A short conversational YouTube clip (Mike Andes with another speaker) about an employer who terminated an employee after alleged misconduct: skipping an assigned mowing job, falsifying timecards, and taking the company truck. The terminated worker is now threatening to sue for wrongful termination. Mike Andes and the speaker discuss that the claim appears baseless (the speaker cites eyewitnesses, police involvement, and at-will employment), note that Amber conducted the firing, and advise that such threats are likely empty.
Questions this video answers
November 14, 2024
Amber
Jumped in a truck and took (stole) it; fudging timecards; failing to perform assigned mowing job.
Chapters
We let a gentleman go this morning.
Now he's texting you.
Now he's threatening to sue us. He's saying he's wrongly terminated, and he's coming for our company and have your lawyer ready. We had to let somebody go last week. He jumped in a truck and stole it, and we had to go recover the truck. I. Like I said, I try not to deal with the law and stuff. And Amber had asked him to go mow a property. I gave him an opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, like, you know, hey, like, what happened Friday? Oh, are you sure? Like, I talked to a couple people, you know, they didn't. They didn't hear you there. You know, are you sure? You're like, oh, yeah, no, I was there. I was there. And it's just like, you know, I'm like, dude, I have. You lack therefore on camera. I Talked to all 15 employees at the shop over there. None of them heard you there. And your crewmate told me that you guys just drove right by it. He jumps in a truck, takes off, and then I'm out here talking with the police, and he called me and says, I know I left your truck over here. You know, come get it. And I hung up. Like, Then they come back at you, and they're like, oh, I'm going to sue you and take you for everything it's worth. And it's just like, why do people have to be like that? Like, how do you. How do you deal with stuff like that?
All right, when you say do that, you mean deal with it, like, just emotionally and psychologically, or do it actually legally like that?
I mean, and legally, like, do we need to get a lawyer on standby? Like, the guy, like, last week, I let him take my. I have a spare car that used to be my sales car, you know, and he doesn't have a vehicle. You know, hey, $12 a day if you want to take the Prius home, please. You know, because when he first started, he seemed like a good guy. He was trying to get his life back on track. So, you know, hey, if this will help you, $12 a day, take it right off your paycheck. You know, it's just like, they don't. You can do so much for these people, and you just bend over backwards for them, and they just don't give a crap.
So from a legal perspective, did you do anything wrong? Like, on the termination, who fired them?
Amber let him go.
And what would she say when she fired him?
You know, he was fudging his time card and Then he wasn't doing as he was asked.
So how is that wrongful termination?
I don't think it is at all.
Yeah. So it's just an empty threat.
Yeah.
Like, the person's probably never had a. They don't even know how to contact a lawyer, even know what a lawsuit is, hopefully. And so, you know, let's say that they go make a claim on something like workers comp. Sure. Okay, great. They're gonna send an investigator, and you're gonna show that, like, everything was done by what should be done.
I didn't necessarily do anything in writing, though.
It doesn't matter. It's an outwill state, right? Yeah. Yeah. You don't even need to give people a reason. We never give people reasons.
I didn't think you needed to.
You never give people reasons for firing. This happened last week to someone. We were firing them. I'm gonna record you. Tell me why I'm getting fired. Every manager knows you don't say a single word. They know why. They've been meetings and there's been like, we're trying to work with you. We're trying to do this like they know why.
You know, having this, like, twice now in two weeks is just like. It seems like the quality of people you get to work these days suck.