The Scott Adams School - 10/12/26 Columbus Day w/ the HOME TEAM

You're wearing your color, Erica, today.

Is this my color?

Yes, it looks so good on you.

I feel very, um, mob wifish with— so I picked these glasses because they're my most like Italian mob wife looking glasses that I have. So happy Columbus Day, everybody!

Buongiorno! Happy Columbus Day!

I think Erica's Italian has to— I have to borrow some of Erica's Italian today.

I can— oh wait, I can give it to you. Yes. I hope you guys saw the thumbnail because I'm very proud of my work for today. Thank you. Thank you. And for those of you celebrating the indigenous people, welcome to the Scott Adams School.

Happy Indigenous Colonizer Day.

You must be new here.

Oh my gosh. Good morning.

This probably could be called Colonizer Day, couldn't it?

I mean, yeah. And as somebody posted a meme in here before, and it just said Columbus is the only Italian that the liberals hate. So yes, let's go. Mm-hmm. Ah, Alien Baby, you're so funny. So you guys, it's a Monday again. I'm so excited. Yes. Okay, before we do the sip, while people come in, I'm gonna let you know. So, you know, I heat up my coffee cup with the instant hot water thing, dump out the water once it gets hot. I put in a little Chobani creamer. Okay, into the microwave it goes. Heat up the Chobani creamer. Then my new thing is the PB2 original peanut butter, 90% less fat and 6 grams of protein. Has a little scooper in it. I put like maybe a half of a little scooper into the coffee.

Does it give a peanut butter flavor?

Yeah. Then you get your frother. Listen, you froth it.

Is that the frother?

Yep. You get a nice thick frothy foam on the third top of your cup and then you pour your hot coffee over it. And all that being said, oh my gosh, I cannot wait to drink it. Okay.

She hasn't drank it.

So here we go. It's time for the sip.

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Oh, well, good. I hope these are predictions, you know. And Scott with the rare shirt with something written on it. That doesn't happen too often. He must have been spicy that Monday. So you guys, welcome. My name is Erica. I'm joined today by— wait, which way? Owen. And I wish I might—

Oh, you got it right this time.

Imagine if my hand could show up in Marcella's over there too, and I was Like, and Marcella, and my hand points at her. Well, we're here, you guys. Another week at the Scott Adams School, um, a, a great, fun, happy place that Scott has left for us to get together, commune, talk news, current events, um, teach some of his amazing lessons. So, uh, we're excited for another week with the fam, with the fam. Oh, okay, so I asked our resident attorney if I could play this clip. I can. There's no music. And I just want to let you know out of the gate, there is spicy language. Okay? So if there's any kids, just give me 1 minute to play this clip because it's a little ode to Columbus Day from The Jersey Sopranos. Here we go.

The New Jersey Council of Indian Affairs has announced plans to disrupt Monday's Columbus Day parade in Newark. Council Chairman Del Red Clay, professor of cultural anthropology— Stop blowing your nose, I want to hear this. Council members and supporters will lie down in the path of Columbus Day marches, quote, in protest of Columbus's role in the genocide of America's native peoples, unquote. To launch their protest, the Native Americans and their sympathizers plan to begin a death watch tomorrow over the statue of Columbus in Christopher Columbus Park.

Some fucking balls badmouthing America, especially now. I thought Columbus was the hero of America.

Oh, see, it's these Indians and the commie fucks. They want to paint Columbus as a slave trader instead of an explorer. You gotta admit, they

did get massacred, the Indians. It's not like we didn't give them a bunch of shit to make up for that.

Okay, so we gave him a bunch of shit to make up for that. I mean, listen, what are you gonna do? So happy Columbus Day and Indigenous something day. Is it just Indigenous People Day? Whatever it is, happy, happy Monday, people. Here we are.

I think as soon as they start using a word like indigenous, they've lost me.

I know, Indigenous People's Day. Come on now. All right, let's move along. I'm just looking at these clips today. They're funny and exciting and I don't have a cat video, you guys, but in lieu of a cat video— oh, did it not come over? Oh, we have something even better. All right, Marcella, I'm going to play this quick clip and then you can just tell us what's happening.

Thanks, guys. Good morning. Fox News alert now breaking at this hour. Federal agents executing a search warrant at the home of Ilhan Omar in Washington, D.C. So we're told the raid happened right around 6 a.m. The nature and target of that investigation is not clear. DOJ spokesperson saying the warrant was secured as part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation.

I told you it was better than a cat video. So, Marcella, potentially what could be happening right now?

They could find lots of gold. I don't know. Anything could be possible. It's a federal holiday today. So, so they— I wonder if they knocked and said, Happy Columbus Day, and they came in, you know?

No, Indigenous People's Day, I'm sure they said.

No, I'm thinking if it's the FBI guys, they must have said maybe both, maybe both, to make it that, that better. Um, the only thing about it is that they're trying to find things that are many years ago. Um, one of the things that the issue is that some of the things are like the statute has run, but civilly It's unlimited. There is no statute for what she— if she defrauded the United States in regards to her immigration status. However, you never know if it's truly just immigration they're looking for, right?

Right.

She owned this winery, allegedly, um, and then she didn't own it. Like, she came from one year— this is alleged and reported— that she at one point made millions with her husband. At another point, she doesn't make millions anymore. So I don't know what exactly they're looking for, but you're not an innocent bystander if you're gonna.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Maybe I don't know.

I remember her. Yeah, maybe remember her on Charlemagne the God. She's like, "Go ahead, search, look for anything you want." Okay, well, they're looking, and I would assume Owen they wouldn't do this raid unless they had some good info.

Probable cause.

Well, I don't know. I mean, I probably, but they at least have some kind of suspicion. But I think, and and. I'm assuming they had to have whatever probable cause standard to do a search warrant. So they probably are very specifically looking for something as opposed to just a general fishing expedition. Although I'm sure if you look on the left, that's probably what they're saying it is. And I'm sure they're very upset by it. I mean, how often do we raid congresspeople's house? Right. So it is a relatively remarkable thing from that perspective. And I'm glad to see it happening though. I think it is a sign that we're not like, having a lower standard for Congress than we would for other people. And that's something I've been wanting to see. Yeah. And I honestly wouldn't mind it if they did it to a Republican as well, if they were guilty of something. And I know we've had at least a couple cases of that, but, you know, it seems like we should be holding them to the same standard, if not a higher standard, because they're supposed to be our representatives and they're supposed to be making the laws. So they should certainly be subject to them themselves.

Mm-hmm. Marcela?

So, so the warrant has to be very specific to be legal. It has to outline what they're searching for. However, when they're inside, at least from my limited knowledge of criminal, they can do the plain sight, plain view doctrine, which means if they see something that's outside of the warrant, but they— but it's criminal, that they can also go after that. Um, whatever is in plain sight, whatever they, you know, gather, you know, if they're looking for a specific thing and within that specific thing they see something else, then that becomes part of legally— it can be legally brought to the investigation. So

yeah. But I mean, that still seems rather broad in terms of like, if you're saying I'm looking for a document, for example,

that

could be just about anywhere, right? Like you could say that's in a drawer, that's in a closet, that's in a safe, that's anywhere, right?

Milani is Underwear drawer.

Yeah, there's certainly precedent for that, right? So yeah, I think if they do it to her, they can— we should be able to do it to Ilana Mar.

That's right.

Uh, I don't really want to see her underwear on TV though.

I don't want to— no, no, I don't want to see anything of her ever anywhere. I don't want to hear her. It's like nails on a chalkboard.

It went from specificity of, uh, whatever the word is, of warrant to underwear. Okay.

Well, you know, we're good at that here.

We're here for you guys.

Yep. Scott changes well. Anything.

Perturbed.

Uh, poor people. Just one— was it like how many? 2 months. 2 months after the last, uh, what was that, a flood that they had? Um, another one, you guys. And there's, you know, there was 1,500 people killed in the first one, but 5,000 are still missing. So I mean, now look, take a look. This is horrible. This is, uh, just ripping through another place in Nepal, wiping out entire villages. Like, see the little houses on the left there on the bottom? Uh, do we know any more about this? Does anyone know?

Yeah, they what? Previous one, China was doing some kind of, uh, like finding minerals or construction or something, and it let down a glacier down like the very— in that particular area, and then it slowly went down and then fast after it melted. So there's destruction there going on.

This is so sad.

I mean, reportedly, I don't know what— why this one was caused. The previous one, this was in the border of China and Tibet area, so a lot of tourists go there.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, I mean, and I think that it isn't necessarily proven that the Chinese construction did it, but I think the suspicion is that potentially by having that construction activity in that region That it might have disturbed the glacier and might have caused the avalanche that then caused the flood. And so it's a possibility that what China was doing in that area was responsible, but I don't think anyone's proven that. I think it's just that, you know, they do obviously know that something came off the glacier and then caused this cascading effect.

But yeah.

Um, looks like I'm seeing a story that says it's— there's more than 1,400 people dead, thousands missing. 200 homes damaged, 650 people were impacted by this flood. I think that's this one. They've rescued 95 people, including 9 foreigners. So far they don't have any casualties, but they do have 5 people that are missing.

I just saw— who just said that? Alien? Yeah, Alien blamed global warming. It's like, forget the global warming thing. We're doing this. Mankind is doing a lot of these things we're seeing, like manipulating weather. You know, like remember when Dubai was like, oh, we need to seed some rain, we're really dry here. Then they flooded their whole thing. It's like, what are you doing? You know, you, you can only do so much and you have to let nature take its course. But when you want to change what Mother Nature is doing and you think that, you know, you're God and you can play the, the weather lord, I mean, we are, We are creating some— and also when they're doing the things with the airplanes, what's that called? Um, those clouds.

Cloud seeding?

Yeah, cloud seeding. What the hell? It's really sick. So, um—

Wouldn't it be fun to have Erica as Weatherlord though?

Yeah, we— it would be, it would be so perfect.

And then there's that fog that like has all this poisonous gas in it or something.

And the little pellets they're dropping onto people's farms.

I swear Fresno has that. I swear the fog in Fresno is unreal. That's in the middle of California. And I always think, hmm, interesting.

Seems odd, right?

Very odd. Very odd.

Yeah. So yeah, cloud seeding. You know who's all over the cloud seeding? Do you guys know Jim Brewer? He's a comedian. He's from New Jersey and he's I love it 'cause he used to be so timid about speaking up about anything 'cause he didn't want like his social life, like his show business friends like Howard Stern to like never have him on the show again. And I could hear him on Howard. I go way back with Howard, you guys, but I could hear him on Howard and just kind of being like, oh, I'll just push it a little bit. But like once like COVID hit and everything, he's like, that's it, the gloves are off. And now he's just like, and we're, you know, messing up the weather and the cloud seeding. And he moved to Florida, he's filming it every day. He bought a gun. He's like, I can't take it anymore.

He bought a gun?

He did. He's like, all the things I never thought I would, like, say or do, I'm doing it. And that's just what happens. Like, eventually you snap and you're like, can I just stop pretending this is normal and okay? So I love him.

He reminded me, chemtrails is the other—

Yeah,

the

chemtrails too.

Yeah, you never know.

It's not—

it's all just water. It's all just water vapor, Marcella. No big deal. Nothing to see here.

That's right, Andy. Marianne sent me a nice birthday message. Andy and I go way back with Howard also, us Jersey folks. Folk. Okay, so listen, pray for the weather, pray for the Earth. There's a lot of places, you know, we just had that one in Florida. California is getting bombarded with stuff. It's crazy town. Let's take it down. Okay, so I have for you, um, so many more things, but I thought let's get right to Scott because there was 2 different clips that I came across. And I, I think like, you know, we keep promoting jobs and trades and this and that. The FBI is hiring. Mike Rowe is promoting that website now. So let's talk about if you get a job interview. Also, what kind of job should you have? Do you have to have passion for your job or not? So, um, let's talk about passion first, okay? And Scott's gonna, uh, do that for us, and then we're gonna talk about now you have to go for a job interview and what do we do. So let's sit back and relax for a few minutes, take notes, take notes, and let's go.

How many times have you heard from billionaires that the secret to success is passion? If you follow your passion. I became a little bit famous for mocking that. They say you should have passion for what you do, you know, you don't want to work on something you don't have passion, wait for your passion. But here's what you need to think about that. Try to imagine what else they could have said as an answer to that question without sounding like Giant douchebags. They couldn't say, for example, I think I'm smarter than poor people. Even if they are, right? You can't say that. They can't say, it's because I worked harder than poor people, because there's a good chance their gardeners are working pretty hard, right? They can't say they were lucky, because then their whole mystique is gone. It's like, well, why should I listen to you? You were just lucky those few times. times, right? So, if it isn't, you know, passion, what is it? I remember when I was working as a commercial lender at a big bank, one of my earliest careers, I had a boss who taught us that if somebody came in and they wanted a loan to start their business and they had a real passion for it, let's say it's somebody who really likes sports and they wanted to start a sporting good kind of a business. My boss said, do not give that person a loan, all right, because they're in it for the wrong reason, all right. They're in it for sort of the fun and the passion. As soon as things get hard, it's not fun anymore. They're going to bail out. We have a long history of these people being bad credit risks. He goes, the one you want is a guy comes in and he says, yeah, here's my spreadsheet. I want to start a, let's say, a dry cleaning store. It's a boring little business. I've looked at the location. It's good. I've managed people like this before. I'm putting my own money into it. I know this kind of business. This guy's a grinder. Passion? Probably none. Dry cleaning? Who's passionate about dry cleaning? Probably nobody. That guy gets the loan though, right? Look around even this room. Every piece of material in the room, the computers, everything, the carpet, Probably represents somebody who got rich. It was either the person who invented it. It might be the CEO of the company that's running it now. But somebody's getting rich on really boring shit. I mean, look at this stuff. You know, somebody made this light and it's like, hey, this light sells really well. Are you passionate? Well, I'm rich. That feels pretty good. I was talking about this to a friend and he said, you know, I hear what you're saying and it kind of makes a little bit of sense, but, you know, have you ever watched American Idol? He said, the people who win American Idol, look at the passion that those people have. And that had to make a difference because they're going against long odds in a really competitive type of industry. And, you know, passion had to make a difference. And I said to him, Do you watch the entire season? Because in the first few shows, they show stadiums full of people who are completely passionate. And you know what all of those stadiums full of passionate people have in common? They all failed. If you're trying to find the correlation, you know, what's the biggest correlation with success, it might be failure or it might be, you know, these people who are passionate. So, you might ask yourself if passion is limited. And in my case, I can tell you that I once took a— I made a list of all the things I'd failed at just in the business realm, right? Forget about my personal life. That's a whole much bigger list. But just in the business realm, the things I tried to invest in, businesses I tried to start. I had about 30 failures. These count a couple of corporate careers, a few restaurants I've started, things I tried to invent, startups I've tried before, and they added up. There's about 30 of them. I can tell you that I was passionate at some point with every one of them because they were a good idea and I thought, oh, this could work. This would really make a difference. This has changed my life. And then when something goes wrong or you look into it and you find out the numbers don't work, your passion goes away. Dilbert was one of 30-ish things I've tried. I didn't have especially more passion for it than anything else, but it made me rich. And I got to tell you, I'm pretty excited about it now. So, and I'm out of time. Um, I would just recommend that you use energy instead of passion and look for ways to keep your health and your fitness up. Don't be confused by passion. Look for things that are good ideas. Thank you.

Love it. Oh my gosh, you guys. And thank you to Jay Plummons for putting that together because there was just another clip without the before and the after. So that's beautiful. And I love when he said, and I'm out of time, you heard the audience go, oh, they're like, we want more Scott. And you know what? So do we. And, uh, you know, Marcella and Owen, are you passionate about your careers, your jobs? Uh, Marcella, are you a passionate lawyer?

I'm passionate about arguing and defending people my whole life. So, you know, I'm, I'm the heir of Scott, like, actually did what I'm passionate about. But I'm passionate about a lot of things. I was passionate about archaeology that did not pay any money. So I think the whole money involved, you know, makes me more excited to do a case if I'm being paid for a case.

Is the reason you became a lawyer because you were passionate about it?

There was no other way. I became a lawyer right after working My father was a lawyer as well, so that, you know, it comes with the territory of what I was used to. But I worked at that dealership and selling cars and, and doing things for them. And then that's when I realized, oh, I need to know my rights. There's so many things that are being done here that are illegal, blah, blah,

blah. Oh, shit.

A few years later, FBI raided them. Um, so they, they prompted me to understand that in order for me to— whatever I did knowing the law and knowing and being a lawyer is always helpful. Even if I wasn't going to practice forever, it's always helpful to know. And so I went to law school immediately after that. I was taking my LSATs and I was like, okay, do this. And everybody's like—

So it was kind of like out of necessity and wanting to know more?

Out of necessity. Yeah, out of necessity. And also because I'm I'm— I, I like doing that kind of stuff. I like reading. You have to love reading, and you have to like writing, and you have to like being spicy.

All right, Owen, are you passionate about your career?

No, I would not say that. And I would probably say that was never how I would have described it. I think I would have always— I mean, certainly I might have come across a little bit that way when I was interviewing for the job, but I think the The real thing is I knew that it would just be better for me for my career. Like, I looked at my options coming out of college. I knew I wanted to work in IT, but I had— I could go into a corporation and be part of their IT department. But back then, that was like the early '90s, right? And so the internet was brand new. Like, it wasn't really a big thing yet and it was just coming out. And so like IT wasn't usually like the center of the company. You know, it wasn't like critical to the success of the company. It was mostly still people-based. And usually in my experience, in my jobs that I had had up to that point included some corporations, and it was like, okay, in this particular company I'm working at, I can tell that the marketing department really runs things. And IT is seen as like this lesser-than thing. We gotta have it, but it's not really that important and we wish we didn't need it. And things have changed a lot. Now IT is probably the heart of most corporations in many ways. But I think at the time I just thought, okay, I'm to be sitting there maintaining some backroom system. I'm never going to get to the top of anything. You know, I might rise to the top of IT, but it's going to be really slow and boring. And so I thought, okay, well, if I go into consulting, then they're basically selling me as their service. Like, I am the core of the business. So that seems like a lot better situation. And it's something where I could, you know, go as high as I want to or could at that company, and it would potentially be unlimited. And it would also be very fast-paced because you go from one project to another. Whereas at a company, you might do a big project once, but then you're just kind of like maintaining stuff for a while and you might not be able to go on to that next big thing. And so that was really what led me to that choice. And since then, it's probably more just based on getting good at it and getting good feedback and, you know, getting raises and promotions and other things. And that's the way I kind of look at it, is that if you are successful, you're going to get a lot of natural dopamine hits and rewards from that success because people are going to be like, wow, you're really good at this. And That could be any skill, whether you're a musician or whatever it is. And so, you naturally become more passionate when you're good at something. And if you're better than most people at something, then you're going to feel like, wow, I really accomplished something. And now you're naturally more passionate about it. So, I mean, Scott put it in terms of being rich, but I think it's even just the recognition or the status or the feedback, the positive feedback you get that I think can help develop that passion in something that maybe you didn't like when you first started because you weren't good at it. And at first, you have to get through that failure or that novice stage where you're not very good at it. But if you can get past that to where you really do become good at something, then I think you can reach the point where you still have that passionate nature to it. Now, I would fast forward to today and say, I don't know that I would describe it as passion, but I would say that I really enjoy when I help clients. I enjoy when I solve problems for people. I enjoy when I learn new things. And when I feel like I'm growing. And I think those are the things that I look for in my work.

I love that. Yeah, good. So sometimes it's like out of necessity, but then you can find the passion within it when you see how it affects other people. And that's lucky, you know, that's, that's lucky for both of you that you can feel that way. Um, I love that. So for me, um, I'm the kind of—

I was gonna say, what about you?

Yeah, I know. For me, so I Scott would laugh because like Scott, my talent stack is hysterical. I mean, I, I, I highly recommend people not burrowing into one industry or one job. I think, you know, try a bunch of different things. If you guys knew all of the different career paths and jobs and businesses I've owned and things I've tried and done and whatever, you would be like, what are you, 95 years old? Like, how did you have time to do all these different things? Mm-hmm. But that's my nature. Like, I'd rather have 25 appetizers than one entree. And

you showed off part of your talent stack at the beginning with your product showcase.

Oh, see that? Like a little QVC model over here. Yeah, so I definitely have a crazy talent stack. I think if anyone in my family is listening right now, they're laughing because, you know, just, I just kind of couldn't sit still. But because of that, I've had so many amazing experiences and opportunities that I feel like I can't list them, Halsey. It's crazy. You would laugh. It's a funny story. But, you know, I just like a whole variety and just, I feel like it makes you kind of well-rounded too. You know a little bit about a lot of things. And so my experiences in life have been very fulfilling. And then I do have friends or family who've maybe done one thing forever. And the thought of them now, like, so some of them are at like retirement age or like they just can't do the thing they've been doing anymore. Maybe physically it's become too challenging or whatever. And they're just like, I can't do anything else. I've only done this one thing. And it's crazy to me because they've never even been on a job interview. They've just done this one thing their whole life. And now they feel like paralyzed from Moving into something else, and they're like, "Well, I don't know how to do anything else." I'm like, "Well, people will train you, and it's easy enough to learn." And but it's it's so I recommend doing a bunch of different things. You know, don't abandon your jobs. I mean, you want to be a great employee. Always be a great employee. Learn as much as you can. Be as helpful as you can. Stay late. Show up early. All of those things. Try to learn as much about everybody's jobs within the place that you're working because it just. It's like it's like a free education to learn more. So take advantage of those things. But so now we get to the point where it's like, okay, I have to go on a job interview, right? I just saw this recently being discussed in the news where they're like, it's it's apparently alarming and shocking to people going on job interviews now that you should not walk in with your iced coffee from Starbucks. I was like, what? This is like a discussion now. They're like, should you bring in your latte? When you go on a job interview. I mean, like, is this really something we have to tell people now? Apparently it is. Um, don't bring in a latte, people. I mean, good God, leave it outside. Um, so anyway, it's just funny. So Scott was on a Periscope back in the day, and I guess somebody just said, you know, teach us how to go on a job interview. And so he decided, okay, I can do that right now. So let's hear Scott's take on Going for a job interview, and let's see how it compares to what we think today. Here we go.

Micro lesson idea: How to nail the interview. I can I can do that. You want to know that now? How many of you would like to know how to nail a job interview? I think I could do that right now. So here are my. Here's my advice for a job interview. First of all, there's nothing better than just being the most prepared person. So obviously, if you've got a good talent stack, et cetera, that's the best thing you could do. The next thing is you want to show that you have a commitment to learning because the best employees are the ones that are going to learn and going to take on new stuff. So you want to project the thought that you're a learning machine. You've learned a lot of things. You want to learn new things. You want to learn everything there is. So when you talk about your desire to learn new things, your employer just lights up. It's like, oh, okay, I guess somebody will be able to like really fill in a lot of things. Obvious promotion. So learning is just a key. The other thing is they want to be comfortable with you. So you want to know that you're not a complainer. So you don't want to say something like, you know, when he says, why did you leave your last job? The last thing you want to do is to say that your boss was a bad boss. Never say that. Never throw your old company under the bus if you're trying to get a job at a new company. Because they would quite rightly say, that's the way you're going to talk about me when you leave. All right. So you want to always put the best possible spin on your last employer. So that's important. You also want to make sure that you've presented to them what's in it for them. So you're not there for them to just ask you questions. You're there to present a proposition. That hiring you is better than hiring the other people. So you've got to make a direct proposition what you can bring them, and it has to be direct. So one of the things you could say is, look, you know, I have all the qualifications for this job, but I've looked into your company a little bit and I see you also have a little weakness over here. That's something I can do because I have those skills as well. So I get you. So you, if you hire me, you get a twofer. I'll do the job and I'll be good at it. I have all the qualifications you're looking Probably 100 other guys have them too, but the other thing I'm gonna bring you is I can do this other thing. So if you find somebody else who can do these 2 things, good luck. So that's where your talent stack helps. But more specifically, you want to give them a concrete proposition of what your extra is, because the other people won't do that. The other people just answer questions. Maybe ask a few. But they're not going to be selling themselves. So you don't want to be selling yourself too much. But if you're saying you get me plus these extra benefits and, you know, that might be valuable to you, then you've told, told your employer what's in it for them. So you want to, you want to show that you're agreeable, you're easy to work with. And by the way, sometimes I say that directly. Actually, almost all the time I say this directly. When I get into a business arrangement with anybody for anything, I generally tell them directly and upfront that it's my philosophy to give extra, because it is. So, you know, if I have a job description, I would tell my boss, look, I'm not about sticking to the job description. I'm gonna do what needs to get done. So, you know, you don't hire somebody who's just gonna slavishly do the job description. I'll do that too, but I'm gonna do what needs to get done. Yeah, I'm an adult. And so you want to sell yourself as somebody who's bigger than the job, but not so big that you will want the boss's job. You don't want to threaten the boss's job. That's not good. But you want to look like you're so helpful that you're going to be the easiest person to work with. You know, you'll be a self-starter. You'll be teaching yourself new things. You'll be volunteering to fill in places that nobody even knew needed to be filled in. So it's all about presenting the extra. Think about the extra. And then also use pacing and leading. So pacing is when you match the person in any way. So if you let's say you walk in and you see the person's got hunting paraphernalia, you're not a hunter. You don't even like anything about hunting, let's say. But you know you want this job, so you might use language that's sort of hunting related because it almost certainly will work. So you might say, "Well, you know, I was locked and loaded," and you know, I was I was a you know, I was just walking down the trail. I was. You know, I got off a good shot or something like that. Those are terrible examples because they sound too violent, but the point is, if you can get a read on the person, you can adjust your language to use the type of words that would be most comfortable to them. And they say, oh, you're one of me. Yeah, I talk like that. Just like me. So you want to match your boss without being too obvious about it. Your potential boss, the one that's going to hire you. Somebody says psychological manipulation. Is it? You know, listen, put yourself in the boss's position. Put yourself in the boss's position, and I come in for the interview. It's, you know, not me the cartoonist. I'm just coming in for a job, and I do everything I just recommended. What would be your opinion of me? If I did everything I recommended and you knew that I was doing it for the purpose of getting the job, you knew that I was manipulating the situation to get the job, what would you think of me? Well, if you're smart, you'd say, how well am I doing it? Because if I'm manipulating him and I'm doing it well, meaning that I have legitimately offered a value proposition, I've explained it well. I haven't made a mistake. I hire that guy. Do I care that he's putting on a show? No, that's why I invited him here. I invited him here to put on a show. That's why you're here. So if I put on a show and he knows I'm putting on a show and he knows it's part of the theater and the psychological manipulation of it, but I'm completely transparent. There's nothing tricky going on. I'm putting on a show. That's why we're here. And I do it well. I got the job. So that is what I recommend. Match your, match your potential boss's breathing, posture. Sit up straight. Use your body language. Take up space, etc. All right, what are your best questions to ask them? Oh, that's a good question to ask me, actually. First of all, you should always ask them questions. You should have some prepared, and it should be a question that shows some insight about their company. That's the best question. You don't want to ask a selfish question such as And what kind of cubicle would I have? Would I have a view? Those are not the good ones. The good questions are such things such as, I've noticed that your industry is starting to move in this direction, but if you do, does that put you in direct competition with Amazon, and how are you going to handle that? You ask a question like that, you got the job, right? Because people just don't think strategically about what they're doing. Now, that was sort of a big picture one. It might have been a smaller question. You could say, you know, I noticed that your production's almost at capacity and business is good. What do you think is going to happen when you're at capacity at this plant? Because that shows you're thinking ahead and you're looking at the big picture and stuff. So the question is not about getting the answer. The question is a way to show that you can ask a damn good question. All right, if you can ask a damn good question, that's very impressive. It's one of the most impressive things you could possibly do is ask a good question. That really stands out because it doesn't happen a lot. Somebody talked about the firm handshake being out. You know, that's true, and it does make me wonder about the awkwardness because the value of the handshake is it was like punctuation. You knew where the end of the sentence was and the beginning of the sentence. So it's like, okay, beginning of the sentence, and then later, end of the sentence. So the ceremony of shaking hands, you know, had a number of benefits, but one of them was you could tell when it was over. What's going to happen when people can't tell if the meeting's over? Because haven't you ever, uh, haven't you ever rushed a meeting up by By the handshake, you know you'd be you'd be chatting at the door and you're just okay we're done we're done. You're thinking in your mind, but somebody needs to say we're done. And since nobody can say well we're done now okay bye, it's just awkward. How many times have you ever just took it put out your hand and said wow it was great to see you because that's exactly the same as saying we're done here I gotta go. Now we need a whole new thing, like actually a new thing, a new standard for we're done here. I gotta go.

Great advice for like why do I look so freaking tan? Is it Columbus Day? What's happening? Great advice, you guys, for so much in life. I mean, as people point Goldie pointed out meetings everything. But I gotta tell you, I've interviewed so many people. In my time, if you're not making eye contact with me, if you know, if you're not telling me you know something about my business and asking questions, I'm just like ah, you know. So the the best advice to me is study the company you're going to interview for and actually know the company, and then talk to the person interviewing you about the company and let them know that you've done your homework. You're like oh, I see that you know, like Scott said, that you you know you have growth in this industry. And perhaps you're expanding over here. I really love that about this company. I'm excited for these types of things. This is what drew me to you. I cannot tell you how many people have sat in front of me and they're just like, hi, um, can— do I have to work every weekend? And I, I don't wanna. And you're like, what? So like, be the person that they want to hire because there are some idiots out there. And you know, Just stand out, stand out in the crowd. Owen, you've had to interview people, right?

Yeah, I think Scott is spot on with all of his advice. It's just as true as it was when he said it, and if anything, even more so. Because I think, you know, it does seem to me, at least the stories I see in the news, are that there's weird things like the iced coffee are happening. We've even had stories where people are bringing their parents to a job interview, which is just hard to believe. that anyone would think that was ever okay. But, you know, some of these things I would consider like kind of, well, of course I'm going to do that. And you might think that when you hear them, but I would tell you that it's not as common as you would imagine that people do these things. Like something that's kind of an extension of what he said about knowing something about the business and pointing out another area that you might be able to help with is like Ramit Sethi included this thing he calls the briefcase technique, where he says before you do the job interview, to create like a 10-page report or something on how you would solve the problems that you see with the business. And obviously, you want to cast it in a positive light and not say, look how screwed up you are. But like, if you do a good job of saying like, here's some things I could help you with and here's how I could help you. And by the way, you're welcome to use this report whether you hire me or not, you know, just here, here's this thing. I have never once seen anyone do that. And it strikes me as the type of thing that would be really impressive. And I tried it and I would say that it worked. I mean, it's like, I will say that like I did this at my current company. Someone had told me, because you're kind of interviewing for projects, you're not just, you know, like you, people will talk to you before they decide to put you on a project, especially if they don't know you or they don't know enough people that know you. And so I was doing this and the person told me, like, I was in the top 3 people that he was considering for the role, which means, I mean, in this kind of job interview situation, right? And I had already talked to him, so I'm like, well, what can I do? And I did this report, I generated with AI. I told him I generated with AI, but I said I'd spent a bunch of time on it, went back and forth and researched, like, here's how I would approach this role. And he got the report, thanked me for it, and he said, you're my top guy now. Like, you're the top person. Now, he did get back to me and say, for other reasons, which I think were somewhat political, he ended up having to go with someone else. But he's like, I'm probably gonna come back to you. You know, I don't know if this other person's gonna work out. So, you know, I may ask you to join a little later. And that's exactly what happened. That's my current project. I am, and I'm in a much higher position than I was interviewing for before. Mm-hmm. In fact, I think I'm being groomed to take my boss's job. And it was almost immediate that that started. So I think he was very impressed by that and very impressed by just the way I think about things. And a lot of that includes the asking questions part. And that's one of the parts where I think it's even more important because in the age of AI, asking the right questions is something that is almost like it becomes a big part of your job is to know what to ask the AI or know what to ask it to do. And so it's not as much about the just, you know, create me a presentation or create me a slide or create me a document or create me a spreadsheet. It's more like, you know, what should the spreadsheet have in it? Like, what, you know, what, what questions should it even answer? And are we asking the right questions to solve the problem that we have? And so if you can show that insight, I think it shows that you have that skill set that will be important. But I think even apart from that, that is really important because the way Scott described it, I can tell what it's really creating in the other person's mind is, wow, this is a smart person. That's really— and, you know, their head's in the right place. They're thinking about the right things. They're not focused on silly things. They're focused on important things. He He obviously did the research to be able to ask a question like that. That's relevant. It's about my business. It shows that he understands the business. It's, you know, all these different things are communicated in that one question. And that's one of the challenges with a job interview is you only have like a half hour or an hour to make an impression on someone. And so, you really have to figure out, okay, how can I communicate a lot of these unspoken messages without wasting a lot of time doing it?

Right.

And so, I think everything he said is exactly how I approach job interviews. What I look for. And I think the other thing I would point out is just what you should think about is what are the questions that the interviewer has? Like, what are they trying— what are they worried about? What are they looking for outside of just what's in the job description? But just like, one thing would be, is this a high-risk hire? Like, is this somebody that might not be a good person for this? So if you can have that comfort stuff that Scott talked about, I think that's what that's getting at. And then the extra part is also like, okay, you know, will this person be able to learn? Because in any new job, you're gonna have a lot of things to learn. And so that's, that's part of it. And I will tell you, like, one time I got hired, I got feedback from the person who interviewed me, and I think he was really the one who made the hiring decision. And he told me, he's like, yeah, you were a no-risk hire. And I could tell in our interview because you have all these different skill sets. And so even though I'm pretty sure you'll do fine in the job we hired you for, even if that didn't work out and we couldn't keep you busy doing that because the market went down or whatever, You'd be able to do 3 other things that we do, right? And you'll, you'll be fine no matter what. So I, I was— that was an easy decision for me. That's what he told me.

Yeah, so you show that you're valuable not just for the job you're interviewing for, but for the company. And I think that's really important. I love that. Um, Marcella, you know, how about— my 2 things are, if your parents or your mommy is gonna call the place and be like, my son or daughter's looking for a job, Just know, no. Like, if your mommy is calling me for anything, you are so never working here. Um, also, I feel bad for these kids who think that they're God's gift because their parents tell them they are, and they're so entitled. So I think that it would be important to let these people know, like, you're not God's gift to this company. And so, you know, what, what, you know, what should, what should the mindset be going in?

I mean, it depends on what type of job you're in. In law, I would have to say that who your parent is sometimes does make a difference. If your parent is the owner of the firm, you're obviously going to get an interview, or your parent is a judge. Well, that's different. It's not even mentioned in the interview, but you're aware of their last name, of who they know, But I did— I've done 2 things in my career. One was in one of the interviews, I pretended I already worked there. And in their mind, they're like, oh yeah, and so like, you're gonna be here tomorrow morning, right? I was like, yeah. So it was weird. It was like I led him to think I was already taking notes, asking him about what was he needing, what was this, what was that. Um, it was a legal job. And so I was already going like, okay, okay, okay. I was already making it affirm that I worked already in the firm. And he was like, okay, like, all right, you're working. Like, it was funny. The other one was, you know, in government you have several interviews and you have a panel of interviewers, and they have set questions and set numbers of what they want to do. But how I treated that is I was interviewing them instead of them interviewing me. That's important. And looking at, like, having eye contact, like Erika said, but also remembering their names, saying their names. That's a Bill Clinton move, you know, that he had the persuasion of every time he met somebody, he would shake their hand, And say their name. Sometimes you do more than shake their hand, but I would caution you to do more than just shake a hand at a job interview.

Just kiss directly on the lips.

Yeah. So one of the things I interviewed a lot of people and a lot of people get very nervous in interviews and I told them, you know what, don't get nervous. They're just— the interviewers are just as nervous as you are because some of them are not used to interviewing. People. So just relax. Remember that they're human and that you can manipulate whatever you— I didn't use the word manipulate, but you can, you know, um, persuade them in the way that you want them to be. So you just have to be on time, um, have to have the right clothing, because some people wear the, the craziest clothes to job interviews. They bring the craziest to job interviews. One of them came in with sunglasses, and we were wondering what was going on. There are so many different things.

And if you are thirsty or one of those people that needs your emotional support water, you can ask them if you can have some water, and that is perfectly acceptable, and they will go get it for you even if they have to leave the room to get it. It's a perfectly polite thing to do, but coming in with the water bottle is a

Yeah, don't come in with your security bottle.

If you're coming with water, bring water for the interviewers, you know, or bring, bring drinks for them, you know, like, you know, pitcher

margaritas. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know, just if you're already going crazy, just go crazy all the way.

Come in with a Tupperware Jell-O shots.

But it depends on your job. If your job is to be a bartender or like a hostess, Hostess of some kind that you want to make people drink more, then that's the type of job that you bring Jell-O shots. Yeah,

bring a salt shaker, it makes you thirsty.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to be a lawyer, uh, you don't do that.

Marcela, gosh, if we have to get that basic for these people, that's a problem. But yes, Marcela is correct, don't bring Jell-O shots to your corporate job interview.

Wear clothes.

Wear— and wear clothes and not sunglasses and look professional and smile. Shower. Shower. And if, again, if we have to tell you all of this, you're not gonna apply.

No, we do. We do for the interviewers.

Yeah.

Show up to the interview. A lot of them were ghosting us, like, in the last round of interviews. We're like, they're, they're like not even coming.

My advice too is I feel like, um, people are lazy now about interviewing and they're like, oh no, an interview online. I'm like, no, fill out the application, get your resume, go to the place, show up professional, and just say, I see that you're hiring, I want to personally bring by my resume, and in the off chance anybody, you know, I— that I could speak to, I would love to do that right now. Show up, show your face. Like, everybody on an application, it's so easy to flip through them and throw them out because it's like there's a grammatical error, or I don't like, you know, like something they wrote, and maybe just like messed up something and you throw it out, but show up to the place. I do not like this online thing. Just go drop it off. The receptionist will get a look at you and then she can tell the boss what they thought.

I think the online application process in many companies is just broken because they have AI screening resumes, they have HR screening resumes, and they don't look for the right things. And a lot of times the hiring manager will say, I'm not getting the right candidates, but it's because the right candidates would have been in there maybe, but never got to them because it was screened out by some stupid thing. And I've had that experience myself too, that I got most of my jobs through referrals, most of them. And that includes the one I'm in now. And it includes most, like really almost all of them except for the one in college and the one, like maybe one or two others, like where I just applied. But even, even that, I think— Thanks, guys. Like one time, Fox

Sorry.

The one time that I, uh, the one time that I did try like just online applications, I probably filled out over 100 of those things and I didn't get any interviews. Not even one. And I was qualified for the jobs.

That's what I'm saying. So you agree, show up at the place.

Don't interview on Friday. The one time I did interview on Friday, I did not get the job. I'm glad I didn't get the job. But yeah,

I

recommend it. Andy said that.

Yeah,

yeah.

Um, Tuesday, Wednesday, stop in, put on a big smile, meet the receptionist. Because you know that the receptionist is like the key to the kingdom, you guys. If you make a good impression on the receptionist, she's gonna tell the other people that are hiring because they're gonna say, oh, what'd they look like? Were they nice? And then, you know, they could be like, oh yeah, really pleasant, look professional. And if you think the receptionist is some peon at an office and you are just like dismissing them, you are so off your game. They know everything. So yes, they are the gatekeeper. So show up to the jobs, bring a resume, smile, professional. You make a first impression because they're gonna relay that. And you never know, someone might be able to interview you right there on the spot. So be prepared for that and hope for that because you're going like at a good time for you where you feel prepared. How do you dress for the resume drop? You dress very professional, like you would every day at that office. You're not showing up in jeans and sneakers and a sweatshirt because you're running in to drop something off. You're showing up as a representative of how you present yourself, so you better freaking look good. That's all I'm saying. We have two minutes left. Andy Wang is reminding me. Thank you, Andy. And I just want to close with a couple of funny little Trump clips if no one minds. Because he's been rallying, you guys. Okay, first, where is it? Oh, and tomorrow I want to show some things too. Did I not bring it over? Okay, I have one clip for you. So this is Trump at a rally talking about— well, why do I have to set it up? I don't. Listen to this. He's so funny.

And a bill that would change the terms of mother and father to gestating and non-gestating parents. You, you can no longer say mother. Hi, Mom. It's hi, gestating. Hi, gestating. I love you so much, gestating mom. New York needs—

Hi, gestating. I love you, gestating. He's so funny. I love it.

And I guess the father becomes non-gestating Right? Maybe it was non-gestating. Yeah,

perhaps. Depends.

I'm not going to answer to non-gestating.

I wouldn't answer to gestating. I mean, what are we doing? Like, you wait your whole life to become a mom and then they're like, you're the gestating parent. It's like, oh, okay. Uh, so I love that. And Talarico, um, who's running in Texas, was doing the Biden basement tour and he was at of sight for a couple of weeks. Some say he had the flu, some say he was in a little mental rehab. So we'll see what comes out. But, um, I think staying away is a good thing because honestly— yes, I'm gonna say something shady. I was gonna say no shade, but it's shade. But he is creepy AF. I mean, he's creepy, you guys. I get like a little Spidey sensey when I see him speaking, and I'm just like, Texan Texas? Like, maybe Rhode Island, but Texas? I can't wrap my head around it. Owen, any more on Talarico?

I don't know. To me, it does seem kind of unbelievable that someone like Talarico would have any kind of chance in a place like Texas against Paxton. And I think I do remember when Beto O'Rourke was in a similar situation where It was made out by the media like O'Rourke had this great chance to win and then he got blown out. So I don't know what's going to happen. I hope it doesn't go to Talarico. And I think there is speculation that he might even need to drop out because of this. But I don't know if the mental health thing is true or not. And if it is true, there's even questions about HIPAA violations and things about the people who supposedly verified that that was the case because you're not supposed to do it. And there's been— 100%. Denials from the place and other things. But they may deny it just because they have to. And so I don't know what the truth is, and I'm kind of staying away from the story, at least anything that's directly saying it's this or it's that, because I don't know what the truth is. But I certainly do hope that he doesn't get elected. So maybe this is an October surprise, and maybe it was a low blow or not a low blow depending on the truth of matters. But, um, I certainly hope Paxton pulls it out.

Let the jokes about the low blow fly in the chat. Okay, uh, Marcella, anything on Ta'la Frico before we go?

My only comment was that Elon posted, um, I don't know if you guys saw this on X. He posted over the story and he posted the, uh, sexually transmitted diarrhea over the Tellerico being missing for 12 days. That was funny.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, and I saw you post.

No comment. I don't think he commented. Just—

Yeah, that part I don't mind posting about just because it's funny and it's just a joke sort of thing. But I do think I will point out that I did post about that sexually transmitted diarrhea story directly as well. And a lot of people in my comments were saying this is a gay disease, this is something they're not talking about, but it's another one of those, you know, things that, that are only really subject to certain people that engage in certain activities that might put you at risk of that. But I don't know if that's true either. I haven't looked that deeply into it, so I don't know.

Well, for those of you having breakfast right now, so sorry. Um, all right. So you guys, thank you so much for kicking off the week with us. We— yes, like monkeypox. We appreciate it. We want to thank Scott and Shelley for allowing the Scott Adams School to be here and to continue. And to everybody who shows up, you guys are so sweet. Hit the like and subscribe before you take off. We appreciate that a lot, you guys. We will be back tomorrow. The home team will be back tomorrow. We have a good week ahead, so let's say thank you to Scott and Shelley, and let's give a closing sip to our most beloved Scott Adams. To Scott!

To Scott!

And you guys, we had so much fun. I don't know if you guys have to go, Owen or Marcella, but I just want to say we had so much fun with Akira on Friday. We had a good time, a little dance party, and so I do want to play his new release. Release the video on our way out. So I'm gonna play that, and I'll watch the chat, and we'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, guys.

All right. Bye.

Bye.

Akira.

Here's one. I've been hearing other people talk about this more as well, because once you hear it is so useful, you'll end up saying the same thing. The usual frame, and we all fall into this, is that everybody's thinking about us. Do you ever think that? You think, oh my God, they're judging me, they're thinking about that mistake I made, they're watching me. Nobody's watching you. Nobody cares. Yeah, maybe if you're, I don't know, 7th grade or something, but if you're an adult Nobody's watching you. Nobody's watching you. Nobody's watching you. Nobody's watching you. Nope, nobody's watching you. People aren't really They're paying too much attention to you. So as soon as you imagine that other people care— probably not about whatever it is you're worrying about. I mean, they might care in various ways, but not about whatever you're fretting about. They're not thinking about you at all. Once you realize that people don't really think about you, it really makes everything easier. You won't get embarrassed. You know, even if you did get embarrassed, you'd be like, Okay, they will care about that for 10, 9, 8, 7, done. You might care about it for longer, but you don't need to because they don't care. Nobody's watching you. Nobody's watching you. Nobody's watching you. 'Cause nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. If they don't care, why would you care? Even after they've said it. So nobody cares. It's easier. Yeah, obviously your loved ones care about you. But your critics? They're not really thinking about you too much. It's not music, it's music plus.

So right, you guys. Total like soap opera '70s vibe. Obsessed. All right, guys. Oh, look at my little Scott Adams pictures pulsating. Okay, guys, love you so much. I'll see you tomorrow. And say your goodbyes so I don't hang up on you. See you tomorrow. Bye, guys. Bye, Halsey. That's right, Flynn Lizzy, never take another person's opinion of you over your own. Bye, Smar. Melanie, Goldie, Julie. Alien baby. Bye, Marge. Bye.