Bonnie Blue: Sleeping With 1000 Men in a Day Made Me a Millionaire

I love taking virginities. I need to go again.

What would you put on your CV as what you do?

The girl that took 10, 50 men getting a high body count. You've got to put the graft in.

That's a guy every 41 seconds.

Remember my mum when I was young, she was like, please don't ever be the town bike.

How does your mum feel about that now? Oops. What's your biggest month in terms of cash you've made?

It's over 2 million.

Wow.

They think I'm stupid and I'm like, no, I've just completely played you. These death threats are from middle aged women that sat at home. They can't even go and get a job loan, come and murder me. I've got a really good plan this year.

Can you share it?

Let's just say it's going to break the Internet for sure.

Did you get deported from Australia?

Government took my visa off me and they sent police after me.

What would you say is your weirdest request?

Well, weirdest request was, did you do that?

How much money did you make sleeping with over a thousand men in a day?

Hard to say. She don't get paid for like one particular video. Um, but it put me into the millions for sure.

So that one day of filming, how many hours was that that you.

Just over 12 hours.

Right. So 12 hours of filming made you more than a million pounds.

Yeah.

Do you ever pinch yourself and go, I'm really rich?

Not really, but sometimes I've started to lose track of reality. I spend, I'll go shopping and I'll drop 50k as if it's nothing. Before the bus fare was like, oh, that's expensive. I used to get a zigzag and I was like, I need to make the most of this bus ticket. Whereas now 50k is like nothing.

So was there a time when you thought, yeah, you rich now? Was there a moment?

I sort of think it's probably hit me. I think because I travel so much, I'm never like sat in one place. Like, I think when I think of rich, I think of, oh, you sat in a big house and we are going back.

It's a big one.

Yeah, I don't think it's really hit me yet. I think it, I definitely notice I'm rich. When I guess need to help my family out or I want to treat them, I do it as if it's nothing.

Yeah. So how old were you when you became an official millionaire?

25.

That's young.

Yeah.

Was it a goal to become a millionaire?

No. I've always wanted to be rich, but who's not wanted to be rich in their life? But it was never. I never thought it'd happen to me because I knew I didn't want to do us. To me, getting rich was, oh, I need to work myself up in a company and I maybe need to invest loads of money. But how do you invest money when you're doing it? Minimum page job.

Yeah. So I want to talk more about money, but I want to get my head around something. What would you put on your CV as what you do? I mean, you're probably never going to have to apply for a job, are you?

Yeah, probably never. So it's gone seriously wrong. If I need to apply to a job. I mean, what, the girl that took 1057 men? I don't quite think a CV would.

Cut it, but, you know, because I don't even know what to like, how to address you.

Yeah. You know, like creator, prostitute, anything goes.

And you don't care.

No. People try and throw these words at me sometimes like, oh, you're a prostitute, prostitute, you're a. And I'm like, you're saying it's really trying to offend me or try and annoy me, but I actually, I don't mind those words like what I do. These are a set word for it. Yes. I'd say I'm an only fans creator, but that still doesn't sort of summarize it to a certain extent. Because if you do Onlyfans, you could also just be doing bikini photos.

Yeah.

Mine's obviously far from that.

Yeah. And can you honestly say some of the cruel things they say that never hurts. You must have done at some point.

I used to be more bothered like before I did Onlyfans. If somebody had given me a hate comment, I would have really took it to heart. But I'm not a wet wife. I handle things really well and I can't be sat there crying about the hate comments when I've got millions of people giving me so many compliments and paying for my lifestyle. So I'd be stupid to be crying about the small amount of hate I get. I say small, it's hundreds of thousands of comments and death threats. You get death threats all the time.

And you're not bothered?

No. These death threats are from middle aged women that sat at home. They can't even go and get a job, let alone come and murder me. So if they had more motivation in life, they'd probably have a job and be Happy they won't come and murder me.

But you don't ever lay awake at night and go, some bad happened.

There's definitely times I've thought, oh, maybe someone's going to come and punch me up in the street, or someone's going to, you know, come for me because I've slept with their husband or their son. But I have seen that just so. Like, I guess that's because it's the reality, like I share my location all the time online that anyone could turn up. So far, only guys that wanted to sleep with me and meet me have turned up. But that's not to say women or, you know, mums of the sons I've slept with aren't going to turn up.

So who do you get more hate from, men or women?

Oh, women.

Women kind of surprises me. Why do women hate on you more than men?

I think I speak very factual about women sometimes. A lot of the time they are lazy. They expect too much from men. They want things paid for and then they don't even want to give a blowjob sometimes, which is fine if that's what they want to do.

But why. But you obviously think that's wrong. Why do you think that's wrong?

Not wrong, but don't expect your bills to be paid for and have this whole lifestyle and then you're not even wanting to treat the guy to a blowjob, so you should go and work. Like women say, I'm taking it back for them and I'm taking it back in time, but I'm a woman that's shown you can be independent. Go and earn your millions yourself. You don't need to depend on a guy. And too many women just see that as, oh, I'm saying they should be in the kitchen. It's like, I'm not saying you should be in the kitchen, but you are in the kitchen.

Do. Do guys ever get sort of threatened by you? You know, you probably make more money than most guys you ever meet.

Yeah.

Do guys get threatened by basically rich, successful women?

Not the guys I meet in person online. I still get a, you know, say if I got 10 hate comments, probably one or two of them are going to be from guys. Like, I do get some hate from men. But yeah, I guess it's just more than intimidated by me earning so much money. Like, they'll try and insult me because my Ferrari is, you know, a 13 plate as opposed to a 25 plate.

And. And they've got a Vox Volkswagen Polo, basically.

Yeah.

Right.

So it's Never hate comments I hit personally or they'll comment on my body or my boob size.

And I'm like, you can't help that, can you?

Yeah, And I'm not bothered and I'm not insecure. So when people give me hate on my body or my looks, I'm like, I'm happy with the way I look, but if that makes you feel better, then feel free. I'm a punching bag.

Is there any hate that's hit you, though, because you thought, oh, maybe that's true, or something really got under your skin?

There was times where when my name Tia got released, because for a while I protected the name Tia, and it wasn't to hide my past or anything like that. There isn't no dramatic past or daddy issues. It was purely just to protect my family. Like, I chose to do this. And even though they're supportive, my family didn't ask to be pushed into the limelight. And there was photos that started circling of my granddad saying, oh, this is Bonnie's daddy sexually assaulted her. And obviously all these people online, this got millions of views. It was just a TikTok saying, my granddad sexually assaulted me as a kid, and this is why I now do porn. And that is far from the truth. But so that one hurt because my family saw that and I was like, I've put them in that situation.

So back to the men versus women hate. Why do you think women hate you more?

Probably because I suck better than their, you know, better than they do for their husband. But as a whole, I.

So do you think if to use your phrase. Yeah, I don't think I've ever said this on a podcast, and I've done 1300, but I'll say it. If women sucked better, do you think there would be less men cheating?

Oh, for sure. If they've just drained their husband's balls, they're not going to be able to give me a full load.

Have you ever considered doing, like, personal development or. Or therapy sessions for people? I mean, you know, there's a lot of people talking about relationship advice. It sounds like, yeah, you can do.

So, see, I'm not an expert in relationships. I'm going through a divorce. I'm definitely no expert, but I think relationship should just be more open. Like I always say, I'm not here to solve all the world's issues. If you've got a relationship issue, that was way before I came around. So you need to. As a woman, you need to speak to your husband. You need to resolve the Issues. If you're dusting them under the rug, your husband's probably going to come see me as a stress release. And I've said before, it's not because that guy doesn't love his wife. He's just like, you know what, I'm a guy, I want to have sex. She's offering it for free. I'll come home and then I'll empty the dishwasher for you. They're not doing it to like hurt them as such, but I know that can obviously happen from them having sex with me.

Right, and you're okay with that? You're okay with sleeping with guys who've got wives?

Yeah.

How are you okay with that?

It's their, their problem, not mine.

Yeah.

Can't take on everyone's issues. Everyone just needs to focus on themselves. That's what I do. And I never say everyone should do what I do, but I'm like, I live so focused on myself, I do what I want to do. And if other people did that, they'd be less bothered about what I'm up to.

So let's talk about the magic number. Yes, it sounds like YouTube have an issue with your magic number. So we'll say over a thousand.

Yeah, we'll say a thousand.

So is that officially a world record?

Not officially, no. The Guinness World Record book did not acknowledge it.

Oh, but you're going to take it anyway?

Oh, 100%, yeah.

Okay. So I got my calculator out and assuming a 12 hour shift, no breaks, that's a guy every 41 seconds.

Yeah.

Like how? Like take me through it step by step.

How? It was a lot of, a lot of behind the scenes work. For sure. I probably had the easy job that day. If anything. There was security on the door downstairs. They was a basement where people was held, you know, held captive, ready to be forced to have sex with me. No, they obviously.

Were these all volunteers?

Oh, yeah, they're just random strangers from the uk. So just anyone and everyone, as long as you're over the age of 18, everybody's welcome.

Right? Okay, so you've rounded up just over a thousand random guys in the uk.

So, yeah, it started off like, I think it was like 11am so people started arriving way before. So when they started arriving, we'd put them in the basement, they'd start filling out consent forms, we'd scan their IDs. I was obviously in the room. So there was three floors, I was on the second floor and it's like a spiral staircase. So after they'd Done the consent forms, they'd gone through all the checks. They would start the queuing on the stairs and in the room. They'd always be. We did a mixture. We did some gang bangs at the start to get the numbers up. So then it meant they've probably only got about 20 seconds inside of me because it was just consistent, you know, switch in. Then we went down to groups of five because doing gang bangs for about four hours was. It was getting a lot. It was definitely getting hard because it was like I couldn't see. I couldn't see their ceiling, I couldn't see the floor. It was just guys, faces, like, everywhere. So then we switched it to five at a time. So we. Five guys in the room getting unchanged, getting the condoms on ready so that as soon as they came to me, they can go straight in and then move on. So it was just a consistent rotation of guys.

And why did you do it?

I wanted to push my body, but I actually found it quite easy. So I need to. I need to go again. But I just wanted to. I always enjoyed gang bangs and having sex with large numbers, but it was getting a bit boring. Like, I've done school years, freshers and spring break, and each time I was sleeping with like 100 guys per week. And I was like, oh, this is fun. But it's getting a bit boring. If each time I go to these social events and it's like, oh, I've just slept with a hundred people, it's the same story and it's getting a bit repetitive. So I wanted to do something different.

So was there a part of it that was like a publicity stunt type thing? Was it like a marketing exercise?

It was a guy from Daily Star, actually, after I did spring break last year, he was like, oh, have you ever considered doing the world record? And at the time, I'd never looked into it, didn't even know about the numbers. And he was like, would. Is this something you would do? And I was like, actually, yeah, I would love to do that. So ever since March last year, I was like, okay, this is something I want to do. But it was more just the logistics of it. Finding the time, finding the, you know, I guess getting the right team to help organize it.

Did it not take some recovery time from the 1000 odd people?

No, I was. Don't. I was concerned. I was like, because no one's done it before. I can't check and go, hey, no new set with a thousand. Did you feel sore? You know, did you have to leave in a Wheelchair. I, I was expecting to be, you know, pushing up frozen peas down there and have the ice cubes ready. But I was fine. I remember the next morning I woke up straight. I went to the bathroom, put my fingers inside, I was like, am I really sore? Am I swollen? I just felt like normal, like I felt a bit sore and I was a bruised, my body was quite bruised. I got bite marks on my body. I wasn't, I wasn't like, you know, any medical attention because that's the other thing. I see loads of doctors and stuff doing tiktoks about me and they're like, this person needs help, her insides aren't able to take that. And they, they go on this massive list and they go on a run. I'm like, have you ever diagnosed me? Have you ever looked at me in person? Have you given me an internal test? No. So how on earth can you diagnose someone from a video you've seen online?

And would you say, was it that one thing that sort of, I guess, made you mainstream famous?

Yeah, it was already sort of going in that direction beforehand. Like Channel 4 had already reached out, said, hey, we want to do a documentary on you. I was already like in every News articles on TV channels beforehand, but doing the 1000 really just, I guess solidified it.

And do you think there's something about you that makes you more interesting or memorable than there's lots of onlyfans creators, there's lots of people in the sex industry. Why are you so big?

I don't know. I think it's because I'm a. But I'm a. With a brain like most.

So you don't, you don't mind calling yourself.

It's hard work being a. It's not easy work getting a high body count. You've got to put the graft in. So being a, it's like an achievement. I can remember my mum when I was young, she was like, please don't ever be the town bike. And now look.

And how does your mum feel about that now?

Oh, she's super supportive. Like when I said that before, they've been like, oh, that's disgusting. How can your family support you? But they just see me as happy. They used to see me coming home from recruitment. I was stressed. I was, you know, earning like 20, 25k a year, which is okay, but I was never comfortable with that. I'd be like, oh, my boss has been a. You know, to me today, these are my targets. Like it was, it was stressful and they could See how unhappy I was from the outside perspective, I looked like I should be happy. I was going to work in a nice car, I was dressing up in a suit and it was like, wow, she's doing so well. But the reality is, just because you're putting on a suit and going to a work, like going to an office, doesn't mean you're happy. And my family can really see the difference between when I worked in an office job compared to now.

Was there a discussion you had to have with your mum, though? At some point that was awkward when you told her for the first time.

A video got leaked to them, so I never had that first conversation.

Do you wish you'd have been able to?

I wish for their sake it would have been me that told her. I was always going to tell them, but I'd only just started. Yeah, it was like my first or second week in and I didn't really understand it. I didn't understand if I was going to enjoy it, if I was going to do it long term. Like, I didn't. I didn't understand it. So how could I explain to my mum and dad, hey, I now do only fans, but these are the reasons, these are the benefits. It makes me happy. I couldn't say that because I didn't. I didn't know if it was going to make me happy. So I just wanted to give myself a good few months to understand it. Then I could say to him, hey, this is what I'm doing, but it's making me happy. I've been doing it for a couple of months now. That video was leaked to them and it was my sister that said to me, like, hey, like, mum and dad know you're gonna have to give him a call.

Oh, wow. So you didn't see it? You didn't speak to them face to face when you told them the first time?

I was in Australia at the time, right, I avoided their calls for a week because I was like, I want to do this and I don't want to be influenced out of it. I don't want somebody to tell me, don't do this. I was like, I know I want to do this, so I just need to focus on that for now.

Right. And so how did the conversation go? Was it one of them? Both of them? How did it go?

Just my mom, my dad's. It's like, we do talk about it, but obviously never in detail. My mum was just like, look, are you sure you want to do this? Have you got money issues? Are you being Forced into it because from her eyes, even though she'd seen I was unhappy in recruitment, she still saw me as this person that was doing really well. And, you know, I was married. I just relocated to Australia. Everyone would give her so much credit, saying, God, your daughter's doing amazing. You should be so proud of her. Then suddenly she realizes, well, my daughter's a sex worker. She is selling sex tapes online and that is a big. It's a big difference.

And do you think she took it well?

Yeah, she. She was definitely upset and, I guess disappointed to start with. And she was like, look, I don't want the family to be involved in it. This is something you're doing by yourself. Like, we'll support you, but we don't want to be involved. Fast forward a few months. They had a complete different perspective on it. I think it was anything they had a shock to start with. And then once they understood it and she'd learned a lot more about OnlyFans, she came to terms with it and actually loves it now.

And how did it make you feel knowing that it hurt them?

Oh, I felt sick because I knew when they found out, I knew everyone from school had found out. And at the time, I still cared so much about what people at school think about you. And, oh, my God, I'm circling their group chats. They're going to be laughing, they're going to be, you know, saying such horrible comments. And I remember having such a sick feeling in my stomach. I was like, this is so embarrassing. I can't believe I've done this. Yeah, it was definitely a horrible, horrible feeling because at the time, because I started in Australia, I was like, no one knows about it. It was like a secret. I didn't have social media or anything at the time, so I didn't think they'd find out so quickly.

And how old were you when you first started it?

24. Well, 25.

And how old are you now?

26.

Wow. So you've been doing it, what, 18 months?

Yeah.

And you've blown up this much in 18 months?

Yeah, it's been crazy.

Like, do you. Do you sometimes, like, feel like your life is going faster than you?

Oh, 100. Like, when I met with OnlyFans, I said, like, has this ever happened before? Has anybody blown up this quickly? There's like, we've never had it where somebody has grown as quickly as you and earns the amount you earn in this amount of time.

Why you then? Why have you blown. I know you said the brain.

Yeah.

That was like, You. But. But why you?

I speak my mind and I do things differently to others.

How? How do you do things differently?

One of the things is barely legal. Like barely legal content. School girls have always been sexualized in classes. Really hot content. What I did was sexualize the school boys. I was like, okay, I want to. If schoolgirl content has always been one of the best selling things on Pornhub and on OnlyFans, why can't it be school boys? We always say everything should be equal. And you know, women and men are the same, so why the hell can't I sleep with school boys? And that really shocked just about everybody.

Yeah. Yeah.

And everyone thinks it's so wrong. They think of like, you think of a schoolboy in uniform, you're like, oh my God, that is disgusting. How can you do that? Yet you see a schoolgirl walk past with pigtails and a short skirt and you're like, I need to have a. And I was like, I want it to be the same.

Do you though? Or is it, is it just like a good marketing publicity stunt or do you want it to be the same?

Yeah, I think women and men should always be the same. Like, I think.

But we're different, aren't we?

Yeah, we're definitely different. But in terms of sex, women and men both should enjoy sex. We should both get pleasure from it. We should both have orgasms from it.

Yeah.

So if something can be sexual for a woman, it can also be sexual for a guy. And that's what I want, to be the same.

Right.

When I first started it, I didn't have such a passion for. It was more than money. I was like, wow, this is blowing up. It's going in the press. But when I started to look into why is this going in the press so much, why is the TV talking about it and the. It was all from women saying, oh my God, this is disgusting. I can't believe you're sexualizing these 18 year olds. Like, if this was a guy, he'd be arrested, he'd be in prison. And I'm like, wow, are you that stupid? Because schoolgirls have always been a thing and you're not stepping forward saying that's been an issue and if it was a guy that you wouldn't be arrested. It's always been male porn stars and male OnlyFans creators sleeping with schoolgirls dressed up. So why is it causing such a shock that I'm doing it to schoolboys?

So do you still enjoy sex?

Yeah, I enjoy sex more now than what I used to.

Why?

Because I know my body a lot more. I'm a lot more confident. If a guy was having sex with me before I did this and was probably not hitting the right spots or going at the pace I wanted to, I probably just accept it. I probably like, oh, a bit too nervous to say, hey, can you do it like this? Or I enjoy this. I just like, okay, just going to let it be now. I'm like, okay, this is what I enjoy. This is how I want it. This is how, you know, I receive pleasure the most. I'm a lot more confident and I'm able to speak up a lot more during sex.

Do you think a lot of people in your industry have just become numb to it though?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Like these. Some people, I mean, you know, that do drugs, they drink, they do it purely for money. And you can see it, it's, it's hurting them and they shouldn't be in it.

And it's, it feels like you enjoy it.

Yeah.

You said you do, but I guess a lot of people get into it because of her. Of pain.

Yeah.

Loneliness, bad parenting. I don't know. You didn't have any of that?

No.

I guess people want to label you with that. Do they?

Oh, 100. The press have been at my parents house all the time. My grandparents, they're, they're wanting this big story of, oh, she got into sex work because this happened or her daddy left her as a kid, so this is why she did it. It's like I say it all the time. I, I do this because I enjoy it and I want to do it. And there's no horror story from my background, there's no trauma. I just do this because I want to do it. People can't come to terms with that. And I think it's because they're, they're so stuck in their own life and so miserable. They're like, they can't accept that I'm just somebody that's happy and earning millions and I go through life like it's a breeze.

So did you start because you loved sex and wanted to make money from it, or did you start because you want to make a load of money and you'll try sex because it looks like you could make good money or another?

I just sort of, I didn't want to go. I relocated to Australia and when you live somewhere so beautiful, I was like, the last thing I want to do is go and spend 40 hours in an office. I was like, I want to have a bit more Freedom and flexibility in my life.

But there's other outdoor jobs.

Yeah, but it's still. You're still restricted to so many to hours, annual leave pay.

Right.

And I kept seeing on TikTok people talking about camming online. Like when you go to a porn site and you can speak to a girl face to face. And I was like, wow, I could do that. I get freedom back, I get flexibility back. I choose the hours I want to work. I didn't do this because I've got a lazy work ethic. It's quite the opposite. I just wanted to be able to know, okay, if I put, you know, 12 hours of work in today, I'm going to receive the benefit of that. Some jobs you could do unlimited hours and you still don't receive the benefit from it.

Right. So you started just on the camera.

Yeah, it was just for money, but for freedom. Just. I just wanted flexibility in my life.

Why did you level up to in person?

I realized I was good at it. I'd never done camming, never done any sort of porn. And I can remember the first call I did, I was so nervous in my head. I was like, just fake it till you make it. I didn't know what I was going to talk to this person about. I thought this guy was going to be disgusting. I thought he was probably fat, old, zero sex life and a weirdo. And I was like, oh my God, he's a nice person.

Right.

He's just this normal guy you would pass in the street. And that instantly changed my perspective on sex work or these people that pay for sex.

Right.

Because I thought people that paid for sex were just people that couldn't get laid. And sometimes that's the case. A lot of the time that's not right.

So in your career as a sex worker, how many people would you reckon you've slept with?

I'm getting close to 2000.

So in 18 months.

In 18 months. So I'd say like 1700. Around.

Wow. What are the top things you've learned about men sleeping with 1700 men?

Sex isn't always really emotional. It's something to release and to get instant pleasure from. It's not really always really meaningful. Or they're not doing it to try and hurt somebody else. They're just doing it because sex is pleasurable and fun and it's as simple as that.

Right. So back to what we were talking earlier about their wives, etc. You think it's not such a big of a deal. They come to you, they release. Go back to Their wife. It's not such a big of a thing.

Yeah, I think definitely if I was in that situation, I'm not saying it's really easy to accept it like that.

But a lot as soon if you are the wife.

Yeah, if I was the wife. Like I know it's not just as easy to accept. Oh, he's just done that, you know, instead of going to the shop, he's just gone Bonnie. And he's come back. Like I do understand. Like it is, it is more difficult than I, you know, I say it very factual and I know it can hurt, you know, feelings wise. But yeah, I don't think they, they do it to hurt their wives a lot of the time.

No. Do they share sort of stories and secrets? Are they intimate with you emotionally sometimes or is it just the, the act?

Yeah, so it depends. Like when I did the thousand, I barely got to say hi to them. Like it's very different. But when I meet people more one to one experience, they'll chat to me about loads of things, whether it's about their wife, their kids, their family, work situation.

And are you interested in all that or do you just want to do the deed?

Yeah, like I, I sleep with them for free. I'm doing it because I want to give back to them.

Sleep with them for free?

Yeah.

Why?

Because I want to give back to them. If it wasn't for them subscribing, following me on social media, queuing up for me, I wouldn't have what I have.

Right. So you, so your income stream is the content and then the sort of the added bonuses. They might get a chance to sleep with you for free.

I, I'm not just this online girlfriend. Yes, I'm very much online. But you can also interact with me in person. You don't just have me thinking, oh I wish I could one day. You can just come and meet me next month. Like I like the fact these guys get to meet me and I give real interactions with them. It's not this fake like scenario.

Does that not open your life up to risks? I mean maybe some weirdos, maybe security issues. Have you not got to be careful with all that?

Definitely. But you could walk down the street nowadays and something go wrong.

Someone come out with a machete in London, that's quite exactly.

You could get shot or anything. There's so many things like you can't live your life by going, oh what if this happens? Or what if that happens? But me share my location. If you're a murderer, be silly. These cameras Rolling the whole time, the security. Pick somebody else. Like it won't be a smart option. Yeah, but everyone is overly respectful.

And does some men spend a lot of money with you?

A lot, yeah.

Give us some rough numbers. What, what your top payers, what sort of money are they?

I've had, I've got some subscribers that pay over a hundred thousand a month. It's a lot.

So you've got individual guys who are paying over 100 grand a month?

Yeah.

To you?

Yeah. These, these were such big payers.

What do they get for that? I guess it's not just online videos, is it?

Yeah. So everything like say through OnlyFans is always just online, as in you're creating.

The content, they're watching it.

Yeah.

And that's like the standard subscription, is it?

So I've got like three pages. One page is free to subscribe. Because a lot of people, they don't necessarily want to put all the bank details and they just want to see what content you've got.

Yeah.

So you can purchase things, but everything's at like full price. And then I've got like a VIP page which everything's discounted at. There's. Yeah, everything's more just discounted and in bundles.

Right.

And then I've got like an additional page where I'm always online a lot of the time speaking to them. I can do customer requests for them. So like, Bonnie, I really want to see you in this particular outfit doing this with the dildo. And I'll make that for them.

Right. So the 100 grand level you're probably doing, you're doing bespoke curated content for that person.

But I like that knowing like, I mean, some of the, the requests are so long that I want you to look like left. I want you to put this outfit on, I want you to shout a certain word, I want you to finger yourself with your index finger. I like when they're sat there, they know exactly what they want. And I'm like, I would love to make that for you.

That's not overwhelming for you to try and remember all those things?

No, I. I will write it down or I print them off and then I'll just obviously film on my phone.

Wow. Okay, so let's talk numbers then.

Yeah.

So what's your biggest month in terms of cash you've made?

Biggest month is just over 2 million.

2 million in one month?

Yeah.

Wow. In 18 months.

How much have I earned in 18 months in total? I wouldn't, I wouldn't know an exact number.

Well, if it's 2 million a month, must be more than 10 million.

Yeah, I'm very comfortable, let's say.

And. And you don't. So when you buy stuff now, just not even look at how much it costs. I'll have that. I'll have that. I'll have that. I have that.

Yeah. Sometimes I think, okay, I'm gonna start being a bit better. But then I. I'm like, okay, I'll be better next month. But I do spend a lot of money, but I also earn a lot, so I can afford to. To go on shopping trips and not check or. Yeah.

Do you invest?

Not yet. Like, I've got a lot of money aside and I want to start investing. It's just finding the right investments.

And do you have ever have issues with bank accounts getting shut down and people paying you?

Yeah, getting like a personal bank is hard, especially when your money's coming from only fans.

And how have you maneuvered that so? I'm friends with Nigel Farage and he got completely debanked just because of his stance on immigration. To me, it doesn't feel that right that a bank should judge your political views, I guess.

No, definitely not.

I guess you must have that to the next level, though, as soon as that is it. As soon as they find out you're an only fans creator, they're like, no account.

I think it's when they realize the amount that's coming in from onlyfans. Some people could do onlyfans only in a couple of thousand a month, so it wouldn't be a massive issue. When I'm saying, hey, there's going to be millions a month, it becomes a bit of an issue.

And why do you. What do you think the issue is? Is it risk? Is it money laundering? Or is it just. They just don't like onlyfans creators.

Yeah, they definitely don't like Onlyfans creators. But it's hard to say because if you say to them, hey, you're discriminating against sex worker, they're like, oh, no, we're not. But that is what it is. You are. You are discriminating against me.

And so how do you. How do you manage and maneuver all that?

I've got a very good accountant.

Right. And have you ever taken crypto payments? No, but that sounds like it's possibly the future. I mean, so I was with Andrew and Tristan last week, Tristan Tate. I mean, they're pretty open about it. I said, it's really hard for us to get bank accounts, but, you know, with crypto we have a lot of freedom.

Definitely in the future, if my accountant suggested I'd look into it. At the moment, just understanding the basic accounts give me a headache. So.

Yeah. And do you, do you have like, do you have an agency? So for the first time ever, I mean, we're 1300 episodes in, but yeah. Yesterday I interviewed someone who has a. An only fans agency.

Yeah.

And they do the help with the tax returns, you know, help with the accounting and all of that. Do you have an agency that does that or do you do all that in house?

So I don't have an agency, but I've got people that in my team that help with different things.

Yeah. Because I imagine when you started as a OnlyFans creator sex worker, you weren't really thinking about VAT tax returns.

No. You just sort of started and then suddenly like, okay, well I'm starting to earn my own money. And then you're like, okay, wow, what, what do I do with this? How do I go about paying tax and all the other you have to do?

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Hard to say. I think there's a long list.

Let's go. I've got, I've got time.

I don't know the barely legal content that really gets into people's skin.

And what do they accuse you of there?

Oh, I'm a predator, I'm a groomer. Just they, they think it's so disgusting and they think it's so wrong that I promote sleeping with 18 year olds and taking virginities.

Is that how you see it? Taking virginities?

I mean, I love taking virginities, yeah.

Why?

I think most people have a terrible experience. I mean, what was your virginity losing experience like?

I'm supposed to be asking you the question. It was innocent. I, I was, I was in love with the girl. Yeah, it was my first love and yeah, it was fumbly and under the duvet and wasn't really sure what I was doing. And no, I didn't dare ask anyone. Yeah, didn't to. I wanted to make out to her that I knew what I was doing. I didn't, I don't know that I think it was her. She told me it was her first time and I believe her. And yeah, so it, it was probably like trying to do it with no limbs whatsoever. It was just like.

Yeah, it's hard. Like you, you learn about sex education at school and then, you know, you watch a couple of porn videos but how it happens in porn is so unrealistic and not how it happens in real Life. So these 18 year olds when they're trying to lose their virginity, they don't know what they're doing.

So you like literally teach them on the job?

Yeah, because like I literally say to them, finger me, do whatever, play with my body. Because they've never done that before. Or they've watched this porn video where these choking, slapping, hair pulling. If they were to go and do that to another 18 year old that's also not had sex, that is intimidating, they could hurt that person, that person the next day could say, I didn't consent to that and then they're going to be in a whole lot of trouble. So. And they've probably been drinking sometimes it might be under the influence. There's so many scenarios where it's unsafe for both the girl and the guy when they're having sex the first time. So I offer them an open space, zero judgment. They security on the door, you've done consent forms, you've done a breathalyzer. It's such a safe and welcoming sort of, I guess, place to lose your virginity. You're not going to be judged, you're not going to be laughed at. And some of these people are concerned, like it's too small or what if they don't stay hard or what if they don't finish? And that really plays on their minds. So when they come to see me, whether they don't get hard or they don't finish, or there's so many things that could go wrong, I don't care in the nicest way possible. I'm not going to judge you. I'm not going to make you feel silly or stupid for not knowing certain things. So I like giving them that open space.

Yeah. What else pisses people off about you?

I Guess how proud I am about sex. They think I should keep it, keep it hidden. I should go and find God. I should not speak so proudly about. In, like, probably every one of my videos, there's a comment like, please go and find God. Like, please let somebody save you.

Was that how Russell Brand was approaching? I saw him interview you and it felt like he was trying to save you. He's just found God, hasn't he?

And I think a lot of people, when they're so lost in their own life, they suddenly find God or they find a guess, motivational purpose, and they're like, oh, it's because I found God. It's like, no, you're just having a midlife crisis. Like, I don't need to find God.

You're 26.

26.

26. You seem very, like, clear. You know what you're doing, you know where you want to go.

Yeah. Like, I definitely don't know it all. I've still got so much to learn, and I'm open to learning new things, but everything I do, I'm so confident, and I choose to do it. I'm not forced into it. And people think I'm going to be scarred. I'm a suicide case waiting to happen. And I'm like, I'm sorry you can't accept what I do. But I'm doing this and I'm choosing to do it. So I'm very headstrong on everything I do. No one can really trip me up, like, because everything I do, I'm proud of and I've got a reason to it. It's like when I'm doing Barely Legals, when I get called a predator, I'm like, well, I'm not a predator. Because they're 18 and they're consenting and I'm giving them a safe environment. So every time people, guests try and come at me, I'm like, I've got 10 reasons of why it's acceptable.

So is there a part of you that actually quite enjoys the criticism and them coming at you? I'm sensing that you do quite like it. Actually.

I love it because they're stupid. They. I sit and watch these tiktoks online. They think I'm stupid. And I'm like, no, I've just completely played you. Like, I slept with a midget recently and really nice guy. And he. I did TikTok saying, oh, my God, I've just slept with a guy that was only 4 4, and it was in America. And I was like, and he's too young. To buy alcohol because Obviously in the UK is 18, in the US it's 21. And then the amount of tick tocks that came from that, they're like, she's finally slipped up. She's admitted she slept with someone underage, I've called the police on her. And it's like, no, I knew you'd react like this. I make these tick tocks and say certain words knowing you're stupid enough to fall for it.

So you're literally just setting them up the whole time.

I'll sit there like, and just entertain myself pissing them off. So when I sit there and other people would be hurt by these comments, these people are saying like, oh, she's a predator, she's confirmed it, she's going to get arrested. I'm like, for what? For sleeping with an 18 year old that's consenting. And I've got liquid evidence of him enjoying it. You can't arrest me. And also.

And you've got the consent forms.

Consent forms as well. When do you have sex nowadays and have to fill consent forms? Got security on the door, do a breathalyzer. That isn't how sex happens. You meet someone on a night out, you've been drinking, you bring them home, have sex with them, you forgot the name by the next morning. The way I have sex is very, very, very consensual. So when people try and blur the lines of it's not acceptable, I'm like, okay, well the last time you got laid, I mean, even though it was a long time ago when they got fucked. But when did you fill in a consent form? When did you do a breathalyzer? When did you discuss your yeses and no's? Like, before I have sex with people, I'll go through what I enjoy, what I dislike, what I think is acceptable in the bedroom and what I don't think is acceptable. That doesn't happen in personal life.

No. Does that not make it a bit more sort of manufactured? Is the romance kind of gone?

They definitely, I mean, these people aren't asking to marry me, you know, I'm very clearly a slut that just wants to sleep with a lot of people. There isn't a, hey, come and meet me, you know, join the queue of a thousand to take me on a date. That's, that's not how it's going. Like some of these people do message me afterwards and some of them I've continued to speak to.

Yeah.

But as a whole, they're just there to use my holes. It's very different today. 10.

What about from your side, though? Do you. Do you lack romance in your life?

It's not something I'm looking for at the moment. I think before I used to think that was happiness. To be married, have children, a house. If you've got that, you're happy. Like, that is what the world makes you believe. You sort of finish school and that's. That's your whole life is to focus on finding someone and getting married. And I had that. And I realized it was. Wasn't necessarily for me. From an outside perspective, I looked super happy. I had a house, I had a husband, nice cars. We relocated to Australia. But actually being in that myself, I was like, it's not. It's not really for me.

And when you married and when you started sex work for the first time, and did you tell him initially?

He gave me the confidence to start it.

And now you're divorcing him. Oops. Yeah, I. I have a friend who wasn't really getting on so well with his wife, and he told her to go to the PT and get in shape. So she went to the pt, got in shape, and then started them.

Yeah, that's very cliche.

Yeah, it is, but it was true. So. Yeah. So he encourages you to get in and now you're getting divorced. So what's happened there?

We grew apart. We were together from the age of 15. So I was together a long, long time. And I think it's completely normal and it's okay to grow apart. And loads of people in relationships because they've been with someone so long just continue to stay with that person because they've made memories. They've been with that person for so long, they think, oh, well, I have to stay with this person. I just need to keep working through our issues. Sometimes you need to wake up and go, okay, instead of keep pushing through these issues, let's accept we've had to say an amazing 10 years and let's both move on.

A lot of divorces are messy and you're making a lot of money. Is he, like, trying to get a load of money out of you?

No, we're both. We're not. We've not split up on bad terms at all. So. No, it's a very. As nice as divorces can be. It's a nice divorce.

And. And how do you do that? How do you have a nice divorce?

I guess just agreeing beforehand who's. Who's got what and just splitting it whichever way we both feel we should.

How are you most misunderstood?

I Don't know, maybe that I'm stupid.

But then you like people thinking you're stupid by the sound of it.

Yeah. Why would you want to go in and go, I'm so clever. I'm this, that and another. Like, then people expect a lot more from you. But yeah, like I, I've highlighted to people I'm clever. I clearly am. I make millions. But yeah, I don't mind people thinking I'm dumb. I think if people, if I was bothered about people thinking I'm dumb, I'd be also upset about all the other hate I get.

Is there anything though that you'd like people to understand more about you?

I guess I'm just the most very normal and down to earth. I think when people meet me, they're like, you are not what I expected. And I've got friends. When people like meet people in my team that they know, they work with me or they know me, they're like, oh my God, what is Bonnie Blue? Like, like, tell me about her. And like, she's just the most normal, down to earth person I'm not. I don't know, I'm just normal.

Yeah.

And it's hard to, I guess believe that when I do crazy stunts. Yeah, that's one part of my life. I'm also just sat in my pajamas most days watching Netflix. I've got pets I absolutely adore and I'm just a very normal person.

What would you say is your weirdest request? Weirdest dm. Something just like when you were like, whoa.

Well, weirdest request was somebody wanted me to in a condom and then put it in the freezer and then use that to masturbate.

Did you do that?

No. You'll have to, you'll have to request it again next time. Just don't check my freezer.

Is this just water off a duck's back for you? You're like, well, whatever.

When I read it, I was like, wait, sorry, what? Have I read that wrong? And then I read it again. I like, no, he really does want me to in a condom and put it in the freezer. I feel like it'd be more normal if a guy did that because they'd be putting it back and that's where it's come from. But for me to put the poo inside my. I think it's just a bit too much.

Is there anything that shocks you?

Yes and no. I've become a lot more open minded. I used to be very judgmental. Even people that had threesomes. I'd be like, that's crazy. Or when people said they had open relationships and they would sleep with, you know, another girl, even though they're doing it together as a couple, in my mind, I'd be like, well, your husband doesn't love you. Like, if he wants to sleep with another guy, another girl, like, he's. He's not into you. Whereas now I'm like, no, they're just so open and got a good connection that they're happy to speak about their wants and desires. So now I'm a lot less judgmental.

Andrew Tate. What do you think about Andrew Tate?

I mean, I actually get called the female version of Andrew Tate a lot.

Really?

Yeah.

And how does that make you feel?

I think there's certain things that he says I don't believe in and I don't agree with.

Like what?

I've not really looked too much into his stuff. It's just when I've seen online, I'm like, here, I don't agree with that. But you're never gonna have the exact beliefs and thoughts of somebody. The two. You could have two brothers, for example. Both of them, they're gonna have slightly different tastes. Whether that's in women, certain beliefs that you're never going to be exactly the same minded as somebody else. Yeah. So. But I think the one thing is that he's very good at is speaking his mind. Whether other people agree with him or disagree. You should be able to speak freely as long as you're not physically hurting somebody. I think you should be free to say what you believe in.

And is that why people say you're the female Andrew Tate because you speak freely?

Yeah, I speak very freely. And they think I'm very damaging towards women. And they think Andrew Tate is as well.

And what do people say about you that's damaging towards women?

They say, I so force women into sex. I have sex with women as well. No, but they think when I say, oh, look, if you don't have sex with your husband, he's probably going to cheat on you, they're saying, I'm forcing them. That person.

How's that forcing them?

Exactly. It's. They need to learn what the law is basically and get some brain cells. And then when I talk about why.

Wouldn'T a wife want to have sex with her husband?

Exactly.

Is there not a problem in the relationship if they don't want to do that?

Yeah, that's exactly what I think. Like, if they're not having sex and then people go, oh, my God. But these medical issues of why you can't. That's very different. I'm not saying every situation is the same. Some people have type, some people have buckets. Everyone is very different. But I'm saying, like, if you're not having sex with your husband and he's going to work and he's paying the bills and doing all this and you're just not having sex with him because you're lazy, then he's going to sleep elsewhere. So then women are saying, I'm forcing these women to have sex with the husband to stop from cheating. But it's like I'm just opening your eyes up to a relationship that's clearly not in a good situation.

So do you feel like you sleeping with men who have wives is teaching the wives a lesson?

It could be seen like that.

How do you see it?

I think if they don't have sex with their husband, they should just be thanking me because I'm doing their job. Because if they're.

You get outsourced.

Yeah. I think it is much better if their husband comes to see me in a queue where I am just literally rotating through guys as opposed to them having an affair at work. Just literally rotating through guys as opposed to them having an affair at work, where they've had to look at the girl they fancy, the person they've started texting them, probably doing secret gifts, then they're going to a hotel for the night and it's very much more emotional. So it's like I'm draining your husband's ball. So he's not having an affair in the office. Instead, he's just queuing up with a whole load of other guys to me and move on.

Do you miss emotional connection with men or a man?

I'd say I get an emotional connection from some of the people I sleep with. Like, some of them I've continued to go on dates with, I've spoken to, and I. I enjoy my life how it is. Like, I'm not missing, like, a certain connection. If I felt like there was a gap in my life right now, say if it was love or a relationship, I'm a situation where I don't need to do this. I do this just because I want it. So if I wanted a relationship, I could go and look for one, or I could put myself in a situation where I could start going on dates, but I don't really want to do that.

Do you feel like you might be kind of stuck in this work for a while because, A, the money is so good and then B, what could what could be a new career?

Yeah, I'm definitely not stuck because I've earned enough money to retire and retire my whole family for the rest of my life. So I'm not stuck. But yeah, I don't think apart from investments, I don't think I could ever do anything aside from this. Now I used to think when I first started I want to do this a couple of years to earn enough money to just.

I'm sure that's what every sex worker says.

Yeah. But it's because I wasn't enjoying it. So in my mind I said, I just want to be in and out of this industry, I don't want to be in it long term, I just want to earn money and leave. Now that I enjoy it a lot more, I see it very different.

Would you say you're an advocate for other people getting into OnlyFans and sex work?

There's so many reasons why onlyfans won't work for some people. They're lazy, they're just, and they're just not intelligent enough. So I'm not saying everyone should do only fans. It doesn't work for most people. I think on average people earn less money on onlyfans like with the amount of content creators the years they learn less money than average wage by doing only fans. So it is not a message to say, hey, if you want to be a millionaire, get your online, you're going to earn money like it's, it's not the case. But a lot of that's because of their, their fault. They think men should desire them, they think men should just subscribe and give them their hard earned money. It's like you've got to be interesting. There's so many aspects to OnlyFans. You've got to market yourself, you've got to edit it, you've got to do social media, you've got to understand men and you've got to want to do it. Like I think for women, if they want to get into sex work, just go and be an escort, go and be a prostitute, you'll earn more money and it's guaranteed money as opposed to doing onlyfans where it's a lot harder.

And why don't you take that option and get paid for sex?

I used to, when I first started OnlyFans, I did escort in to help give me some more money because escorting or prostitution, whatever you want to call it, you put an ad up online. The ads only like a couple of hundred pounds for a month and then you turn up and it's guaranteed money. You turn up, you have sex, you leave with that thousand pounds for OnlyFans. You could turn up with another OnlyFans creator, have sex. You're not guaranteed a thousand pounds. And from that you need to edit it, you need to market it, you need to put it on social media. You then need to hope people subscribe and purchase that video. It's a lot, it's a lot harder for that thousand pounds. But I. I just enjoy so much more doing only fans and the content I make now.

And do you see the marketing and the branding as an important part of it?

100%. And that's what people forget, especially OnlyFans models. They think, I'm going to upload a sex tape and earn money. It doesn't work that way. Like, you've got to. You've got to have a reason. People want to subscribe to you because you can go online. There's loads of links online. You've got videos free on pornhub. You've got to have a reason. People are tied into you. They want to go to your page and pay you directly. See, the marketing's massive. And I, when I first started, didn't understand that as much. When I do gang bangs and do these events now I'm spending like two to four hours before it starts doing videos. I'm doing TikToks. I'm recording their feet, I'm doing loads of face videos showing I'm surrounded by men. Otherwise you're getting by hundreds and hundreds of people and no one's seeing it because that video can only go on OnlyFans. What you need people to see is the TikToks and the Instagram videos and the reels, because that, that can go everywhere.

Right.

You're not age restricted, you're not, you know, limited on where you can put that content. It can go everywhere. The porn video can only go on one website, right?

Did you get deported from Australia?

I. Well, I didn't get supported. I got banned.

Oh, okay.

I got deported from another country.

Okay, well, tell us the Australia one.

So I lived in Australia for four years. Absolutely loved it. It was my dream to live there. Always thought it was such a beautiful country. And I did this thing back in 2000, it's when I first started. So that would have been 2004, in 2024. And it's called Schoolies. So how we have freshers in the uk, they call it Schoolies. And that's what really blew me up to start with. It was amazing. Had so Much fun. The students I slept with had an amazing time. I then went on and did spring break in Cancun and then in September I came back to the UK to do Freshers. I was only meant to be back for a couple of weeks and I was due to go back to Australia and ended up extending my UK trip a little bit because I was having a lot of fun and I enjoyed promoting the fact I'd just done Freshers in that time. It was coming close to Schoolies again, which happens in November. So I started doing my TikTok saying hey, I'm going to be back in Australia, can't wait to sleep with schoolies. Can't wait to take loads of viginities from these 18 year olds. And from that a lot of middle aged women was causing an uproar. Even the hotel I was due to stay at released a statement to say if Bonnie Blue turns up at this hotel, we are kicking her out. She's not allowed to be here.

Wow.

One that's actually against the law because Australia actually released a new regulations act to say we cannot kick out sex workers, we can't discriminate. However, that was completely ignored and they emailed me to say, look, you're booking with us has been, has been banned. Then there was a petition that started saying let's Bonnie, let's ban Bonnie Blue from Australia. And I got sent, sent the link and I was like, well this is pathetic. In the bio it said she sleeps with underage guys. They're not consenting and they don't know it's been videoed. That could not be further from the truth. They turn up to me because they know it's being filmed. They have to be of legal age and they are consent, you know, they are consent to that video being out. So when this petition started getting a lot of traction, it was on the news and the signatures was building up very, very quickly. I was like, well it's stupid. Like why would anybody take note of this? That got over 40,000 signatures in just a few days.

Wow.

And the government took my visa off me.

Wow.

Yeah. I got a call from the journalists, it was like 1am Because I was in the UK at the time, I said can you make a comment on the factual visa's just been revoked. And I was like no, that's not been the case. Is that the petition's pathetic and basically just said what I've said to you. And she's like no, it's been released. And they released my full legal name as well. Which Wasn't out at that time. It's like, TMR Billinger is banned from Australia. And then shortly afterwards, a few hours later, it was on TV and it spread everywhere.

And how did that make you feel?

I was really upset. My pets was there. My life I built for four years was there. I loved Australia and I loved the lifestyle it provided me with. I was, yeah, I was just angry. I was like, how can this MP take my visa off me? Because only a few days before he released a statement on me saying, oh, I don't really understand onlyfans, but if you are going to schoolies this year, I don't think you should sleep with Bonnie Blue. So how can you release a statement saying, I don't understand onlyfans, but I don't think you should sleep with her? So then a few hours late, well, 40 hours later, you've decided to take my visa off me.

Do you think that maybe inadvertently, though, has made you more popular and well known? I mean, it's a bit of a marketing thing to say. I got banned from Australia.

It was the best thing. As much as I miss it, it was the best thing that could have happened to me because it also opens my eyes to how much sex workers are still discriminated against.

Right.

Like how much a visa can just be taken off me for sleeping with consenting adults just because I've branded it as barely legal. The part of that is the word barely and legal. They just. Because they only just turned 18, they're still legal. And I'm like, if you've got an issue with that, the MP should have thought, okay, we're going to raise the age of consent or we're going to do something else so she doesn't sleep with 18 year olds. Banning an only fan star from entering the country wasn't the right way to go about it.

No.

Especially from facts that wasn't true. If it was, oh, we just want to ban it because we don't want to run a country. Fair enough. I can't argue that you just don't want me there.

Yeah, but they're not going to admit that, are they?

No, no. And then I thought, well, I thought you had to break the law to have your visa taken off you. I thought you had to do something wrong. But then when I started looking into it, comedians and just certain people have been banned. You don't have to actually break the law to. To get banned. So on the back of that, I was, okay, do Karen's. Because half of your kids, as they you know, like to randomize, get sent to Fiji. So half of them stay in Australia for schoolies and the other half go to Fiji. I was like, I'm gonna go to Fiji.

You went to Fiji and them all there?

Yeah. I was like, you think you've won? You think you've got one up on me? So I continue doing TikToks, doing a countdown, saying, oh, it's five days till Schoolies. I'm still gonna be there. And all these Karens were like, is she stupid? How is she gonna go? She's banned, so she physically can't do it. Obviously they're forgetting I've got money. I'll just fly to Fiji then. No issue. I flew to Fiji and did a tick tock and said, hey, this is where I am. Didn't even release the exact address. I just. It was like a video. You could see the background. You could see like, I'm on an island. I slept with some schoolies that day. Never posted the videos. Like, never got round to it because later that evening, the police and the. I don't know what it's called if there's not an mp. It's like a. Some sort of guy went on TV and said, tia Emma Billinger is being deported from the country. She is permanently banned. And they sent police after me.

Wow. So did you get arrested?

No. So I.

We just left.

I was watching it live on TV and I was like, okay. So me and Josh, who. They said, and cameraman, we scooped up all of our stuff the hotel was in and we rushed straight to the airport because we was like, we don't know what's going to happen. My publicist at the time was like getting me to write my. The British embassy number down. I was writing my lawyer's numbers down because we didn't know what was going to happen if I got arrested in that country. That country's. It's like a third world country. It's. It's not got the same rules we've got. So we was, we was concerned if I got arrested, what would happen?

Yeah. And would you say that is the craziest thing that's ever happened to you, or has there been more crazy than that?

I say I was very crazy. I mean, by the time I got to the airport, paparazzi was there, cameras was there, it was filmed, it was put on TV instantly. It was very. I guess it was stressful. It was one of those, like, I was stressed, but laughing. I was like, I actually can't believe this is happening. Like I've slept with consenting adults, which is not against Fiji's laws at all. And I've been banned. It was like, how is this happening again?

Yeah. Have you thought maybe about how many countries can you go to and get banned from?

Oh, yeah. I've got a really good plan this year.

Yeah. Can you share it?

I can't share too much, but there's an island I'm going to go to and I think it will be. Let's just say it's going to break the Internet for sure.

So you're going to go to an island and sleep with a lot of people and you think it's going to cause an uproar?

Yeah, I think it will shock a lot of people.

Can. Can you give us anything more than that?

It'll make everything I've done seem tiny in comparison to this.

What you want your legacy to be. How would you like to be remembered?

I mean, you're dead by the time you remembered, so I don't think it matters too much.

But, I mean, some people are obsessed with that though, aren't they? You know, their legacy and how they're remembered?

No, I think if you're focused on what everyone else is going to remember you by, you're living your life completely wrong. People are going to remember me by either the thousand or the 2000 or the girl that slept with loads of Barely Legals. Like, everyone's gonna have their own opinion on me. Yeah, I just want to live my life by focusing on happiness. Like, if I want to do something and it'll make me happy, I'll do it. Because I used to be so fixated on the wrong things in life. I was so bothered about what everyone else thought of me, whereas now I don't. I don't care. Like, you never get in an old people's home thinking, I'm so glad I cared what everyone thought about me. I'm so glad they, you know, put me on this hierarchy and everyone thought, wow, you're brilliant. Instead, you're with your family or your close ones or your friends and they can remember that time, remember when we did this, or remember I was cracking up laughing. I want to have loads of memories and experiences.

And what does make you happy? Like, honestly.

The biggest thing is just freedom. I get to wake up now. I don't have to set an alarm. I get to do what I want, when I want. And I don't mean that in a cocky way. I just. I don't have to live by anybody's rules now. Yes, I, I work a lot, but if it ever got too much, I could go, you know what, I'm going to Bali for six months. Six months. And I'm, you know, gonna lift off the Internet. And I can do that.

Yeah.

I have complete control and that's what makes me happy.

Right. And you do 2 million pound months. Do you have goals to do 10 million pound months? Are you still like chasing the money?

I want to do 5 million a month by the end of this year.

Right.

But also if it didn't happen, it's not, it's not the end of the world. Like, once you start earning millions, you don't need. Like, you don't need it. Like, really, you only ever need to be given 1 million in your life. And if you can't make money from that, that you was always going to be. So, yes, I'd like to earn 5 million, but if I started to work in towards that and I was like, my body can't handle this, or I need a break or I feel like I'm burning out.

Yeah.

Like it's. I don't need the 5 million. You save up for, you know, three months and you've got the 6 million, so I don't need it. Yes, it'd be nice, but it just sort of becomes that Monopoly money at this point. I used to speak about, oh, that's 10 pound, 20 pounds. Now I'm like, oh, that's a hundred, that's 200,000. Like, your perspective completely changes.

What would you say is your biggest regret?

I guess just thinking for so long, you, you have to live the life of finishing school, getting a job, getting married, having kids and just living that such black and white life. I think it's literally drilled into you from such a young age. And I'd only did five years of recruitment, but that was five years of every day you're getting up, you're sitting in rush hour, you're going to work. And I think, this is life. This is as good as it can get. I'm in a nice office, I've got a partner. Like, why am I not happy? I think just thinking something was wrong with me for not being like, thinking I should be so happy right now. Everyone around me tells me how well I'm doing. I should be over the moon right now, but I'm not. I think just even accepting that for five years, some people go the whole life and they don't realize, so they're on the deathbed. Wow. So I'm very lucky to have realized at a young age that I can change this and I'm the one that's in control of it.

What would you say is a obscene or really opulent expense you've ever had some just crazy amount of money you spent on something?

Maybe a private jet that I never got on because I had the sh ts that day.

So how much was the private jet?

I don't know, but I could imagine it was a lot of money.

I mean, they're tens of thousands, aren't they?

Yeah, I don't know, maybe 50, 60k.

So you put 50 to 60k down on a private jet and never got on it?

Yeah.

And didn't you try and get your money back?

No, it just seemed like too much work to be fair. My. My sister got on it.

You should have filled that condom up then.

I know. My sister got on it with an Asda truck and she sent me a photo. Yeah, I just had that day. And I was like, look, I'm not going.

So how much is the most you've spent on a piece of clothing or some fashion item or a handbag or whatever?

I wouldn't say I've spent loads on an actual item. I mean, there's some items I've spent a lot on, but I probably spent over a million on clothes.

Really?

Yeah. Like, I've brought a dress that was like 24,000 I wore for an hour, took it off and ripped it. I didn't rip on purpose. I just bounced in, ripped it.

Have you gone to get it repaired yet?

No, it's still in my wardrobe.

Do you sometimes not think it would be kind of good to still have a grounded reality of what's a lot of money?

Yes and no. Like, I've got enough money saved now. I don't ever need to be concerned about the milk, you know, money going up. I know enough. I've always said to my accountant, I want to be involved to a certain extent. I don't want to be involved in all the little details. Just as long as I'm saving enough each month and we've got enough, you know, my money's split into different parts. Money that can burn away, whether that's clothes or whatever I want. That's no significance. Then money that goes into. Okay, when I'm ready to invest. That's investment money, saving money. And as long as I'm filling up them parts for me, my burning money can just, you know, never has to be a concern.

What one thing do you like to say to your haters?

I guess just thanks for not draining your husband because me as load gave me a very good facial.

I mean not many people could say that to the haters, can they?

Yeah it's like I feel more sorry for them. A lot of them come from my age like oh I look 46. 6. I look so old and that they're doing these. Some of them they will respond with a video and I'm looking at them, they've got missing teeth, they look like they're in a council house that they're not able to keep clean. They've got kids screaming in the background. I think probably go and look after your screaming kids as opposed to making a tick tock about somebody that's living very comfortable and they say to me like how do you sleep at night? And I'm like in a five star hotel very comfortably like I sleep just fine.

Yeah. This show is called Disruptors as you can see and we thought that you really fit the bill of yeah being disruptive guest and I think you've definitely lived up to that. Do you think that you're disruptive and what does the word disruptive mean to you?

Disruptive just reminds me of when you was at school and you're causing a chaos and your teachers that look shut up, sit down or you're getting out.

Yeah. Is that you?

Not really, no. I didn't do my homework all the time, I'd be late for class but I was never, I was never like the attention seeker at school. Destructive I guess is just causing chaos. You're making a noise, people just want you to be quiet nowadays they don't want you talking your mind they don't want you talking about politics they don't want you to have an opinion on things they just want you silent.

And do you enjoy creating chaos?

Yeah, it's entertaining.

So other than your two big events that you just shared.

Yeah.

What's next? Next Is there a next development of your career?

I've got a documentary coming out in July right with Channel 4 and what's that on Just My Life they over the last six months they came to the thousand event. I don't know how it's going to turn out to be honest because when you film a documentary they are final say on the edit.

They might twist you a bit then sometimes Channel four wasn't dispatches was it?

No, no they could, I mean I believe that they're not going to but also I've done multiple interviews before and suddenly it's been a really nice positive interview. Next minute I check the news. And it's like, wow, this feels disgusting. And it's like, that isn't the conversation we had. No, it could do. But also, I feel like they filmed so much of me and my personality and how normal I actually am. I don't really think it can be twisted.

So if you've had people kind of turn on you, twist you, put stuff in the media about you that wasn't true, does that make you less trusting of people now?

Yeah, I used to always. I used to get a lot of press contact me, and I would take every single call. I would respond to every interview, I'd do every podcast. I never saw anyone's bad intentions. And I used to think there's no such thing as bad press, especially when you're a sex work. Like, even if you say all the correct things, you. You're still going to be called, you know, slot and everything else. Then I realized the amount it was getting twisted and lied about, I was like, it's benefiting them more than it is me.

Right?

Like, you put Bonnie Blue on something without me sounding cocky. It's going to get you views. It's going to get you the clicks. And I realized I need to stop giving people that the time and giving them, yeah, the most valuable thing is time. And I'm giving them too much time because all they're doing is twisting my words and making me out to. To be worse than what I am.

Well, based on your experience in the past, I want to say thank you very much for letting me interview and coming on Disruptors, because we try our best. Obviously, we want to get stuff that goes viral or gets good views, but hopefully you've seen from the way I ask you the questions, we just want people to talk them and not in that game. And, yeah, I think it's sad when people do that. And thanks for letting us come and interview you.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Thank you, Sam.