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What's The Point Of Losing?

Name: What's The Point Of Losing?
Uploaded: 2025-12-16T22:30:00+00:00
Duration: 1 min 3 s
Channel: Shanli Liu, CPA, CTP
Description: In this YouTube conversation, Speaker B recounts a text from Hormozy that challenges the notion of inevitable retirement and emphasizes a "champion…

16 Dec 2025 · 1 min

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In this YouTube conversation, Speaker B recounts a text from Hormozy that challenges the notion of inevitable retirement and emphasizes a "champion mentality"—the belief that one can think any way but must ultimately win. Speaker B questions what value, if any, loss might hold. Speaker A responds by likening losing to a micro‑death: it signals that a strategy failed and forces behavioral change, which can drive growth. However, Speaker A stresses that the primary aim should remain winning; loss is only valuable insofar as it prompts adjustments to achieve future victories. The dialogue weaves in references to Hormozy and CBOM, illustrating how peer perspectives shape the discussion of loss, learning, and the pursuit of success.

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Hormozy sent me a text going into the last prep and he had like suspicions that I was gonna retire that year and he said something. I can't even remember exactly what he said about me going and winning or something. And I threw like a little flick back at him because we think very differently and I like respect how like what he does is incredible. This is like the beautiful champion mentality. Like you can think however you want, you just have to win. And I was like, well, what if I lost? What about the lesson that I could learn in the loss? And he was, he posted on Instagram the next day being like, I got a text from someone last night and it made me mad.
CBOM and I are homies, and the point that I had was that losing only teaches one lesson, which is to avoid losing. It's kind of like death, but in a micro sense, right? Like, we do whatever we can to not die. You do whatever you can to not lose. But lose— losing doesn't kill you. It does show you that what you did did not work, and so it forces you to change your behavior. And so in that way, losing forces you to change, and then that's what creates growth. But the goal should not be to lose. The goal should be to win. And then if you don't win, change the behavior so that you win.