"I Will Get Assassinated" Katie Hopkins on Getting Banned & Death Threats

I was cancelled, banned, fired to the point that the only way out would be to swing.

Why don't you keep quiet, then?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And that's why, you know, that's a really great, great question to always ask.

I mean, you'd be richer if you wouldn't.

£1.4 million wouldn't have gone off, too.

And if you'd have invested that well in the Magnificent Seven stock market, you'd be a billionaire by now, wouldn't you?

So, yeah, I mean, that's always the. My own antidote to myself. Anytime that I. I'm sharing something, obviously, like. Like being arrested or not going in to be interviewed under caution by Devon and Cornwall police. The. My sort of antidote to myself is. Yeah. So you could have shut up. So you could have shut up. And that's always true. Everyone is right. Or if they think, why don't you just shut up, you old hag? Aren't you dead yet?

You know I wouldn't say that.

No, no, but people will say that, obviously. But.

But I wouldn't. But do you not ever think before, oh, this could get me in trouble. Oh, maybe I can do something else.

Back in the day, I used to think, oh, this isn't going to go well for me. And sometimes press launch, you know, throw the grenade. And this was particularly true when I was employed, which is a useful thing for many people to be employed. So when I had an LBC job, you know, that's pretty hardcore in terms of a discipline, a regimen ofcom regulated bosses, layers of structure, management hierarchy, people to answer to daily. I mean, you don't even want to. No one would want to know what it's like to actually try and work inside those organs. It's brutal. So you don't piss those employers off because they'll do you every day. But since becoming more of a working for myself person, I now sort of crossed the Rubicon, which I think happened when I survived my massive surgery for my brain that has made me a spaz, is I've crossed the Rubicon into this new territory where it doesn't matter now. It doesn't matter what they do.

Okay, let me ask you one thing on that.

Yeah.

Look what happened to Charlie Kirk.

Yes.

So maybe.

Oh, for sure. No, that's always.

Because did that not make you worry slightly? That could be you.

Oh, that's always been. I mean, that's been since forever Land for the last. Certainly for the last 25.

When did the jihadi threat happen for you? Yeah, when was that?

That was so back in the old house before I lost it. So must have been at the height of my powers. In terms of LBC mail online, I would say 10 years ago, I want to say that was very, very real. Cause that was practiced with this knife. The men coming into my house to set up alarms around my house, patrol units around my house, that was a imminent threat to life. But I've always felt that if I was going to go down, taken out by someone would be on the street. And I've always, I always feel like that will happen still.

I still would imagine you think you're gonna get.

I would imagine you just imagine you're. I don't imagine being old. I didn't imagine living this long. But you have to accept that at any point, if someone chose to, they can remove you permanently. But I definitely don't have fear about that. You see how I walk around. I don't have any security. I've never had security. So I don't have any fear.

Why stroke. How do you not have any fear?

None. Because as her age 28, a seizure from my epilepsy, I used to be a massive epileptic seizure would kill me within two years, I was told. So 28, 31, I got my big surgery and lived. And I'm functioning at some capacity. So I'm well overdue my time. I saw that the edge, the periphery of the end, somewhere in that middle dark patch in my life. And it was very, very, very calm, you know, to the point lovely Mark was getting me to record messages for the children. It wasn't looking lightly at survival. It was very calm. And I know the end is super calm. Some of my best days have definitely been on morphine with a catheter. So I will just add that for anyone, if you've got end of life or your terminal, do not be afraid of it because catheter morphine for happy days. I'd do that every week if I could. If there was an all inclusive that involved catheters and morphine, I'd sign up tomorrow. And also because I just feel really, really alive, like more so now than ever because I have lived through, endured, been properly annihilated and now I'm able to walk the streets b around people happy to see you. And I've got this joy thing. I just don't even know. I don't even know how I got to be alive to be doing this bit. I never thought this, I would get this bit. So I'm so, I'm so excited and because I've seen the win, I know most people feel like this is the worst time ever, but I've seen the win coming for five years. This is one of the best times ever. Because it's coming.

What's coming?

Oh, just good times. Good times are this, this. You have to have a winter before the spring. You have to be forced to the point where there is an uprising, there is a complete change, there is a 180 in direction, it has to come. And I know we'll lose people, we'll lose people to suicide, we'll lose people to Eastern Europe, we'll lose a load.

Of people to Dubai.

Yeah, we'll lose people to America. But there is this core of Britain that is great. It is butchers with machetes and I am here for it. And so I just feel like in a non preachy Jesus way, I just feel joy to be still here and I love it. And I know lovely people, you for all I say about you and what everyone else says about you being a wanker, you're bloody genius.

Oh, thank you.

You are. And that's true of so many people. And I love it. Human, humans are awesome. And that's why when people talk about AI tech, the algorithm, nothing will ever beat British people having a laugh together. You can't beat it. No other country has our sense of humor or Britishness. And we're this teeny, teeny pissy island. You know, anytime you're feeling a little morose, just look at the world map. Look at us, we're this little gnats bite on the arse of nothing. And yet British people are magnificent.

Hmm. Amen. I want to let that land before I ruin the movie.

Before you destroy it with something childish and petty.

Well, actually, I was going to talk about your talk.

That is quite childish.

Well, no, what I want to talk about is do you feel like you're cancelled? Because I know intimately because of what we experience with one of the venues. I know that you can't get in many venues now. I'm sure there's loads of media you just, you can't get anywhere near. Do you feel like we have free speech and do you feel like you're cancelled or because you've got a few of your own channels? Them you because, you know you've still got a really big following. Where do you sit on that?

Yeah. So doing these standup tours, I've learned something really important, which I've always believed. So I used to say on Twitter or whatever followers like my path so people would say, why don't you follow anyone, you asshole, you, you narcissistic, bigoted cow. You don't follow anyone because you don't listen. Opposite true. Watch what your followers are saying. Watch what? Listen very carefully and quietly. The audience will tell you will inform everything. Which is why LBC worked so brilliantly. Because I could have people call me from their kitchens on a Sunday and they would whisper to me on the radio like they were sharing secrets. But it was being informed at an almost one to one level about where the country's at. And it's true with standup or whatever this is I do in theaters, that audience inform everything. You walk in that room and it is amazing you can people just remember what it feels like to belong and the fact that these theatres that will have me and have held firm. This is now. So for my next tour, free range, these theaters on this list are the only theaters in the UK that will have me, that are loyal, have held firm and even a number of these I've had to fold, fight for like a freaking fighting to mate to get them to hold.

So there's 25 venues or 24 because there's a TBC. So there's 24, 25 venues on here. So you're saying they're pretty much the only 25 in the UK that will have you?

Yes, and I, I challenge. That's a direct challenge, right? To a theater or anyone, not someone who knows a theater. We don't need. Have you tried the blah blah blah? Believe me, yeah, we've tried. If you're a theater manager and you want to contradict me, I'm all ears. Landlordatiesarms.com these are the only theaters in the whole of the five nations that will allow me to perform and will withstand minimal pressure from people who had no intention of coming. Anyway, I want to talk about this.

Because I'm not sure because on the one hand you obviously were cancelled from your job and there are probably social media platforms that you can't put content about you on. And we absolutely blew up together, you and I with a couple of clips on the ones you talking about how many genders there were tens of millions of views and I lost my TikTok account over it and by the way, I don't give a fuck. I don't, I don't. Yeah, I lost my tick.

Sorry.

No, we had 400,000 followers. We had tens of millions of views on just on that clip and but as far as I'm concerned, I don't fucking care because there's Facebook, there's Instagram, there's Rumble, there's X, there's all of it. So you could argue a channel will shut you down, but if you refuse to be shut down, like for example, Andrew Tate's fights on Rumble. And they're. They're doing the live stream on. On Rumble. And I'm sure that'll blow Rumble up. And I'm sure Andrew's got a deal. And even though Andrew can't get on Facebook and Instagram, he's gone Rumble. And he'll just pull all the viewers to Rumble. So maybe if you refuse to be cancelled, you can't be cancelled.

Yeah, I think there is that about. And I, and I take that across to everybody's life. Like, if you just agree that you will keep getting back up in your own life. I will keep getting back up if you make that promise to yourself. You don't have to do this weird pretend. No, it's okay. I got it. I'm still going. Look at me. Doing my content, doing my Instagram protect. And that because the collapse happens, we see it all the time, people in tears. I can't do it anymore. You have to take time lying on the floor, winded to go, Jesus, God, this is hard. I had it in the making of this tour with one particular venue. I know I was properly sick because my heart is in this so much and to be let down, I. It made me unwell. You have to commit and be ill for it or sacrifice stuff, but as long as you agree to get back up. And that's why I think I still go now. And it's why, in a way, your TikTok thing being canceled, it doesn't matter. Because the way the algorithm is now, it's not about followers and other people will take your clips and put them on TikTok and they'll do the numbers. So you're still going to get the eyeballs anyway. But it's about continually getting back up, Sam.