Eddie Hall Sets The Record on Losing Millions, Quitting The UK & Thor Rivalry

Is life on the line? It's either win the world's strongest man or life is not worth living. He's done it. He's got the down signal. Strongest man I am on the f brick.

Didn't far off nearly kill you.

It was just a massive immigration, taxes, stalling, digital ID bullshit.

Don't hold it back.

I'm not going to hold it back. He is a specky eyed f ing cunt.

Do you have anger?

I've got that much pent up energy. If I'm not expelling it, I'll snap at anyone. Since that incident, are you friends with Thor to be careful what I say here.

But how much was it?

My contract was for 20 million and I never got aing penny ever had any health scares. Everything was working overtime to keep my body having a heart attack or a script.

Who is the strongest person you've ever seen?

Pound for pound, strongest moon that's ever been.

How much did it piss you off when Thor beat your deadlift world record? Like be honest.

Honestly, it. It really didn't.

But weren't you bitching about it a bit online?

I mean, I wasn't bitching about it. I was just making a point of it wasn't done in a competition. Right. You know, it wasn't done under official rules and this is a big part. I even said on his channel that that's why he came back and did it officially.

Right. So it's is, is it? I mean, I obviously don't know the sport as well as you, but for all of us who don't, is it kind of quite illegitimate? If it's not done under proper rules, then yeah, 100.

It's like me, you know, getting these weights in my basement, pulling 502 kilo here and getting a referee to down call it. Like you don't know if those weights are fake.

Right.

As there's right weight or this platform's not bouncy or, you know, there's so many aspects that can call and that's why we do them in competition because it just eliminates any question mark and that's it. You know, in my honest opinion, he probably did pull 501 legit than me. Yeah, but that's the point of doing a competition. There is no buts.

Yeah.

You know, it's not, it's. He did it.

Yeah.

And that's why he's come back and done it in an official competition. Even he said in his own channel, I'm doing it to shut all the people up. That Saying that one doesn't count. So even he himself admitted he understood that. He understood.

Yeah.

So.

And are you tempted to go back and do 511?

Not at all.

No.

Not at all. And as I say, I've had my day.

Yeah.

And I drew my line in the sand back in 2006. 16. You know, I set the 500 kilo deadlift in 2016 and that was my draw line in the sand. Like I, I beat the world record by 37 kilos in one day. 37. Not one. 37.

Wow.

And for me, that was, that was enough. You know, if anyone's naive enough to think I couldn't have pulled more, you're bullshitting yourself. You know. You know, I could have pulled more.

Yeah.

A year later at World's Strongest Man 2017, I was a much stronger human being. Much stronger. And I got loads of people out. Let's, let's go, let's push the boundaries more. Let's do 501, 502. And I was like, what's the point? No, no one's gonna care if I come back and do 5 or 1, 5 or 2, 5, 10. No one's gonna give a. It was that boundary, it was that magical 500 kilo boundary that I wanted to break and I broke it. And that's honestly, I am so happy and content to have done that. And I honestly believe the world record, if it wasn't for me, the world record would still be 470 kilo.

Like the four minute mile thing. Yeah.

You.

Yeah, yeah.

I honestly think if it wasn't for me, we'd still be pulling 475, 476, 477. It's because I came along, did 500 and now everyone's all of a sudden, it's possible I can do that. So I push those boundaries. So in some little way and people think of a right smug come for saying this in some little way, I am responsible for this world record getting pushed higher and higher and higher. And I commend for, for, for doing it. I've like genuinely thought, well done. Like I can say that. I don't know. No, like well done for. Well deserved. I know what it takes to pull that.

I mean, didn't it, it didn't far off nearly kill you, didn't it?

Yeah, look, and that was, that was because I just pushed the boundaries so much.

Yeah.

For my size, you know, I'm 6 foot 2 at the time was 100 and 186 kilo, just, just bang on 400 pounds at the time. Like I'm not designed to lift 500 kilo with the floor. I'm not meant to be able to lift founder Kilo the Fly. I haven't got this height, the levers, the muscle mass. I didn't have that. It was the belief in here that made me pull that. Thor on the other hand, 6 foot 10, you know, he's a natural giant.

Yeah.

He should be doing that kind of weight. He should be pushing the boundaries more and more and more. He's got so much, so much more of a bigger skeleton that he can hold so much more muscle mass than me. You should be able to lift more than me. Yeah. So fair play, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the hand of cards dealt to you by God that what you're capable of. And I was capable of 500, maybe a little bit more. Thor is capable of more. Yeah, he's capable of more than five, 10, probably 530. Probably, probably more. Maybe 540.

Yeah.

I don't know. But that's, he is genuinely that bigger human being. He should be lifting that kind of weight.

Yeah. And did you ever have any doubt, the whole lead up process? Because obviously the world watched you. Did you ever have any doubt?

Of course, nothing but doubt.

Oh really?

Yeah, nothing but doubt. Because I mean that's all I had. All I had was doubt. You know, the world, you remember the world record at the time was 463 kilos. And you can go back and look on all the Internet forums. I remember seeing it on an Internet forum. Are we going to see a five and a killer deadlift in our lifetime? And every single comment said no. Every single one. And I'm talking thousands of comments. I went back and looked. Thousands. No, it's not going to happen. So in the lead up for that, everyone saying I was deluded, I was a, I was an idiot, you know, so I had every, every single bit of negativity was against me.

Yeah.

For that deadlift. So all the doubt crept in. Yeah, of course it was, it was a tough lift. More for that, more for that moment. And to be honest, like that when I released the deadlift bar and I collapse, I did go unconscious. But afterwards it was more the, the sheer relief of all that pressure, you know, all that disbelief, all that negativity. It was just a massive, like, that was, that was a full year of pent up aggression, negativity, hatred. And it all just got released in that in that one, one like split second. So it was, it was a very surreal sort of moment. It was like every, my whole life built up to that moment, you know, and in, in a bit like Roger Bannister. Roger Bannister did the four minute mile claps. Nearly died and go back and watch it. Yeah, like literally nearly died. And now there's people running it like it's nothing. Yeah, but it's that boundary, isn't it? If you've got that boundary to, to, to bust through, then you've got so much more mental pressure and I think that makes it so much more harder but also so much more relieving afterwards.

Have you ever had any health scares?

The only. What is it now? So the only health scare I had really was five weeks before I won the World's Strongest man. As I went to a doctor and had a full blood works and everything was on the brink. Like kidney markers were like off the charts, Liver markers were off the charts. The biggest concern was my hemoglobin, like the thickness and sludge of the blood. You know, how could the consistency of your blood. And he just put me into like he drew it on a memory, drawing it on a piece of paper for me and be like, right, so you've got the, the fat bastard scale and you've got someone at. See if that's like a chart here, right? So you've got someone like 100 kilo, you know, a big human being, you know, that's going to be like getting on the top end of that scale is like, you know, heart attack risk, stroke risk. And then you've got someone like 22, 24 stone, like 130, 140 kilo. They're like way off the chart, you know, they're like that, that you're in danger zone here, you know what I mean? Your hemoglobins are fake, your liver and kidneys are on the brink. I was 200 kilo. So when you put me, when he wrote it down and put me into a chart, you've got high risk, super high risk. And then I was like, Eddie, whole risk. I was up here like off the charts. And he said like, that's like, that's like heart attack and a stroke risk. Very high, extremely high. Definitely going to have heart attack and a stroke. And it was like, wow. And that's when it sort of hit me is like, I am on the fucking brink.

Wow.

Everything was working overtime to keep my body from having a heart attack or a stroke, right? So that's why I won my title and retired. Just get that body weight down instantly. Just get those markers down and just get myself out of that danger zone territory.

Did that scare you?

Of course, yeah. Yeah. I mean, when a doctor's looking at you and he's saying, if I lined up 18 million people up or 70 million people up at the time, the whole population of the uk, if you lined everybody up in a row, like, who's most likely to have a heart attack in the stroke, he said you'd be at the top of that list. I'm like, yeah, that's.

Wow.

It just made sense when he laid it out like that, put it in the chart and talked about the P. You know, you're the most likely. And I remember there was like. And we all get it, you know, you're sort of driving to the gym and you felt like a little palpitation in your chest. You're like, oh, this is it. You know, you'd have these scares. But for me, those were real concerns.

Yeah.

You know, you get those little. There's little ache or something in the chest. You. But, oh, this is it. Oh, God, no. And then you recover, but it's fine, I'll carry on.

Yeah.

But those were real concerns for me and I'll never forget that. The last five weeks of training for the World's Strongest man, and I was like, it's almost like a suicide mission. It was almost like I just didn't care because I wanted to win that title so badly. It was either win the World's Strongest man or life is not worth living for. So I was honestly going to bed every night and I sort of had the conversation in my head is like, if you don't wake up tomorrow, are you going to be sorry? And I'd be like, it. You know, I have to win this title. I honestly thought I'd go to bed every night thinking I wasn't going to wake up the next day. That's. That was my. That was my sleep routine of, like, talking to myself, of, like, trying to convince myself that nearly dying or possibly dying is going to be worth it in the long run. And it was.

It was.

I mean, it was.

But it sounds like that's what it took.

Yeah. No, it's hard. Yeah. It's life on the line. Shit.

Wow.

People. People say you take risks and put your body out there. That's. That's taking the risk. Put in for my height, weighing 200 kilo was surreal.

And what's the heaviest you've ever weighed? Exactly.

Exactly. 196 kilo is my heaviest.

Right.

So that's 32 stone.

Just shy of at 6 foot 2.

6 foot 2.

Not at 6 foot 9 or 10.

No, no, this is the thing. I was as heavy as Thor and Brian and whoever else, but six, seven inches shorter than them, eight inches shorter than four.

So can you set a straight on what really happened when you were caught threatening to rip someone's head off?

I was wondering what you're gonna ask me that. I mean, geez, man. I mean, look, you. You've. You've seen my house. You know, it's a very recognizable house. It's the talk of the town. You know, everybody knows where Eddie all lives, which is fine.

I mean, you. I mean, it's obvious at the gates.

Yeah, yeah, it's. I can't. I can't. Unless I lived out in the countryside, but I just can't do to my family. Just away from my family. All my family's around here.

Yeah.

I just. There's no way. There's no way around it going to get noticed, you know, and the house is going to get noticed, the vehicles are going to get noticed. The tank. There's just no hiding. Where I live, there's no hiding it. So attention comes, you know, and attention comes when I'm out and about, when I'm out with my kids, you know, go to restaurants, go to the supermarket. It's just a constant. I don't want to say a drag, because it's not, you know, I. I appreciate it, but it's a constant, like, pull on my life. It's a constant pull. So I guess when I'm out and about and I'm getting all that attention and I'm with my family, you know, I'm pushing my kids on the swing and somebody's asking me for a picture.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, in a meal with my family and someone's asking me for a picture. So I guess when I have all that, you want to come back to escape. Right. So this is. This is like my castle. Yeah. This is the place I. I get away from all that. I get away from all that hassle, all the pictures, all the questions, all the whatever. I get away from it all. It's all happened. That's where the peace and the chaos divides. Right. So people coming to my house disrupts that, that divide, that. That peace, chaos. And when that divide is disrupted is when I lose my shit. Yeah. I just. I cannot stand it when people think that they own me or own a part of Me or deserve to take a bit of my private life and make it theirs. That's where. That's where it starts and begins and ends right in there.

Yeah.

So they were the first ones to come to my house and ask for pictures and knock on and whatever else, and they probably won't be the last, but usually when people hang around or knock on, you know, they usually. I'll kind of have a picture about. No, Luke, this is my place of peace. This is my home and I can't do a picture review because if I do one with you, you'll put it online and then everybody knows you can go to the house and do a picture. So out of principle, I just cannot do a picture. Very sorry. See you on the street, you know, come, come meet me. An expo, whatever. So. And they always understand and they always walk away, like, sorry for disturbing you, and they bugger off. Yeah, Right, these. So they turn up outside my house at nine o' clock on a bank holiday Monday. Kids are being put in bed. The youngest one of them's in bed, one of them's been put to bed and they come back, the Dr. Honking the horns as they're driving past. They come back round and they sit right outside my driveway, like, blocking the driveway with the cars. And then there's one the other side and there's one the other side of the road. So it looks like a gang's turned up to my house. Now. I just happened. I'm not here very often, if I'm being honest, so I just happened to be in the garden with my son, having a cigar, buy a fire pit, just enjoying myself, just, you know, a bit of quality time with my son. And Alex rings me up, I said, there's someone at the gate. Right, you need to go and tell them to off now. And I had. I had no idea what had gone on. And she's. And then she tells me quickly what's happened. So Alex had asked him to go out, she went out, so can you move on, please? They said no. Basically we just, you know, you can't tell us what to do. She left it 5, 10 minutes, went back out again. I can't remember. The people start saying, you're making up here, but you can go back on the YouTube video I made and see exactly what happened. She went back out, asked him again, maybe a third time. And then she came to me and said, look, there's some people outside, they won't leave. They keep beeping the horns. And I could hear horns going, but that's quite common, you know, you get people driving past, hogging horns. I just like, whatever, don't bother me. But she came to me and told me and I just. When she told me she'd asked him to leave three times over the space of 20 minutes. I just got in my head, like, I'm not around with these people. Like, it's 9 o' clock at night, my kids are in bed. This is my place of peace. They. They're going, like, I don't want to hear what they've got to say. I don't want to hear. They want a picture. I don't want to hear that. The fans just off, right? So that's exactly what I do. I go out and I say, mate, I don't care what you're gonna say. Don't care what you want. This is the first car. Just drive away. Just get away from my house. This is my place of peace. I then go to the second car. He. He understood the assignment. You could see how angry I was. He just began to drive off. And then the third car was the one parked outside my gate. And yeah, I mean, you'll see the interaction. But yeah, I just sort of, you know, just, mate, just off. I don't. I don't care what you want, what you've got to say, off. And he said, oh, but, yeah, but I just want a picture. And I'm like, I don't care, just get the. Away from house. Yeah, but my kids, My kids just want a picture. Like, you're upsetting my kids. And I'm like, you know, just in the heat of the moment, just like, mate, I don't give a. About your kids. What about my kids that you're waking up beeping your horn. I said, just off. And as he put it in gear and drove off, and as he was driving off, he lit me dead in the eyes and said, I'm gonna knock you the out. And honestly, you know when you just see red, like nothing was stopping me. You could have had a brick wall in front of me, I would have knocked it down to get to this. Anyway, luckily, he just drove away and I, in chase in my Crocs, gave him a little bit of a chase. And I saw one of them was filming. We went to grab his phone, didn't quite get it. I was just gonna get his phone and throw it in a bush just like your little. And then the next, like, within an hour, it was online, right, so we're talking like half past ten on a. On a bank holiday. Monday night I was so chill and then my, my phone just lights up, just bing, bing, bing, bing. And I'm like, Jesus. And it got online and within, I'm gonna say within an hour it had something like 13 million views, right? The sun had reposted it. All the, all the shitty crappy news, English newspapers, the, what you call them, the, the tabloids, whatever, they just grabbed it and just threw it everywhere. And of course the title was Roid Rage Road Rage White. And it just made out as though I just done this on the street. Like I just chased these guys and it upset these guys, kids. And I was screaming and shouting and threatened to kill people. And so it just painted me as this absolute ogre, like this guy that just wants to kill kids. And, and you know, it just, it just made me look so bad. And I was reading the Cat within the hour at something like 6,6000 comments, let's say. And I didn't see one positive comment, not a one. I was, it was all like, what a. Let's all go to his house. What a knob. Disgusting. I hope he gets cancelled. It was just one after the other and it was just getting worse and worse and worse. So I, I didn't sleep a wink. So I had to like read all this. I managed to get like an hour's sleep, woke up in the morning, I was like, right, my brother hung me up sort of mid morning and he's in charge of like my, my companies and everything. And he went, just so you know, Ed, he said, I've seen what's, what's going on. He said, just know your, your websites have done zero sales this morning. Zero. He said, that's never happened before. He said, you're being cancelled. And I was like, what?

Zero sales? Zero.

All my sites?

I thought you were going to say it blown up.

Zero. Like it. You know, we're talking a lot of money. Yeah, absolutely zero. And I employ a lot of people. So obviously that just put the panic through absolutely everybody in the family, in the businesses. And he sort of said like, I wasn't going to do anything about it. And he was just like, ed, you've got to do a response. So I was like, right, okay, I've got to get the truth out there. And then I obviously managed to muster all the cct, cctv, get all that together, did a voiceover, did or whatever, sat down in the office, did all that. And I sent it me editor and I was just like, is this gonna work? Is this gonna get my reputation back? Yeah. And luckily, it all changed. It just went completely the other way. It was like, oh my God, he all's so justified in this. Like, those guys, I was on their side to begin with, but now they can go themselves and it just completely reversed. It just, it went completely other way. So thankfully, that sort of statement on my YouTube channel put everybody right. I'm sure there were people out there that didn't watch that statement, that will have just seen those, you know, the tabloid headlines and then that's it. They just make the decision, don't they?

Yeah.

You know, I'll always be that road race age that chase kids down the street. So the damage was done, like, no matter what damage was done. But it was to get my fans back on side of. Like, I am not that person. I don't go out and scream at people for no reason. These are outside my house for 20 minutes, honking their horns, telling my wife to off and whatever else. So, yeah, there's limits and there's boundaries that if you pushed, things can happen. And that was just one of those times. But I will say this, since that incident, I've had one person knock on my house, one person. And it was an old man asking me to move a radiator in his house.

So everyone's got their message.

So everybody. So I'm actually as stressful as it was at the time. I am super thankful that it happened because it's made people aware that, you know, somebody's place of peace is their place of peace and you should not disturb it. So it's actually done me a massive favor. Yeah.

I mean, how can anyone in their right mind think they're going to get a photo after all that? I'll just piss the world's strongest man off for 20 minutes even more and I'll get my photo.

I honestly, it just, it's beyond me. But you'd be amazed what people do for. To get their precious picture for Facebook or Instagram, you know, people will do anything and they don't give a who the upset or.

But isn't it better to like have a good engagement with the person? I'd never want to photo.

I would say so I'd want to.

Get on with the person, not have a photo.

Yeah, I much more appreciate, like if I'm out with my family, someone just coming up to me like, hey, how you doing, man? You okay? Great work. Like, great content. See it, mate. I, I love that.

Yeah.

But when people come up, can I can I Don't even ask me how I am no, they ignore my family, which is good in a way.

Yeah.

It's like, let's have a quick pict. And I'm like, mate, I'm with my family. Yeah, There was an incident and this. This is the main reason I don't do pictures when I'm with my family now. So there was an incident, this happened quite recently, where I was in a park and I was pushing my kids, both my kids on this swing, on the, Like, a big circle swing. And I would say at least three people came and asked me for a picture. Why? So I was pushing my kids on the swing, and every time I was like, no, I'm sorry, I can't take my eyes off my kids. Like, I'm pushing my kids on the swing. And everyone was like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. So they get it right, that journey from the park to my car, another 10 pictures. And I do them, you know, if I'm not, whatever, I'll do my pictures. And then I was putting my youngest daughter, she was only eight months at the time, I was putting it into a car seat, right? And it's a very bucket car seat. So I'm strapping her in. And then some. Someone taps him in the shoulder. Eddie, can I have a quick picture? And I turn around, I was gonna say, no, like, I'm. I'm busy. I turned around, there was a little boy there, nan, granddad, mum, dad, brothers, sisters. And they're all like that say, okay, right, let's do this picture. So I do this picture, right, thank you very much. They bugger off. As I turned back round, my daughter fell out the car seat, head first on the floor, completely knocked out, right, Unconscious. And I picked her up and she's literally. Have you ever seen someone break the back? And they go, like. They go like, spasm.

Oh, wow.

And she went into this like. She was like a board. Just went, no, no noise from her. Just went stiff as a board. And I was instantly, like. I was like, I broke her back or something, so she's unconscious. So I chucked her in the. In the car, drove to the hospital at 100 miles an hour, got in there and got that dealt with. But it was the fact that this family is so innocent, isn't it? Yeah, it's so innocent. Asking me for a picture when I wear my face sounds so innocent. But that. That picture resulted in my daughter going to A E. And it's. It's like people just don't think about that kind of, you know, when I'm pushing my kids on this, let's say I did that picture with somebody when I'm pushing my kids on the swing. I turned back and when I was on the floor with a broken neck. It's just people just don't respect those boundaries. And that's what, that's what boils me a little bit. It's like you've got to respect those boundaries. When a man's with his family, can leave him alone.

Do you have anger? Do you sometimes find it hard to control anger?

I would say anger has been a big part of my life. You know, my younger years I was very angry. You know, teenager, loved a scrap. And I guess I would actively go and find fights because I was just angry. You know, a lot of shit happened. It just made me angry. And I think that quite lucky really is I found the gym, found Strongman and that's given me an outlet. But when I don't have those goals and I don't have those things to chase and things that keep my mind busy, I, I do find myself getting agitated and angry and I don't think it, it's not, it's not like, it's not who I am as a person. I think it's the, it's honestly the adhd. I think it's something that I've got that much pent up energy if I'm not expelling it. I almost can stir myself up to a point where I'm so agitated, you know, I'll snap at anyone for this littlest things. So I found over the years that that is, I mean that's sort of like self diagnosed. But that's the reason why I get angry, is I'm not expelling my energy. And this is the important reason why I always have to reset my goals and keep chasing things is to keep that anger down, keep that depression down. You know, I just think of it as like a, like a, like a bottle of water. Right. So you've got depression, anxiety and anger and over time it sort of builds up. Right. And then you go to the gym, it comes back down.

Yeah, you look so happy when you do that.

Yeah. And then, you know, you're in the supermarket, I'm out with my kids and I'm going work and doing expos? And it's just about, boy, I'm gonna go to the gym and it comes back down and that's how I explain it to people. Is just about to foam over and I'll bring it back down again with a good gym session. Yeah, that's How I control myself, you know, and it's not, I'm not an angry person, but I feel like the, the way my brain ticks can, can look like I'm an angry person.

Do you still back Trump?

Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. I think Trump, like love him, I hate him. I think he's doing what the people want deep down. I think, you know, he's a man of the people and, you know, he's not even my president, but I can just see from an outside perspective, in my opinion, I just feel like he's doing good things. He's just talking sense, he's being real. He's not bowing down to woke bullshit. He's keeping, in my opinion, is keeping America on a good track. Whether people sort of agree or disagree on that, that's totally down to them. I'm not going to get into that shit. But I support Trump. I think of all the presidents we've had so far, I think he's been the one that's been the most relatable to the people.

And how do you think our Prime Minister is in terms of.

Keir Starmer is the biggest cunt on planet Earth.

Don't hold it back.

I'm not going to hold it back. He is a specky eyed, Honestly, I, I can't think of any more bloke that's more hated in the UK right now than Keir Starmer. He has backtracked and gone back on so many different things in Britain and people have just had enough. You know, you speak to the Joe Public, everyone's just had enough. The, the imm, the taxes, the school and this digital id, it's just, it just, he's not listening to the people, what the people want and that's what makes him a bad Prime Minister, is not listening to the general public.

Why do you think he's not, why is he so tone deaf?

I think they just live in, honestly, I think the mps and that, that sort of, I think they just live in a different world to us. I don't think they have to deal with our shit. You know, they don't live next to these immigration hotels, they don't have kids that live next to these immigration hotels that are getting sexually abused and molested and they're not getting family members, they're getting attacked and raped and everything doesn't affect them. So they're in a different world. They earn these, you know, this, this higher bracket of income. They live in these high castles, they live in these, you know, high tier houses in London, they're just in a different bubble towards. And I genuinely think someone like Keir Starmer would do him a world of good. Come and live in the center of Birmingham. Go and live in the center of Birmingham for two weeks, three weeks, and just get, just get stuck in, just go to the shops, just go, you know, go to a garage, go to a, go to a supermarket, go and have a pint and just see what the people are saying and see what's happening on the streets. I think that's what the, that's what our Prime Minister should do, is lower himself down to the general public's level and realize that he's serving the wrong people. He's serving the MPs and everybody else. He's not serving the mass population in the country.

Would you leave? How are you feeling about staying here?

I'm getting off with it. Yeah. It's. It's got to the point now where they keep doing all these surveys and everything about how we can increase taxes and every single time, it always pulled, always points to the wealthy, right? So it always points to people like myself, like, pay more tax. I tell you now, I pay more tax than most people in this world. And to point the finger at us and say, just pay more tax. It's, it's. That's just such a way out of it. And a Prime Minister should be thinking of ways to fix that. Number one, stop immigration. Stop illegal immigration. That would fix so much funding in this country. The amount of our tax money going on illegal immigrants is insane.

Five and a half million a day. Just for the hotels, just, Just for the hotels.

Just for the hotels. Don't factor in the laptops, the phones.

The PlayStations, the bikes, PlayStations, the bikes, the food.

They even get 500 quid on the birthday. Did you know that? Did you know that?

I didn't before. You told me before.

Mine. 500 quid on their birthday. My son doesn't get 500 quid off the government on the birthday, you specky. I cunt. So, yeah, I'm just, I'm just done with it. Like there's better ways to save tax money rather than pointing the finger at the super rich. And it's just because people like myself will just pick up shop and off and then the country will be worse off, way worse off. And that's what's happened in other countries is they've pointed the finger at the mega rich, they've made him pay more tax and what happens? They leave off to Dubai, they off to wherever and then that tax never happens.

And then the working class have to pay more.

And then the working class have to pay more. So just use common sense and it's so easy. Like you do these polls and they give them to the general public and of course they're going to say tax the wealthy more because they don't know any better. But what really needs to happen is the MP should be going, right, where can we actually save money? You know, stuff like illegal immigration. Let's that off before we start taxing our own people.

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Oh, that's a good question. I, you know, if you, deep down inside, I would love him to be. And deep down inside I would love to push him hard and pressure him to do that. But I feel like, and I've been there myself, if you put too much pressure on a kid, they go the opposite way and they almost like want to defy their parents. So.

Did you ever do that?

What?

To my son, Defy your parents?

So I had it when I was, when I was Max's age, I was like a national champion swimmer. Like a very, like, Olympic standard. I was on the junior Olympic team. And up until that point, it was super relaxed. You know, they would, like, take me to training, drop me off. You can lead me to it. Wouldn't he, you know, they come to the odd competition. Oh, well done. You got another first, you know. But the second I got put onto this Olympic squad was the second it got serious. And the second my parents were like, right, you've got to go this training session. Oh, you finished 10 minutes early. That's not good. You got to make it up next and like, turning up to the competitions. But, like, everything just took it up a mega serious notch. And it just made me hate it. The second my parents started pushing me into training is the second I hate it. And the Second, my. My times and my PBS and results just went up. Just dropped out the ass.

Yeah.

So I've been there myself, and I know what pressure from your parents does. Support, you know, just taking me there. Have a good session, picking me up. Oh, you won. Another goal. Well done. Support is great, but pressuring, like, you've got to go to session, you've got to do this many lamps. You've got to do what the coach says. Those are two totally different things.

Yeah.

So, I mean, with Max, I said for years, come the gym with me. Like from age five, come the gym. And he's always said, no, dad, no, no, no, no. He said, When I'm 10, I'll come training with you. 10 sounds like a good age. And you know what? I stepped back. I was like, you know, he's right. You know, body development and everything. He's probably right. Yeah. Leaving till he's 10. And then on his 10th birthday, we started training here in the gym. So I go in the gym four times a week, two hours a session. And he's done that consistently now for three years. He's just turned 13.

Wow.

So he's, you know, barely missed any training sessions. And any time I've tried to push him, we've just butted heads. Like, anytime I tried to force him to do anything or do a heavier weight, I almost feel like we could just break loose and break into a fistfight at any second. And honestly, I'm actually quite scared of the little bastard. He's going to be so much bigger than me. So pressure is not the way, you know, I'm giving him the tools. I hire a coach for him. So I had a coach for the whole family. Just like pts for my mom, my dad, my, you know, my wife, my son, whoever, you know, whoever's in the family, you know, and he takes him to the gym and he does the sessions with him and he does his programming. And it works really well because he's got a mate, he's got someone he can talk to. He's got something he can, you know, talk about girlfriends and whatever else and. And whatever goes on at school. And he's got, like. I've sort of like, employed his best friend for him.

Yeah.

You know, to go and take in the gym, which has been great. And he. I feel like that gets the best out of it.

You must secretly want to train with him, though.

Yeah, no, I do, yeah. Now and again. I'll join in, like, okay.

You know, he's cool with that election.

He's Cool. Yeah. Now and again and be like, right, I'll ring his coach up about I'm going to take him today because sometimes I just like to remind him what hard work is. So now and again, you know, his coach off, right, mate, we're gonna train hard today, you know what I mean? And we'll go and I'll push him on absolutely everything. And he knows it and he says it, but I'll just say like, you know, that's, this is how you should, this is how I train, you know, this, if you want to be a top level strongman, this is what you got to do. So now and again I'll do that with him. And I think it clicks, you know, it goes back to his coach and he does push that little bit harder.

Yeah.

So it's little incentives, little, little pushes. But not, not to the point where if he's not doing the reps or if he fails something, I'm getting angry with him.

Yeah.

You know, because that, that's, that's quite an easy thing to do, isn't it? Get angry with your kid for underperforming and I don't want to be that parent.

No. And he's what, 13 is he now?

Just turned 13.

And what's he deadlifting?

160 kilos.

Most adults can't do that.

So I weighed him Yesterday actually. He's 101 kilos.

He's 13. What year is that in school?

Year nine. Just gone into.

He must be twice the size of.

All the other kids and also the youngest as well. If he was another two weeks younger, it'd still be in year eight. So he's, he's ginormous. Absolutely ginormous. He's five foot eleven. I mean basically six foot. You know, he's, he's a big. Yeah, he's going to be. If he's, if he's under 6 foot 5, I'll be very surprised, you know.

Yeah, we're gonna be bigger than you.

He's gonna be bigger than me. Yeah, that's for sure.

If you could pick one thing to do consistently that is the best thing to train, to get strong, the one thing, what would it be?

I mean, it's got to be the deadlift. I think if you're going to pick one exercise for the rest of your life to keep, keep fit, keep strong and keep everything good strength, I would say deadlift, because it trains absolutely everything. It does. You know, you think about it, you stood on your feet for, to start with, so you're Working your feet, your calves, in some ways, you know, when you stoop down, you're working your glutes, your hamstrings. Yeah.

Because you feel it there as well.

Your core, front and back, your upper back.

Right.

Your grip, your forearms, your biceps, everything's taking a blast. Anything it's not blasting really is. Your pecs and shoulders.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I would say the deadlift pretty much hitting every muscle group in one go.

Okay, thank you. And then what about a hack, diet wise? What's one thing that you just think really helps with strength in your diet?

So I've started doing the Carnivore diet, which has been absolutely phenomenal for me. So for years and years and years, especially in the strong Mondays, I would consume loads of carbs. Like, you know, I would have for my lunch, I would have like half a kilo steak and hot, like getting towards a kilo of pasta. Sometimes it was not far off those. Yeah, yeah. And then for pudding, I'd have like half a family cheesecake. So. So, like the carbs for me was stupid. Like, stupid amount of carbs.

And were you, were you doing that to get bigger or just because you loved eating carbs?

I think both.

Yeah.

I think to get big carbs is the way.

Yeah.

You want to put size on and, you know, mass cops. But now I'm in my later years, I would say the best hack is, is just eating meat. Yeah. Just like the Carnivore diet, just meat, eggs and dairy. And that, that has honestly been a game changer for me. It has absolutely transformed my life mentally, physically. Like, I'm sleeping better. I'm so much, got so much more clarity. I'm remembering things more. My all my blood markers have improved. Every single one has got better. I feel better. My information's better. I'm not as sore, I'm not as laggy. I've got more energy. Wow. Because I'm performing just off fats, so my energy levels are actually better. I'm. My cardiovascular is stupid compared to what it, what used to be. You know, I'm training five minute rounds in, in MMA at the minute and at the end of the five minutes, I'm like, could go again. You know, it's, it's, it's surreal what this diet. And I would, I was. If somebody told me in the strongman days you could eat nothing but meat and be super strong and fit, I'd be like, off. That's. There's no way. But now I've done it and like, I've Cut the carbs out. It is a game changer.

So you've completely cut carbs out of you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not super, super strict on it. And there will be times, like sometimes I'll do like Monday to Friday, nothing but meat. At the weekends, you know, no carbs.

Wow. And you don't feel lethargic or great.

Awesome. And, you know, the weekends I'm not like, super strict. So at the weekends, I want a bit of sourdough with my eggs for breakfast. I'll have some sourdough, let's say on a Saturday, Sunday night, everyone's having a takeaway. I'll have a takeaway, but I'll just. But I'll just keep that in mind. So I'll just say if you're having a Chinese, I'll have loads of meat and just have a little bit of noodles. You know, just keep the carbs right down. And I still feel good. So that's been a really good hack for me. And.

And is there a limit to the meat you can eat? You just keep ramming it down.

Keep, ram it down. I think there's been studies, so I'm bigger into longitivity at the minute. And there's studies on red meat and longitivity. So the government will tell you that the more red meat you eat, the shorter your lifespan and the more chance of death. But if you actually delve into it and go into the studies, so the people that eat the most red meat on the planet is Japan.

Right.

And Japan have got the longest lifespan of anyone else on the planet. And then I think, second me, I can't. I can't think right now. But let's say second was like, Thailand, I don't know. And they ate the second amount of most red meat on the planet and they had the second longest lifespan. So there's a massive correlation between red meat and the lifespan of a human being.

Wow. So you're not, like, talking about having protein supplements. You're getting it mostly through actually eating red meat.

Yeah, I might have my subs, but yeah, I'd say 99 of my intake is. Is meat, which is great.

Because what man doesn't love in steak?

I mean, it's great. That's a.

This is a glitch in the Matrix.

It is a glitch. And like, you think, how do you do that? And there's so many things like if for breakfast, I'm having salmon eggs, a little bit of, like, Greek yogurt, sometimes lunch is always like, Half a kilo ribeye steaks. I'll have chicken wings, I'll have black pudding, I'll have halloumi cheese. You know, there's just so much stuff out there and I, I, sorry, tell a lie. I obviously eat quite a bit fermented foods as well.

Right.

So I'll eat like it has to be live cultured sauerkraut and live cultured kimchi. So I'll eat stuff like that. That's why it's sourdough bread sometimes, because it's live cultured. So stuff like anything that keeps your bacteria good.

Yeah.

As well.

Who is, pound for pound, the strongest person you've ever seen? Pound for pound.

I'm gonna go with a gentleman called Ed Cohen.

Ah, that surprises me. Yeah, I thought you might say Magnus. He's a bit of a beast, isn't he?

No, no, no. So, Ed Cohen. Yeah, give him a Google. Ed Cohen, phenomenal power lifter from back in the day. So I'm sure he weighed, he weighed something like 70 kilo and he was deadlifting 420.

Wow.

Like just the most ridiculous, ridiculous, like pound to like body weight ratio you've ever seen. So I'm gonna say a pound for pound strongest man that's ever been, Ed Cohen.

And how do you think he got that strong then?

That light away dedication. Firstly having that mindset of pushing the boundaries, but a little bit of genetics, you know, good bone structures, good cartilage strength and everything else. Long arms, you know, to help you lift longer off the floor. But mainly I would just say mindset, you know, just a bloke that's like, right, I'm going to do something so drastically different to everybody else and push the boundaries harder than everybody else. Putting those extra hours in the gym, eating those extra bits of, you know, meat and proteins and whatever else. So that's what sets apart a champion from a loser is mindset.

Right. How do you push yourself to the absolute limits but not over train, get injured and go backwards?

That's a real tough one. So pushing yourself to the absolute limits when you are young is great.

It's no downside.

Oh man, it's great.

Yeah.

I remember being 21 years of age, 22 years of age, I would train all week, I would then go out the weekend, get blasted up on cocaine, whatever else. I would compete on the weekend as well and strongman competitions and then I'd be back in the gym Monday and I do that quite religiously.

Yeah.

And then I think you got to like age 26 stop the drugs by that age. But I'd say by age 26, like you do, you do a week of training, you do your competition and you need a week off. And then when you hit 36, it's two weeks off, you know, and you just feel age and growth hormones and like that, that ability to recover diminishes so fast. So you've got to listen to your body, right. And I would say when I was a teenager, I, I don't think, I honestly didn't think there's any such thing as over training because I would train for 3, 4 hours every single night after a 10 hour shift at work. And then I'd go work the doors till, you know, eight at night, till two in the morning, I'd go to bed for four hours, I'd get up and do it all again. And I'd do that for years, like up until I was like 25, 26 and I felt invincible. And then as I say, you just, you know, like they say, the human body ages at certain brackets. And I think that's the same with, with sports. You sort of have brackets like 16 to say 24, you know, you're in this bracket of like, you can recover from anything within three days. And then once you get past 24 to say 32, you're in another bracket where it takes you maybe five, six days to recover. So you've just got to listen to your body, you know, you've got to, you've got it.

What does that mean?

So if you're feeling sore and you're going into the gym to train that body part again, maybe you shouldn't be doing it, right. If you've got a niggle, you've got a little injury in your arm or you know, your back sore or whatever. Sometimes you just got to be like, right, I'm going to take today off and that will do me more good having a day off than going and training hard. I mean, to me now, at my size, at my age I'm 37. I mean, there'd be days, I've worked with coaches in the past where, you know, we'll do weights in the morning, we'll do swimming in the afternoon, and they'll do fight training in the evening. And you know, you do that for a few weeks and you destroyed and you realize you, you can have the weekend. I know you want you in Saturday morning and you go in Saturday morning and then you've absolutely fried and you've burnt out. Yeah. And you just, you know, you, you you, you're going backward. So you've got to, you've got to, you've got to listen to yourself and sometimes you've got to tell coaches off sometimes and be like, no. Why? I'm tired, my back hurts, I've got a bad foot, I need the session off or I need a week off. You just got to listen to your body. That's, that's the number one thing, is listen to your body. If you're, if you're training through injuries and you're turning up to sessions already f ed, then you're probably doing something wrong.

And should you. If you're just an ordinary person training, but you want to progress, should you be progressing every session or is that unrealistic? And, you know, obviously I'm, you know, I'm not a Greek statue, but I do try and work out a bit and sometimes I can bang out 12 good chin ups and sometimes I can only get eight out.

Yeah.

And I'm thinking, there's no point doing my workout today because I'm not progressing. Or is it just because I'm maybe not hydrated? It's maybe just I'm not feeling good and I should carry on training. See what I mean? Should you always be progressing?

Yeah. So I'll tell you a story that will proper resonate with that. So I would say, age 21, I hit a 420 kilo deadlift. Wow. At 21 years of age. I then came back every single week, every single Thursday, I'd come in the week and I'd try and beat 420 kilo. So what, what would happen? Every single week, I'd come back and pull 420. Sometimes it'd be done easy, sometime it done hard.

Yeah.

But anytime I put any more weight on, like 4:30, I'd fail. Right. And I did this for four years.

Oh, wow.

Right. And it wasn't until somebody actually, like, spoke to me, is, all right, slow down a minute, take a step back. The human, and this is what broke it down for me is like, the human body cannot recover from a maximal deadlift within seven days. It takes 10 days to recover from a maximum deadlift effort. So with that in mind, that's all he said to me. And then with that in mind, I went away and was like, right, how the can I get around this then? So what I worked out is I do a week of heavy and a week of speed. So I do a week of heavy lifting where I do, I don't know. And then implemented reps. I do Like a week of like say 5 reps at 400 kilo and the next week I'd do 8 sets of 2 at like 50, like 210 kilo or whatever and just do it as fast as I could. And that way I'm still training the fast twitch fibers, but I'm allowing the body to actually recover. Right. And once I implemented that, that was, I'm gonna say when I was 26, something like that, within, within a year I got up to 460 kilos. And then I use that method to go on and on and eventually pull 500. And it was just that, that one person said to me, it's like your body just cannot recover from the maximum left every, every week. So you've gotta, you gotta go back to the drawing board and think. And that'll be the same with your pull ups, right? So you've gotta, you've gotta treat your body like if you think your body can come back every week and give maximum effort, it just can't takes more than seven days because you're ripping all that muscle, all that fiber.

Yeah.

It's gonna take you 10 days to recover from that. So you've got to do something in the, to carry you over whilst it's still repairing. Right.

So one week heavy, one week fast.

I would say that works a lot for this is why like we have heavy weeks and deload weeks, you know, it doesn't work for everything. I say with bench you're better off just staying heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, then have a deload week, you know, because it's such a smaller muscle group. Right. So you can perhaps get away with it. Lack pull ups lats. It's quite a big muscle group. So you know, it's gotta, you've got to factor it in. Legs is a big muscle group. So again I'll do like a weaker heavy, a weaker speed. Right, Those kind of things.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah.

Okay, why MMA now? Like you only just kind of got into boxing and now it's mma.

I, I guess the, obviously the boxing journey was like we spoke last time was a tough journey and I feel like boxing is, although a great sport, is a very restrictive sport for a big muscle bound man like myself. So after the fight with Thor is just like come back. Well, I had a good two years of just, well a year and a half of just letting go. Like I had a break and geez, I'm gonna say like 15 years, like just had no breaks, like very, very few holidays and I just let Go. I don't know if you notice, I put a lot of weight on during that period, but I was also working with a hormone doctor and I managed to get my sperm count back up and I managed to have two, two more children during that period as well. So it was like a nice big reset, you know, finished the boxing, just stop everything. Did a little bit of weights, but just like, just to reset two more kids. It was like something that I really needed in my life, just to reset myself. And then the. The challenge, it came along actually, to fight Brian Shaw, Mitchell Hooper and Martin Ford in a four, four way MMA fight.

Just like a free for all.

I think it was two fight, right? So I think I was going to fight Mitchell Hooper and then the winner of that one would fight the winner of Martin Ford, Brian Shaw.

Yeah.

And then certainly like a four man eliminator. Sorry. Yeah. So I signed this deal, like life changing money, stupid money. And I went on this quest to become an MMA fighter. And during that six month period, I just really enjoyed myself, you know, lost a lot of weight, learning something new every single day. And then that fight got canceled. The Ministry of Sport got arrested for fraud in Qatar, and that big paycheck fell through.

Oh, no.

Six months of my life down the drain.

How much was it they were paying?

My contract was for 20 million. Yeah.

And you never got it.

And I never got a penny. Six months training. Yeah. Six months of my life committed, fully committed, nothing but mma. Turning down hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of work, obviously neglecting my other work, neglecting my, you know, sort of soul career, which is lifting weights and YouTube. Everything was neglected.

Yeah.

So it was like a massive frustration of like, all that prep for core and I've got to do something with it, so how can I challenge myself? And the challenge was to fight somebody who had done big waves in the MMA world and someone that was gonna create some big attention. And then Marius Podnoski came to mind and I hooked up with this MMA coach, G. Oaks and his son Jake Oaks, and we went on this journey and we did pretty much from the, from the day of visualization, like, all right, I want to fight Mary Spanowski. Pretty much a year later, I was in the ring with Marius. So it was, it was all, I, I guess accidental, but then worked out pretty well. It's something that I enjoy and I'm still actively, you know, looking for more fights now. And yeah, it was something that I feel it was very needed in my life because I think it's very easy for People like myself to win the world's strongest man like I did and then retire and you just turn into a massive fat slob. So. So which I. So it was nice to give myself a challenge and stop myself from turning into that.

Yeah. And who's your next fight then?

So I'm in talks at the minute with a few federations about fighting Dylan Danis who is the like a world renowned probably. I think he won some big titles in jiu jitsu.

Yeah.

Quite a badass. You know, he's got a lot of fights and then obviously you've seen him fight on Misfits.

Yeah.

And stuff like that. A bit of a love him hating character.

Yeah.

So yeah, Dylan Danis has all been. Well, we, we get the. Get some contracts signed and hopefully off we go.

And he is a lot smaller than you, so I guess you're gonna have to cut.

I mean from. Right. So from face value it looks very unfair because he's, he weighs 80 kilo a new way, 165. Hear me out though. Okay. So face value, it seems very unfair. Yeah. But from what I gather, he walks around close to 100 kilo.

Okay.

And as part of the stipulation, I've got to come down to under 300 pounds which is 130 kilo or 135 kilo. So come the fight there will only be around 35 kilo difference.

I mean that's still a lot.

It's still a lot, but it's nowhere near as you know. It's not 80 kilos.

No. And he's a pretty much a professional fighter.

He is a professional fighter. Yeah. He's been doing it full time for his whole life. Yeah, I've been doing it a year and a half. So it's so face value it sounds like, oh, you're gonna mince him. But by the time, by the time you factored in the weight loss, his weight gain, the round times, obviously everything's going to be in his favor. It's going to be five minute rounds.

Oh, so you'll just sign that off, will you?

Well, I'll have to. I have to sort of give him every advantage because I've got the biggest advantage, which is size and strength.

So he's going to go for really long rounds and try and gas you out.

Yeah, so. So, yeah, but that's what makes it tough, that's what makes it fun, that's what makes it a challenge. You know, getting down to 135. I haven't weighed 300 pounds since I was 21.

How are you going to lose that much weight?

I honestly don't know yet. I mean, if we. To get the deal done for February, it gives me just over three months. It's going to be a hard process because there isn't 30. How much, how much I'm gonna. I'm gonna lose 30 kilo pretty much that. I honestly don't think this. If I were to be like 0% body fat, I could probably lose 30 kilo and be 0% body fat. That's just unrealistic. It's not going to happen.

No.

So I'm gonna have to lose muscle. You know, there's going to be half. You have to pull some muscle back as well as the fat.

Right.

To get down to that weight. So it's going to be a super strict diet, be carnivore only. So it would just be meat, eggs and dairy.

Yeah.

And yeah, it'd be a little bit of calorie restriction, I would imagine, to get down to that weight pretty fast. I mean, 30 kilo in less than 30 weeks. That is a lot kilo a week.

And surely it's against your religion to lose muscle. I was just. It must be. The ego's gonna hurt, isn't it?

I mean, it hurts every day of my life, you know, not being as big as I used to be. So, yeah, it's gonna hurt a lot getting down to 135 kilo. Yeah, it's gonna be really tough.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Does it not scare you getting in the ring with professional dangerous fighters? Because obviously you're a big guy, but you know, they've been training their whole life fighting.

I mean. Yeah, of course it does. I'd be lying if it wasn't scared going in the ring with Thor. I'd be lying.

I mean, he's big at that time.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't scared getting in the ring for that 2v1 fight. You know, I wasn't scared getting with the Mario. So I was.

Yeah.

Because these are all opportunities that you're gonna get knocked out.

Yeah.

Broken nose, broken jaw, or even worse, unalived. You know, these are very, very serious things.

Yeah.

So yeah, the Marius fight was. I was breaking, I was shitting bricks.

I mean, but you. Great performance, wasn't it?

You did the business. It. A lot of things led up to that. That really backed me into a corner. I think that made the Marius fight so interesting. So, so I, we agreed some, some sort of details like a year out like, right, we're gonna fight next April. We're gonna do two minute rounds. We're gonna be these rules that rules. Right, Fine. Right. So I, I off I went training a whole, pretty much 10, 11 months, 2 minute rounds, signed the contract and then I think it was something like four or five weeks before the fight. Mario says, unless we're doing five minute rounds, I'm not fine. And I was like, you bastard.

Yeah.

Like I've trained all this time. And he must have known what he was going to do. And then he pulled this ace out at the last second. Like he's got five minute rounds. And of course for someone my size, like being almost 160 kilo, that's a big ask. Five minute rounds is a huge ask. So we argued and argued and argued and in the end he was like, right, like, okay, I'm not fighting. And it, and it looked as though I was the one pulling out because I wouldn't agree to his terms. So all the media and all the press was like, Eddie Hall's thinking of backing out this fight because they weren't, they won't come to his demands of the fight, you know, the two minute rounds.

Yeah.

And I'm like, you, he proper put me in a corner here because like we agreed two minute rounds and then he upset to five and it made me look, the twat made me look like I was pulling out. So in the end, me and my coach just sat down and we're like, you know what him, give him exactly what he wants and just smash him in the first minute. And that was literally our tactic. So give him two hour rounds, it doesn't matter. Just go out there and bulldoze him. So I think it was actually his own doing as to why that fight went the way it did. If it would have done two minute rounds, I would have paced myself.

Yeah.

I would have, you know, bit more of a fight. But the fact he put so much pressure on me and taking my advantage away, it was just, it put me, that made me go the opposite. It's like, right, one minute, you've got one minute to finish it. Give it your all.

Yeah. So it was in like 30 seconds or something.

28 seconds. Yeah. So his own tactic worked against him, in my opinion. He talked himself over by.

Yeah.

Asking for the five minute round.

Yeah. And I saw that, that the two person fight you had, I mean, you were throwing them around like they were kittens.

Yeah.

Yeah, you were. I mean, it was, how was that?

It was good fun. Yeah, it Was good fun. I mean, that was just something that just came about. Very weirdly. There was a couple of Polish kids on, on Tick Tock.

Fair play to those nutters.

Fair play to him. Yeah. They were giving me so much online and I just sent him a message like, luke, guys, keep. Keep my name out your mouth or I'll sort you out. And the next minute I've got a contract under my nose to fight these two guys in Blackburn, in England. And I was like, looked at the amount, I was like, okay, this is an easy match. It wasn't that much, but enough for me to be like, yeah, you know, payday, a Friday night out. It'll do for in the uk.

It must be a lot of money then.

So, yeah, that was good fun. I mean, they both weighed 165 pounds, which is like 65 kilo, something like that. And they were like, what, 5, 10, 5, 9, something like that. But yeah, it was, it was good fun. It was good fun.

Yeah.

But again, risky.

Yeah.

Like, people think, oh, it was such an easy fight. You get in the ring with two guys and tell me how easy a fight is.

No, you, you made it look easy.

I made it look easy. But yeah, dangerous territory because there's only one's got a grip. You're on the neck and then you're done. Like the other one's smacking you in the face. Yeah, it was a risky, risky fight to take. Like.

Yeah. Is there anyone you wouldn't fight, you know, because they're just too good or.

I, I think, I mean, look, money talks. I think everyone's got a price on absolutely anything in life.

Yeah.

So I would fight. There's no one on this planet that I wouldn't fight for the right amount of money, if that makes sense.

That does make sense.

But, you know, if we're talking, do I want to fight Francis and Ganu?

Well, isn't there some quote you said about that fight?

There is, yeah. But this is the thing. So in the circumstances, I just fought Marius and then obviously my contract was to fight again with ksw. And they were like, right, your next. We're gonna get your next fight as Francis and Ganu. And I'm like, there's like, I would rather get in the ass by the devil than fright Francis and Ganu for a few hundred grand. Like that. Like that's. It was just, it was just. No, no, no, no. As I say that, like the, the risk reward was so off. Yeah. It was like, you want to fight Francis and Ganu? It's got to be the multi millions.

What would you fight him for? Oh hell, you do it for 10 million.

Probably do it for five, right? Yeah. And that's like. And I would still train my dick off.

Yeah.

And try and beat him for five. Like I, I wouldn't go in for to take a beating.

No.

Like I would take 5 million and I would literally try and decimate him.

Same, same strategy.

Same strategy. Just go in and just bulldoze. What else could you do with someone like, someone like Francis? There's no point standing there and exchanging with someone like Francis is so experienced, got so much IQ that it would just outlast you in a few minutes. He'd wear you down.

Yeah.

So someone like him. Yeah, it would just have to be a, have to be a bulldoze job and just hope you get the job done.

Yeah. And would you fight Jake Paul?

Yeah, of course. Jesus.

A good payday, wouldn't it?

Good payday? Yeah, yeah.

Would you fight my boxing?

Yeah, yeah I'd fight him. A boxing. Yeah, I think, I think that'd be a tough, tough little battle actually.

Yeah.

People playing down and people like love to hate on Jake Paul but I actually quite like the kid and some of the, some of the fights have, he's taken. People say only fights old men and whatever else. I mean they might. Minus the Mike Tyson fight. But all the others like legitimately good fighters, good scrappers and he went in and held his own. Even, even Tommy Fury. You know Tommy Fury is a decent level boxer and he lost to Tommy but not by much. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't like a, it wasn't like a beat down.

No.

You know, it was, it was a good scrap. So bit fair preps to Jake Paul. I think if you know he's probably in no doubt improved a lot since then as well.

Yeah. And he disrupted the whole industry, didn't he?

He did whole thing he did and what people don't quite realize is he's making more money than any of the pro boxes probably put together.

That is mad. Do you think that's warranted?

I think he deserves it because of how much like balls he's putting on the line. You know for a man that's literally laid his bollocks out for the whole world to see and win, draw, lose, he's gone in there.

Yeah.

And I think you should get paid for that. And he's, he's created that, that environment for himself. He set those fights up. He's, he's set up those platforms. He's got it on Netflix, he's done that. These other pro boxes haven't got fights, got on Netflix and everything else. So yeah, you've got to give him his props. He more than well deserved what he's got.

Would you call yourself a businessman?

I would say I'm very business minded. I, I guess being brought into the world of endorsements and, and prize money and, you know, even in waves and, and appearances there's been a lot of, a lot of money. And at first it was like taking all this personally, which was stupid. But very quickly I set up a.

Business because of the income tax, because.

Yeah, and, and that sort of manifested very quickly into, you know, loads of other different things. I've invested in several businesses, set up my own business, Beast Farm, which is becoming very successful.

Is that supplements?

Yes, yeah. Supplements, yeah. So I guess, you know, I, at heart I'm not a businessman. I've got very good people around me that look after my, you know, my finances and everything. But I've always been good. I'm not a businessman but I've always been good with money. That makes sense. So when I was 18, I bought my first house, 19 bought my second house. So, and these are things, you know, I remember at the time, people be like, why now? So you mad? And it's just the way I was sort of blueprinted. Yeah. I've always thought 10 years ahead. I've never, never fought for the moment. I'm always thinking, in 10 years time, is that going to benefit me?

Yeah.

And that's why I've always done business and you know, even now I don't pull money out the business. It's like, right, I'm going to invest that into, into gold, into silver, into that business, whatever. It's always been 10 years time because no one who buys gold isn't, is looking for a quick buck, are they? You know, you buy gold and silver and whatever and you're thinking, right, 30 years time, it's going to be worth three times as much. And that's, that's, that's how I'm, I'm business minded in that respect because not.

Everyone is blessed like that because I think a lot of people who are successful, say in sport or something, they're terrible with money, aren't they?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I guess you must have seen some people squander a load of money.

Oh, I mean, we all have, haven't we? We've seen many a footballer come and go.

Yeah. Boxer. Yeah.

Jesus. Yeah. You know they've come and bought the Lamborghini. They've been in the, in the high res, rented out and there's, you know, there's been cases of some of them are now working, you know like stacking shelves or working in a construction yard or, you know, it happens, doesn't it? And again I think that it's very, it's very sad because they've been given an opportunity, a lifetime, even if it's a short window, even if a footballer does a year and earns, just for argument's sake, earns ends a million, you know, to go away and just spunk that up the wall on cars and whatever else is so, so sad. That million could be invested into property, into jewelry, into whatever that could set you up for life. But yeah, it's, it's, I think it's, it's the environment you brought in. Parents are a big one as well. If your parents aren't, aren't looking to the future, you know, if they're like live in the moment, people, as people love to say, yeah, that can rub off on you. You know they get, someone wins ten grand, they go and buy a ten grand car. Yeah, if I win ten grand I'm putting on, putting that in the bank or investing it in gold and silver. Yeah, you know it's, it's, it's little things like that I think, I think environment's a big one. Friends, family.

Yeah.

People around you.

It must help that there is no way on this earth you can fit in a Lamborghini. I mean maybe the Urus, maybe just I would say, I mean the Gallardos and the Hurricanes are tiny, aren't they?

Yeah.

You ever tried to get in one?

I mean, look, at one point I was like, I really wanted a Ferrari when I was younger, like before I was an adult. Really, really wanted a Ferrari. But I'm not, I'm not a one for show off things. But then I've got two tanks and so I can't, I can't talk like that. But I love my toys. But yeah, if, if they did a Lamborghini in my size, I probably, I still wouldn't have one.

No. Yeah, no, I mean I can't get in a Hurricane. So how the are you going to get in one?

No, exactly. I have tried.

Have you?

Yeah, I couldn't even get a, the steering wheel. No, it be, it'd be atrocious. That would.

And final question. First off, thanks again for letting us here in your gym. What's your biggest mistake or Regret.

You know what? I've. I've come to a point in my life where I don't have any.

But we all have one.

I actually can't think of any.

None.

No, I can't. I think everything happens for a reason. And I think, you know, like big things in life that have gone wrong for me. I've always had really good long term results and long term sort of turnarounds.

Right.

And I think that's why I don't have any regrets. You know, I think, I think one of the, one of the, especially this stage of my life, like losing the fight, the boxing fight to Thor, that was huge. That was such a, a hard thing to take for me. But then I, I actually evaluate, Right. So I think to myself, right, what would have happened if I had a one? Okay. So if I had a one, I probably would have took another fight straight after that and then another one and then another one and I wouldn't have been able to sort of sit back, relax, work with a hormone doctor and have two more kids. So I see it as, you know, as horrible as it was like losing, losing to anyone, losing to anything is tough. Yeah. Loads that scale. As horrible as it was, even something like that, you know, it's had a massive positive turnaround and outcome in my life and I'm actually in some ways thankful that that happened.

Yeah.

Because if it had gone the other way, I wouldn't have had. I don't think I'd ever had two more kids. No. So, you know, everything happens for a reason. So I think I'm at the stage of my life where I don't have any, any regrets or, you know, what ifs. It's like. Yeah, it is what it is.

Yeah.

You know, if I could go back in time and punch in the right lottery numbers, I would, don't get me wrong. But yeah, but yeah, there's no, no regrets.

Are you friends with Thor? No, we're not friends, no.

No. He actually, he actually put a, Somebody sent me a link the other day. So apparently he said we can be friends if I take the video down off my YouTube channel. That proves the truth.

So you could be friends under his conditions.

Just like, what a dick. So, yeah. And it's also, it's hilarious. So some. So. And this is, this is genuine thing. So Thor has genuinely said he is not going back to World's Strongest man as long as Colin Bryce and Eddie hall are involved. So he's not never going back to World's Strongest Man. And. And yet we can only be friends if I take down the video on my YouTube channel that. That he says is. But I think it's just basically a video that. That relays the truth. He wants the truth taken down so he can be right and I can be wrong. So that's the only way we can be friends. So Thor, just to let you know, that video is staying up for the rest of your life until you say Eddie hall, one world's strongest man to seven 2017. And I'm a little. And then I'll take it down. Love you, mate.

What are you. I'm working on right now that you want to share?

I mean, look, other than Beast Farm.

I'm so won't tell us what Beef Farm is.

Farm is a supplement company. Yeah, the standard stuff. But I've got a few quick protein creatines. We've got my own formula, like sleep formulas. Yeah, that product called Big D, which is like a daily thing that you take to build you. We should get on it. Daily thing that you take that. Everything. Everything. Everything your muscle needs to get bigger.

Okay.

Yeah, we're just building some quick. Got a big, Big Love as well, which is something I formulated obviously because I had trouble getting my sperm count back up. So I actually formulated my own formulation to. To get it all back up.

Oh, wow. So that's like a supplement.

Yeah, yeah. So that's like a fertility booster, enhancer, libido enhancer as well. It just. Everything.

Yeah. And that's called Big Love.

Big Love. Yeah, yeah. So stuff like that. I'm working on a TV show called Battle of the Beasts that's just been done, filmed, edited. It's in the product in the edit room now. And then hopefully that's going to land on a big streaming platform.

And what's that about? Battle of the Base.

So it's my own sort of show where I. I want. Originally wanted to do Strongman, but then I realized Strongman's been done so many times, I need to change the book a little bit. So I ended up doing half Strongman, half entertainment. So I've done three Strongman events. We've got the. The Deadlift, the Hercules hold and Hell. What else was there? Like a loading event. So we're testing the body and strength. Endurance.

Yeah.

And pain. And then the other three events were. One was Sumo. Sumo wrestling. So I was like, we've had it before in Strongman, but yeah. Why. Why haven't we got this, you know, such an al. Thing, isn't it? Seen two blee Go at each other. One of the events was a belly flop competition. So you'd have to perform, dance to music and then do a belly flop. And you're marked down on creativity, your sound.

Oh, and.

And the pain. So you were judged with, like, judges with scorecards.

Nice.

And then an eating competition as one of the events.

Wow. There was that. That woman. She's insane.

Leah Shakibo. Yeah. Yeah. She's incredible.

Is she the real deal when it comes to 100?

Yeah. She's unreal. Yeah. She could. All three of us could, like, have a plate of meat. She'd have the same plate of meat, give us five minutes, she'd devour it, and we'd still be going, wow, she's incredible. Yeah, different. Different breed.

Wow. What's your main social media that you put your. Your content out on?

YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, at. Handle @Eddie W. Same for everything.

I love watching your Facebook. I follow you. Well, obviously, I follow you on them all, but I. I watch your Facebook videos. I really like them.

Thank you.

And, Eddie, once again, thanks a lot.

Thank you.

Cheers.

Cheers, Sam.