Fades, Pre Drinks & Chats w/ Mike Thurston & Rob Lipsett

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What's going on guys? Welcome to today's video. I am in Casa del Thurston, okay? Mike Thurston's house, if you didn't get that. And it's the evening, we are about to host a party here and then go out. So we decided to film kind of like a get ready with me. Like, I know a lot of makeup vloggers do that, so we're gonna put our own kind of boyish lad version on it. And yeah, have a bit of crack when doing it and then show you our outfits just before we go out. So we're just about to get some fresh fades here.

Man's Franklin here.

What's up? Yeah, and then we're gonna get ready and go out, maybe have a few drinks or something. So maybe. So anyways, give the video a thumbs up and let's get into it.

What the hell is this?

What are we drinking? BCAAs, caffeinated BCAAs and vodka. So that's what fitness channel we're on right now. This is sensible anabolic drinking. All right, so Louis is going to ask us some questions and yeah, welcome to Fades and Shouts and Drinks.

There's gonna be hairs going in my drink.

Told it to look cool.

Okay, so someone says, would you recommend taking a scoop of pump before stepping on stage?

Yeah, personally I did. And like, I like to replicate like a post-workout pump as much as possible before I step on stage. Done 2 competitions in the past, and like, some people get a lot— look a lot different with a pump. Like, personally, don't I look very different with a pump? Yeah. Whereas like, you don't look as different, you kind of look consistent. Yeah, but yeah, I still think I look Everyone looks better with a pump, but some people look majorly different. So yeah, I take some pre-workout, some pump beforehand, and do so much push-ups, curls, bands, and right before I step on stage.

What about you, Mike? Did you take a pump product?

Fast-releasing carbs, so anything sugary that's not going to bloat you. The pump can work as long as it's not too strong of a pre-workout that it sends you west, because a certain someone had too much of it the other day. And came out in a horrendous rash and his face went like all red and like puffy. So guilty. Yeah, just make sure the pre-workout isn't too crazy.

Yeah, Ghost, this plug, Ghost make a non-stimulant pre-workout. So yeah, nice discount code, link in the bio.

What is your favorite kind of cardio?

Um, recently actually it's been boxing. Um, I did, you know, me and Louie filmed that training like KSI video the other day and like it actually was so much fun, really enjoyed it. And then I've just been doing some boxing training just with myself and even with the trainers in Raw and then the Maldives as well, and I've been really enjoying that. So any type of cardio that's kind of interesting. Another one would be like hikes. Again, that's interesting, you know, it's nice and like it's not boring. So anything that can kind of hold my attention is my favorite type of cardio.

I'd probably say hill sprints. Uh, something about sprinting which I like, um, and the risk of injury is a little bit lower if you like sprinting up a hill. But I haven't really been doing much of that recently. The majority of the cardio I've been doing is just walking to the gym. Yeah, that's— it's not fun, but you burn calories doing it. I probably walk about 45 minutes a day in total, walking to the gym and back.

Yeah, we did— we tracked our steps yesterday in the burger video on Mike's channel. 22,000 steps just walking around London.

Do you think fitness can often lead to unhealthy relationship with food?

Yes, absolutely. Especially when people get like too into it. The gym can even lead to an unhealthy ratio of training. Thing. Like, people will beat themselves up if they miss a day in the gym and freak out. Same with their diet— they slip up on their diet a little bit, they have some alcohol, and they freak out. This is more so in beginners though. Like, when you've been training a couple years, you realize it's all about the bigger picture and you don't take these little slip-ups as seriously. So yeah, it definitely can, but it's kind of like, you know, as you— the longer you train and the longer you're into fitness, the less serious it gets.

Yeah, I find that you develop the bad relationship food when you're too restrictive. Yeah, the times— there's only been a handful of times where it's happened to me, and they've been prepping for a competition, you know, when I've really had to restrict my calories to get to the extremely low levels of body fat. I think a lot of people, when they just start getting into a good routine, they feel as though they have to restrict themselves and, you know, not have anything which they enjoy having. Yeah, you can still have the things you like to have, but just make sure you're not over-consuming Overconsumption is the problem which most people have and why they get fat in the first place.

I wonder if we're allowed to say fat in 2019 now. Overweight.

Does living in Ireland act as an advantage to opportunities that you are given?

Yeah, so definitely it did at the beginning of my fitness career in the sense that like there was no one else in Ireland doing it and it kind of helped me, you know, stand out a little bit more. Like, oh look, this guy from Ireland making videos. But now it's gotten to the point where like, you know, I've made my name there and I've no one to collaborate with and now I've really got to travel to meet people that do the same thing as I do. For example, why I'm here in London this weekend, why I'm in Texas the whole time, LA. So, you know, it was great at the beginning, but now I find myself having to travel a lot to make content and meet people that do the same thing as me. So, yeah.

I can't really answer that one, but yeah, living in London is great. Mmm.

We'll see how the next coming month goes then.

Um, this is a good one. It's obviously someone from America. Are both of y'all close to, if not at, your genetic potential? So basically what he's saying, like, do you think like you are at your peak like genetically, or are you far away from it?

I think it depends on like your lifestyle, my lifestyle at the time. So if I'm traveling, I'm going out, I'm not preparing my meals, I'm eating out at restaurants, my training's kind of hit and miss, not as intense as usual, and there's a pretty much useless fitness guy. A few nights out, lack of sleep, lots of alcohol, then yeah, obviously I'm not going to look that great. And this year there's been a lot of traveling, so I feel as though I've not kind of peaked to what I could look, you know, my very best. I feel like if I wanted to look my very, very best, I would have to live like a monk-like existence where my sleep is fully regimented, at least 8 hours a night, my training's on point, or I even have a coach absolutely beasting me to the max. My nutrition, everything is prepped, no alcohol.

So yeah, yeah, it's kind of like my genetic potential, it's at its limit in terms of what I'm willing to do. Like, you know, I don't want to give up traveling, eating nice food, and, you know, having a good time with my friends to just live like a complete hermit in the gym. So it probably is at its max for what I'm willing to give up in my lifestyle. So yeah, pretty much. And as you can see with me and you, like, our physiques have been pretty consistent for the last couple of years.

Um, so yeah, probably, I'd probably say after 8, 10 years of training, if you have been training hard and consistently, like, not much really changes after that unless you were doing something horrendously wrong in the first place.

Yeah, the first 3 years is when you're going to see the most progress by far.

Do you think Mike is on gear, Rob?

Yeah, okay, so we had a funny chat about this earlier on in the gym. Me and Max got Mike so fucked up in Miami, and we're like, come on, Mike, tell us, are you natural? I truly believe he is. I actually think he is. And like what the last question is, your physique hasn't changed drastically over, like, even last— you did your transformation. Yeah. And it's just been consistent, whereas you see some guys on YouTube and it's like their strength or their physique blows up out of nowhere, and it's like your training didn't change, your diet didn't change, you know, it's like what changed? So I think a great way to tell if someone is, you know, natural— people are starting to be more honest now as well— but a way to spot it is if someone just blows up out of nowhere, it's like what's been, what's been the cause, you know?

Or outrageous proportions. Yeah, yeah, massive shoulders.

You can tell by the look as well, like, you know, bad skin and stuff like that. But yeah, I do think Mike's natural. He's just got sick genetics.

Cheers, Rob.

He paid me to say that.

Rob, when are you thinking of competing? Mike, will you ever compete again?

Yeah, so I want to do prep, start prep around mid-Febr— you know, February, March, April, May, and then end of May compete at like BodyPower. I think that'd be sick because like BodyPower, like you've been BodyPower with me, that's where my people are, like the It's always the best expo for me. So if I like competed in that and then like just met everyone, like, oh my God, that'd be the best weekend of my life. And again, I don't care about like winning or losing. Well, of course I'm going to compete to win, but I'll be doing it more so for the content, for the experience, and just to get up on stage. So yeah, I definitely want to compete this year.

Yeah, so yeah, I'd want to do it one more time. Yeah, but it's just finding a time when I can pretty much block off 3 months. Yeah, with like no traveling, just keeping my head down and doing my thing. Because I think realistically it's not that I have to put on size, it's just getting as diced as I can whilst maintaining that size.

Yeah.

And you do have to be very regimented with it. Like, it's— you really do have a reason to look your very best when you're stepping on stage. Yeah. Like, when— for being, being in shape for sake of being in shape for Instagram is like, yeah, but you don't make Yeah, you can get a good day, like, you know, you wake up fasted, take a pic in the good lighting, but it's like when you're on stage, you know, you, you, you don't look bad.

You don't look bad. The competition date is on that date. You can't be like, I'll just shoot tomorrow, you know, it's like that's the day.

So yeah, it's actually, it's actually interesting, probably money-wise in terms of like actually selling plans and being in shape on Instagram rather than what you would benefit from of winning the competition.

Oh yeah, yeah, I was like, why don't you compete? And I'm like, well, you know, you're not really getting paid to do it. Yeah. Put a lot of time and effort into competing. Yeah, you step up on stage and it's like you have to pay. You don't necessarily get a huge amount out of it in terms of like exposure or money. You're kind of just doing it for yourself.

Yeah, I, I think the way to make, you know, exposure, money out of it is to do a really informative and, you know, valuable series like what Christian does, you know, document the process. Yeah, that's what I— that's why I'd be doing it.

So to each of you, what is your purpose in life?

I've always been saying the same thing since I started doing YouTube, and it's like to help other people, provide value, as that's what I buzz off, you know, that's what like gives me that warm tingly feeling inside. Like when someone says, hey, I transformed my life because of this video, or, you know, you're just spreading positivity, makes my day better. Like that, that's the shit, you know, that, that really does feel amazing. Like today, someone even on the street stopped me and Mike for a photo. And like, afterwards we were both just like, whoa, like, we're like, what the hell? Like, it's just like, what is this life? It's definitely, you know, provide value to other people's life and, you know, putting out good vibes. That's definitely my purpose.

I would say help inspire others and almost like just encourage them to go out there and live their best life, really.

Yeah, yeah. And it's not just about like fitness. Like, I want to give people like the confidence and the balls to go out there and be like, yeah, fuck it. Fuck it, like, this is what I want to do, you know, this is what I want to work out.

Fitness that we're doing, it's also like making a career for yourself and being more confident and just, you know, being able to chat to other people. Yeah, whatever it might be.

Yeah, so that's it. And so you provide the good vibes, you provide like good time, like you pump people up, it's going to come back to you. It's like, I don't know if you believe in karma or not, but whether or not you do, it's like it's going to come back your way. Like, you know, if you put good out there, you'll get good back. That's just like common sense.

Just how chesty is chesty?

I'm gonna say double E chesty. His chest is bigger than most females. So yeah, that's how chesty.

I'd love to make it as chesty as I possibly could, like train chest 3 times a week, but no, you'd look like Larry the Lobster out of SpongeBob SquarePants.

Everyone's asking how much does it cost to get your haircut in London? Oh, for the guy, for for Franklin to come to your house?

Why don't you tell him, Franklin? Is he doing us a good deal?

There's like 3 or 4 people that have asked that question.

He's just here for the Q&A. Yeah, he's getting it.

Charging substantially more if he comes to your house. Yeah, yeah, still didn't answer the question.

Yeah, DM Franklin.

Yeah, yeah, we'll put his link in.

Yeah.

Would you rather have huge arms and skinny legs or huge legs and skinny arms? I think that's a silly question.

Let's be honest, huge arms.

Huge arms.

Just wear a pair of fucking jeans. And hit the club. You have to go to the beach with the longest pair of shorts ever. It's so funny, it's like, would you rather have huge arms? Like, mate, that's my reality.

But if you looked at a person though, like, what actually looks more stupid? Massive arms with small legs or massive legs with small arms? Yeah, surely the massive legs with small arms would look more stupid.

Yeah, it actually would look worse though. You look upside down or something.

Like, it wouldn't make any sense. I'm gonna be like What? A bit more feminine.

Yeah, yeah, you look like an Insta chick.

At least like the other way around.

You look like an Insta chick. So yeah, big arms, like, and I don't know who says otherwise is lying.

What are both of your one rep max PRs for squat, bench, and deadlift?

I actually don't know.

Yeah, we don't— I don't really do it anymore. The heaviest I've ever squatted was like 180 kilograms. Yeah, I didn't feel very nice. Yeah, bench Probably say 150 for one. That's on a very good day. Yeah. And then deadlift, I think it was like 220, 230.

Yeah, I remember 160 kg for squat like years ago. I hope it's gone up now. Uh, bench would be like 135 kg. I remember I was just off hitting 3 plates. You could probably get it like if I wanted to, if I trained for it and, you know, sacrifice a bit of leanness. Deadlift, not too sure. But yeah, I really got to test them again. Haven't tested them in so long, but like, it's just not our style of training. And like, that's fine, you know, whatever you're into.

Yeah, you don't really get much out of it.

Yeah, yeah, like, I've remained injury-free. That was the top comment on my last video, is tips for remaining injury-free. And what I replied was, you know, don't ego lift, train smart. And you know, if you're constantly maxing out, you're constantly testing your one rep max, there's a higher chance that things go wrong.

You don't actually get stronger from doing one rep max.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's right. It actually messes up your recovery. So I know I'm gonna test them, um, in the next couple of months, but, um, yeah, they're like the last numbers I can think of.

Plus, anyone that asks how much you can bench is a complete douche.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, as if they like judge you based on that, like they judge your character based on your bench size.

I like you more now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, changed my view on you. Your bench press is higher than I thought it was.

Should I sacrifice a little form in order to move a heavier weight for progressive overload?

Yeah, assuming that your form is already quite good. Yeah, like if your form then goes so bad just to lift a little bit more, then I'd say, well, you're probably moving the tension away to other muscle groups, risk of injuries higher. It's just like, well, yeah, you are technically in a way getting stronger because you can move more weight, but then you're kind of sacrificing— well, you probably won't be building much more muscle. It's like you got to choose, do you want to get stronger or do you want to get bigger?

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say again, as long as you're not completely messing up your form, like, fuck it, it's all right if you can show a little bit of progression, you know, and get aggressive with the weights. Like, I think I put up on my story, I was like going for a squat PR with reps, and someone like replied being like, my form was just a tiny bit off, okay? And someone replied being like, oh, you know, you're You're gonna break your back doing this. I'm fine, man. I was just getting into it, you know. So it's like, you know, it's like I'm here, I live to tell the tale. So sometimes if you're getting aggressive, you're pumped up, and you want to hit those numbers, do that. And then the next week, you know, you're hitting the same weight but your form's gotten better. That's a form of progression in itself, is tightening up your form over time. So as long as your form isn't causing you risk of injury, then it's alright if it's not 100% perfect the whole time. So yeah, I'm gonna say yeah.

All right, what we're gonna do to change it up is we're gonna spin for Rob being in the suit.

I work hard for what I got, now I'm standing at the top. Used to dream about that Bentley, now I pull it off the lot. They didn't want to see me when they met. I made it off the block, the whole city know I'm hot. I'm the shit and they can't stop it. This money bring a whole lot of hoes. It's suicidal every time I lift my toes. I couldn't imagine doing this shit when I was—

What's up everyone, welcome back to the second half of Q&A. This is So I'm in the hot seat. So Louis, hit us with some more questions as we progressively get fresher. As you can see, Mike is looking too good. I need to get on his level.

Such a tight fade.

Yeah, respect.

If you had— if you're gonna work out with 3 other people, who would they be?

Okay, The Rock, first of all, definitely. Mark Wahlberg, just because like that would complete the full pain and gain duo. And David Goggins. Yeah, there's actually— I saw a video on it, it's called like 'What It's Like to Train with David Goggins,' and it's meant to— he's meant to be the real deal. So yeah, they're my train. What about you?

What about you, Mike?

God, that's a good question.

Yeah, I'd definitely say the Rock.

Yeah, he's just the ultimate man.

I feel like I've always wanted Tom Platz to take me through a leg session.

Yeah, you'd have to murder me. You'd have to be like mentally ready for that, like that would be insane. Insanity.

I would have said Jordan Yates, but I've done that. One more, one more. I don't know who the third person is.

Me.

Yeah.

Do Mike's chesty coughs last twice as long?

Yes, he actually has to get prescription Benadryl and codeine to just get rid of it. A light cough, that's how chesty his coughs are. He needs to get prescription cough syrup.

How much of a calorie surplus is good when bulking? But keeping some sort of definition?

200, 250, I'd say.

Wow.

But it's, it's, it's dependent upon the individual. Like, I think I always just tell people, look, if you're trying to grow and bulk, aim to sort of gain around 0.2 kilograms a week. If you're gaining more than that, it's more likely more of that weight is going to come in the form of body fat. So it should be slow, it should be gradual, but you just have to kind of track it. And for some people, maybe you could even be in a situation where you're in a surplus for 5 days of the week, and then the other 2 days you're either maintenance or in a smaller surplus.

Yeah, I'm gonna say surplus of 300 is absolutely perfect. And also, when you're looking to gain muscle, like, people always just think calories, and it's like, look at your sleep, your recovery, your stress management, your hydration, your micronutrition. Like, you're getting in enough vitamins and minerals and a nutrient-dense diet. Like, there's so much more things that you can do to be building optimal amounts of muscle than just calories, you know. So I, I think look at everything and then a slight caloric surplus, that's what you need.

I get a mad pump off after a good night's sleep.

Yeah, same. And I look leaner after a sleep. That's probably lower, lower stress. So yeah, a lot of factors to look at, but I'm going to say 300-calorie surplus.

What's your go-to cocktail?

Oh, mine's whiskey sour without a doubt. Maybe that's the Irishman in me, but I love whiskey and yeah, whiskey sours. It's like refreshing and it's like low enough in carbs. It's like 180 carbs.

Give us a funny story about the whiskey sour and a beefin'.

Oh my God, it had been so long since I had a good whiskey sour and I was just about to sink my lips on a good whiskey sour. Who comes in, he's like, "What drink is that?" And I was like, it's a whiskey sour. He's like, give us a look. Wayne Lineker just comes in, just downs my whiskey sour. I was like, are you serious? He loves the whiskey sour. He loves the whiskey sour. Wayne actually gave us— we were like, how do you do 3 months every day on the trot in Ibiza? And he's like, wake up, goes to ocean for a day, like a lunch, a meal, a glass of wine, vodka Red Bull. And then he's just back on it.

Yeah, that's it.

He says glass of wine with lunch, relaxes, and then he's back on it.

Like, I like a mojito.

Yeah.

And espresso martini.

Yeah, yeah, espresso martini is good, especially if you're a bit sleepy on a night out, wake you up.

Does Mike make you feel insecure about your chest size? Like, do you think people should feel— do you think people should feel insecure around bigger people? I think that's a—

this is just a Mike chest Q&A. And no, absolutely not. Like, there's always going to be someone next to you with a bigger bank account, a bigger chest, you know, a better car. Comparison is the thief of joy, and it's like a pointless task. You know, it's a waste of time just comparing yourself to everyone. You just drive yourself insane. Like, there's always something that you're good at as well. I love how we're getting philosophical on Mike's chest. But nah, I don't compare myself to anyone, or like if I do, I don't like, you know, take it to heart. So no. What about you? Do you compare yourself to anyone, Michael?

Nah, you just can't. And even if sometimes like there's some outrageous physiques, yeah, on Instagram, I'll just stop following those pages if it just winds me up too much. I'm like, nah, I don't need to see that.

Uh, Matt Does Fitness did the 2,500 calorie food challenge. Can either of you top that?

So do you mean 25,000?

25,000, right?

You've already done that one, haven't you?

No, I've done 20,000.

Madness Fitness did 25,000.

Did he complete it? Yeah, I'll need to check that video. No way! I'm gonna have to do it then. Yeah, I'm gonna have to do it. I reckon if I planned out properly and if I like didn't eat anything the day before, maybe like 2 days, like really took it seriously, and if I was at a lean body fat, then yeah, I think 25,000 calorie, 5.5 million. Oh my God.

Yeah, we— I, I said to him, I was like would you ever do 30,000? And he said no. He doesn't even think he could do 25,000 again because it felt so bad afterwards.

Yeah, 20,000 was painful, and 10,000 calories in 1 hour was also self-harm.

What should I do to increase the size of my calves? And also, when is the next holiday with you and Mike?

Next holiday? Well, first of all, calves is, it's just like any other muscle group, you know, train it more often, more frequency, and go heavier on them. Like So many people, they want to train a muscle and they'll just go in, they'll get a little pump on it, and then they'll just leave it. And it's like, you should treat it like, you know, it's like your squat or your bench. Like, you need to be adding a progressive overload onto it. You need to be adding an increased workload. Um, so that's what I'm going to say is treat your calves like, like, you know, your chest or your legs or a muscle group like that. In terms of next holiday, Dubai, baby. Yeah, Dubai for my birthday. January 17th. So yeah, that'll be nice.

Everyone's welcome.

Yeah, everyone get round, meet up on the beach, Jemima Beach, let's go.

What's your biggest accomplishment of 2019?

I'm gonna say having the best-selling book in Ireland when I released it, because I was the worst in my year in school, I was bottom of the year academically bar none, and I failed college. All my teachers, you know, they thought I'd amount to nothing, never mind writing an actual book, a published book by Penguin, you know, which is a huge publisher, and get it to number 1 in my country. And not only a book that, you know, got number 1, it's like it helped a ton of people. Like, people are still sending me their before and afters of, you know, they're reading the book, they're like, I did out my own meal plan, my own training plan, these are my results. So that was a real, real high point for me. And then also getting on the COVID of Muscle Fitness was good too.

I'd probably say The first launch. Yeah, like launching my own brand. Starting off as a swimwear brand, could branch out with something else in the future, but we'll see. But that was, that was a highlight of the year for me.

Yeah, great name. I remember when I saw you did a vlog, if you like, making them, and I was pausing on the shirt and the shorts trying to find out the name of the brand. I was like, what's he calling it? What's he calling it? I was like, Turs. Nice, nice. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. I was like, spelled all like, you know, T-H-O-R-S-T. I was like, ooh, fashionable. So yeah, yeah, exactly. No, that was sick.

We're sick.

Best ways to release testosterone.

Weird question.

That's weird, right? Does that mean like get rid of it? We're building up a long shower.

Who's on the tunes? That Prez?

I had my, my gym playlist on, but now Prez Mike is—

yeah, this isn't quite the pre, this is like the pre before the pre. Yeah, and then when it gets going, we'll get some house tunes playing.

Yeah, this is the pre-pre, this is the glow up. And then we—

man, no doubt when everyone comes around, everyone will just be like putting their own tune on. Yeah, everyone seems to just mess up the playlist.

Yeah, every This song will stay on for like 20 seconds.

Right, last two questions. That's what I do. Last two questions. Um, how to fix muscle imbalances?

Assess what the imbalance is. I'd probably say record yourself, because if you watch yourself back from different angles, you find out that things aren't quite symmetrical. I'd probably avoid barbells and machines and just stick to free weights such as dumbbells. Yeah. Um, and often it's the case if there's an imbalance imbalance on one side, maybe just do more volume on that one side, the weaker side. So if you've got a smaller bicep, then do more curls on the weaker side. Yeah, if you say weaker chest, usually it's because your shoulders creeping forward, and that's because your back is actually quite weak. You can't keep your scapula fixed in place or attracted. So it depends where the imbalance is, but record yourself, figure out where the imbalance is, and then sort it out on just your training program.

Yeah. Wherever the imbalance is, there's always an isolateral version of an exercise that you can do, you know, be it like a curl or a form of leg pressing or even a back movement. So yeah, just like what Dr. Mike said.

Sick. Final question. I think this is one of the harder ones to answer. Yeah, but I think you two have— would have a good answer for it. So what advice would you give someone who started their own page but isn't getting any success?

So Yeah, I actually saw this guy's question and he said he started his page 3 months ago. Yeah, bro, bro, 3 months is nothing. Treat your page like a business because that's what it is, okay? Whoever made a successful business in 3 months' time, like what? 3 months' time, like you close your eyes, you open them, it's like 3 months have passed. 3 months is nothing.

I want to see the find this guy so I can look, because you can usually tell just by looking at the—

yeah, it's, it's like the last comment on my page.

Are we charging this guy for this?

No, he's getting it because, you know, I appreciate people who, you know, watching my content. But seriously, man, 3 months is nothing. Try 6 years, you know? Like, I remember my first year or two of YouTube, um, you know, videos would be getting just 1,000 views and I'd be absolutely delighted with that, you know? And with Instagram, I remember I'd get like, you know, a couple hundred likes on a pic and I'd just be delighted with that. So you got to enjoy the journey and like understand that it's going to be slow at the beginning. But if you're like blogging about or posting about something that you love, which for us is fitness and travel, this whole lifestyle, then you shouldn't, you know, really be worrying too much about that and just doing it and the passion will come out and people will see that.

Good way to put it though.

Yeah, true.

3 months of content. What business work?

Yeah.

Yeah, seriously.

Yeah, like, it's like, if you're gonna do anything substantial, build a physique, build a business, anything, it's gonna take years, right?

This guy's paid. Dude, why would you upload a picture of scales? Yeah, like, there's random pictures of, like, protein powder scales, close-up of a foam roller, a smoothie, like, Yeah, it's not an attractive feed, and it's not very random. It's not personal at all. It's just like anyone can post these pictures. You gotta—

looks like Google Images. Yeah, we're just ripping on this dude, but like, it's, it's actual advice that he needs to hear, you know. You need to be providing value that's going to benefit people, and also information and content that stands out. Yeah, you know, like, it's got to be standout. Like, you know, there's so many So many people trying to do this, and it's got to stand out amongst the masses and be helpful, you know.

I want to see more pictures of you.

Yeah, we want to see you, man.

You haven't even got a picture of your face in there. You're cutting off your face.

And also another thing is, at the start of my, like, YouTube career, I was just doing informative videos on topics. And then once I started letting people into my personal life a little bit, putting my personal Rob Lipsett spin on things, it gained much more more traction because that's what makes your stuff your stuff, you know. Like if Mike tells you about him making a post-workout shake and me making a post-workout shake, it's like it's both the same, but you need to put your spin on it and your personality into it to make it different. So yeah, you know, put yourself out there a little bit more, be more confident, and enjoy it, man.

Also on Instagram, it has to be visual— visually pleasing.

Yeah, yeah, I'm talking— yeah, I was talking a little bit more YouTube there. Instagram is very very like visual because you like—

and YouTube as well.

Sure, yeah, YouTube too, of course. But YouTube, you can speak, you know, and you can put your personality and things. Instagram is very just like visual focus. All right, so I am just about to finish this fade, and then we are going to freshen up and show you our outfits. Uh, we'll give you a quick look at the party when it's going off, if anyone shows up, and then, uh, yeah, we'll finish the vlog up there. So I hope you're enjoying it. Nice kind of chilled get ready with us. And yeah, give it a thumbs up if you are, and see you in the next clip.

Good.

All right, so we just came back from Sainsbury's. Very, very fancy, very fancy. But, um, I'm used to Lidl or Aldi. But anyways, Mike is throwing away—

I cannot speak—

throwing away—

but Mike is throwing a going away party because he's moving to Dubai for a couple of months. And so we started to get together, we got some drinks So might as well talk about alcohol and fitness and the effects on the body. So in terms of fat loss, if you just want to go out, you know, stay lean, have a good time and not let it screw up your diet, then what I recommend doing is just sticking to liquor like vodka and then zero calorie mixer like Coke Zero, Monster Zero, soda water. We got some Diet Bitter Lemon. And then in terms of what you do during the day, I would say throw in 300 calories extra of cardio. You know, try have an active day, uh, hit the gym and schedule the rest day for the following day. Some people say have the rest day in the day you plan on drinking, but personally I think you're just gonna have a terrible session when you're hungover. So I plan my rest days for the day after. And then also lower your fat intake, um, and stick to mainly protein throughout that day, because fat— when you combine fat in your diet with alcohol that fat is actually more likely to be stored as fat. But at the end of the day, with all that said, if you, you know, you go out and consume alcohol, you have a couple of beers and you're still in a caloric deficit at the end of the day, well then you will not store fat and all will be well. And so for example, like 3 bottles of beer, let's say you want to go out, you want to have 3 Coronas, that is about per bottle is 140 calories. So, you know, again, you do your 300, 400 calories of cardio earlier in that day, it's going to cover that. And then same if you want to have a couple shots. There is— some people think they have like shots or liquor, they don't realize there's calories in them. There is calories in vodka and all that as well. So that is my guidelines, is do some extra cardio that day, stick to zero calorie mixers, and yeah, go out and have some fun. Because there's no point in killing it in the gym the whole time and then having no life outside the gym. All about that hashtag balance. So anyways, we're gonna enjoy, we're gonna get ready now, get out of sweats, get all dolled up, and then have a great night. We're going to a club called Tape in London. Comment down below if you've ever been there. I haven't been, it's my first time, so I'm really excited.