think as far as.

Coaching input and whatever.

You need more input if you're going to keep doing new things, bigger things.

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Notes.

As one of our pretty producers obviously the podcast Larry, I get to see a lot of behind the scenes stuff like for example, discovering a lot of our listeners are around 35 to 45 marks. Similar to myself. I'm a self stated fan of the podcast obviously as well. So they're probably at that critical point in their lives where it's really about the growth. Where are they going next? Are they going to become a leader in their current company, Start off on a journey of their own through an entrepreneurial group or whatever they so choose to do. Do you have any advice specifically for those younger professionals, especially bearing in mind a lot of them usually are trying to balance enjoying a good life at the same time as having a family all combined together.

Well, every situation is different, but what.

I would say is maximize where you are. As soon as you reach the top of where you are.

New doors can open. It doesn't mean you leave your company.

But new doors can open and Then maybe you'll start your own company.

But you got to maximize it. And when I say maximize, I don't.

Know what that means, but take advantage.

Of every possibility, every contact, every question you can ask, everything. You can learn every new skill if they need volunteers for things.

And you can get it in your.

Schedule, you know, kind of fill up. Fill up your life with things you haven't done before. Meeting new people, going new places.

I would say get options on the table.

That's what I would say at. As I was coming up, because that's what I, you know, I did.

I was like. And I followed my natural curiosity, Joe. You know, that's.

Almost become a cliche.

With me now because I say it's so much, but it's like, follow the darn bread crumbs, you know?

And I could give you long stories about that.

It's like if something's out there and you want to, hmm, what's that all about? Go check it out, you know, Go.

Check it out and find out what.

It'S all about and then see like, well, if that's true. I wonder if this is true. I want to go check that out.

But what you find is a lot of time.

Finding the great job, the great opportunity.

Where you're supposed to be is like.

A treasure hunt almost.

But there'll be like four or five.

Six or seven stages along the way. One thing leads to another, and I.

Kind of think that's like an elimination process to see how serious you are.

About doing something, to see if you will follow up. But if you're going to be an entrepreneur, let me just talk to you.

You're going to be a different person, okay?

Listen to me. You're going to be different.

Because most of these dumb asses will not do anything. They will not pick. I mean, you can have a million.

Dollars rolled up into a cigar.

All they got to do is pick that up and stick it in a bot. Now they're a millionaire, they're too lazy to pick it up. You know what I'm saying? It's just like you say.

If they say, joe, I got a thing, it works magic. But if you will drink one glass of water Every Monday at 10am Your life will change.

I can't tell you how, I can't tell you why.

But I'll promise you, you drink glass of water 10am Every Monday, you say.

And if you see other people doing.

It and it's working for them, still won't do it.

It's just people will not do I mean, you can have.

I mean, it was a guy in North Carolina at the camera shop.

I bought stuff up and he's in there.

He had a, you know, his wrist he wrapped up and there's something arm with her.

And I said, what the crap under.

You Energy, whatever, you know. And I said, well, you know, down about three, four blocks from here is a guy's a miracle worker with injuries.

On things like that. I go see him all the time.

And it's, you know, he's rolling.

And I said, you know, these guys.

Work differently with undoing knots in your body and tendons and get you loosen up.

And, you know, right now I wouldn't.

Be doing anything I'm doing without the.

Last 20 years of ralphing. So anyway, I said, you know, he's.

Down on the street over here. And he said, oh, yeah.

He said, I've seen his car. He's got a. He's got a tag that says Louis. And I always wondered what that was. I said, that's him.

That's his house.

He said, I try buy that every day.

And I said, well, stop in.

Give him a call.

Here's his number, and let him at least look at it. See if I can never do.

And he drives by every darn day. And I can tell you story after story, and you can tell them to me too.

But if you're going to be Mr. Future entrepreneur superstar, do something great in.

Your life, you're a different person. You're the kind of person that does stuff, and when you see something that allow you to get ahead, you do it. You make the effort to meet.

That's so and so that person can help you.

You find a way to meet them. You find a way to get in. You find a way.

You figure it out, you know, you.

Figure out things so you can do things. But anyway, that's what I.

That's some of what I would say if you.

You're working around me. But that's why people. And I'll tell you this in all honesty, it's just me.

But I've had to work.

I've had to dig all this stuff.

Out of the earth.

And so when people talk to me about how you do this, how you.

Do that, I just tell them what worked for me.

And it's amazing how many people around me, I mean, they're like, just by being around without even thinking about it, because they kind of soak it all up. And so when you get in these.

Winning patterns and you stay on the.

Attack, man, good things can happen.

But the main thing is you follow.

Up in all these things so you can improve every area of your life. You know, you can improve, get better. Because you say, if I'm going to be making three, four, five times the money, I've got to be three or four or five times better. It might take a little bit more out of me. I get this.

I got to be better at scheduling. I got to be better with people.

I can't get as mad about this, that and the other. You know, I've got to learn, you know, I've got to get better and I've got to develop my skill sets and. And so stay on the, you know, stay on the attack like that. But like, just in the obvious things, if you're not going to get.

Take advantage of the obvious things, this.

Stuff that's right behind the obvious things.

Will never appear to you, you know.

And that's why you follow the breadcrumbs.

So you can see what's next, you know, that's useful.

Not too much time spent thinking what if or what's coming next, or should I choose a different path? Staying, just staying true to purpose.

Right.

So obviously, Larry, something I obviously like to do when I'm talking to people is obviously get to know them. Helps a wee bit. On your website, I was having. Really nosy. I discovered, obviously you spent some of your formative years traveling the world with your parents. This led you to Tuscany where you fell in love with art. Do you think that type of life led to any. To any other aspects of your life that have been really influential or helped you really with what your passions are today?

I think for me, yes. But I will say that, you know.

Not every dependent military dependent has that impact.

I just, with my personality and how.

I was set up, you know, my.

Brother, you know, he's. I don't. Or my sister. I don't think it had that kind of impact on them. I know a lot of people. I know a few people from that era that I knew over in Italy.

And whatever, and they, you know, they did pretty well and everything. But what it. I don't think it necessarily impacts you the same way. I think it's incredibly positive for kids to get those kind of exposures, to get past provincialism where they don't think where. You know, I went. We went looking at leaves many years ago up in Vermont and stopped in this little store and I was talking.

To the girl behind there and I.

Said, well, where is this town, Wilford? And she said, oh, it's five miles down there. And I said, is it worth going.

To is, you know, they're pretty scenery down there.

She goes, I don't know, I've never been. And she'd grown up in this town.

Five miles from Wilford, there's only one road, you know, in Vermont there's not.

A lot of roads crisscrossing and going in this way.

You know, you go north and south and occasionally got an east and west.

Road, but not a lot of places.

She could have gone if she got out of town.

She never made it five miles south down to Wilford. And so that's the way people are.

They just never go anywhere or do anything.

So you cannot have a real well rounded view.

Plus you can't believe what's possible. I guess the great thing about getting.

Exposed to things like that is to see what is possible, see how people do live, people do these things.

You know, my attitudes are not the.

Only way to look at situations.

And so it does make you more flexible, makes you more open. And for me, I think it was.

You know, mind blowing, the experiences that.

Happened because I was in that situation and so.

But not for everybody, you know, not for everybody.

It's not going to be automatic, have.

That kind of impact, but it's, it's, it.

The thing is, at least you have.

The chance for it to have an impact if you're there. And so anyway, I think it. Absolutely, yeah.

And it can impact in other ways. Maybe personally rather than professionally sometimes as well. If it, you know, for me personally, as listeners can hear, I'm Irish, like many Irish people, I've lived abroad, you know, follow that. What would you call it, the path where you're just going, seeking things almost. And that didn't necessarily shape my professional life, but it certainly affected me as like a father and in a personal capacity. Do you feel like that's kind of helped you and your kind of. Obviously your father, yourself as well, Larry, has that helped make you who you are as far as a professional under father, or is it a bit of difference?

Yeah, absolutely. Because again, with possibilities and options, you don't automatically limit yourself to. I'm always going to be here, I'm.

Always going to do this. You're aware of all the multitude of options that are out there.

And when you start thinking about where.

You want to live, you start, you.

Know, sky's the limit.

You know, you live anywhere, it's just.

A matter of, you know, relocate there.

Make the contacts and whatever.

And it's just like what will get.

You excited because when you have limited exposures, you don't, you know, it's like.

Well, I got to get myself excited.

About milking the cows, you know, this, you know, I'm always going to live on this farm, you know, and, and so, you know, the big town is 100 miles away. And so, you know, and go down the seven like my grandfather down in.

South Georgia, you know, there they had.

One little, little store five miles down the road that was.

You go in there and get a.

Candy bar and a Coke and he'd go get cigarettes.

But you know, beyond that it was like, oh, you had to go, you.

Know, go 30 miles, you know.

And so there weren't a lot of.

Options if you want to switch things.

Up in your life.

But when you've had those exposures, I.

Think makes all the difference in the.

World for yourself and make your choices. But also when you, you're talking and.

Where you visualize what's possible for your children, you know, you, you're not limited.

In what your capacity for imagining what they would, could do, you know, they really wanted to do.

And so you're more likely to encourage.

Them to step out or to do.

Something that may sound crazy to someone.

Who hasn't had those exposures.

So the Irish do, like the Australians.

And the New Zealand kids do they take a year or two and just travel the world and see what the.

World is all about and then go.

Back home and settle into a groove. I didn't know the Irish did that.

Yeah, I follow the traditional path, I suppose.

Yeah. And then, you know, now, you know.

I've got a six year old son now currently trying to throw him into sports and follow that kind of similar tradition as well. Did you throw your kids into sports to try and feel their ambition or drive or you try any of those things?

I think that they did it, but.

When I did it there wasn't a.

Lot else to do because we were, when I was growing up, most of the time I was in Europe, you know, and there was not that much for the American kids to do other than sports after school. You know, we didn't have bands and things like that. So you know, we, that was the.

Only thing really to do if you're.

Going to do something. And so I was always in one sport or another. Now with them they have more options.

And so my kids grew up. Eventually they got into riding horses and other things. But they tried, you know, when they.

Were young, like, you know, like your son, like 6, 7, 8, 9 years old, they Played football and those things.

But, you know, it wasn't for them.

Long term and they got interested in other things, but they were always doing something.

And I think that's what you can do with your kids is you expose.

Them to it and let them, you see what they gravitate to, see what.

They, you know, it's like, hey, you.

Know, or you're dragging them along, you know, that's never going to work. So who knows, you know, if, if.

You'Re not going to accept that God does it.

Who is it that puts these desires inside of people? Like, one guy wants to be a cyclist.

You know, you listen to the Tour de France cyclists and they'll, you know.

They'Ll have the personal profile and you'll have the guys say, you know, once.

I saw a bike, you know, that's all I ever wanted to do in my life.

You know, I just want to be on a bike and this and the other. Well, I've been on the bikes and.

I was on it enough to where.

I had a massive 15 year accident that I'm still recovering from.

And I would ride mountains with coaches.

And, you know, guys out in Aspen.

And ride up and down the highway, the ocean here on the east coast in Palm beach, going down to Boca and Miami and places like that. You know, I've done all that cycling, but you know what, it was never that big of a deal for me. It's like I also have done, you.

Know, I got 140 hours in planes.

You know, learning how to, you know, fly and I got to where I could solo and all. But you know, some people, like, oh Lord, just to be up in the air.

I feel free as a bird, eh.

You know, I, I never felt any of that like on a site, you know, cycling. The main thing I liked about it.

Is you could, you could get a.

Good workout and you didn't have to run.

You know, that's. But it was a lot, it was very dangerous, unfortunately. And sooner or later you're going to.

Come to something suddenly, violently, unexpectedly smash you. And so that's, that's the future for every writer. And if you say, oh, that was just a one time thing happened, you know, 15 years ago, one time.

Take no, the Tour de France riders are covered head to toe with vicious scars.

They've got broken everything, you know, and so no, the road for a cyclist is to be on the, you know, sooner or later you're going to be.

On the ground because it's just, you.

Know, it's that kind of Activity, but you got to love it enough to where you can overcome that. The one thing that I really love.

Was horses and riding show jumpers over.

Fences and competing like that.

That that was worth all the broken.

Bones and being, you know, broken L5.

And kicked in the head and, you.

Know, hematomas and broken clavicles and everything like that. It's like, who cares?

You know, but unfortunately, it's just so stifling to keep doing, you know, you got to put so much time and.

Energy and after a while it's like.

I just wanted to do other things too in my life too, so I.

Had to give it up. I still.

If I had two lives, one of.

Them would be riding horses even at.

This stage of my life, you know.

And so, but most people, you know, it's.

It's what you're going to respond to.

Now, why would I like riding? And then why you would like, are riding horses or other somebody else, like riding motorcycles? To me, you got to be insane.

To like, ride, like ride motorcycles. First of all, the danger aspect.

The other thing is there's a such a thing called bugs. You get all these bugs in your face. You know, it's just like, no, thank.

You, you know, in weather.

And so, you know, put me inside of a car, you know, if I want to feel the wind in my face, I'd get a convertible. But. But, you know, other people are just as passionate about the motorcycles, you know, and the other thing is cigars. You know, you got Michael Jordan and.

You got Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, it's like, what are these idiots doing to their loans?

You know, and. But they love it, you know, like, why do some people love this? Some people love cats, some people love dogs. You know, it's just like everybody's, you know, you know, why you're entitled to pursue what you're interested in because you can't do anything about it. And it's not your fault.

It was put in you. You know, these things were put in us.

And so, you know, you sit there and be miserable and deny it, or.

You can pursue it, but we're all.

We've all got places in life we.

Are supposed to be sent to, but.

We'Re supposed to do well there too.

You know, and.

So with our kids, you can try and crowbar them into this or that or the other, but good luck, if it's something they don't.

Want to do, you know, eventually they're going to come out of it.

And so that's what I. I would say about those kind of exposures.

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