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The speaker recalls interviewing Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, who argued that problems aren't obstacles but tools for spiritual growth. Peale believed pushing against difficulties sculpts our souls, making us more alive and caring.

The speaker recalls interviewing Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, who argued that problems aren't obstacles but tools for spiritual growth. Peale believed pushing against difficulties sculpts our souls, making us more alive and caring.
I remember I interviewed NORMAN Vincent Peale. Dr. Peale. I said, what do you think is the most important thing people need to understand? And he said, the power of problems. He goes, well, the only people who have problems are in cemetery. So if you don't have any, you better get on your knees and pray for some. Because he said, problems are a sign of life. And he said, I thought about a long time afterwards, and he said, I think that's how we develop spiritually. We push against problems, and that's what sculpts our souls. To think you shouldn't have problems. You can call them challenges. It feels better. But this part of life, it's part of the journey. And solving them makes you bigger, more alive, more spiritually developed, more human, more caring.

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