The Realities of Sobriety-My Sobriety Story with King Dre

All right, welcome, everybody. We have special guest for you. King Dre is here. He is another YouTuber that I ran across kind of accidentally. One of his videos, he was talking about his journey with giving up alcohol. And he has been so gracious to show up here and talk with us about that process. He said some things in a video of his I watched that really sort of got my attention. And this is. This is coming from somebody who hears people talk about quitting alcohol every day. So he's got something special to say. You guys help me welcome King Dre to the show. Hello. We're glad you're here.

Thank you. Glad to be here. Appreciate the opportunity.

He's going to tell us about the realities of getting sober. One of the reasons why I invited Dre here is because he is a truth talker. He tells it like it is. So just give it to us straight. Tell us about how the drinking. How you started drinking. Just how it started for you drinking.

As you know, it was. The struggles was with me was drinking and then alcohol. The drinking started. High school. I think it was high school. Just something like everybody else is doing it type of thing, like, right. Cool. Like being cool, like that type of thing. And it just. It was a social thing for, you know, a lot of my life and a de stressor, too, at the end of the day. But it. The drinking part didn't get out of control until my 30s.

Okay. So, yeah, it started off kind of normal for you, regular, like most people drink in high school or 20s, early 20s. But then something happened, you said, and it's change.

Yeah, I went through a breakup. Breakup, and I think I was 32 or 33 years old. Bad breakup with my kid's mother. And I knew it was over from that point. And we were together probably on and off for the better part of, you know, 10 to 12 years. But this. I knew it was over. So actually before. Actually before, because we had started to have problems, and I'm not the type of guy to, like, beg people to be with me or stalk or. I just always felt like I could just get somebody better, but I felt that I was losing what I considered my family, if that makes sense. So, yeah, just one thing led to another, and I just started drinking every day. Every day for. For about a year.

So you started. You sort of. You drank socially, but now you're. You're sort of drinking to cope?

Yeah, every day.

Anxiety, stress. Right. Okay.

Yeah.

And then heart rate.

Yes, Every. Every day. And it got bad again. I would drink, party. I Partied a lot my 20s, so I, you know, binging on the weekends, going out to clubs, drinking, drinking, drinking. But, you know, I didn't felt like I needed it. Then these, all these years, just like, okay, you do this when you go out, go on a date with a woman, you have some drinks. It was that type of thing. But again, after, after that breakup was when it was like every day and I noticed myself, like, going to the liquor store if I got off of work, getting a fifth, a whole 750 milliliter or whatever it is, a fifth, and I would drink the whole thing.

Did you notice that you would sort of plan your life around it? Like, did you think a lot about it? Were you like, I can't wait to get out of here. I'm gonna stop store. Like, did it become kind of central in your thoughts?

Nah, it was just natural. Like, it wasn't like a conscious, like, almost.

It was just like automatic.

Automatic. Just clung to it automatically.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, just every single day. Every day.

What point did you start to think, something wrong here or. I don't like this. When did it.

Like, damn, bro, you've been drinking a lot. It's like, it's all good. Say whatever. It's all good. Because I was still, you know, I was working out and stuff like that too. But he's like, you've been drinking a lot. Kind of brushed it off. But I noticed, I started to notice that I would get extremely anxious around the same time every day. Like, extremely, like, very, very anxious. It was around the time, well, I was time to drink on the drink.

It's called I need a drink feeling. Yeah.

When I drink, it started to go away. I was like, okay, yeah, this is bad. This is getting out of hand.

Now this buddy that said, man, you've been drinking a lot. Is this a guy? Did he drink too? I'm assuming, like, y' all drink.

No, he didn't, but he smoked weed.

His name was weed. Your thing was drinking. But he, he sort of called you out a little bit.

Yeah. And. And you know, amongst us, like, alcohol is kind of the bad thing. Weed is society. Weed is like, oh, it's a, you know, I'm not a weed smoker. I don't smoke weed.

Okay.

But yeah, I probably smoke weed more than I drink. But he just, you know, it's like, man, you kind of drinking a lot, man. Been drinking a lot. I was like, ah, whatever.

What'd you think when he said that? What do you think internally?

I didn't give it much thought. It was just like, oh, whatever.

Okay.

Yeah, whatever. You. I mean, find your business, basically. Like, it's like, it's not that serious.

Okay? So a little defensive. Not, like, crazy. You're probably thinking, dude, you have your thing. That's just my thing. Or something like that.

It was. Yeah, it was thinking that, but I didn't. It wasn't. I didn't say that to him. Like, everything is straight. I'm good. Because he was like, you good? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. It's just, you know what? You know how I go. It's just. You know what I'm saying? And that. That didn't go. That conversation really didn't go too far after that, you know? But again, I started to feel like I. Even if I get extremely anxious now, it's not. It's not that type of feeling, okay? Like, after I stopped drinking, I get extremely anxious. It's not like that. It was very, very intense. Like, very weird. Like.

Like.

It'S hard to explain, but I would notice. I would get that around that time around, like, 7:00pm, 7:30pm I would get that. I would get that feeling then.

Is that your normal. That would have been your normal, like.

Drinking, like, after work, chill out or go to the gym? I would go to the gym first, and then when I leave the gym, I stop by the liquor store.

And then that makes sense because I was thinking, for most people, that feeling starts around five or six, but, you know, did the gym. And so for you, that's why your clock was set to, like, around 7ish?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So after the guy said it to you, did you start to notice it more or. That just was, like, an event and it just kind of passed.

It was just an event, and it kind of passed. And I always had the mentality, that ain't gonna be me. I'm better than that. Like, I'm stronger than that. Like, I'm. It's not me. That ain't gonna be me. That can't be me.

Okay?

It's not like I need it. I can cut this off when I want to.

I don't need that.

Yeah. I don't need it. It's just something to do. I got. I was not dealing with my kid's mom anymore again. And then I'm dealing with a bunch of girls. So it's just like, get off work, get. Go to the gym, stop by liquor store, invite a new girl over. He's just drinking together. But even when I didn't have a girl, it would be. I would drink.

Drinking. Okay. And then what happened that made you decide you didn't want to do that anymore?

I started to get this feeling. Start. I started to get this feeling I was telling you about. And I remember it was super bowl, right before the Super Bowl. 2019 Super Bowl. So this is around January of. No, February, because I quit in March. I was getting these feelings. And I remember I was doing a video for my. My channel. And in doing the video, I was talking about, like, lying and stuff, but I felt really eerie. Like, I felt. I felt really weird doing this video. And. I don't know, I just remember feeling. Feeling really weird. Well, a couple days later, I guess I had a panic attack, and I went to the ER and they did mine. They ran my blood work, and they did all of this stuff, and it was like, hey, man, your blood pressure is crazy. Your heart rate is all over the place. Do you drink or smoke? Any other time I go to the doctor, I would always lie, no, I don't drink. No, I don't smoke. For some reason, I was like, yeah, I drink. How much? I drink a bottle a night. It's like, you need to chill. It's gonna start getting bad for you. You got to chill out. I still didn't stop right then and there.

Okay.

But I was like, okay, I'm gonna try to chill. And then one day. One day, it was March 19th or March 20th, one of those days, March 20th, the night before, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be done with the drinking or whatever, because they made me buy. When I. When I was at the hospital. He was like, you should buy a. Get a blood pressure thing, man, because your blood pressure. Excuse me, your blood pressure is high. You should buy a blood pressure thing. So I had bought the blood pressure thing, and this was just making me more anxious.

So this is watching all the time?

Yeah, because I was like, it's, like, really high. It's like 160 over 170 over, like, 90. 170 over 100. I was like, damn. So I remember making a decision, like, you know what? I'm not gonna drink anymore. I'm not gonna ever drink again. Right? That. That. That. March 19th. So the next day. The next day, I remember buying that night, I bought some alcohol, and I didn't drink it, but I was like, just in case I freak out or something or I can't take it. I'm gonna just take a shot or something.

Okay?

It was. It was. It was a Pint of Crown. Crown Royal apple. You should drink that around the time. The Crown Royal apple. Not a pint, a fifth of it. And I remember, like, just freak. Like, my body just went, like, crazy, crazy. So I end up going to the hospital. He's like, what's going on? I was like, I don't know. I'm feeling weird. I'm shaking. It's all of this stuff. And he was like, do you drink or smoke? I was like, yeah, I drink. He was like, when last time you had a drink? I was like, yesterday. He was like, how much do you drink? And I told him. He was like, you withdrawing from alcohol?

What did you think? Right then? Well, stop right there. When he said, you're in withdrawal, what did you think? Did you know you were in withdrawal or were you.

No, I thought I was probably having a panic attack or something.

Okay.

Which I probably was. But yeah. So he was like, you probably withdrawing from alcohol. And so I'm sitting there, it's like, it's that serious? Like, this, Like, I'm like, this is pretty serious. Like, this is bad. So he gave me some Ativan. He's like, you got to take this for the next day, the next week. I think it's called Ativan or something like that.

It's a benzodiazepine. It's like a Xanax.

Yes. He gave me seven of those. Take it. No, he gave me, I think, enough for twice a day for a week or something like that. It's like, take this. That's where you don't have seizures or nothing. And you gotta. You gotta stop, man, because your blood pressure is high, and it's. You know, you at that age, it's gonna start affecting you. And so I remember sitting in the. In. In the hospital, and I was like, I'm done. If it's this serious. Hell no. Because I don't want to feel like that again, so.

Well, let me ask you this. Most people that I see in that situation, they would think, okay, I'm gonna cut it back. But you thought, I'm done with it. Why didn't you cut it back?

Because it's like, it's. It's getting in the way of my health. I'm noticing. I'm. I'm starting to notice around this time. I'm starting to notice that taking things. I'm going there with women, let's say, like, if a woman would make me mad, I would, like, argue with her and try to, like, get closure and all of this, right? And I'm not like that. Like, if under, like, it made my behavior worse, that was like more unattractive. Right. And so me and my kids mom would have like little arguments and stuff like that. And you know, this is going on, then I'm seeing my health. And as I explained to you, like behind the scenes how my mentality of, I want to be. I don't want to be that guy. I want to be the strong guy. I want to be the guy that has the edge above everybody else in the room. I want to be the guy that, you know. You know, I want to be in control of everything. And then feeling this, like, if alcohol is making me do this and making me feel this way, I'm done. I'm. I'm not doing that no more. I'm try to quit it right here.

So there's like several pieces. There's the. There's a bunch of competitive part of you, Right. You're part of your personality. Then there's the, like, I don't like what this is doing to me physically, and I don't like the person it's turning me into.

Exactly.

And that. That part of you that wants to sort of conquer things or be stronger than things, that's the part of you that said, I want to be done with this.

I'm gonna be done with this.

Okay.

I was in for a wild ride. I didn't realize what I was in for, but I definitely didn't want that.

Okay.

I definitely didn't want that because I like to. I don't want for people to see me or think about me. And it's like, you know, I. They look at me in a negative light or that I can't control myself or, you know, I like to. I don't know. Again, I like to be the top guy. And I feel like I can't be like that. I felt like I can't really be like that if this is in my way.

See, I like it because a lot of people really resist the idea of stopping because they feel like they're being controlled. Like if someone says you need to stop or something, but you decided the alcohol was controlling and you didn't want to be controlled, so you kind of looked at it, but reverse, right? And so one of the reasons I wanted you to share your story is because, as I say on this channel all the time, there's a lot of different ways people quit. Some people go to treatment, some people go to counseling, Some people go to 12 step means. And some people decide to stop and Dre decided to stop. And you might be thinking to yourself, well, he didn't really have it. He really had it. Like, he showed up in the emergency room and withdrawal. Okay, so that's the evidence that alcohol had a hold of you.

Yes.

Physically, for sure. Right. Okay. But you decided that's it. I'm done now. That's not the end of the story. Right. Because you said you went through some stuff. Tell us what you went through.

So with that, I felt. I figured, okay, because I had more vices, cigarettes and caffeine. So I'm at this low point, pretty much scared every single day. Like, at the height of, like, it was. That was a rough time, because now I'm dealing with my issues, all my issues from my 20s, because I lived a rough life. You know, I didn't live in the best of way that people should live. So I started dealing with stuff like that, dealing with the issues, you know, healing, like, trying to heal from, you know, moving on from my kids, Mom. Like, all of this stuff. I'm broke. I don't have a purpose in my life. Like, all of this stuff. I'm in my 30s. I'm flat broke. My kids depend on me. Like, all of this is now. Like, I don't have the alcohol to make me feel better at night anymore. And so I feel, like, low. Feeling really low. And I said, okay, this is the time to stop smoking cigarettes and drinking hell caffeine and truly get healthy. And so I made the decision a few weeks later to cold turkey the cigarettes and the caffeine.

Okay, hold on. Hold on. This is interesting, Dre. Okay, like, hold on. You're like, I'm at the lowest point. I just. My life sucks. I'm dealing with crap. I feel like crap. You know, my. My financial life's not in order. My emotional life's not in order. I think now's a good time to give up caffeine and nicotine. Now. A lot of people are gonna be watching, thinking, I'm not cracking you here, so you're gonna have to stop and explain that to us a little better.

I know it sounds. The logic sounds crazy, right? But my. Sorry, that was my computer. Sorry. The logic sounds crazy, but in my mind, my thought process was like, well, I would rather get it over with now than to overcome this and be on a high and, you know, up. And then I have to crash down and be down here again. So while I'm down here, let me just cut this now.

Let's just do it once. Rip the band Aid off. Okay.

Just rip it all off right now and just feel it. I'm not gonna say it was a mistake, but I didn't know what I was in for.

That was. It was brave. I can say that.

Yeah. So I did that. And the cigarettes was actually worse than the alcohol as far as, like, not the physical parts, because out quitting alcohol has physical consequences. Like, physical. But as far as, like, the mental aspect. The mental. Even some physical. But there's not a physical danger that comes with, you know, you can die from.

Right.

Alcohol withdrawal. I don't think you can die from withdrawing from nicotine, but this is very uncomfortable physical symptoms. But the mental part was, like, 100 times worse than alcohol.

Wow.

And so, yeah, I would be, like, driving in the car, and I was just, like, break down, like, crying, like, feeling like, the absolute bottom barrel of just crying, like, boohoo. Crying, like, in the car. Just like, what the hell? Like, it's weird and scary, but it was pretty bad. Anxiety was, like, through the roof. Every single day. Every day.

You must have felt like you were going crazy.

Yeah, I did. I did. I felt. I felt for a while. I felt crazy. Very crazy. But I knew. I knew that it was a. I didn't know why, but I knew it was for a reason. Like, this ain't. This is not a coincidence. So I'm either paying for something that I did in my past right now, or I'm doing, like, there's a reason for this. Like, maybe it's to be a role model for my kids or something.

Okay.

But there's a reason right outside of me wanting to be strong, me wanting to be the best version of myself, me wanting to be healthy, me not wanting to, you know, damage my body beyond repair outside of this, I knew deep down. And, like, I'm probably paying for something that I did in my 20s, right? As far as, like, the way I used to live. Or you thought.

You thought karma was getting you.

Yeah, I was something because I was like, there's no way. Like. And I'm thinking, like, how do people live sober? Like, how do people. Right? Even, like, without nicotine, people don't realize. Like, nicotine, it doesn't give you a high. It doesn't make you woozy, but it's very, very strong, and it's very powerful. So, you know, again, I was just, like, it was rough. It was very, very, very rough.

Did you have any relapses? Like, did you.

I'm like, I would never. I ain't. I don't never Want to go through that again. Like, the, the urge to. That was too, too much not to say that I can't get through it, but I'm not. It's not even worth it to go through that again.

Yeah. I just want to do this once. I don't want to have to start. I don't want to have to go back in here. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, it was. Now, there have been times to where I've thought, like, I've been going through something rough or dealing with something. It's like a cigarette will make me feel better right now. But it didn't make me like, oh, I didn't have to. Like, when you searching for answers or you trying to calm yourself down, you know, like, man, if I had a cigarette, this would be all over with. But I didn't get the urge to go. Like, I didn't have to stop myself from doing it.

It's like an automatic thought.

Yeah. It's just like, because you feeling. With me, it was like you feeling bad about not having a solution or you feeling bad that just you made yourself this anxious or, you know, you on the verge of panic or, you know, you this upset and you trying to figure it out. Because for me, I felt like again, I felt like a kid when I stopped doing all that. I felt like a kid again, like not knowing how to process stuff. And so there would be times where I was like, if I had a cigarette, I wouldn't even be feeling like this.

Right.

Because you, you try to. You're on a journey to try to figure out how not to let yourself get to this point or to even process this. So I had those moments, but it didn't make me want to do it again.

You had the bigger picture in mind, so somehow you were able to sort of get through the really hard moments by staying focused on the big picture.

Yes.

And what you wanted. Okay. How long. How long did that. How long did you feel that way? Like, how long did it go on? How long before you felt better at all or did you.

Probably from that lowest, lowest point was probably a couple months. So this was around March and April. It was probably around June or July, because I remember if you go back and look anybody, that's. If many of my supporters here, if any of my supporters are here, they'll know I took a lapse in my content. Okay. A few months. This is when I first started. And I came back around June or July. So from, let's say April, May ish. To June, July. So maybe March, April, May, three To four months. And then I started to kind of, all right, we gotta. We got to do something, Jim. We gotta continue making this content. We have to, you know, do something. And I remember coming back and doing the first video back. Everybody I had, I didn't have a big following in, but the people who did follow, like, man, we glad you back and all of this. So even that, like, stuff like that keeps me, you know, kept me, like, going and made me feel better. And I started to. From there, my life started to go, like, uphill, at least financially.

Now, what do you. How do you. What's the connection there for you between. I stopped these things and life got better for me financially.

Alcohol is 40 bucks a day. I smoked American Spirits, which was like 850 a pack. Where I'm at the light green American Spirits. I smoke those every day. So that's damn near 50 a day. You feel it instantly. Especially like now where I'm at financially, you, like, it's hard to tell, right? I'm not like, bragging, but it would be hard to notice that. But at that time, I was like, extreme. I was flat broke. I. You started to notice it instantly. Financially.

I'm getting my calculator out. I have to do this. Hold on, hold on. So it's 50 a day times 30 days a month. 1500 dollars a month times 12. Wow.

At the end of the year. By the end of the year, like, it made it. You can completely.

Times 12 is. Is 18,000.

Yes.

Wow. Gosh. Okay. That makes some sense. Okay.

I think about. I think about stuff like that.

Okay. All right. Do you think it. Your financial situation, did it get better? Because were you more in the game? Were you a better version of yourself yet or not yet?

Yeah, all. All of the above.

All the above. Okay.

All of the above. It was like, I'm more level headed, I'm more clear. I can think better. I have a, you know, I can breathe better. I can, you know, I'm working out. I was just. Can budget more. I got this extra 50 a day that I can literally see piling up. Yes. It's just. It was. It was a bunch of different stuff all at the same time. Basically. It was a bunch of different stuff, but yeah, it was up from there.

Basically, the momentum started to. Got traction and momentum in the right direction. Just like you can get traction and momentum in the wrong direction.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, that. And that was motivational too. Like seeing like, oh, I'm getting myself back.

Okay. And so do you. Do you think you hit a Bottom. I'm sure you've heard that term. People use that term a lot. Like, would you use that term for you, or would you not use that term for you?

Hit a bottom. As far as what?

As far as, like, the drinking, because that was the first thing you stop that. And then the nicotine, all that. Like, would you use that term for yourself or no?

Yeah, that's what I felt like. I'm at the bottom. Like, this is the lowest point of my life ever.

Before you start. Like when you ended up in the emergency room, you mean?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Because it wasn't just that, but all the other life things that were happening, too. Like, life was not working.

Yeah, it was. It was bad. But I. But my mother raised me. Like, everything that happens to you is your fault.

Okay?

So, like, I'm naturally, like, not a blamer. Like, to. She just. She would not let me blame nobody else but myself. And so I naturally had that. Like, I can't. I couldn't point the finger. And, like, my life is shitty because of the choices that I have been making over the last few years. This is why my life is like this. And I'm the only person that can fix it. There's nobody else can fix it but me. And I have people to depend on, and I want to show them that. I have people that depend on me, and I want to show them. Right. I have. I'm doing my coaching thing and everything. I have guys following me. Of course, it's way bigger now, but even I have guys following me. I have a following and I have children. So, you know, I. They need to see this, and I need to. I have to get over it.

So it's sort of a combination of taking accountability, which is something you were raised to do, is to be accountable for everything in your life, which is huge. I really hope the people listening really hear that, because that. I feel like that's the key difference between why you made the decision and got better. It's that accountability piece. And then there was also this mix in there of I need to be a leader. I need to be a leader for my children. I need to be a leader for the people that follow me. I need to step up.

Right?

Okay.

Yes. Yes. And I wanted to be healthy. It's a lot of stuff. I. Can I say this?

You say whatever you want.

I don't want to run out of breath when I'm having sex. None of this stuff. Because I started to get healthy, and I was performing better, too. So all of this stuff was like, it's a bunch of stuff. It's a lot of it.

Watch me. There's no bad reason. Any reason is a good reason to stop, and that's a good one.

There's no bad head. I know we didn't talk about that before, but that just popped in my head. Like, I remember thinking that, like, you know, you're smoking all the time, you get winded, and you can't really perform. It's not really for her, but it's just for yourself, Right? Your gym, even performing in the gym, you don't get. You know, you. You can't go. As long as, you know, once I quit a couple months later, I was walking up 30, 40 flights of stairs on the. On the thing. So I was just a good feeling.

Okay. Any reason's a good reason. And a lot of family members watch, and I always say, find out what the. What their reasons are, because they may have different reasons than you, and their reasons are more important. And so for you, it was about feeling physically healthy. It was about bringing your A game, I think.

Yes.

And in all the different directions.

Yes.

What was the hardest part?

The mental part. The anxiety, the panic attacks, and that was just. It's rough.

Did that get better?

Yeah, it. It. Yeah. Yeah, it did. It started to get better. Started to get better. And then Covet changed everything. Covet put everything shot. Watch out. Back up. Shot Covet. I was talking to my producer. Sorry. Covet changed everything around. The silver lining in the COVID was I was able to, you know, do therapy, and. And even then, I was able to focus now, and my business then went to, like, to the next level. But, yeah, Covet kind of. I was doing a lot better. Everything was going good. And then Covid hit. For some reason, that just brought everything back pretty much. I felt like it wasn't as intense, but I was on a low to the point. I was like, I need to get therapy or something. I gotta do something.

Because you were telling me that before we went live, which was. You didn't. Because I was asking Dre, you didn't go to treatment. He didn't go to counseling. He didn't go to aa. He didn't go to Smart Recovery. He didn't do any of those things, other than your doctor gave you seven days worth of medicine to help you get through withdrawal a little bit. And other than that. But you did end up going to therapy, but it wasn't for to stop the alcohol or the nicotine or the caffeine.

It was so anxious. Why does my brain get so anxious? And so we started going that, you know, that takes you back into the childhoods and the, you know, the decisions you make in your twenties and stuff like that. So that's what basically what that was about. But, you know, I was on a journey to figure out, you know, why do I cling to alcohol or cigarette, like, why I know why I started smoking cigarettes. I remember today. I remember it like it was yesterday, but, like, why. Why am I so addicted to that type of stuff?

So tell us why you start smoking cigarettes then.

I got in trouble in school. I wasn't the best student. I wasn't the model student in school. Got in some trouble. And when I was starting to become very delinquent as a teenager, and my mom's boyfriend, which is her husband now, at the time, I didn't like him. Didn't see eye to eye with him. Just getting in trouble in school. Didn't want to really hear his mouth. Because at that time, I felt like I was a man in the house. Like, I'm the man of the house. My dad was in prison, so I was like, go live with my grandmother, right? So I go live with my grandma, and we watching a job, we watching tv. I'm not. She's like, you gotta register for school. You gotta go back to school, or you gotta do something. But you're not gonna sit in my house and do nothing all day. You're not gonna sit in my house and just eat up my food and not contribute and do nothing. I'm not tolerating that. She got through something. And as she's saying this, the Job Corps commercial comes on. As she's saying this, she's like, that's it right there. So the next day, we went to the Job Corps office. The man was like, where do you want to go? You can pick Kentucky. I think it was Kentucky, Georgia, or Miami, of course. I was like, well, where's the one in Miami? And he told me where it was at. I was like, I want to go to the one in Miami. Because all of the other ones was, like, in the sticks and in the woods and, like, in the country parts. But the one in Miami was, like, in the city. And I didn't want to be in the country. I wanted to be amongst the happening stuff.

Okay?

This was my mentality. So I picked Miami. It was my first choice. He was like, well, it's a wait list for that. I was like, okay, cool. So I think the wait list was probably three or four months or something. Like that. So at this, we leave, we sign up for it, we leave. And it's. School is starting to. It's. It's about to be August and I got to go back to school. So I go back to my mother's house to go back to my high school that I went to, right? And I slight, you know, I learned my lesson. I'm, you know, I'm gonna be respectful. It's not that I was disrespectful, but, you know, I'm gonna make sure I'm doing everything to everything that I need to be doing. Get in trouble, get us a big trouble.

And.

The police end up getting involved. This incident, the police end up getting involved. So I go home one day and the police is there and all this type of stuff get into trouble, the police is there. Luckily, my mom's husband, like, he was. He worked in law enforcement, so. But he wasn't a deputy, but he worked like office stuff. So. But he knew all of the cops. His best friend was a cop, his brother was a cop. So they kind of cut me some slack, right? So when they left, the phone rang. And this was before cell phones. The phone rang, was calling house, and I picked up. It was like, hey, man, we got you. Ready to go to job Corps. We got you, we got your spot. You leave such and such and such. I was like, nah, I don't want to go to job Corps. I'm good. I'm gonna just stay at school and finish school. Mother was home and, you know, when her phone rings, she wants to know, who is it? She looks at caller id this again, this is pre cell phones. So she's like, who was that? I was like, oh, it was the job corps man. And she was like, well, what did he want? I was like, oh, well, they was just saying that, you know, it's time for me to go. But I told him, you know, I didn't want to go no more. I'm gonna stay in school. She was like, oh, no. The hell no, you're not. This was on a Thursday. On a Thursday. My cousin is laughing. It's my producer. He's laughing because he know my mom.

I can picture it. I don't even know her and I can picture it.

She's like, oh, no, no, that's not. No, we're not doing that. You gotta get. You got to do something with your life. This was on a Wednesday, I think Thursday I had to go sign up and sign myself out of school. Friday we did my goodbyes at school. Monday, I was on a greyhound. It was that fast. It was that fast. I'm in a whole new city by myself. I'm on a greyhound by myself. And you know, the greyhounds, they stop in all of these little towns. They stop in all of these little towns. I'm in Florida, Tampa, Florida. So we stop and I think Punta Gorda, Florida, right? Which is probably 45 minutes south. See this white guy, this guy, older white guy, smoking a cigarette. In my mind, you know, this was when they were smoking restaurants and you could smoke in restaurants. They had cigarette ads and all of this back then. So you see this stuff as a kid when you're mad, you're angry. Cigarette. And so. Or when you're stressed out, cigarettes. So I'm telling my 17 year old self I'm stressed out. And I see that guy smoking a cigarette. I was like, hey man, I give you a dollar for a cigarette. And he gave me the cigarettes. The best feeling I ever felt. That one time. I never got that feeling again. And that's how I started smoking cigarettes. 17 years old, and because I was stressed out from like being uprooted from my situation. So fast, drop of a dime, like Wednesday, that Monday I was on, and then I was like nervous because I was going to another city by myself and I was gonna have to live down in like, no family or nothing. So I smoked that cigarette. And I smoked cigarettes every day for seven years, besides seven months when I was in jail. And in our county jails, you couldn't smoke cigarettes back then. I end up going to prison. And as soon as I got to prison, I smoked, I started smoking again, so. But I smoked from 17 -7 months all the way up until 33 or 34 years old.

That's an interesting story, Jay, because I really didn't expect you to say that. It's kind of funny because I. You're making me look bad because sometimes I say people, people don't usually start using substances to cope because you don't think to use a substance to cope unless you already use a substance. But you did, you know, you don't. It doesn't occur to you like I'm gonna smoke a cigarette because I'm stressed out unless you smoke cigarettes. But it did for you in that moment?

Yeah, I just. You see it in the commercials. My grandma used to smoke when I was a kid. She ended up stopping. She stopped for me, actually, because I was a kid. I told, I was like, you're gonna die if you keep smoking. And she stopped smoking.

Did she get mad at you when you started smoking?

No, I was not really. No. But she always said she would tell me, you need to stop or you're gonna die. Like, same thing you told me. But, you know, whenever I would see my grandma mad or something like that, she would go outside and smoke a cigarette. So you just see these images as a kid, your whole life. You see in the commercials, you seeing all of this stuff. And so I thought that I'm stressed out. Hey, man, can I get a cigarette? I gave you a dollar. I gave him four quarters for a.

Cigarette, and it worked. You said it was the best feeling you ever had. The first time.

Yeah. I wasn't nervous about going down there. I just felt better instantly. Instantly. And it was like the first cigarette. Anybody smoke cigarettes? Not if you never get that buzz again. You get a little cigarette buzz, you'll never get it again. So I got this cigarette buzz. And, yeah, it was. The rest was history for me. I smoked a pack a day for 17 years.

Wow. For those of you who are watching live, I see some comments coming through. Somebody said, are we live? Because they're not answering our comments. We are going to get to your comments. I don't know. Do you have time to answer a few questions? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. If you have a question for Dre. If you don't, if you don't mind, put some question marks beside it. Because it's hard for me to read the comments and decide because everybody talks to each other, and I can't decide who's talking to me and talking to each other. Put some question marks on there and put your question up there for Dre, and we'll. We'll see if he's got time to. To answer it for you while they put their questions in there, because there's a little lag. Are you. Do you think it was worth it, all the hard that you went through? Are you glad you did it?

Hell, yeah.

Okay.

Hell, yeah.

What are the best benefits, you think, to sort of taking all those substances out? Somebody's thinking. If somebody's watching and they're thinking about it, what would you tell them?

It makes you stronger. It makes you stronger, and that stronger. That strength is very attractive to not only the opposite sex or women, especially as a man. That strength, for me, is not only attractive to. To women, but to opportunity. You know, when people see you, that strength, that clarity, opportunity tends to come.

Your way because it makes you feel better about you, which then attracts all of those things.

Exactly.

I love it. Okay, Got it. For. And. And since you said that, I will say, for those of you who are just now meeting Dre, he does have a YouTube channel. Tell them what your channel is called.

It's called the Captain Saver Bro Show. It's a little run.

Tell them what? Tell them what? You Tell them what you talk about on your channel.

I talk about inter gender dynamics between men and women, but I'm on the man's side.

That was super fancy.

Yeah.

Wait a second. He teaches. He teaches men how to deal with women.

Yeah. How did I teach men how to deal with women? Right. From a man's perspective, Because I don't like to see men get taken advantage of. I don't like for men to be hurt. I don't like for men to be down in the dumps, and I don't like for men to be feeling how I felt at one point in time. Not that my kid's mother took advantage of me, but I was. That felt horrible.

Heartbroken.

Yeah, heartbroken. It wasn't the first time, but that one was a little different. I've always got my heart broke. If you play, you get burned. Especially the way I play, you get burned. But that one was different because, you know, I was, in my mind, trying to do the right thing this time. So I. I just don't. I don't like for guys to feel like that. And I had this girl that I was dealing with, and make a long story short, she has kind of always been my girl. Not like my main girl, but, like, she's always been in love with me. But, you know, she would have her little relationships, and the guy that she was with was, like, so good. On paper. Like, on paper, he was, like, perfect, but I just had it. And she was breaking up with him anyway. That was already. But he kind of got wind of what was going on. He was very hurt, and I felt very bad for him because he was, on paper, he was doing everything right. I feel extremely, extremely bad for this guy. So that coupled with, you know, everything else and me, like, wanting to have a purpose in life and stuff like that, that's when I started to make content to help men navigate women. Because I realized not everybody knew how to navigate women. Like, I thought I knew how to navigate women. So, yeah, that's basically what it's about. Basically. In a locker room.

Yeah. And so when you. If you guys check out Dre's channel, those of you who are not familiar with him, the language on there is real.

Oh, yeah.

And I like what you said. You You. You talk to men like men talk in the locker room. So just telling y' all now if you're super sensitive, but. But what Dre has to say over there. You had the video that I came across, you guys, that I watched of Dre's. That first one. Because obviously, I'm not a man trying to figure out how to pick up women, so. But he. There was a video that came up and said seven lessons or something like that. I wish my father taught me.

Right.

Everything you said on there resonated with me. Now, I reached out to you because of what you said about the alcohol, which I think really was just sort of a happenstance in these other lessons that you were. That you were talking about, right? Yeah.

Yeah. You want to tell them what I said?

Which one? Oh, the part. The alcohol part. Yes. I'm glad you said that. The thing Dre said about the alcohol, I literally stopped the video. I went in and got a pattern paper out of the kitchen and wrote down. He said. He said. Because what Dre said on the video was, if you. If you are drinking alcohol to do something, you either don't need to be doing it, you're just drinking alcohol to make your conscious feel okay about doing it, you need to stop doing it, or you need to get brave enough to do it without the alcohol. And I thought, man, that's like gold right there. I stopped and wrote that down because I liked it, and that's what made me reach out to you. Tell us about that philosophy.

Yeah. We drink to ease anxiety, erase fears, and lower our inhibitions. Right. And we tend to make crazy decisions when we do such. And based on, you know, my channel is based around dealing with women. A lot of the guys need alcohol to go approach a woman and talk, so their only way of scoring girls, so to speak, is meeting them at bars or clubs where alcohol is present, because they would. They don't have to balls to go approach a woman in the store. And so. But when you meet women who. Partying all the time, you know, you get something that you don't typically want, right? So the thing behind that was, you know, develop the courage to do things, and you don't need the alcohol, right? And if you need the alcohol to lower your inhibitions to do something, then you shouldn't be doing that. That's something that you shouldn't be doing. And that piece was basically. A lot of the times, even when I looked up back on my life, a lot of the women that I slept with or that I dealt with at some point in the beginning involved alcohol. Not all, but a lot of it. So you go on a date with a woman, you meet a woman at the store, and you talk, you talk and you know, hey, let's go out to get something to eat. So you go that first date, there's always drinks involved, right? So what happens when the drinks involved? It's like, okay, he's cute, I'll do it right. If everything goes how it should be go. If I'm doing everything, everything goes how it should go. And I'm doing everything that I, I need to be doing as far as attraction wise and seduction wise and blah, blah, blah. For me, the alcohol kind of takes away from the skill level. And so when I stopped drinking alcohol, I noticed that I had to kind of rely on me now. And it felt better to seduce a woman or she liked me enough to take it there with me. That felt much better because it was all natural. There was no influences. Her inhibitions wasn't lowered with a glass of wine. And it's naturally and it's raw. And when that happens, and I'm trying to, because I know you have a lot of women watching when that, when that, when that happens and you know, you intertwine with each other, it feels a lot better.

It's genuine. It's genuine on your part. It's genuine. It's natural, right. It's happening because the chemistry is there. It's happening. Right.

And I challenged the guys to, to try that instead of throwing alcohol in the mix. So that's what that, as far as that piece she was talking, that was the thought process behind everything that I said.

And that's a big issue because I see a lot of people in the early days of sobriety and the whole, like, how do I be social? How do I date and be sober? That's a big issue. People, yeah. Deal with, you know, how do I say I don't drink and how do I talk to a woman and how do I navigate, you know, all these situations? That's a real thing that a lot of people have to figure out.

You're a woman. If you're a woman, it's much more attractive to a man. If you don't trust me, because I tell men to stay away from women who drink. If, if you're a woman and you drink, it's you much more appealing to a man if you don't drink. Right.

Okay.

And if you're a man who don't drink, you shouldn't be care what a woman because I've like, I tell women, you don't drink. Oh, you don't drink. Okay. And like, I don't care what you think. Like, you know, yeah. It just. People look at you again like you stronger and that's. That strength is attractive to people. You see most the guys that they was dealing with before, you know, every time he get off of work, he got to drink beer or he can't function like they. A woman may be coming from that versus to see me. I have my stuff together. I have my life together. I don't depend on caffeine to keep me going throughout the day. I don't depend on nicotine to, like, deal with my emotions. And I don't depend on alcohol to make me courage, give me courage, or to make me, you know, kill my conscience in the moment. So I noticed to a lot of women, I was. It was very attractive.

Right.

It's positives on both sides now.

I would agree exactly what you said about to women. You said it's. It's attractive if women don't drink. It's a good quality. I would say it's the same way in reverse. I think it's attractive quality. The only time it's not is if a woman has a problem with drinking herself and so she doesn't want to be with a man that. That doesn't drink because she can't not drink. So the only time that's really an issue is if somebody has their own problem with it. With it.

Right. And I've run into that too. And that's just. I don't need you in my life. That's it. I'm glad that we don't. We're not on the same page.

Okay.

That's not what I want in my life anyway. So this just works out perfectly.

Right. Kind of screens in the right ones and out the wrong ones.

Yes.

I'm gonna scroll through here just a second, if that's okay. And we're going to take a couple questions. We sure appreciate your time. We don't want to hold you forever. Let's see. Anthony says, how did you get back to YouTube and get back into the groove? I'm having issues with mine, and I do advocate stuff like, how'd you get yourself motivated to be back in the game?

I just was laying around, kind of like feeling sorry for myself. And I remember thinking, like, you got to finish what you started. Because all my life I like start stuff and I don't finish it. So it's like, just get back to it. Just get back to it. And the minute I did, I got the validation from it, which is, you know, we do things for validation, you know, for people to tell you, doing a good job. You changed my life. And the minute I came back on the emails came, the DMs came, man, I'm glad you're back. They didn't know what was going on. I explained later, but they didn't really know what was going on. But. And again, my following wasn't. Wasn't that big, but it was intimate enough for me to notice people because now I'm at.

Like, they cared that you were gone and they're glad that you're back.

Yes. Yeah. So I just, I just remember one day, like, man, Just, just go do it. And I also do remember too. I'm thinking now I remember getting an email that kind of like triggered me kind of triggered too. So there's a bunch of stuff, but I got an email that was very triggering. A guy that was going through something and I was like, I gotta, I gotta shake this off and go do that. But once I did that, I was.

Itself. The dopamines come back in all the brain chemistry and all that.

Yes, yes.

Francis, got a question. She says, do you miss the warm, fuzzy blanket of addiction?

I'm gonna be honest, completely honest. It didn't even feel like addiction. So I don't know, like, I guess I was delusional and thinking, like, I'm different and I'm better than everybody else. I'm not like that. So in my mind then, I didn't look at it like that. Like it wasn't a warm, fuzzy type of, like, blanket. But I do. If, if I'm understanding the. Correction the question correctly, there are times where I miss not being anxious and having to deal with my anxiousness because it's. If you're drinking or smoking, it's easy to deal with being anxious. It's easy to deal with fear. Like, I do launches, right? Some of the most stressful things anybody in marketing could do. Like the way I launch my courses, I do like five day launches prepared for 30 days. And how good you do that year depends on five days.

You gotta bring it all in for five days.

Yeah, very stressful. And it's just like, you know, I know that if I had cigarettes, it would be. I wouldn't have to deal with my bone, my muscles twitching because I get anxious. Sometimes my muscles twitch, bicep twist on my chest twitch. Or like, not shortness of breath, but you feel like you're Smothering. Sometimes the headaches, the. The stiff bones, like, just feeling like that, the stomach, you know? Not that I miss it. It's not like I miss it, but sometimes, like, it'd be nice if I didn't have.

There's a relief that comes with those substances. Right. And so you. Sometimes it's easy to want to be like I miss, man. Be easy. It sure would be nice right now, that relief.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's not like I long for it or miss it or. Or some warm fuzzy because I didn't look at. It was like an addiction. But I. I think I understand the question. Yeah, yeah. Not miss. But sometimes you do think, like. Well, again, like I said, I don't know if it was before we talked or I meant before we got live. But, you know, like, If I had this, I wouldn't be feeling like that, basically. But it doesn't make me want to go do that.

Right. You know, because the feeling you get from doing it yourself, feeling strong, feeling good about yourself, does it override that other feeling? Is that what it is?

Yeah. And I was getting ready to say that. We tend to think that the substances only override the negative emotions, which is anger and fear and anxiety and depression, but it also suppresses the positive emotions, the. The joy and, you know, excitement. Like, when I get excitement, it's like. It feels crazy. Like, the first time I got excited, like, sober, it felt like crazy. I felt like a little kid. But it feels good. Like when you get something or like when I do my launches and they going good. Like, that whole week is, like, the biggest high ever. Like, my stripe is just going off all day. All day. Strike. 797. 797. 797. It's just, like. It feels good. I noticed, like, when I was, like, my whole life, it was kind of dull. Like, just.

Yep.

It's, like, dull.

I think that's a good point, because when you choose to put the cap on it, you don't get to just put the cap on this and not that. You putting the cap on it. Right. And you got you closing the door to all of it. I'm really glad you said that. That's a great point. Yeah. Let's see. Jimmy's got a question. Jimmy says, hey, Dre, do you think young guys being addicted to porn stems from the same thing as alcohol and drugs? Yes.

Yes. Yes. Quit. Quit it. I mean, yes. Let the porn go, man. I'm conscious because there's women watching me, but screw it.

You can just say whatever you want to say. The women watching have been through some stuff. We can handle it. So go ahead.

But my advice is going to sound crazy.

Okay?

Now go do it naturally. Go get laid, bro. Like, you have the urges. You young. Go get laid. I'm not telling you to, like, you know, be irresponsible, but challenge yourself to go get laid, because that's what you want to do anyway. That's why you. That's why you jerking off, because it's. It's cheap, it's easy. But you cheat yourself when you do that.

I would. I would add to what Dre says. I agree. Because when you get addicted to pornography, you lose the ability to be with people in real life. And so you're cheating yourself of the whole thing, right? So, Right?

So you go, how? How? Let's say you 20 years old and you whacking off three times a day for 10 years. Now you 30, right? You don't even know how to deal with women. You don't know what come with women. You don't know how to deal with the nuances of women. You don't know how to attract women. But you want a family. Now what are you gonna do? So you cheating yourself of the experiences by doing. Taking the easy way out. Just go. Face fear in the face. Face rejection. The worst a woman can tell you is no. Go talk to the women you want to talk to. Learn. That's what I do anyway. I teach men how to do stuff like that. So just go do it. Trust me, while you're young, and get over that now. Because you're gonna cheat yourself. And when it matters, when you want that family, when you. You know, when you want that family, when you want that wife, when you want that kids. Those kids. A solid, decent woman is not going to find you attractive. The only type of women who are going to find you attractive are the exploiters. And they're going to come for you, and it's just going to make everything worse. So now you have a woman who's an explorer, and you don't know how to deal with it.

Right? That's a good point. So you can only attract a person as healthy as you are. Exactly right.

So, yeah, go get laid. My brother.

Violet says, what's the name of your channel? Tell them again.

The Captain Save a brochure.

Captain Save a bro.

Captain Save a brochure.

Saska says, did you ever consider joining aa?

At one point, yeah. But I was just like, yeah, I remember it. It was, like, fleeting, though. It Was probably one day I was thinking about like maybe I should join a AA meeting or something. This was like when I first started, like when I first quit, probably a couple weeks after that. But that didn't really last long. I don't know what stopped me. It's like I don't want to go in there talking to other people like. And I just didn't. I didn't think about it no more. But I did think about it one time.

Charlotte says, how did you manage to stay employed when you drank that much?

I had my own thing going. That was after. That was after. See I had a warehouse job. It was a very shitty job. I just drank after I got off work. When it was string. After I got off work at that time I had a warehouse job. I remember it was horrible. The worst job ever. And I. After I got off and before then that was another warehouse job. So it was like a year and a half of warehouse shitty warehouse work. But during that time I just. When I got off work I drank then drank. Chill with a lady, you know, chill with a woman or whatever and just drink and then get up. But I would be so like tired. Do I need Red Bulls? The next day like my sleep wasn't good. I snored really bad. That's another thing. When you stop drinking and smoking, you to just sleep at the best. The best sleep ever is you get very, very good satisfying sleep.

Right. Because you can drink alcohol make you go to sleep, but you don't get dream sleep, you don't get restorative sleep. So you're not really sleeping.

Yeah. And I was thinking this help me go to sleep. So I drinking it I. Drinking is pass out, right.

But it's not. You don't get there.

You don't get that restorative con.

Right? That's right.

Yeah. So yeah, I just. I'm not a type of person that likes to like. I like to do my own thing so that the working for that warehouse didn't pretty. It didn't last long anyway because I ended up quitting. And it's not really because of alcohol. It was just I figured out how to make money for myself at that time. At that time what, what led me to the warehouses was because again I spent my whole 20s doing bad illegal stuff. Teens and 20s. So I didn't develop skills, college or nothing like that. So when I got older I didn't have. I didn't have the paper to order the qualifications or develop any skills. So I had to do work. But I still had to. I want to be my own boss mentality always. Like, I want to work for myself. I don't like working for people. I don't want to contribute to somebody else's greatness. I want to contribute to my own and build my own empire. So the warehouse thing, the working thing, didn't last long because I figured out, you know, something after that, you know, it's kind of started my own thing right after that.

Ava says, what do you think about someone replacing an alcohol addiction with a weed addiction?

If. If that's a one. Listen, I'm gonna just say from a man, and it's no offense. Weed does not make you look good in a man's eyes. Like, yeah, we. Weed is not good. It's not.

And I'm kind of biased, maybe asking for herself, but we have a lot of family members that watch. Yes. And I'm not sure. I don't know why she's asking, but it's possible.

I mean, you just. You take them, okay? Instead of you damaging your liver, you're damaging your lungs now you're damaging your heart now. You're still killing your body. You know, you're still messing with your brain. So just kick it. It's not gonna last long. Like, it's. You'll get over it.

That intense, comfortable. But it'll get better.

It'll get better. Just get a support system or if you got to go to an inpatient or do something, get around people for support. But it's worth it to not just keep switching, because that's what I did. Okay? I ain't gonna smoke the cigarette, so I'm gonna just do the vapes and stop the vapes. It's not as black and miles, right? But I'm smoking 10 black and miles a day. I ain't gonna do the alcohol. I'm gonna do beer now or this or that. So just replace it with something the.

Same way so you can skip it and just get to the end, right? Just like Dre just said, I'm gonna be doing all of it, Right? This we did. Charlotte's asking, can I add your link to YouTube? I will definitely. I will add it in the description and in the comments so you guys can get the link to hear more wisdom from Dre. And we're gonna. We'll take this question. Last question from Leslie. Leslie wants to know, what's your advice on when to leave an alcoholic man?

The. The. The. The. The right part of my brain says, you know, stay there and support him and all that, but it's going to take for you leaving, he gonna have to take feel lost. Because as long as you enabling him, he's not going to change. And it's just gonna only get worse and worse and worse and worse. I think the best thing that happened to me was me and my, me and my kids mom splitting up because that's what made me spring to get my stuff together. Although I started drinking more heavily. But we didn't end on like because I was drinking or something like that. Stuff like that. But it was more so like I got myself in a funk and I wasn't trying to pull myself out and I got content and lazy with my life. And when she started to, it was a mutual split. But when I saw that she wasn't attracted to me anymore or that I was going to lose here and then once it was over, that that loss made me want to get myself together. Right? You there, enable him. And I, I know for him, I don't know, you should have him reach out to me so I can say, man, your lady about to leave your ass, bro. But if she's her staying there, she's either she's enabling him and then when you drinking, you know, she's putting herself in and, and you know, being susceptible to mental abuse. Because when you're drinking you say crazy or physical abuse or even worse like getting killed, right? So let's say you don't get killed or nothing like that, but you still have to deal with now you damaging yourself. So now you damage. And then you know, a damaged people damage people. So you go meet a good man and you damage him and then he damages a woman and it's just a crazy cycle.

That's right.

Oh, switch it. You know, now it's just a, a crazy cycle, you know. So I would sit him down and say hey listen, you're gonna have to or get off the pot. If not, I'm out of here. Especially if you have kids and like that. Because again you being there, it takes loss for, especially for men. We have to literally lose in order to see clear. Like your woman have to literally walk away from you. Because if you stay there psychologically like, you know, subconsciously, it's like, okay, obviously the behavior is cool because she's still here. It's just like if a man beats on you or you know he's beating on you, if you, if you don't leave, you know, subconsciously and psychologically tell yourself she's obviously okay with it. Even if you're not consciously thinking this so there's really no incentive to change. So, yeah, again, a good part of me says, hey, stay there and support them and all this, but to be honest, that it's not.

There comes a point. There comes a point. And I think Dre made a good point about if you allow yourself to be damaged to a point, you'll be damaging other people. And that's true. And that's true. It spreads hurt. You know, there's a saying in counseling world, hurt people, hurt people. And that's the truth right now. You don't want to let it change you like that, because then you could be continuing the whole thing subconsciously. Not on purpose, but subconsciously.

Yes, just subconsciously. When you damage, regardless of how good you want to be, when you damage, you behave differently.

That's right.

So you get a good man, right? And you know, you damage him, you know, so, yeah, I. Again, I want to say, hey, support him and help him, lift him up and. But that. That. Because I would be. That would be unfair of me because I tell my guys, if your girl smoke weed every day, if she drink every day, this out, don't deal with women like that. The problem is bigger than you. Their issue is bigger than you. You can't fix that. Only they can fix that. So I would be unfair for me to sit here and say, well, support him. And regardless of how, I'm pro man, right? I'm. I want the men to be back strong again. But, yeah, you. It's. He gonna have to feel lost.

Well, we want to thank you so much, Dre. You've given us a lot of wisdom. We certainly appreciate your time on a Sunday afternoon. You guys check out Dre's channel. I will link it up here. And he's. He's got a lot of wisdom to share. I. I've watched a lot of his videos, even though I'm not looking to figure out women. But there's a lot of wisdom in there. And I agree with almost everything I hear you say.

So, yeah, it's. I mean, when you come over there, just know I was.

The language is rough. The language.

But language is rough. And I'm gonna explain that. I know we gotta go, but I do want to pre. Warn, right. As a women who. The women who watching this, right? You will never, ever hear how men talk to each other, because the moment you walk in the room, the tones change, the conversation change. People get a little bit more respectful, right? You'll never, ever hear how mental. Unless you're eavesdropping or you leave a microphone somewhere, you'll never hear.

That's a mistake. Don't do that.

Don't do that.

Don't do that.

I said that to say, when you come to my channel, I speak to men as if no women are listening. Sometimes I say I even said it on my last show. I wish women couldn't even comment. And it's not that I don't like women or have a thing against women, but I'm only talking to men. This message is specifically for men. And so just keep that in mind.

You've been warned. Informed consent right there. All right. Thank you, everybody. I'll see you. We'll be back live next Thursday at 1.