Crush Your 20s: Transform Your Life Socially, Professionally & Mentally (Part 3)

Welcome to Readers, the podcast for the lifelong learner. Join us on our weekly dose of wisdom where we talk about the real-life lessons and applications of books. Enjoy. Hello and welcome back to Readers. Today we're once again joined by Nick Batchelder, author of Crush Your 20s. Welcome back to the podcast, Nick.

Thanks for having me. Excited for the final ride.

Yeah, looking forward to it. It's crazy. I mean, I think we finished up this book pretty fast. I mean, it's not that long of a book. Which I think is kind of how you meant it to be so that it can appeal to, you know, the younger generations there. But yeah, I'm looking forward to this and yeah, let's get right into it.

Let's do it.

So, you know, in our last episode or part 2, we explored chapters 4 through 6, right? We talked about uncovering strategies for mapping and protecting our time. We talked about escaping the rut and we talked about kind of tuning our radar to seize social opportunities. Right? We also talked about production line planning, the 3 Pillars exercise, and even perception drills like Tesla spotting. Right? Um, here in part 3, we're kind of going into chapter 7 and a little bit of just overall in the book. Uh, we're talking about setting realistic timelines with guardrails. We're talking about balancing ambition and self-compassion. And we're talking about reflecting on the journey of writing this book for you in real time. So without further ado, let's dive into Chapter 7.

Let's do it.

So you kind of start this chapter off with a pretty sobering note, right? You, you kick it off by urging our readers to take every timeline they've set for themselves, right? As an example, I want to be— I want to have my perfect body by summer, or I want to have this, you know, I want to have my bench press be 245 by you know, a month from now or something, and you urge them to actually double that timeline. Now, you remind us that our ideal deadlines often won't stick and that doubling it actually helps us be more realistic and increase our confidence. So, you know, my first question kind of is what inspired you to recommend doubling those deadlines rather than sticking with our ideal timing? That we might have set for ourselves?

Yeah, deadlines has always been a funny thing that I've debated between myself because there's two ends of the spectrum. One end is if you give yourself a really, really urgent timeline, you know, one argument is, okay, well, I'm gonna be more motivated to get it done because I have to get it done by this urgent timeline. The other argument is, well, if you set timelines like that, it's really unrealistic and odds are you're not gonna reach it. And then when you don't reach it, you end up getting discouraged and you end up giving up. And after doing a little thinking about it, what I, what I ultimately came to was I think long and realistic timelines are great because it really helps you get in the mindset early on of I'm doing this for the long run. I'm not doing this just for the destination, right? It's like the person who likes to walk will walk longer than the person— will go farther than the person who likes the destination. I think that's the biggest thing when it comes to goals is if you really, really want to achieve all the goals that you're setting, you can't just do it because you want the outcome. You have to get comfortable and normalize the process, right? So like if it's the bench, if you're trying to get a better bench, like you have to normalize going to the gym. If you want to read more, you have to normalize reading. And if you set super urgent deadlines and you're like, I'm just like, I'm gonna get this over with really fast. When that doesn't happen, you're gonna get really discouraged because, you know, you were just hoping to get this quick hit and reach this goal really quick. And it, from my experience that doesn't happen.

Sure. But you know, also kind of looking at that similar, you know, philosophy, right? There's often real value in pushing past that comfort zone, right? When we double those timelines and give ourselves more time to achieve a goal we may have been able to do in a shorter amount of time, it's almost like we're giving ourselves a, you know, a comfort zone. Maybe it feels like an easy way out. Maybe I'm perceiving that wrong. And you know, there's always the saying that The comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing actually grows there. Right? So do you feel like there could be benefits to setting a more aggressive deadline than even the double timeline, whether that's uncovering, you know, a hidden capacity that you never thought you had or creative breakthroughs when you're kind of in a time crunch?

Yes. I think there's absolutely a place for setting a goal and then making it a little harder, right? Putting it just outside your reach. Right? So for example, I mentioned last podcast, I'm doing more running. I'm trying to do Spartan races. And like every time I'll like, okay, I think I can run 4 miles at, you know, an 8:45 pace. So my goal's gonna be 4.5 miles at an 8:35 pace, right? It's like pushing your limits a little more, right? I don't think I could do it. And based on the logic that I was saying, I would say like, okay, we'll do a 9:30 pace at 3 miles, right? But that's not what I mean. I don't mean give yourself an out. I mean really internalize it and, and, and view it as, hey, like I'm here. To run for months and years at a time, not I'm just here to get to the next step. And so I, I completely agree, and there is absolutely value in pushing timelines and pushing your limits and, and making sure that you do that. But I would— I would— my, my message to people is do that, but don't do it in the sense of I want to do this so I can get this over with faster, right? Keep the underlying message in the back of your head of like, no, this is a lifelong process, right? You don't go to the gym and then you're done going to the gym. Like, the gym is something you do the rest of your life, right? You know, being a discipline, like getting the habit and the character of discipline, right? Like that's something you have the rest of your life. Emotional intelligence, confidence, right? Like you're trying to build these things for the decades to come, right? You're not just trying to get to the destination. And so that's what I mean by that is view it as a long, long game, not just as something to get to and then you're done.

Gotcha. So what you're saying is turn a, you know, maybe a short-term goal into a long-term almost lifestyle if that's something you want to continue forward.

Yeah, it's an identity.

Now you also talk about, obviously, you know, you talk about being able to turn a habit or a, you know, a goal into a lifestyle, but you also talk about confidence here, right? Like you say, the fact that missing certain deadlines that we may have set for ourselves or not being able to accomplish something in the time we originally thought we would be able to can erode our confidence, right? And you say that in response to that, to fix that, we should give ourselves a little bit more time, even if that means We, you know, take a little bit more time to do it, but it means we turn that goal into a lifestyle and be into, you know, a confidence booster. When someone falls behind their own double timeline though, what's the best way to kind of recover that momentum without getting discouraged? You know, whether they've doubled the timeline, whether they've kept it the same, whether they've pushed themselves, you know, I feel like when we often fall short on our own goals that we were confident that we could achieve it, definitely takes a hit on your confidence, right? And, and what do you feel like when that's happened to you or to people you might have met? How do you feel like the best way is to gain, you know, regain momentum when that happens?

For me, it's a lot of reflection and then it's talking to a mentor, someone I respect, right? It's like when that happens, you know, it sucks and you're like, you're really confident this was gonna work out and it, and it hurts. And for me it's like the first step is okay, taking a step back and going, Okay, why did this happen? How do I feel? You know, do I want to stop? Do I want to keep going? Do I want to change what I was doing? And then it's going to someone I, I really trust and admire and saying like, here, here's how I'm feeling, here's what I think I should do. Like, I, I need to talk to somebody about it, right? And the reality is, if that happened, like if you doubled your timeline or you've had the same goal for a long time, it didn't work out, like you— there was something, unless something crazy happened, it's usually you made an assumption that wasn't true. Or you made a mistake and getting an outside opinion is a great way to identify that. Cuz often like we don't wanna identify that. Like if we were, you know, if my goal was X and I really thought this was gonna happen, but me, I just wasn't as disciplined. I was, if I was delusional about how disciplined I was being, right? If I thought like, oh, like I'm crushing it, I'm really disciplined. And I go to someone I really respect and admire who's not afraid to give me the hard truth. Like that's just a great way to get down to it. So for me, it's always getting a third third opinion and doing some self-reflection.

Now, obviously confidence is a huge component when it comes to achieving our goals or, you know, aiming higher and shooting for the stars, right? But at the same time, you know, pushing our limits and doing things we never thought we could is also an equally important part of that, right? And here in your book, you kind of contrast growth with comfort. So, you know, my question to you is how can someone find that right balance between pushing their limits to things that they, you know, maybe didn't think they could achieve at first. And also creating small wins, whether that's daily, weekly, monthly, that boost confidence in their own lives.

Yeah. For me, confidence and, and peace and content and a lot of happiness for me comes from knowing that I gave it all I had, right? And knowing that I did better today than I did yesterday. And like you said, it doesn't have to be big things like You know, reading, like if I'm going to bed and I'm really tired, I'm like, you know what, I really wanna go to bed, but I'm gonna read 5 pages. And like even little things like that, it's like, okay, that's a win. I was like, you know, I really wanna, I really wanna eat ice cream right now, but it's like, all right, I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna wait. Or I really wanna go on TikTok right now, but I'm gonna call my grandma. Right. And then at the end of the day, reflecting back and going, okay, wow. Like, you know, I didn't run a marathon. I didn't. You know, I didn't save the world. I didn't, you know, cure cancer, but like, those are still wins. I still gave it more than I thought I had, right? Like, I left it out on the field and my confidence and my content and my peace really comes from that of going like, I push my limits. And like, I'll give you like, I went for a run 2 days ago and it was a 4-mile run. And that mile, like halfway through, I was so tired. It was really windy. It was really hot. And I was like, I'm done. And for whatever, whatever reason I pushed through and I did it and I was, and at the end I wasn't happy that I ran 4 miles or that I ran it at a certain pace. I was happy that I wanted to quit and I did it anyway. Right. And so just finding the little wins in that, right. And I think especially now, like we're in such a world of comfort where, you know, it's not that hard to identify things we don't wanna do. It's like you wanna eat junk food, you wanna go on TikTok, you don't wanna talk to people. You wanna, you know, watch t— watch a movie instead of apply for a job, whatever it is, right? It could be anything, but you know, finding the little wins and, and giving it all you have is what I try and focus on.

So would it be accurate to say that kind of in those short-term, maybe daily things that you do, it's important to reflect back on those little wins that may boost your confidence. And when it comes down to it, to things that you really have to achieve, it's better to, you know, push your limits while also giving yourself a graceful deadline.

Yes. And you know how we mentioned Teslas last time, right? And looking for Teslas. It's like, I look for those little wins. So when I do those little wins, like, I notice it and I give myself that identity of like, oh wow, like, I really am pushing my limits. It's something I can do. Like, that when the next one comes up, I know I can, I know I can beat it, right? Yeah. And just continuing to like let those grow.

Yeah. I mean, one of the biggest issues I think people face, right, is obviously your own self-confidence, pushing your own limits, falling behind, and not being able to complete your own deadlines. But often, you know, the grass also looks greener on the other side, right? When you feel sometimes like, oh, you know, I did something, but you look at the guy next door and he's doing something that looks even flashier, looks better. I feel like often people's confidence gets eroded because of that, right? And I think, you know, maybe I'm speaking from a little bit of personal experience here, right? Being a freshman in college, right? Going from, you know, arguably a pretty small high school that I went to and to a school that's, you know, 50,000 people. And every day you'll hear about someone doing some amazing thing, getting an amazing internship, you know, getting a great return offer, whatever that is, right? And I think when I look at that side, then my own accomplishments may be, may not look as great to myself, right? What strategies do you recommend for people who struggle with staying focused on their own progress and maybe don't struggle as much with meeting their deadlines or having that confidence for themselves, but lose confidence because of You know, the fact that they feel that the grass is always greener on the other side.

Yeah, self-comparison. Have you— I don't know if you've ever read The Four Agreements. Have you heard of that or read that book?

The Four Agreements? I don't believe so.

The idea is if you make these four agreements with yourself, like, you'll be happy. And one of the agreements, which is perfect for this, is don't take anything personal. Now, it's a little extreme, but the idea is don't take anything personal. So don't take Uber compliments personal. Don't take feedback that's negative personal. Don't worry about it. Like, don't listen to anybody else. It's not personal. Everything they say is about them. Like, focus on you and what you have to say about yourself. It doesn't matter. And I think that's a really interesting angle that I like to take into account of, like, you know, I, I of course enjoy compliments and I enjoy people think— saying nice things about me. And I of course always— I always take note of legit criticism, like constructive criticism. But generally speaking, the weight that that holds is very low for me. So something that I've found is like, I've, I, and I'm still playing around with this concept. I, I wanna state it with that, but of like, don't take anything from anyone too seriously. And when I don't take the, the positive stuff, you know, and let that go to my ego, it also helps me cuz I don't have taking the negative stuff and putting that on my ego, right? When I take everything and then it's just like a lot and it's can be problematic. So I'm try— I have a very big filter of like whatever it is, positive or negative, like I'm very selective about it.

Sure. You know, kind of going back to that conversation we had a little bit earlier about deadlines and making sure that we give ourselves enough grace to accomplish our goals with enough time, right? I think maybe this is just a me problem, you know, but I think sometimes giving myself more time to do something actually makes me procrastinate a little bit more, right? Like if I give myself twice the amount of time to finish a school project or a homework assignment or something than I originally thought it was, often I'll push that off until, you know, my deadline isn't as long as I thought it was anymore, you know? And here you kind of introduce, and this is actually how you close the chapter, but you talk about guardrails, right? Checks and balances that we can put in place so that these certain missed deadlines don't end up derailing your entire project or your entire momentum for everything you do. Sometimes I feel like I struggle with this myself where, oh, I've just come home from school and it's summer vacation and the first week or two I didn't work out, right? Because I didn't have a gym membership at home. So that'll just completely derail my momentum, mess up the rest of the day for me, and I don't get that much done, right? Can you share an example of a guardrail you might have used personally and how it can save you from complete derailment in, you know, other aspects of your life?

Yes. And really quickly, before I answer that, I don't want to get off track, but addressing your point about— because I think I see where the miscommunication is. Like you're saying, like, I get the deadline thing, right? Like if you have a quick deadline, it helps you get it, get it done. I think what I'm trying to convey is the little things. I get it. The school assignment, the going to the gym, 3 times this week, like whatever it is, right? The little things, quick deadlines, I get it. Mm-hmm. What I'm really talking about is like the huge personal goals, right?

Mm-hmm.

Getting a great job, getting in perfect shape, finding a girlfriend, learning whatever characteristics you want, right? I think oftentimes with those ones, right? Or building a great podcast, right? Your podcast, you know, you, you could set the deadline of my podcast is gonna be the best podcast in the world. In 5, 6 months or 1 year. But realistically, like, it might take a decade, right, to really get it where you want to go. And so what I mean by that is, with those big goals that are really important to you, um, don't let time and short deadlines discourage you because it really, like, it really does take time. And oftentimes with some of those, it's factors you can't control, right? Like, you can't always control everything about the podcast and how it's received. Sometimes it's just waiting to see if it hits. And you can't always control everything about, you know, the gym that you're going on— going to, because sometimes you go home and you have 2 weeks and you don't have a gym membership, right? But it's having like the bigger perspective of like, no, like this is going to happen. And if I have patience, like I'll get to where I want to go. That's what I mean by that.

Gotcha.

And then to give you a guardrail, I think, I think the best and most helpful guardrails for me are the people that I'm around. Like, genuine, genuinely, if like, if I'm around, if you know, like when I go home, I'm about to have the same thing. I go home this weekend and my brother is a gym maniac. Like, he is going to the gym every single day, twice a week, twice a day because he's like a total football fan. Oh my God, that's crazy. And yeah, but it's like when I'm around him, if I'm not going, like he gives me a hard time for it.

Yeah.

And I also see him go all the time and it gets on me. And then when I'm home, I see my dad working really hard and doing a lot of networking. I'm like, all right, I forgot I got to do that. And so for me, it's just like seeing reminders in my daily life through the people that I'm with is the best motivator for me.

Gotcha.

And best guardrail.

So honestly, it's not even self-imposed checks and balances, but rather it's the people around you that, you know, the 5 people you spend the most time around, you know, kind of make up your own personality.

Yeah. And obviously it's, you know, it's less selective when you're home with your family. That's beneficial to have a nice family. But when I'm at college and I'm I'm, you know, out working and who I spend time with outside of my family, it's, that's more of a selective thing, right?

Gotcha. You know, I don't know if my transition here is the best, but—

Hit me.

If I'm being honest, right, this is the end of the book, right? You kind of close off with this concept of guardrails, of checks and balances, and of, of making sure that the people you surround yourself with are, you know, the people that will push you to be your best self. Now obviously we can kind of end the, end the part here, but I have actually a couple questions that I wanted to ask you about your own journey through writing this book and how you feel like it's impacted your life, your siblings' lives, and the people who you wrote it for. Right. Now, I think in regards to my terrible transition there, right, I think that actually speaks to the book itself. And I think that's one of the most special parts about this book, right? I think one thing you talked about when we were first meeting was that this is not a book that has to necessarily be read in order. Most people our age don't want to go through every single book in chronological order and read every single page. You can almost flip this open to any page or chapter and learn a new lesson almost completely from scratch. So to our listeners out there, you know, who may not be the biggest readers in the world, you know, if someone was to ask you where they should start with their own self-growth journey, what's the best starting point from your book or otherwise that you would suggest they start with? I know you said in your journey books was your starting point, so I want to ask you what you feel like you would recommend.

Um, can you say that again? So like what kind of content you mean, or like where they should start?

Yeah, where should they start? I mean, obviously your book would probably be the best for you to speak about because, well, you know, you wrote it. Um, but where would you feel like would be the best place for them to start their own journey in that way?

You know, it's, You know what's funny is for me, one of the ways it initially started was my Instagram Reels and TikTok feed.

Okay.

It was just all super motivational and all educational. And I genuinely, although I think that is definitely not the best platform for learning a bunch of things, if you get on the right feed, it's actually— I actually think it's a really nice transition because people are going to be on TikTok anyway. Like, people are on TikTok, they don't want to read. And if you can actually just fix your feed a little bit to get more educational stuff, to get clips from podcasts, to get good quotes, I actually think that's one of the easiest ways to get into it because all you got to do is keep scrolling and like things that are more educational.

Gotcha.

Now, that is obviously is not a long-term plan.

Yeah.

So I would say this. I would say if you're really in the weeds about it and you're like, man, I cannot— I don't want to read a book. Like, that's not happening. I would genuinely say, I would say, okay, we'll start with your reels. Like start with your short-form content and make it a little more educational. Then go to podcasts, 'cause podcasts are still entertaining. Mm-hmm. Um, and you can, you know, listen to authors speak and listen to like their summaries of what they've learned best without having to read the whole book. And then as you're listening to podcasts, when you find guests that you really enjoy, be like, okay, I'm gonna check their book out and start with that. And then I kind of find that little process helps, helps me get into it. And I would say, you know, you can start with reels and then eventually it'll lead to a book faster than you think if you stay with it.

And you know, when they're at that stage where they're reading books and, you know, maybe your book is the first one they pick up, right? If, you know, maybe this is a hard question to answer, right? But if you had to just take away all the other parts of the book and just keep a chapter or one lesson that, you know, you could pass on to whoever it is that you love that's going through this phase in this age right now, What would that part be? What would that lesson be if you had to take away all the other stuff?

It would be the Tesla chapter. It would be what you think about is what you become. What you focus on is what you see. And that goes for so many things. If you see yourself as a reader, you're gonna read. If you see yourself as a nerd, you're gonna get better grades. If you see yourself as a gym rat, you're gonna go to the gym more often. Mm-hmm. And being so strict about how you speak about yourself, because so often we make jokes about like, well, oh, like, yeah, I'm like, I'm dumb. Oh yeah, this is a bad outfit. I'm ugly. Like, we make those little like jokes all the time, but it's like those— that really means a lot. And when you say it over and over again, when it's a habit, your subconscious really develops it and it impacts our confidence when, when it's on the line, right? Like, it's easy to be confident in your room playing video games. It's not easy to be confident on a first date with someone you just met. It's not easy to be confident approaching someone you've never seen before. It's not easy to be confident in a job interview. It's not easy to be confident when you walk into the gym for the first time. And how you identify and speak about yourself every day at all times impacts that. And if I could give one lesson in one chapter, it'd be that chapter and that sentiment.

Gotcha. You know, I guess even looking at your face when you were thinking of the answer to that question, I kind of see like you know, in your eyes, like the whole reliving that whole journey of writing the book, your past experiences that led you to write that, your research and your, you know, time reading a lot of other books that may have inspired you to write this. I think one of the most incredible things about even reliving your own journey or writing something or, you know, having a podcast where you share experiences, I think there's always something that tends to surprise you, you know, that you already knew about yourself or that you've already lived through, but even thinking back about it, it kind of surprises you, like, huh, I didn't know I looked at this like that, you know, or I didn't know that this was a habit that was so beneficial until, you know, I actually sat down and put pen to paper. What was one lesson that maybe had that effect of, you know, surprising you most during that process of writing the book that you didn't even know that you had or worked on, but it's something that made a big difference for you?

Yeah, I remember reading the book, but I mean, I read the book back, you know, probably like I remember reading, I read it like probably 3 or 4 times. I remember every time I read it back, I'm like, whoa, I wrote that, right? Like, it doesn't really seem like you sometimes. And I, a memory that comes to mind is the honestly, like the first, like 10 pages of like when I get into the introduction and then I kind of begin the emotional intelligence part of it and it's just so, it's so well written and I'm so sincere about who I, who I was. In terms of like being really shy and not confident and, and not being, you know, not getting into good colleges and not being where I want to be. And like just reading that and just reflecting on that, it's not necessarily a lesson per se, but reflecting on where I was, um, it's my favorite thing and it's the thing that catches me the most off guard. Because when you kind of take on a new identity and you, you're in a new place in your life, like you just forget Right. And like, that's a lot of, you know, part of my message is like, hey, I wasn't always like this. I wasn't always how I feel today. And it's really interesting and really cool to reconnect to that. And it always catches me off guard.

Yeah. I think one of the most unique parts about your book that you kind of hinted at there, right, is that you almost wrote it as you were living it, right?

Yeah.

Totally. I think a lot of people will almost complete their careers or get to that huge milestone that they've always wanted to get to, and then they reflect on that journey and write a big book about it, right?

Yeah.

But you're almost writing as you go along.

Yeah, the heat of battle.

Yeah, exactly. And, you know, obviously that probably comes with its own challenges and its own benefits. Can you share a little bit about what those challenges and benefits might have been of writing this book as you were, you know, almost living those experiences yourself going through that?

Yeah, so there was a couple challenges. One challenge was my ideas were changing a lot. So because I'm in the heat of the moment, like I didn't have clear thoughts of reflection of here's what works, here's what doesn't. A lot of it was like, hey, I'm writing about this, and as I'm writing about it, I'm testing and trying it, and sometimes things change, right? It's like I have to go back and like change a lot, 'cause it's like, well, I actually changed my mind. And one of the other things that was kind of tough was, tough and brilliant, was like, it's called Crush Your Twenties, but I published it when I was 20, right? And that was always the first thing I got was, how old are you? I'm like, I'm 20 years old. And they're like, well, how would you know the answers? How would you know how to crush your twenties haven't done it yet, right? But it was like, that was the whole point, was I, I have not crushed my 20s yet, but I'm in a very good place for a 20-year-old, and I'm teed up to crush my 20s. And here's a new perspective of what it's like to be in the heat of battle. And I always, I, I really liked that idea because I just think it's more relatable, right? I think if I were to rewrite that book right now, it would not be as relatable. Because I would just— because you just, you lose perspective, right, of like what those true emotions really are and, and what you're really feeling. And I can't relate to people who are, who are maybe dealing with some of the same things as I could when I wrote it. And it was hard because I'm changing ideas all the time and people are kind of looking down on it, but it was well worth it.

Yeah.

Any—

you know, I don't want to, you know, put you on the spot here. Last very final question before we wrap up this part 3 and the book. Any last final words for our listeners who, you know, have gone through this process with us, who might be curious about where to find the book, you know, and what it's all about, and, you know, just overall, so a couple takeaways.

My whole life philosophy right now is do as much as possible, like experience as much awesome and poor, like bad, terrible things as you can, right? As funny as that sounds, it's like, I just like to do. And leave it all on the table. And I have found that that has led me to much more happiness than thinking about things has, or waiting for the right moments, or only doing things that I think are gonna do well. And even when you're thinking about things like a book, right? You're like, maybe this book, you're like, Chris, you're 20s, I don't know, maybe I'll like it. Like, just do it. You're gonna enjoy life more if you're doing things than if you're sitting on the sidelines. Um, and that is a big takeaway. And for anybody listening, You can find Crush Your 20s on Amazon, just look up Crush Your 20s. You can also just look up my name on the internet and you'll go to my website and I'll have everything. I have a podcast, Building the Blueprint, which is very similar to this, but, you know, more of a free-flowing little business-y. And you can follow me on social media @thenickbatchelder on any of the platforms.

Fantastic. You know, as we, as we wrap up part 3 of our deep dive into Crush Your 20s, I think we've learned a lot, right? Not just through this part, but through all the episodes. We've, we've talked about setting realistic timelines, right? With the doubling strategy. We've talked about building guardrails that keep us on track, surrounding ourselves with people who keep us on track and striking the right balance between ambition and self-compassion. Remember everyone who's listening to celebrate the small wins, to avoid the comparison trap and lean on those guardrails, whether that's weekly check-ins, accountability buddies, or just simple reminders, right? And thank you so much, Nick, for sharing your insights and experiences.

Thank you for having me. This has been really fun.

Absolutely. And lastly, to our listeners, I just want to encourage all of you to, you know, pick one action this week, right? Maybe that would be doubling a deadline, setting a simple guardrail, or, you know, revisiting any chapter of this book that speaks to you. If you haven't, like Nick said, please grab your copy of Crush Your 20s to explore even more tools for growth and transformation, 'cause we definitely haven't covered them all. And yeah, thank you everyone for listening. Until next time, keep on learning, keep on changing, and keep on growing. We'll see you next time.