EP069: New Patient Paradigm with Dr. Todd Watts

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Hi everyone, it's Satchin. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Today I've got a really, really special interview that I'm doing. It's gonna blow your socks off. I'm excited for a couple reasons. One, because our speaker, Dr. Todd Watts, is gonna really take your understanding of health to a whole new level. And what he's also going to do is give you a perspective that you may not have had before on helping either your patients or yourself deal with chronic health challenges. A group of my practitioners that I know recently went to their event and they were all coming back raving and ranting about how amazing the event was and how groundbreaking the information was and how well documented and was as well. So with that all being said, I'd Love to welcome Dr. Todd Watts. Todd, thanks for joining me today.

Thank you for having me on. Really appreciate it. I look forward to coming up to Toronto.

I'm super excited, man. I know it's going to be a very busy, jam packed weekend, but it's three days out of the year where a lot of people will report time stood still. So it goes by pretty quickly. But when you're in it and you're present, it really, truly is one of my favorite events of the year. Speaking of events, I know you guys had a recent event and my head clinician in Mississauga, Dr. Brar, attended and he was again, just absolutely blown away by the content and information. So I'm excited to learn a little bit more about you personally and I want to know what you guys are up to at Cellcor, because it's really changing a lot of lives in our practice. And I want more practitioners to learn about your amazing products and protocols because this is something that's going to really revolutionize how practitioners, how quickly and how effectively practitioners can produce results. So let's talk about a little bit about you first. What got you to where you are right now?

Well, I think like a lot of people, our own journey has gotten us to where we are. And for me, it's the same. When I was 28, I got Epstein Barr virus, which I think was the beginning of my health journey. And then as I went through that was 28 years old, as I went through my 30s, towards the end of my 30s, I had a lot of stress in my life. I think a lot of people. In 2008, 2009, the markets hit them and I got to choose all over what I was going to do with my life at the age of 40 and at that time, back to school to chiropractor to get my doctorate. And I started. And through that process of going through it, I learned a lot of what I was struggling with. A variety of different health problems, from headaches to neurological function, cognitive function issues to chronic pain, severe fatigue. And within that process of going through it, I learned about Lyme disease and Babesia, a lot of the co infections that I had. And then also just in this health journey in the functional medicine world, looking at what else can cause illness and issues. And that's where I learned about heavy metal toxicity, glyphosates and radiation toxicity, a variety of other things in my own health journey of like, okay, I made improvements as I treated Epstein Barr, I made improvements as I treated Lyme, Babesia, but I'm still not there yet. And I just kept pushing away and punching away at it. And then parasites became a big part of that. And so I cleared parasites and these other toxins. Then I got my energy back. And so through my 40s, I had a lot of severe fatigue. And I talk about fatigue in three ways, meaning that I had a chronic fatigue, I had muscle fatigue, and I had brain fatigue. And so each of those came back at different times. And now as I'm 51, hitting 52 this year, I feel amazing. And my health is back to where it is. And I've coached. I've coached people along the way as well over the last seven years to get their journey. And so in this process of bringing to the market mimosa pudica seeds to help my own journey, it's helped many thousands and thousands of people all over the world. And that's what started Cellcore Biosciences. Two and a half years ago, I launched the company with one product. And now today, we have 15 products and their patients along a process of how to get better.

I love it. So, you know, in a market that's literally flooded with so many different supplement companies that are out there, what are a few things that make cellcore biosciences different.

Well, what we're looking at is traditionally we just give vitamins to support all these pathways. That's what functional medicine does. And so we're looking at it from a completely different way, is how do we open up drainage, how do we create energy, mitochondrial energy, and processes for the body? And how do we clear out the infections and the toxins from the body at the same time, support the organ function? And by doing this and that focus of going after the causation, not just supporting tons of different things, then we have so much more success. And so our protocol and processes is designed that way of whatever somebody is diagnosed with. This is the process you go through, because these are the things that need to be fixed, and we need to fix things all the way down to the mitochondrial level. And we teach a lot about that. And that's what we talk about in our conference, Cell danger Response. We talk about mitochondrial function and the whole process of creating energy and where these toxins come into play. And. And really, I don't think. I think we think we're deficient on things when really it's an inhibition problem, meaning that something's blocking the processes in the body from working properly. And as we dive into all these things, we are learning, like, what's glyphosate doing to the mitochondria? You know, how is it affecting the body's ability to make energy and breaking things down? Where does mercury and lead and arsenic take place? And how does that affect the cell and the mitochondria? And what. Why are we pushing everything towards lactic acid instead of towards energy? And so this is what we do deep. We do deep dives on and these conferences to help people understand why they're using their supplementation and what they're fixing instead of just, oh, hey, this is a protocol I learned. Like, you just need to take a bunch of vitamin D or a bunch of vitamin A or here's, you know, here's all this magnesium. It's like, okay, what are we trying to accomplish here with these nutrients and so forth? Part of what makes our products different is the energy of them. And so we have bioactive carbon molecules that go into most every one of our products. And some of them are basically bioactive carbons themselves that have the ability to bind to toxins or remove toxins, but also have the ability to repair the tissue and feed the good microbiome. So when you're trying to heal leaky gut, it's not about giving a glutamine or some of these herbs, we want to pull the toxin or the infection that's causing the problem out, and we want to repair that tissue and then feed the good microbiome. So that's what we look at with our three different binders, is they don't just bind. You can take them with food. They're amazing because you can take them anytime. And then they do all three of those roles. They're highly energized particles with what we call poly dispersed polyanions. So you can charge the cells and get things in and out. So we want to charge those cells up and then we want to also bind in, go in and bind on all these free radicals that are being caused by disease and by toxicity. And by doing so, all of a sudden, your body starts to work, your immune system starts to work, and then your energy comes up. And the other thing we look at is how do we turn on these enzymes? So when you're trying to, it's like, hey, let's give them glutathione. Well, why don't we just go in and recycle glutathione? What about all the other enzymes that are required in that whole process? Anyways, why don't we turn those enzymes off that were turned off by mold? Because mold turns off the NRF2 pathway, which then shuts those enzymes down to take that free radical that's made in the electron transport chain and convert it to water. So we go through the science of what we're trying to accomplish. So you understand why you're using what you're using?

Yeah, And I think once that clicks for both practitioners and patients, they can understand timelines better, they can understand responses better. It might help patients also understand why what they're doing in the past didn't work. Right. And I think that drainage is something that is very overlooked. I think the general kind of consensus is, in functional medicine is, let's give you something. But really what I'm finding is the shifting paradigm is let's figure out what we need to remove and take away what's interfering. And this is kind of a, you know, at a molecular level, this is almost the chiropractic philosophy, right? Let's remove the interference first and then allow the body to do what it does best. And of course, we believe this in lifestyle and so many other factors. But it also starts at a cellular level. Just like you got to make room for, you know, if you want to. If your closet is full, you've got to get rid of the Stuff you're not using anymore, Right. To make room for new stuff. This is a principal energy principle in feng shui as well. You know, when. So we see this on macroscopic levels and you're applying it at a microscopic level. I love it.

And I love that comment about we said a drainage because people start to kill things off. Let's just go and kill all these infections off. It's like, wait a second, they have bad reactions because their drainage pathways aren't open. They can't detox.

So.

So then they're trying to detox or kill off things, but then they can't get it out, so they're causing more toxicity. And then the other thing you'll look at is what is the role of the mitochondria? So how do the organs, the drainage organs work if they don't have the energy to work? The liver has probably up to 502,000 mitochondria per cell. The brain has up to 10,000 mitochondria per cell. Parts of the brain have over 2 million mitochondria per cell. So if they have that high, why do they have so many mitochondria? The reason why they have it is because they need the energy to be able to do what it has to do. It's not just about energy. We think about the mitochondria creates this really low deuterium, water. It also creates the body's ability to signal the immune system to work. That's why at times we don't feel well. When we get the flu, we get really tired because our ATP goes out of the cell to signal the immune system to work instead of being utilized for energy. So there's this amazing response. After Jay talked Dr. Navio's work on cell danger response in detail and how to apply it. And so it's. It makes a lot of sense. Once you get it, you're like, oh, wow, that makes tremendous sense.

So how is. How has this been overlooked all this time? You have any theories on that?

I think the approach in functional medicine is what medical. The medical system has done, which is, well, here's a problem. Let's just give you a nutrient to try and help that instead of looking at what's creating the problem in the first place. And in my journey and with the journey with a lot of my patients, our patients teach us so many things, right? I mean, they, oh, my gosh, this person is really difficult. I can't, you know, how do we break through this? The level. And this is where you learn and learn. So through this process of learning, with working with so many people in our clinic, as well as what you guys have done up there, you realize it's not just about just over giving them tons of nutrients. It's really about balancing their immune system and getting their bodies to work properly. And so when we look at the balance between infections and energy and immune function, if we have low immune function here and high infection, we can knock the infection down all we want, but it's going to come right back up. And this happened to me for about five years. I just kept cycling. And so once I brought immune function up and energy up, the infection stayed down and I was able to make more and more progress. And a big part of that was what was causing the. You have to look at your environment, what's causing toxicity and a low immune function. For me, that was parasitic infections and environmental toxicity and radiation.

Wow. So what are some of the early symptoms somebody might experience? Certainly somebody with chronic disease who finally makes their way into a functional medicine or holistic practitioner. I mean, they're pretty far along in their journey. And so we know certainly there's probably a lot of these aspects that are overlooked with regards to their health. But what are some of the early symptoms, maybe even early warning signs that somebody has radiation toxicity or mold toxicity before they go into a full blown health challenge?

We did look at energy. Are they starting to slow down a little bit? Do they feel a little bit more tired? It's not aging people. You can have good energy at the age of 90. It's understanding your brain function. When it starts to go off, start having some word loss or just can't remember things as well as you used to remember. I see people just with skin, oh, I got a skin rash. And that skin rash is creating, creating problems. And it's like, why would I have a skin rash? Why am I breaking out with eczema? There's the gut issues. So looking at, okay, what's creating the gut issues? There's a whole variety of things that could create gut issues.

So.

Headaches, detoxification problems, even simple detoxification problems where you don't detox well, could be a sign of mold, because mold shuts down those pathways in the liver and in the body and cells.

So interesting, man, it's so fascinating. So somebody might experience symptoms like skin related issues, neurological type of symptoms. And I would say that that's important for us to be in tune with, to pay attention to what our body is using as a tool to signal to us what's going On, I mean, if you're. If your body's intelligent. Right. I think we all believe that. Everyone watching this should certainly believe that. And if it puts a problem or a symptom on your skin, then there's no ignoring it. So it's your body's way of telling you early on that, hey, something is not right. Some system in your body is collapsing, whether it's the microbiome or the detoxification pathway. And, you know, that should be a fair kind of warning sign. Right. A lot of these symptoms are things that we associate with age because these toxins have a cumulative effect. So certainly as we age, we're going to have more of them. So the correlation is easy to make because a lot of our counterparts or colleagues or peers have these challenges as well. So if everyone has a problem, it seems that it's normal, even though it's not. It's common, but not normal. So I love what you said about being 90 and having, you know, abundant energy. I know that that's something that a lot of people want. And, you know, as energy starts dipping in the 40s, certainly we start using ages as an excuse. You know, you mentioned you're in your 50s, which you look fantastic, by the way. So I certainly want to know the formula, maybe how you kept all the hair and some genetics.

Genetics are part of that.

Okay, yeah, I'm teasing, man. I'm teasing. But certainly I know that one thing that I've paid attention to is the number of grades I have, and they've increased slightly. And, you know, I know stress plays a role in that. Certain, you know, you talked about glutathione and the NRF2 pathway that can play a role in that. So there's outward signs that we can have that we're either under stress or there's something that's stressing our system. And it's important to kind of look for these things. You know, when I took the products, I took the mimosa, and when I took that, you know, we share this in our. In our presentations and our lectures that we give. You know, I had a large worm come out of me, and it was after a trip to Costa Rica that we went to. And I had no symptoms. So, you know, I had no symptoms. It actually didn't even show up on my GI test. But I did the protocol anyways because my son tested positive. And so as a result of taking the products, if I was only relying on the testing, I would have missed it. So a lot of times we have to use Our clinical, you know, taking a good history, I knew I went somewhere, I knew a family member had something going on. So it was pretty safe to say that the test may have missed it. So relying on intuition as well and you know, playing, playing it smart. The other thing I love about your guys products and the way you guys set up your protocols is they're very gentle. And that's something that I'd love for you to talk about because a lot of people get afraid of starting a new protocol or starting something new because they're afraid of the Herxmeier response, the die off effect that they're going to get. But really tell us more about what that actually is because I think for a lot of practitioners it's a cop out for not creating proper drainage for the patient first. What do you think?

Oh, I completely agree. We all go through this process. I mean, I remember giving somebody a product to help with Candida and I've been to a ton of seminars with this company. They do a great job of teaching about thyroid and blood work. I used their product and I didn't think about drainage and the gal wasn't pooping and I didn't realize she wasn't going to the bathroom very well. So she got boils all over her body and had to go to the er. So early in my career I learned importance of drainage. And so we created and even on our website we showed the drainage funnel. You have to get the bowels moving and that's why we have the bowel mover. And then you have to be sure the bile flow is moving and the liver and then the kidneys are draining and then it goes up from there, the lymphatics and then the organs and tissues and then up to the cells. So if we want to really clean the cells out, we really want to get the body to not adversely react. We need to be sure the drainage pathways are working. And so that's the protocol. The first part is addressing energy and drainage. So those systems are working to where we start to clear the gut and clear other things that we can be able to not have those reactions. And another wonderful thing is that with mimosa poitica seed, it's an individual ingredient that is really mild for most people. And then the para 2, which is antimicrobial and antiparasitic is an ayurvedic formula that balances between the three doses. So a number of doctors that has like, wow, I can't believe my patients can take this. They're so sensitive to all other things, but they can easily take this product. And that's because, ironically, if you look at the body and the body types, all three body types can take it well and handle it. And so that's why I created that product with the help of the Minister of Ayush in India, and then with how I put things together. He's used that formula in India for 30, 40 years, for a long time.

Wow. I know that this is. I got goosebumps when you mentioned that because, you know, Ayurvedic medicine is so powerful and it's thousands of years old, and there's lots of wisdom bottled into that. And I love that you're applying these different doshas. Can you explain for people who may not have heard that terminology before, what that means? I'm personally a pitta. What are you?

Kapha.

Kapha. Okay. So why don't you explain, just briefly, if you could explain what the difference is so that people can understand that a little bit better.

So when we're looking at and evaluating people, different patients, clients, whatever you wanted to refer to, they have the. What we call doshas in Ayurvedic medicine. And the importance of looking at that is don't all handle things in the same way. The body types that people have are all really quite different. Some people have what I consider really strong. Body types, and they can handle and strong constitutions. They can handle anything. And other people have very strong, sensitive body types. So I feel like the. I guess the system within Ayurvedic medicine looks at that where in functional medicine, we don't necessarily look at people's body types when we're treating them. So there's three types is the vata, kapha, and pitta. And they refer to, like, the vata refers to air, pitta's fire, and the kapha's earth. And so some, you know, one of my. The guys I work with and import products from, he does. He does Ayurvedic medicine, and he just looks at people and he does their pulse. And it's like, all right, this is what you are. And the attributes, there's attributes that go with all three. And if you look at, say, vata, there tend to be dry, light, cold, rough, subtle. The more clear, maybe more sensitive people, the pita, it's more on the oily side, the sharp, hot light, the mobile, liquid. Those people can be sometimes more of the strong personalities there. And then the kapha is the heavy, slow, cold, dense, soft. Those are some of the attributes that would go towards A kapha. And I think a lot of people are a mixture where they're primarily one, but they have then the next one that they have, and then probably less of the third one. At least that's what I find. I don't know what you find on yours, but with most people, I see that they're primarily one and then they have another and then a little bit of the third.

Yeah, it's like a braid almost. Right. So there's three parts to the braid and we're all braided together all three of the doshas and. But there's a dominant one.

There's a dominant one.

So it's quite. And the goal is to really be balanced. Right. When we're balancing our doshas and compensating in other areas. So for example, you talked about the genetic aspect. We talked kind of jokingly about hair loss. Well, Pitta is generally we tend to run hot, hot. And one of the outward signs of a pita is usually they lose their hair. So it's one of those physical attributes. My wife is a vata, and so she doesn't like the cold. She's very thin, has a hard time gaining weight. It's something that is. That's her constitution. And some people are going to be more of a kapha constitution, and their personalities are going to be different. The foods that they like, the foods that balance them are going to be different. And their personal lifestyle strategy needs to be unique as well. So I think the beautiful mixture of kind of this functional systems biology perspective of the body and the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda coming together in your products is just pretty epic, man. I love it.

One of the things I have found is that especially if they're in chronic illness, which is the type of patient client that I see is they are primarily one, but as they get stronger and healthier, that's when they become more balanced. And that's our approach, is clearing out the toxicity, clearing out the issues that they're dealing with so that we can balance them in those ways. But it seems like their personalities are always tend to be dominant in that and other ones are more subtle personalities. And that's a wonderful thing that makes the world different and enjoyable is that we're all different.

Well, the braid needs three strands, right? So we need all three for that beautiful braid to form. So I love that. I'm going to share a quiz for people who are tuning in live. Deepak Chopra has a quiz. Certainly it's, I would say, for entertainment purposes only. You know, maybe See an ayurvedic practitioner if you definitely want to go a little bit deeper into that. And I find it extremely powerful. So I do apply it in my life as best as I can. Okay, so tell us, tell us. So we start with drainage first. We want to. Obviously, this process takes energy. And sometimes I have to remind people it takes more energy to tear out a kitchen than to install a brand new kitchen, because there's a big mess that's created. You got to break things apart. Things are glued in place. You got to rip them out. And putting the new cabinets in, once you've prepped, the space is a lot easier. So would you kind of equate it to something like that?

I would. The other thing to consider is there's enzymatic processes that occur to detox. And our bodies can do it on their own if they have the energy and the cofactors to be able to do that and aren't being inhibited by the toxins. So that's why we have energy at the beginning with the drainage, so that we can activate the enzymatic processes that need to occur to build hormones, neurotransmitters, to activate enzymes that need to make. To make energy, but also need to be able to do all the processes our body needs to build and repair. And so I have found that if we're doing that at the beginning, their ability to handle things across the board is so much better. And then from there we can go after what's creating the problems at a deeper level. It just makes a big difference that people that want to go right to phase two and start clearing out the parasites in the gut and attacking infections. And then they swell and they have persaming reactions. They don't feel well, and headaches. And they realize, okay, back to phase one. And then the process goes so much smoother.

Okay. Yeah. People want to skip steps. Right. And that's the important part of what's differentiating your protocols from a lot of other protocols that people may have been using. Certainly I was using before I knew this information was, we want to kind of, you know, this is the time of year. It's the beginning of the year. Everyone's detoxing, detoxing, detoxing. And that kind of sounds sexy. We've made that a sexy term. But I think drainage. How do we make drainage sound sexy? So people start there first.

Not so good. It's not easy.

Well, we'll have to come up with some sort of like, terminology. Terminology or marketing strategy around it so that you know, we can, we can hit the mass market just like detox has hit the mass market. So it's like, it just doesn't make sense when you think about it from, from this kind of a new paradigm and perspective to start with, just ramping up detoxification for people.

Absolutely. And you know, we helped, we help practitioners, we created a thing called the roadmap. Your roadmap to health. And it allows them to understand the process, but also allows you to teach your patient or client the same thing and why we go in specific orders. And then we also have created what we call the drainage funnel, which helps them to understand why that is so vital in this process of getting people better. Because if they're not draining properly, then it's just not a good experience. And sometimes people crash because of it, especially sensitive people.

It's like flushing a flooded toilet.

That's a good way to put it. I'm gonna have to use that. I'm gonna have to use that one. You're just over the top and it's just going through.

Well, I like to think in metaphors. I think it really gives people a great visual and I think that's perfect. Right. So if it's not draining, things aren't draining out the bottom, like flushing the toilet, it's just gonna create more of a mess. So there you go.

That one, I'm going to use that. That's. Thank you for helping me out.

I love that. So, so we go, we do drainage, we do detox. What's next?

So then we go into the gut and that's where, because they say 80, 85% of our immune system is in the gut, then we need to really start looking at how do we start scrubbing the stuff out of the GI system. And that's where we use the pyramid one. And the mimosa pudicacy that I was the one that brought that to the market globally to use in healthcare. So there was mimosa pudica, which is the whole plant or the leaf that was being used before a little bit by some practitioners and some companies. But I was blessed to meet some amazing people in India. And they said, this is what you want to use. The life and the energy that comes from that plant is pretty amazing. And it's just a sticky product that helps to bind on things and pull it out. But it also has product, it also has particles in there that are nano sized particles that we've been able to see under our atomic microscope. And so there, there is some cellular function that it does help with as well. And we're doing a lot of research along with some universities in India on the properties of this amazing plant. And we're even working on a documentary about it. So about the journey and we've been over to India and we're going to go back over to do more filming over there and then finish that up hopefully this year. But we use that with a pair one and a pair two. So the pair two is what it has a name of a danga, a clove in there, a trifola kutaja. And these ingredients are amla ingredients are designed to help with clearing out some of the parasites. And they have antimicrobial properties, right? Parasites and yeast, fungus, bacteria, but things like the neem. The neem is also really good for the microbiome and also good for the digestive juices in the liver. So a lot of these products, even though they're spices and bitters, they're not just antimicrobial, they play a lot of other roles that help digestion, which is very important to understand. And so that's the next phase is really focusing on the digestive system. Why we're still supporting energy and drainage in that. And then in the third phase is where we get deeper into the whole body. And so we have some anti. I have other Para 3 product which is a anti parasitic and that anti parasitic is really strong. So it's a tincture that can be absorbed and go more systemic. And we've seen people pass anywhere from tapeworms and liver flukes to even worms coming out of people's noses. And so once that started happening we thought, well, maybe we should do a sinus rinse. And so we had people do sinus rinses with it. And just. It's amazing what has come out of people in that nature.

Dude, we have like, we have hundreds of pictures from clients, right from the stuff that's coming out of them. And it's, it's mind boggling. It truly is. And you know what was mind boggling for me is I had no symptoms. That's what kind of blew my mind is I had no symptoms. I would have never known otherwise. And it just, it's kind of scary when you think about it, right? If you don't have a prophylactic strategy, like for me, I guess the way I would look at this is that because I didn't have a lot of water in my cup, but there is going to be a time in your life where the water is kind of overflowing Right. That's just life. And that's when these things can really run their course. And you know, so it shows the importance of having resilience, but it also shows the importance of having some sort of prophylactic strategy, which is what a lot of countries have. Right. Like countries like India and I know in South America, prophylactically people will be consuming, and maybe even without even knowing they're consuming these spices regularly in their diet, but then annually or biannually, they will actually do some sort of cleansing of these things because they've known for centuries that these are things that we need to get out of our bodies.

Yeah, people in Mexico and Colombia and South America, they take anti parasitic drugs all the time. Every year, school year starts, you're taking the drugs and so. But they also have really awesome spices and habanero and hot stuff and things that also drive these things and create a balance to deal with what they have. So what's interesting is I had this guy that was a top athlete, he did spartan races, done over 20, he's done over 30 Spartan races now. Dr. Randy, he works in my clinic now, but before he did, he's living in Virginia. And I said, look, you got parasites and it'll help you if you do a parasite cleanse. It's like, oh, I'm this athlete and I crank through these, I'm Superman, I crank through these beasts, spartan beasts. Running 17 miles and doing all these obstacles. And he was amazed by doing the parasite cleansing that his energy and his legs ability to recover was so much better. And then we took him to another level with some of our products for optimizing. So with our, our mito ATP product and our biocarbon minerals where we were able to high dose him on some of those before. His races are biomolecular oxygen. And he was able to cut his time down from 19 minutes a mile to 12 to 13 minutes a mile within one race. And the previous, the previous race the year before? Yes, the previous race he did the year before was at an altitude of 2000, 2000ft lower than what he was. So he went from 4200 starting to 6200 the first year. The second year he went from 6200 to 8200 plus a mile longer at 17 miles long up in the mountains in Utah and, and he increased his time dramatically. And so we have a number of athletes up there in Toronto that are using our products that are having their best careers ever that are repairing amazing. So the stuff that we have isn't just for chronic illness. It's for phenomenal athletic performance and repair. And, you know, people that are using biomolecular oxygen topically after surgeries and people for breaks and sprains. And just overall the ability to recover from going and running a marathon, it's just been amazing. We've had Spartan racers that weren't placing, that started placing and then were invited to worlds and the two of them placed second in their age group. And these are women. So we tested a lot of the products and seen what it's done for top level athletes besides chronic illness. Of course we use them for chronic illness. It's a lot smaller doses because they can only handle so much.

Well, I guess the other thing too is we're all on the spectrum somewhere.

That's a good point.

Right. And the road to health is the same for an athlete to continue optimizing and for somebody who's just starting their journey, the road is essentially the same road that you're going to travel. They're just further down the road of optimizing their health and cellular function. And they're pushing their bodies in a way that the average person may not be, but it's, you know, everyone and I know, and I know this is how you feel from the work that you do. Everyone deserves that. Everyone deserves to feel awesome. And maybe we're not a super athlete, but we might want to be a super mom, right? Or a super entrepreneur or a super dad, whatever the case may be. So I'm thrilled, man. I'm so thrilled that we had this conversation, getting a lot of positive feedback. My team is actually messaging me and they're like, oh, this is amazing. So we're excited to have you at Perfect Practice and go deeper into some of these topics and spend a few days with you. And I definitely want to be at your next event because, you know, it was the raving reviews that were getting. Jason even jumped on and said it was the best seminar of his life. And he's somebody who goes to a lot of conferences, so that's an amazing compliment. So thank you for all the amazing work that you do. I'd love to tell people a little bit more about where they can learn about Cellcore biosciences. You want to share a little bit more information about that? Yeah.

The website is cellcorebiosciences.com you guys can also find a link to our next Eco workshop. Eco stands for exponential clinical outcomes. And that will be August 20th through the 23rd in Boise, and it will be in Boise, Idaho for those that don't know of the area. And it'll be three days. So we're changing it up from our previous two that we've done and we're going to have a bigger venue and we'll have other speak additional speakers. But our goal is to help you guys understand at a deep level how these things are affecting you. From mold to Lyme, to parasites and viruses to radiation, glyphosates and all the science behind that, heavy metals, mitochondrial function, cell danger response. We tie that into understanding your current patient and the protocol that can help them understanding what's going to fix those mechanisms within those processes. So it's going to be a lot of fun and I think we're even going to have a little entertainment at night. We have our staff here that are super talented. A couple of our guys used to tour and so we're going to really have a good time here and have fun. But one of the things that we really enjoyed about our first tour conferences are the practitioners and the energy. And it was just the amount of energy that was around was incredible. And we just appreciate everybody that supported us and just the knowledge and the high level people that come is incredible. So there's a lot of networking to do there. And big part of conferences isn't just what you learn, it's the amazing people you meet. Like you and I, that's how you and I have met is at conferences and like, wow, now we're friends and gosh, it's just, it's amazing how your life can change because of the people you meet.

Yeah, I love that man. I'm so excited for you to come to Toronto. You said it was your first time, so we'll make sure that we show you a great time and give you some Canadian love and hospitality. I know our tribe is really excited to go deep with you guys and connect and learn more about the amazing things that you're doing. And I'll do my best to get as many practitioners as I can to that Eco event because from what I understand, it is the best event and I'd love to learn more about how we can even help more people and create this amazing, beautiful world that I know, you know, is possible. And if we can get this information into more people's hands and more practitioners hands, then we can both design that beautiful world that we know is possible.

Wonderful. We appreciate the support and I'm looking forward to being there. First time to Canada for me.

All right. Make sure your passport is. You got your passport.

I have my passport? Yep.

Okay. Love it, man. I'll see you in a few weeks. Keep up the amazing work, and we'll be sure to share this with our practitioners as well.

Thank you.

Good to be here.