Church shopping!? - Episode 092

Welcome back. Another episode of the C Suite, unfiltered with Mike Andes. This is the last C Suite with Mike not being married. How are we feeling?

Single.

Single. My guy. This last. Last moments of freedom. My kid. I kid, but look at that. Dude started this podcast. I was married, didn't have a kid. Now I have a kid. Now you're getting married. Crazy. How are you feeling?

You weren't married when we started the pod.

No, I said I was married. I didn't have a kid.

Oh, I was gonna say, I think the producer was pret on in the show.

No, no, no, I was still married.

Don't.

Don't get me in trouble. Don't get me in trouble. I was married. I was married. I said I didn't have a kid. So life changes. But how are you feeling? It's a. At time of recording. We're three days out.

Feeling good, man. Ready to go?

Yeah. Excited? Yeah.

Yeah, it's. It's pretty low. Low stress, though. We're both on the same page in terms of, like, keep this as basic as possible. Like, we understand there are probably things we have forgot. There'll be things that will fall through in the day of. And we're just like, oops, sorry, we messed up. Yeah, but that'll happen.

Yeah. Make it your day. But, like, let's humanize Mike Andes. How are you feeling? Not just about the day, but this is a big transition for you.

How do I feel? I haven't really discussed. Thought that through very much.

Big feelings guy.

This is gonna sound so bad. Okay, I can cut it. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. This is what it feels. Feels like I'm supposed to be doing. It feels very natural.

Yeah, it's good.

It's the next step, like, what I'm supposed to be in, like, career, life, etc, And I don't mean, like, should as in, like, what's expected of me, but, like, this is the next step of the journey. And, you know, it's another thing to navigate. And sometimes I think the. The stress is, like, I already have so much on my plate, like, how can I handle more? But it also really does, for it's a forcing function for, like, prioritization.

And.

And so even when, you know, last year when we started dating and everything, it was just a matter of, like, relentless prioritization ensued in terms of, like, hiring other people too. That take can take higher level things.

So, yeah, it just. It's just. It's more of a being responsible to someone else, et cetera. That's the part where, like, I'm still learning that part. And so I've made some mistakes on that part already, even in the courtship aspect of things. But we'll learn. We'll grow.

I don't want to die.

I feel good.

Good, good. Well, that's awesome. We're all rooting for you. We're all cheering for you. So if anyone has any sage words of wisdom, feel free to put it in the comments.

Hey, I have.

I have. I have this list.

I have this list here. I'll show it to you.

Yeah, we talked about this a few pods ago. You asked me off stuff.

I got to show it to you, though, dude. I got a whole list of stuff. All teams, everyone inside of Augusta Nation. So if anyone this listening to the C suite unfiltered wants to contribute in the comments, totally fine. But I have a whole list of stuff. Can I show this? Can I show this? Yeah, here's yours. Yours is right here. But then I have a whole list. The whole note zap is just filled of it all team members. And honestly, man, some of the. Some of the advice comes from the people. Like, I was not expecting. Very good. Very good. So, you know, we out here growing, baby.

I love it, dude. Yeah. Always, always be learning, right? You should be looking at models. As Alex Hormozi says, you don't need necessary mentors, but you models of success. So you're just trying to tap into all the different models of success that you see in your life. And I appreciate you doing it. I appreciate you asking, because I think more people need to seek, not necessarily advice, but seek outside wisdom, if you will, on potentially their personal relationships. Not necessarily advice. You shouldn't just go to anyone for advice, but seek wisdom from other people. Might work for you, might not, but at least you're doing it. And so I appreciate that. Good work.

Keep it up. I think of it as, like, you know, if someone wants to climb a mountain, like, at first they get a sharp a Sherpa. And so I look. I look as, like, not as, like, mentors, but, like, I'm trying. If this is the next hill to climb, I would rather do it with someone else that has done this a thousand times and at least get their opinions, their feedback, be able to check in with them. And like, if you. If you're the Sherpa, like, it's got to be actually pretty hilarious because they've done a thousand times. And like, people, this is all new to them, and so it's nice to be like, hey, like, is this normal? Like, the wind on this mountain is like, the temperature. Okay. What do you think? And then, like, you know, bounce things off of them. And, like, if they are alerted or, like, nervous about something, then we have a problem. But if they're just, like, super chills, like, oh, like, this is, this is normal. So I look, I look at as like my relationship advice note app. It's like the Sherpa app. Let's go.

Love it. Are you, are you planning on doing anything like that at some point? Like, in your entrepreneurial journey? You just need a mountaintop experience. Like, you go on, like you're gonna climb Everest or Machu Picchu or do something crazy.

I don't think so. I, that happens, like, after you have midlife crisis, probably down the road. I, I, I think it probably more like when you see me, like, really wanting to get back into philanthropy around medicine. That's probably when you know, okay, Mike's like, he's, he's hit midlife, so.

I love it.

Awesome. Well, we'll appreciate you sharing. We just wanted. People want to know. People want to know these things. But in three days, it is happening. We're doing it. So I'm going to take a drastic right turn here because I know that you really care about the movies and actors in Hollywood. So the awards, right? This is an award. I don't even know. I don't even know. Screen Actors Guild, I was gonna say.

Am I supposed to know what this is?

No, no, no. Screen Actors Guild, they are, I believe the actors vote for other actors. It is, it is an internal thing. So it's a lot of navel gazing. It's a lot of, look at us. We're so cool. Look at, look at how awesome we are. That's all of Hollywood. However, I wanted to point out one thing. Now, this is an actor. Timothy Chalamet. Do you know who he is? He's, he's a big up and comer right now. People are saying he's the next Leo, if you will. He's been a lot of big movies. Very, very good actor. And he went up and gave his speech, and he really hasn't won an Oscar yet. So the Oscar is kind of like the pinnacle. It's the super bowl, you know, for actors. They want to be best male actor, best female Actress, and win that award. That is like the, the, the, the magnum opus, if you will, for an actor. So he gets up there and he's accepting a SAG award and he says this. We are in a Subjective business. But the truth is I'm really just in pursuit of greatness. And it caused a little bit of controversy online because the creatives, if you will, the artists were like, well, it's about making art. It's about making these beautiful pieces that connect with people emotionally, like, spiritually, whatever. That's, that's what being an actor is. That's what art is. It is subjective. And he was like, no, I just want to be great. And he was like, I want to be like Marlon Brando. I want to be like Leonardo DiCaprio. I want to be Michael Jordan, I want to be Michael Phelps. I want to be great. And personally, I loved. I'm the biggest Timothee Charlemagne fan of all time now because I like that it's just a different perspective, like, oh, artist, subjective. And it should connect with people in a different way. But what are your thoughts on hearing that like, and in context? Because you don't know. He is, he is like the most actor looking guy. Like, like skinny, lean, good looking, kind of messy hair, but somehow it looks amazing. You know, the facial hair is like perfect. Like he's your most like typical Hollywood looking guy. Like pretty boy, great looking dude. What are your thoughts on this, this comment?

I'd be interested to have a poll right now as to how many people in our audience actually know who this is.

I think a surprising amount. Probably like he's been in big movies. You just don't, you just don't consume a lot of like media and movies like that.

Okay. Okay.

Yeah, he's into like, he's in, he's in some big movies. Like Dune. Like Dune was like broke box office records. Yeah.

Yeah. Do I need to watch that? Is it like really that good?

I never watched it. I'll just be honest.

I don't know. But I've watched the other movies that he's in. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I have watched him in other movies. So.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's funny, we. I've been thinking a lot about this. It's like, how do you operationalize so much things? We've been talking a little bit, you and I, but like even like in the relationship side of things, but even when it comes like, okay, how do I be a great actor? It's like we'll be charismatic, be enthusiastic, you know, try hard. It's like, well, what are the actionable steps to do that? And so I, I would, I would, I would guess that this individual, whoever. Who was his name Timothy.

Timothy.

Timothy Chalamet. Yeah, I'm not gonna try that.

Such an actor name, dude.

Let's go. I would have guessed that he's. He's operationalized becoming a great actor and he'd done so well because now he just looks at as like, I must do these things and I must be great at these things in order to produce the art that everyone loves. And everyone else is like, it's all about art. And they're like, they're right. So I actually think everyone's right here. They're right, it is all about art. But someone figure out how to operationalize that. Whether that be he paint, he acts, does certain acting, he does certain vocals, he contact certain people, he moved to a certain spot. Like, these are all the operations that actually created the art that everyone, you know, worships and looks up to.

Yeah. And I think I kind of, after I read it, you know, in you talking about like, well, there it is about the art, but there can always be a quote, unquote, best art. Like, art can be subjective, but at the end of the day, if you had to make, if you had to draw party lines and make people vote, there would be a quote, unquote, best piece of art. That's why they have award shows. If they didn't, like, if it was about the art, they wouldn't have award shows. So, like, it's contradictory in that regard. And I think about the analogy I made in my keynote at Blue Collar Summit was the Sistine Chapel. Right. The Vatican didn't put on a marketing campaign to make us believe that the Sistine Chapel was this beautiful painting. It was. The craftsmanship is what spoke for the painting itself. And we all, as a society 400 plus years later, have all agreed that is one of the biggest pieces of arts that needs to be preserved in the history of mankind. So we will preserve it and we will pay our dollars to go see it in person because that is quote, unquote, the best piece of art. So there is objectiv in a subjective field.

Yeah. And yeah, it's difficult because, like, who wins a game? It's very easy to look at the scoreboard because it's very, very objective. I also think though, that even it's subjective as to thinking that something is great in terms of just there being a lot of effort poured into it. It's like, oh, it's a great. Was great because, like, there was workmanship put into it and like blood, sweat and tears. And it looks amazing. It's big. That is also a subjective Measure of greatness. And so for some people that, like, pouring yourself into something doesn't give it any more value just because it's an anomaly doesn't give it any more value because some people see more value in the common. And so I think if we did, like, an award show of art, it'd be some random piece because some people do actually look at it from a completely different perspective than you and I, which are very much like, operations. Like, is it big? Do they put a lot of effort into it? They spend years blood, sweat, and tears. Does it look amazing? So I think there's definitely even subjective measures of that.

Yeah, if you were an artist, you'd be a hyper realist. You would just draw paintings, as you said. Like, you would just draw exactly what it is.

So, no, I just thought it was interesting just overall to, like, hear kind of that attitude from Hollywood. And I don't want to get into, like, the, if you will, like, the meta politics of everything, but I. I wonder if an actor could have gotten away with saying that in the previous four years. I feel like there's been a shift. And someone I saw in the Twitter comments, I was like, okay, this clip's going viral. There's lots of controvers. Let me just scroll through the comments, see if there's anything funny that I could bring up on the pot. And someone said this. They were like, is this controversial, dude?

How is this controversial?

Because. Because the artists are like, whoa, it shouldn't be about him being great. It should be about the art and making a great product and making great art, and that it's not necessary, but the art is.

Is a. Is a function of the artist. Like, without the artist, the art does not exist.

Yeah, no, I completely agree.

So weird.

It's like. And it's like mild Internet controversy. Like, I don't think anyone's up in arms about this, but it's more or.

Less like, isn't like a Will Smith.

I think it's the shock enough people did not see it coming, right? Because it's just. It was the unexpected. Like, oh, this is a moment where, like, we as actors are, like, holding this person up like, hey, we want to give you this award because you deserve it. And then being like, yeah, I deserve it because I'm great and I'm chasing greatness. I think it's that kind of shock and awe value is why it stirred the pot. Personally, I don't think it's controversial in any way, shape, or form, but one of my favorite Twitter comments was didn't have Timothee Chalamet being the prime example of masculinity on my 2025 bingo car. So I was like, I agree. Like, you don't know who this guy is. You got to look up a picture. Maybe I'll put one in right now. You got to look up a picture because he doesn't really. He doesn't portray, you know, he's not the Rock. He's not, you know, Bradley Cooper. He's not these, like, big, you know, 6265, broad masculine guys.

Yeah, I'm looking at him now. Let's go. Okay.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I didn't have him on my perfect example of masculinity in 2025 bingo card either, but here we are then.

Then you have to question, is it masculine to do that?

I would. I would say yes. In that context, if you are at an award show and you are trying to compete to win an award, you have all right to say, I want to be great. So this is fantastic. Thanks for the award. Now I want to go win an Oscar. In that context, 100%, that's totally fine. You shouldn't settle for mediocrity.

So, yeah, this to steal, man. That. It would say this is blending from masculinity into egotism.

Yeah. And I would agree with that. But then at what point does the ego, as we talked about our previous podcast, does the ego start where expertise, masculinity, pushing boundaries end? Is it egotistical for Elon Musk trying to go to Mars? Right. Going back to that example, was it egotistical for the US Government to say we're going to land on the moon? Or was it, hey, this is something we must do, and we're going to push everything that we can to do it. We have the best scientists, we have the best people, we have the best data, we have the best resources. We are going to do this. Was that ego or was that just like pushing to the great beyond pushing to something better than what currently exists? So that would be my argument against it. Like, the line between greatness and ego is very hard to find.

Yeah, I think partly. Maybe there's. There's kickback, because the reason that he got the award is because the subjective opinion of judges versus, like, say, in who got to the moon first, who wins a sports event, who won? It's a very clear winner and loser based upon a scoreboard, based upon certain operations, I.e. scoring touchdowns, getting hit hoops, etc, so it's very clear winner and loser versus a subjective opinion that everyone can disagree with, which I think in the subjective opinion, like the award part, most people think that you should be more humble because you're actually at the grace. The graces of the. The.

The judges.

So.

And I would agree with that. Like, I think there's a balance to it. And I don't think if, once again, the context, like, you didn't see the clip. Like, he wasn't like, I'm great and this award doesn't matter. He was, like, very, like, monotone about it. He was like, this award is. Is a good stepping stone is what he called it. So kind of, like, talked it down. This is a good Stepp tone. We're in a subjective business. I'm going after greatness. Like, that is the tone in which he said it. So he wasn't, like, aggressive about it. He wasn't egotistical. And I think, once again, the context is. It's Hollywood. So, yes, it's his career. Yes, he's going to make a lot of money doing it. But I don't. I think ego also, it depends on the context of what you're talking about. Like, if he was like, I'm going to be the greatest dad. I'm going to be better at you than being a dad. It's like, well, that might be kind of egotistical, like, because being a dad is much more subjective than, like, was that a good movie or not? So I think there's layers to subjectivity when it comes to the context of masculinity. And now we're getting very deep.

Speaking of deep, can I take this in a different direction?

Let's go.

Okay, so now. Now it's time to interview Lee. Okay, so yesterday, did you watch the Mike? But it's Mastermind.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no. Are you putting me on the spot with this?

Let's go, dude. Let's go. I mentioned your name accidentally, but now everyone wants to know. You know, everyone. Everyone' to know. You have notes, don't you? You full? Are you up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you know, maybe.

That's so funny. Okay, so. So, yes, I'll give background and then I'll. I'll tee it up for you. Just for everyone knowing, we do not talk about what we're going to talk about on this podcast. So yesterday, the Mike minutes Mastermind, which is a daily Mastermind live stream that I do at the own inside of Augusta Nation. I'm letting Lee find his notes here.

There's a question about. Basically was like, hey, like, you show A lot like your beliefs are etter online. One question I had was like how do I find a church to go to on a frequent basis? Like what's the parameters? Or like the criteria for finding a good church? And I offhandedly was like ah, just talk to Lee. Lee is good philosophies. I think my, I think my, my feet. My only really thing was like, you know, look at the pastor and like realize you're probably not going to get any more spiritual than him or her. So like figure that out essentially. So did you want to add to that because I didn't mention your name.

I.

Hey, I, I just know there are people that are curious after me saying that and so yeah, you got to give what they want, brother. Totally.

It's a great question. So if anybody actually genuinely is like hey, how do I fund a church? You can reach out to me directly. I have multiple friends that are full time in ministry. Obviously you know, Mike's dad is full time pastoring. I, I use this term, you know, jokingly but I do believe that there is if your intent is, is accurate behind it. Church shopping is what I call it and that's really reducing it. But try multiple churches, go to different churches. If you have friends that go to a certain church, if you have a family member that goes to a certain church, if you have someone that recommends a place for you to go, just try it. And a good rule of thumb, and I'm not putting too much pressure on the churches because hopefully they all embody this is they should welcome you. Like you shouldn't feel uncomfortable. Like you'll feel uncomfortable because you don't know anyone or like where do I go? Like do I go in this door? Do I sit here? When do we stand? Like there will be that uncomfortability because you don't know the normalcy of that, that church and their operations. But they should be welcoming to you, right? They should hopefully have someone, you know, greeting you that's, that's at least kind to you, that's trying to embrace you or welcome you in. I think that's like number one do. And then from a shopping perspective, obviously, yeah, is the pastor speaking? Not what you want to hear, but what the Bible teaches. And I'm assuming we're talking about in a Christian perspective of finding a church, what does the Bible teach? If you are offended or upset by a sermon, that does not necessarily mean you are at the wrong church. It might mean that that's what God needed you to hear. Therefore do not judge the Pastor by just the content of what they're saying. But are they saying what is in line with the Bible? And nowadays there's so much division in the church and just politically speaking there's division everywh that there are going to be some churches that are more accepting of X, Y and Z practices and there are some that are more accepting of A, B and C practices. So it's aligning with what your faith is. And your faith should be founded on scripture. And then is the church teaching that scripture and is that church welcoming? And do you feel like you could be a part of that body? That would be kind of my criteria.

See, I just knew you had a great answer. That's why I just referred over to. So okay, so, so your bingo card, if we're going that direction, is welcome, welcome, welcoming when you first walk in. Yeah, they should be welcoming biblically based, like regardless of how you feel about what's being said, it's like scripturally based. Okay, what else? Let's try to get a four.

I mean like I, that's really like all I care about. Like, are they welcoming because like Christ calls us to be welcoming to others. He calls us to love our neighbor. Right. He said the greatest commandment is to love. Love your God. The second is like it, love your neighbor and the, you know, the golden rule, as we say. So if, if they love God, I. E Are they practic teaching scripture correctly? That is loving God, that is a way of to love God. And then are they loving their neighbor? Are they welcoming to you? I think that's really it. That's the one, two punch. I think beyond that it's all semantics. And that's where, you know, like sometimes, you know, we've, we've had internal conversations where a co worker of ours who will remain unnamed, Liz likes to pressure me into answering hot topic theological questions. And sometimes you just kind of tone it out.

I just, I don't touch it.

Sometimes you tone it out and you're just like, hey, this is all semantics. And I would agree with you. Like it's important to debate those things. But at some point it does become semantics. It's like, hey, what are the core beliefs that we have? And does your church hold to those great. Everything else is noise and you're never going to find the perfect church. Like if you want to find the perfect church, like you're looking in the wrong direction. The perfect church from a biblical perspective is when you go to heaven and you meet with God. And that's a whole Other theological conversation. So the church is run by men and men are what, sinners. So it will never be perfect. So you also need to assume that any church I go to is not going to be perfect. Someone's going to screw up, someone's going to do something wrong. I might get hurt in some way, shape or form. But are those people practicing forgiveness? Are they practicing scripture? Are they embodying what would be practicing the body of Christ and being together? That's what matters. So people, people put too much emphasis on like, church must be perfect. It's like, no, it's impossible. Like, it's, there's no way. Like, that's like, oh, I want to run a business that's 100% profit. Profit. Okay, that's just impossible. You can't have that. Like, you're going to have expenses.

Dude, it's so good.

So good.

So anyways, this would be a great combo. Like so, so for example, like, you know, we had the Bible study at conference. Like, we got Connor Stead, we got. Who else? We got Max Harwood, we got Derek Duran. We could have a great philosophy debate. Let's go. I love it. But you, but you, you always do such a good job of that. That's why I'm like, ah, this is an easy deferral. Can I hand this over to, over to you? So sorry I, I hijacked the pod and put it back on you, so feel free to carry on.

No, you're good. And I mean, the last thing I would just say realistically is just that like the Bible calls us to be among a group of believers. I mean, just Google it. And that's really what I was like pulling up my notes, I was like, I know I wrote down a verse about this, but there are so many verses that talk about being in the body, being with one another, breaking bread together, worshiping together. That is what the Bible calls us to do. And so if you are looking for a church, just know like, like experiment, church, shop, hop around, try different denominations. Like, oh, I don't like Baptist because they're too, too stuffy, right? They're too, you know, suit and tie and quiet. I don't like charismatic churches because they're too loud. It's like, just try a bunch of different ones. Who cares? Like, the best part is be part of the body and take part in what Christ has called us to have.

I love it. I love it. I was going to ask you a follow up question to what you just said and I was trying to listen. So I Messed up there, but continue on.

Fine. No, you're good. No, there. There are multiple verses in Acts that talk about even the one that I pulled up, you know, Acts 20:28. Be very careful. Pay careful attention to yourself into all the flocks. So talking about the church in which the Holy Spirit had made you overseers to care for the church of God which he obtained by his own blood. So really talking about the body of Christ as the church of God, that the Holy Spirit has made us overseers of that body and that we are can commune together through the blood of Christ. Like that is like the. One of the most important verses for the importance of the church. Like it is very clear. Like we are supposed to take part in this together. So that's, that's going back to the scripture. Is it scripturally founded?

Well, kind of back to your hand beforehand is what jog my memory. There was like even recently now I, I pray at the end of owner training and then I pray at conference, et cetera. So like it's always been in the back of my eyes like, is this even necessary? Because like I really, like I don't have any sort of burning desire.

In terms of like the mission of Augusta is not to convert people. It is to you know, make the owners rich and it is to change the level of professional in the industry is like what level do I integrate these aspects of my personal life into the business? But I think the reason I kind of came to the conclusion is like it's such a big part of my life. And because my life has a huge impact on the direction the company goes, I feel like integrating it somewhat was like kind of an important aspect. So like they know how I operate in terms of like my, my decision making process and framework. So that's kind of like why I've been a little bit more like it's only the past year, maybe I started doing that and they had like the last part of, of of owner training is like, hey, like before we go, like take off your hats and let's do this real quick. Yeah, but yeah, I like that you.

Do it because what you said is it's a big part of my personal life. Like zooming in on that comment alone, it, your, your faith, we'll just call it, it is a big part of your personal life. But why is it that like you have to feel like I don't know if I should or not. Is it just because it's your faith? Because there are so many other business leaders that take it it the it's of their personal life. Whether it's partying, whether it's drinking, whether it's boating, whether it's like cars, they bring that it into their. Like Andy Elliott, we make fun of him, but, like, he likes wearing tight shirts and short shorts and working out and talking about his abs. That is his it. Like, he. That is a big part of his personal life that he is now incorporated into his business, whether you like it or not. Like, that is his it and he's incorporating it. I think you're bringing your more full, authentic self when you bring those it's into the business.

Oh, I agree. And that's why he's blown up. Right? And I think the part is like, I think Annie Elliott, for example, has really good points, but he's abrasive to 90% of people. And those 90. The 90% of people could potentially learn from him. The question is, does he get so much more reach because he's polarizing, that the 10 is still greater than the 90% of a grape. Right. And so I agree with you 100. Especially when it comes to, like, dealing with owners. It's like, it's important for them to know that framework that I think through so that when I make certain decisions, even like regulations and stuff inside the franchise, basically, it's like the whole franchise agreement is built on doing others as you would have them do unto you.

Right.

And so.

I think it's. It's just a matter for me. It's like, I do not want that to stand in the way of someone that I could otherwise help. Maybe not in that way, but I could help them in their business and like their family and like, get them through some financial pain. And what I don't want to happen is because the quote unquote tight shirts and showing the abs, I lose out on people that are just kind of like, ah, he's one of them. And that kind of hurts. I don't want to be that. But then I also don't, to your point, don't want to try to just fit inside this box, everyone thinks, and then become basically a blob. You become a, you know, mediocre everything. You stand for nothing. And so I feel like it's a fine line. That's why, like, sometimes, like on the debate of beta topics, I'm just like, a little bit more like, yeah, like, okay, whatever.

But yeah, no, I agree. I think there are, like, there are degrees of how you could turn people off from your content. And like, Gary Vee talks about the new York jets way too much. It doesn't turn people off off though, because like, whatever, it's a football team, who cares? You got your passions, you grew up there, you love them, whatever. But then you kind of get to like, okay, well, some people are turned off because Alex Ramosi wears, you know, cut off jorts and wife beaters. And then some people are turned off by Ali Elliot, Andy Elliott talking about his physical appearance, like, way too much. And then some people are turned off by, you know, someone talking about their faith, whatever it is. It's like there are degrees to that. You just don't want to water down your message or turn anyone off. I completely understand that. I mean, that's definitely something that I've tried to figure out on this pod. Even like, how like, authentic am I, how forward am I with maybe some of my opinions without turning people away. But I'm trying to get better at just being totally unfiltered at this point, which I feel like I've gotten better at.

So after last, after two weeks episode where we just like, can the episode after.

Well, I think, I think we were just both like tired. Something was off. Something was off. When we recorded that pod, something was off.

So I think, I think the difference though, when we come back to that point is like, you know, the way someone looks or addresses, etc, usually has some sort of like, connotation, but where like the three topics you're never supposed to talk about in public are money, sex and religion. And so I think sometimes when you get polarizing in those three, there are inherent things in people's past they associate with it because they had bad experiences at a church or they were, they were, they had even family issues and domestic problems. So when you start bringing in those things, that's when it can get actually like, very defensive. And people have like, I'll use trauma in like the most likely way here that they then associate it with.

So.

So yeah, that's always like, the line I'm always trying to watch is like, I want to be my authentic self. I want to be able to share this part of myself that is important. However, I do not want to prevent someone that could otherwise get a lot of benefit from the business side from hearing what I'm saying and hopefully helping them because I just want to help them. I really don't care whether or not they think like me or believe like me or go to my church, could care less. So, hey, the title of this is going to be Church shopping. You got to make the title of this episode church shopping, dude.

Perfect.

So good.

And then we'll, we'll. I'll do. If I'm. If I can photoshop it, I'll do like a church with like Timothy Charlemagne and like a priest outfit or something.

Dude, let's go use AI for what it's supposed to be meant for. Dude, let's go.

All right, well, anyways, any non financial advice? I know you have a hard cut off, so shorter episode today, but we wanted to squeeze one in for the people.

Non financial advice. Go ahead, dude.

Oh, well, mine, I was just. It's a non financial advice for my candies. Whatever role you've had, whatever title you've had, whatever responsibilities you feel you've had are nothing to what you're stepping into. So just embrace that. Being a husband, being a leader, hopefully one day being a father, that is it. Like that is the most important title you'll ever have. That is the most important thing in your life now, moving forward. So I wish you the best of luck and we're cheering for you. So there's my not financial advice to you.

There's no way I'm following that up. I'm just. Fair enough. We're gonna move forward. That was great. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

I appreciate you. Yeah. I'm excited to be at your wedding. It's going to be a good time. All right. Like and subscribe.