Katie Hopkins Reveals The Truth on Being Arrested

A off. I was hauled in for calling myself a spaz. That's not enough for you? You need me nailed on a cross off. Okay. B, I was sent a letter in early. Boy, I'm gonna say May, April, May at the start of my last tour is to frame the reference on it. And it said reason to believe speech that is against. I want to say section 230, but I don't know the correct one. Something to do with offensive speech on my Katie's Arms, which is my pub night that I run every Friday. Glass of wine, put the worlds to right. Lots of people join in, have a laugh at me. And so I had two choices on the letter. One which I can send to you. Actually that'd be helpful. One is to be arrested and two is to come in interview under caution. And I've been through this before in the past as you can imagine, the choices are come in and talk to us and being recorded as a serious matter. That, that will be the file they put together to send to the CPS to see if they can charge you or we'll come and arrest you. So I pushed back because I was trying to say I'm not, I'm not going to do it. But equally I had a tour and knowing how police work, especially with me, that would be the start of a tour, a thousand seater audience and I'd be arrested on stage. That it wouldn't be done politely or discreetly or helpfully to me. So I worked with Free Speech Union. We agreed I would come in at the end of the tour. So I knew that I would be able to, I wouldn't fail any of my audience, which I refused to do. And I tried to. I rewrote the statement. The Free Speech Union helped me draft a correct statement. I drafted what I wanted to say, which was a couple of sentences and much more punchy. And it was agreed that if I was going to have Free Speech help me, which, which I'm very grateful to Toby and the team, that we would have a compromise. We got it down to one page and I went in there of my own free will. At an agreed time, I was taken to a room by two bints from Devon and Cornwall Police and Dorset. So the whole of the south of England cid, which I said the other day was Chief Inspectors Division. It's not, it's Criminal Investigation Division. Whatever they said, I just see, that's all I see is the clown car into a room and then they begin the recording and then you have to. I was interviewed for an hour and a half in criminal proceedings for court.

What did they ask you?

Well, because I called myself a spaz. Because so, so what did that.

But what was the question? Accusation.

The accusation is that I caused offense.

Perceived offense to others by self depreciating.

By calling myself a spaz. On my Katie's Arms, which is a live Instagram feed that you would have to. I'm not standing like outside here on the street corner with a, with a megaphone going, I'm a spaz. Maybe you're a spouse. Right. Which is effectively the stuff I was doing. I was being Joey Deacon. This won't be a reference, you know, but no, I, I am actually again though. Yeah.

Yeah.

I have a disabled card. Yeah. And on the train this morning. So I buy a ticket with a disabled card because you get a really good discount.

Right.

And then when they come down to do they say, tickets, all tickets, passes please. I try and act as spaz as I can to challenge them. To challenge them to see if they'll ask for my disabled card. So when they come up and go, tickets, passes, I go with my phone and then to challenge like, go on, ask me for my disabled card. And typically they don't. One has gotta do this to get it. So it's my gag with myself, you know, I'm missing half my head. I am a spaz. I tell people, be more weird, take up more space, be as odd as you can be because so many more people will find a place to fit in under your wings if you're weird. Regardless. So an hour and a half in Devon and Cornwall, police in a cell thing being recorded. And then she had questions after questions. Do you realize how offensive the word spaz is? Do you realize by calling yourself a spaz you're causing offense to other people? You had a glass of wine in your hand. Do you drink often? Would you consider yourself a drunk? Are you a drunk? And a spurs. At which point I just lost it. There was loads of times in that. And what I'm trying to get, and I promise you if I get it, I will give it to you before I release it, whether you want to use it or not. And you can have first refusal, but we are trying to get the recording of me in that interview under caution because with a good edit on that, I mean there is a whole stand up routine in that. I mean some of the questions. Is it acceptable to take the piss out of yourself? You know, just for an hour and a half. Truly unbelievable. And then at the end she stopped the recording and then warned me not to talk about any of this because it might cause me more problems than I already had.

So do you think they're going to come for you again?

So no. So then, because the process is the punishment, so you send the early letter in May, then we agree, okay, Katie will come in in August, I go in in August and then August, September, October, November. We just heard. I don't know, was it a week ago? So then, end of November. Oh, there's no charges. So you have to wait three months to see if the cps, the Crown Prosecution Service will decide, is it chargeable?

I mean, how much money must that have cost? Must have cost tens of thousands of pounds.

Tens and tens of thousands of pounds. It was done ahead of the United Kingdom rally in the UK because they knew I would be a speaker. I think it's always a warning shot across your bow to, say, wind your neck in trying to intimidate you out of being the speaker, because maybe you'll be arrested on the day. And then what you have to remember for people that think, well, it's Katie, she's used to it. It's Katie, she's used to it. You know, in my private life, I have a family and children and things. So you are then prepared when the door knocks, you're prepared. So I immediately remove myself. The children know not to answer the door. If they do answer the door, I'm not there you are. The knock on the door becomes something. It's not a nothing. I'm not afraid of being arrested, but it's not a nothing when it's in your home. So it has impacts for sure. But I'm out using this word spaz as much as I can because I feel like it's a reclaiming thing. Right. We have to reclaim language, the right to self deprecate. I would never stand in the street and go spaz someone unless it was a mate.

So you was this targeted? You got targeted?

Yeah, 100%. I think before Unite the Kingdom rally, there would have been some sort of missive going out, you know, get. Get their heads down. Like in military terms, you fire shots where you vaguely think the enemy is to get their heads down in order that you can move forwards. Right. So that would be what happened there. Just a scatter gun, get the heads down, hope she pulls out, you know, take away the noise from Unite the Kingdom. That would be my interpretation.

Wow. And we've just had Lucy Connolly on the show.

Oh, bless her.

And she got four years. Like people don't know this. Cause she wasn't in for four years. She got four years for a tweet and she said that the person who was being tried before her was convicted of gbh had a balaclava, used a crowbar and got two years. And she got four years for a tweet. And she believed it came from Keir Starmer. It was a directive. What do you think about that? Cause sometimes I think, okay, well, maybe they needed to control the riots and make a few examples. I'd love to be nice, even think we're all treated fairly, but we're obviously not. Could. Could that there have been a revolution then? And then part of me thinks it's completely unfair and ridiculous and it's just a surveillance state. What do you think?

Yeah, I think Lucy Connelly is. Is absolutely correct. I think at that time they saw that those riots or those. The flare up could have become a nationwide riot. I absolutely think that moment was there. You know, everybody was ready. It could have absolutely become nationwide. An uprising against the government and illegals attacking our kids. So they had to take an immediate and draconian action. They let out rapists and pedophiles and the rest of it to make space. There's no way you would have got those individuals into court at that rate if it wasn't a government directive. Because as you all know, the waitlist for court system is two years plus. And then for them to be sentencing individuals at the rate that they sentenced them at the. The seriousness of the sentencing was a message out to everyone else. The same idea as I was just explaining. Get your heads down, you know, fire across them, fire across them. Take out, you know, some of the major players and the others will put their heads down because they don't want it happening to them. So, absolutely, I think that's what Lucy got. And I think she's done very well to come out of it sane and speaking up and I think it's right. That that happened is absolute insanity that that's happened. The thing that gives me secret comfort is that Keir Starmer, of course, comes from the legal profession. You know, he was chief prosecutor when grooming gangs were widely ignored. The fact that the legal hierarchy no longer exists, barristers don't exist anymore because of AI. Legal is gone. Judges even are gone. So there is a time coming where it isn't humans controlled by a government that's going to be dispensing law. So there is a future moment of hope. But I absolutely think that came directly from Keir Starmer and some of us will just have to take the punishment. Lucy took it, the other guys took it. The guy that didn't make it out of prison, that killed himself in there, he didn't. He takes the punishment, but didn't get to survive it. I'll take it. You know, that's just, that's just going to be the price you pay for being visible at the pointy end of things.

Wow. Well, I want to come back later to if that's worth it. But also there's the Joey Barton stuff going on, isn't there? Where he's, did he's, did he get a suspended sentence? Did that happen? How did it work?

Yeah, so Joey Barton called a presenter of radio to allegedly called him a bite nonce, which I think is just, I mean, if he just called him a pedo, it might have been all right, I don't know. And then he said that another black sports commentator, female, was only there because she was fulfilling diversity criteria. And a jury found him guilty of whatever serious harm. And so he was given a six month sentence, suspended. So a six month prison sentence that is currently suspended to basically keep his head down so he doesn't do anything else. Sam.