138. Spirit Daughter's Jill Wintersteen on Transforming Your Life through the Power of Astrology

I think that our birth chart is our blueprint. It can show you all of your issues, all of your problems, and how to solve them. Right? So it's your pathway to evolution.

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Hello. Hello, fellow dreamers, and welcome back to another episode of the Dream your Life podcast. This is Julia, and we are on episode two of season two. And I could not be more thrilled to share today's conversation with you. I mean, if you're interested in spirituality and personal growth and astrology, you've probably heard of her work. In fact, some refer to her brand as the gateway to spirituality in today's world. We are talking about Spirit Daughter, and today I am interviewing none other than Spirit Daughter's incredible founder, Jill Winterstein. First of all, if you don't already follow Spirit Daughter on Instagram after this episode, you're going to want to head over and do so immediately. But when I received news that Jill agreed to be on this podcast, I basically had to pinch myself a little bit because Spirit Daughter has really become a guiding light for, well, first of all, over a million people, maybe even more, but also for myself. And I think ultimately it's for people who want to understand and connect with the energy of the stars of the cosmos and harness it for personal transformation. I've been doing for years now new moon rituals, and, you know, I don't totally know what I'm doing, but I will read a little bit, and I know that there is something powerful. I'm also, of course, incredibly interested in my own birth chart. I've done readings before. I pick up little pieces here and there. I've talked about it on the podcast. But today we're going to hear Jill's journey, which really began with a deep passion for understanding the stars, for understanding astrology and the stars influence on our lives, which eventually led her to create Spirit Daughter. She has these beautifully crafted lunar workbooks, which she gifted me. Actually, on the day of the interview. She has her courses and then all of her inspiring content. And through all of that, Jill continues to empower all of us to align with this natural flow and rhythm of the universe, set meaningful intentions, and. And I think it's really about living more mindful, intentional lives. Her mission is so well aligned with My own. And the mission for Dream youm Life, which is to help people intentionally manifest lives they love. But it's really her deep understanding and expertise in astrology, which is why I so wanted to have her join me on this podcast. Because, again, I'm really like a beginner in the world of astrology. Always curious, but not really that educated. And so being able to ask her all of my burning questions was really such a gift. And now I get to share that gift right back to you. All of her incredible insights and knowledge, Jill's work is.

I would say it's really a blend.

Of astrology and mindfulness and practical advice.

Which really all three of those things.

Are kind of woven together and designed to help you navigate both your inner and outer worlds with greater clarity and purpose. So today, again, we'll dive into Jill's journey, personal journey, a little bit, and the creation of Spirit Daughter. But we'll also uncover how we all can tap into the cosmic energy to enhance our lives. You're gonna love this episode. If you do, please, please take a screenshot and share it to your stories. Tagging me dreamyour Life now and jillpiritdaughter on Instagram. We'd love to see who is listening. And your support means so much. And with that, I would love to have you join me.

And let's dive right into this magical.

Mystical conversation with Jill Winterstein.

Welcome to the podcast, Jill. I'm so happy to have you here.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah.

Okay, so we're going to start with gratitude, because I always love to start with gratitude.

I would love for you to share.

Three things that you are grateful for right now.

I'm grateful for my kids. Laughter. I'm grateful for the support of my husband in everything I do, and I'm grateful for my community.

Yeah. Wow.

Your community, Jill, can we just start with that? I mean, you just. You just let me know right before we recorded that in Sayulito, Mexico. Every single person in that town follows you.

That's what I've heard.

That's what you heard. I mean, I feel like you are the gateway to Spirit Daughter is the gateway to spirituality, astrology, personal development, and you. It's just such a wealth of resources and inspiration. And I have always been curious about the person who started this all, which is one of the reasons why I was like, I. To have you on the podcast would be such a dream. I'd love to start with just kind of like having you explain what Spirit Daughter is and who it's for. And, and the intention behind creating it. And then I would love to go into kind of the journey and your journey in bringing it from a vision into reality.

Yeah, we can talk about all that. I would say that spirit daughter, you know, it's for, it's kind of for everybody, but it's really for people who, you know, are interested in astrology, are interested in growth, are interested in meditation, want to change their life, want to be inspired. In a lot of ways, spirit daughter was for me as a teenager where I felt, you know, this was before social media, this was before the Internet and I felt very alone in a lot of ways because I was interested in crystals, I was interested in astrology, and I didn't really have a lot of people around me like that. You know, like the girls at my high school, they played field hockey and like I am terrible at sports.

And.

You know, I just didn't really have a lot of people who I felt like I could talk to about any of this.

Totally.

And it just felt very underground at that time. And so I think, you know, in a lot of ways spirit daughters were my 16 year old self who was interested in all of this. And maybe that's like, you know, my inner child, like the inner daughter, right, Coming out and you know, who's interested in all of this, doesn't know really know where to start. Start, you know, maybe feels like they have some support, but you know, because if you live in la, you probably have some support now. Like this stuff is everywhere, right? There's a crystal shop on every corner. Astrology is now very much mainstream. And so, you know, then it becomes we are an authority, right? I feel like the page is an authority in this sea of tons and tons of information. Like you can go on the Internet now, you can ask chatgpt things, you know, and then it becomes like, okay, well how do I know this is real? How do I know this is accurate? And some people live their lives by astrology and by this information. And so I think now we've evolved into this place of authority where it's people trust me, they trust my voice, they trust the content that comes through the workbooks, they trust the content that comes through the courses. And it's taken on a very, you know, life coaching through astrology type feel to it where it's like, okay, you can, you can come to me, I'll tell you when the new moon is, I'll tell you what that means, and then I'll tell you how to work with that energy in your life. To create the changes you desire, all while helping you feel supported and seen in this journey.

Beautiful. Beautiful. So I have so many questions about spirit daughter and about harnessing the energy of the moon and astrology. But before we even go there, let's start with your story, because you were saying that you had always felt connected and were interested in crystals and these things that maybe people weren't really talking about or practicing. Do tell me a little bit about that. Like, where.

Where did.

Where do you think that came from? Was it modeled to you? Did you read something? Did you watch something, like. Or was that all innate intuitive?

I. Yeah, in some ways. I feel like a lot of the things I've learned on my path of, you know, metaphysical exploration. Right. Of all of these different energies, in many ways, I feel like I'm remembering things almost like in a past life, I was connected to these energies. And, you know, not to get too deep into astrology right off the bat, but my south node is in Pisces, and many people with their south node in Pisces come into this world with an already expansive knowledge base of spirituality. It's just part of their karma. And so that goes for everybody, including myself. And so I feel like I was just naturally drawn to these things. And so I would stumble into a bookstore, and I'd see a crystal or I'd see a book on astrology, and it would just awaken something within me. And so I feel like I really went through a period of awakening to all of these things as a teenager because I was seeking answers, and there was no role model for this. My parents weren't into this. My parents were not hippies or anything like that. I did get into the Grateful Dead as a teenager. That was fun. And so in a lot of ways, that sort of dive into music really opened up me up to that. And so I think some. Some of those early days, you know, I was on a dead lot at 14 years old. You know, I. So my parents didn't know. They know now. Well, but I was gonna say, wow. I mean, I actually saw, you know, the Dead play in full, you know, with Jerry Garcia in 95. You know, I snuck out and, you know, it's a whole story. But. And so I think, you know, some of that was part of. Part of my early awakening. Because if you've ever been on a Deadlot, there's crystals, there's astrology, there's people, there's tarot, there's. It's everything, right?

So I've never been, but I've heard.

Yeah. Yeah. So in some ways, I think, you know, I was introduced to the Grateful dead at, like, 12, and I think if anything was, like, my gateway, that probably was it.

And.

And then, you know, I would see these things. I would stumble into crystal shops, I'd see him in deadlock. Ended up, you know, following and touring with Fish in college, you know, and.

So, I mean, touring with them.

Tour, like. Like, following them around. Following them.

Okay.

Okay. Yeah. No, I wasn't, like, an official roadie or anything, but, yeah. You know, so all of these.

Did you have, like, people at this point? Were. Did you have community around this? Like, were you, like. Did you have friends?

I think that's where I found my community. Okay. I did end up with, like, lots of friends in that community.

Okay.

And that's where found my community. I didn't find them necessarily in high school.

Yeah.

And even how I got introduced to the Grateful Dead was from, like, a friend's, like, older brother, you know?

Yeah.

You know, so it's just kind of interesting how I just read into these things, and I was like, oh, like, that makes sense. Like, that amethyst, like, makes sense to me, and astrology makes sense to me, and I'm a Leo, and that makes sense to me. What.

Like, what do you mean by. When you say, like, that amethyst makes sense to me. Like, can we just. Without going too, like, into crystals. But what does that even mean?

Like, I would see it, and people would be like, oh, you know. You know, I'd see it and, like, what is this? Oh, it's for dreams, you know, or it helps you access your dreams, your psychic vision, something amethyst does as a property. And I'd be like, oh, that makes sense. Like, yeah, of course. Like, I get that. Let me go sleep with that amethyst now.

It makes sense because, like, it's a remembrance, or you would feel something in the actual energy.

I think both. I think both. Like, it would feel aligned, and then also it would just be like, okay. It didn't seem like this crazy concept where I was like, what are you talking about?

Yeah.

Some people, when you tell them about crystal properties, they're like, what are you talking about? I used.

I'm still not, like, into crystals, but I have, like, when someone says, like, this obsidian is grounding, I'm like, yeah, of course it is. I can feel that in it.

Yeah.

So there is. And I don't know if that's the energy or the feeling or maybe both.

Maybe both. Maybe both. Yeah. Maybe Both.

Okay.

It is very grounding.

Yeah.

And you can feel that if you're tapped into any of these subtle energies on whatever system you're, you know, viewing it from. Right. Because all these systems, these different energetic systems or lenses, it's like you can feel that.

Yeah.

That energy.

And with astrology, how did that come into your life? Like, was it a book? Because, I mean, to me, astrology is so complex, and I've always known my sun sign, I'm a Libra, but I mean, then there's so many layers and so many things, and it feels like it's just never ending. All the different pieces and how you can look at things almost overwhelming to me in some ways. Like, it's so much.

Yeah.

But I would love to know, like, how it was introduced to you and what about that felt aligned and how you got into the work of really studying it again.

When I was a teenager and I just found a very simple book, the only astrology book you'll ever need. And it was.

Oh, that's what it's called.

It's called. Oh, oh, that's the name of it.

Oh.

And I think there was something about, you know, this was 95, 96. There was no Internet. And so, you know, it was simple. It was like, okay, let me sit down and read this book. Book and learn about these different pieces and handwrite the chart and plot it all out. There's no app to do it. And in some ways, I feel like, you know, all this information right now is amazing and great and solid our fingertips. But it is overwhelming because astrology is one of those things that it's a science and there's tons of layers and ways you can look at things. And there's aspects this and throw in the current astrology and relationship astrology and, like, it can be very intense. But I think the way I learned it was just by a very simple book where I'm just sitting there and reading it step by step. It's almost like a LEGO kit. Right. I have kids, I have boys, we play Legos. It's like there's something very simple about those LEGO instructions where it's like, page one, you do this, you build a.

Foundation on each build and build.

And I feel like that's how I learned astrology. Whereas you just built upon it in steps until it form this larger picture.

And was it like just Astrology Basics 101? Like, at a high level, the idea is our souls come in and depending on the exact time, there's a certain energy and that affects who we become and who we are.

Right. So at any given point, like right now, there's a certain energy. You know, the moon is in a certain sign, the sun's in a certain sign. Mercury, Venus, they're all. They all have their positions. Right. And so when a baby's born, if baby's born, like right in this moment, which is probably one being born somewhere in the world.

Yeah.

Their first breath, they take in the energy of the moment. And that themes their energy, their personality, their vibration. Now, I would go as far to say that that baby, somewhere in their energetic evolution, chose to be born that minute because that's the energy they needed for their evolution, their mission. Their mission. You know, I think that we are all on an energetic evolution connected to past lifetimes. And so we're all born at the exact moment that we need to be born to take in the energy that we need for our lives.

So, Jill, I. I was mentioning that my. My husband and I, like, he's spirit, he would. I think he would call himself spiritual, but not to the extent that I am. And he doesn't have the same interests and curiosities, but I did. We actually just went through a miscarriage about a few weeks ago, and I was immediately looking for the spiritual meaning behind it and something. And, you know, and I have three other kids, so they're like, I know there was gratitude for that and of course it was difficult and sad, but there was something. I just felt like the soul was. It wasn't the right time. I think there probably was maybe something with the embryo too. But I did a spiritual reading yesterday with this medium that I have grown to really trust, like, wholeheartedly. And it's so profound what comes through. But she said this particular soul wants to come, is going to be born in August because it, like, it needs to be born in May. And she's like, I've never actually had this happen. But she's. This soul is saying there's a certain mission and it has to. She also said it has to happen after the Lionsgate portal in August. And so this soul is waiting. And I thought that was so. I've just never heard of that. And I would love to just hear, like. Have you heard of, like, souls waiting for.

I believe that. I definitely believe that. And I'm sorry that that happened to you. It's always hard, even when we find the higher meaning. Yeah, it's still hard. We're still human. Right. You have to process the emotion. And that's one of the Things, you know, I really try and speak to people because I'm always speaking about the higher meaning, but I don't ever want people to think I'm dismissing.

No.

No emotion. Right. Because these things are hard and we all go through these trials. But yeah, that definitely resonates with me. It makes sense to me. That makes sense to me. I believe that as well. I think that certain souls come into this world. And I also think that, you know, in, you know, thinking about souls coming into our bodies and then leaving, it's like that energy just wanted to be connected to your energy for that period of time. During this period, whatever was happening while you were carrying that energy.

Oh, wow.

Wanted to be connected to your energy. And sometimes that's all energy needs. Right. Is that one month, two month connection. And then. And that's kind of how I've grown to really view the higher meaning of miscarriages.

Yeah.

This does come up with the community a lot. And like I said not to dismiss the pain and everything that goes along with that because I think that all needs to be honored. But understanding it from that higher spiritual perspective of we don't have the full picture of how energy souls really work. We don't. Yeah, we don't have that understanding. We're relatively young in our understanding of all of that as. As humans. Right. And so how I see that is like this energy came connected with you, with your energy during this time, and then got what it needed, in some ways fulfilled its mission for now.

Yeah.

And I went on to do whatever else that energy needs to do in this moment.

Yeah.

And I think there's also a piece of this. And I feel like I've come like there were like two, like really weeks of just feeling it and like the heaviness of it all. But I. I also think that it was part of my journey, like to experience that kind of loss. I'd never experienced miscarriage or any kind of loss like that that felt so deep. And I think one of the reasons is like my children bring me so much joy. And pregnancy is such a sweet moment, like sweet time for me. And to experience the loss, it's like the whole polarity thing too of like, wow. The like experiencing the range of these emotions is I think also what we all come here for.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. And there might be something in your journey that you need to learn that maybe to share with other people, maybe teach others, or maybe just for your own evolution, you need to experience that loss. And that's the thing about our journey as Spiritual beings, as energetic beings, they come with highs and lows. And so really finding the higher meaning, the opportunities in everything that comes our way is so, so important for our growth.

Yeah.

Because we don't always feel like we get to choose consciously our journey. You know, in some ways, we've already chosen it. I think we do have free will. But, you know, perhaps our higher self or some other part of us that's connected to the bigger picture, you know, has chosen a path for us because we need to learn something in this lifetime. And, you know, we just have to find the meaning and perseverance through that.

Yeah.

So this kind of leads me to wanting to ask you about manifestation, which in some ways feels like free will.

Right.

Like, you, you're creating the vision and you are doing the visualizing and, and aligning your energy and releasing. But then there's the other part.

Well.

There is something that feels predestined about the journey that you're supposed to take. I would love to hear your thoughts on this because you talk about manifestation a lot.

Yeah, yeah, I talk about manifestation a lot. That we do have free will and we do have the power to create our lives, but we are, you know, there's like kind of like a clause there, Right. So if you're sitting and you're meditating in a vision comes to you of what you want to manifest in your life, say, on a new moon. I teach people how to set intentions and listen to their intuition on a new moon so they can manifest that vision. And so say a vision comes to you, that vision came from somewhere. It came from your higher self. It came from that part of you that is connected to the infinite universe. Right. It came from the part of you that already knows your life path and has already chosen it. Right. And so if you have a vision that you want to manifest, it came to you for a reason.

Yeah.

Because it's aligned with you already. We're not going to just think of things that aren't aligned with, with us.

But what about all the people who are like, well, my vision is just to become a multimillionaire and, like, be on yachts all the time.

I think there's a distinction between vision and fantasy.

Yeah.

And I talk about. I talk about this. I talk a lot about this. When Neptune stations retrograde every year, which is, you know, at end of June this year, it changes slightly from year to year here. But Neptune is the ruler of visions and dreams. And I really think Neptune retrograde is an opportunity for us to look at okay. Are my visions, fantasies that I just created to distract me from my true path and my true purpose? Because I either, you know, don't know them. I'm scared. I have fears. There's a whole bunch of reasons why we wanted to distract ourselves from our real path. Maybe it's challenging, maybe it's hard. Maybe we have to do a bunch of work on ourselves. Maybe we have to go through trials and tribulations that will help us grow. There's many, many reasons why we would want to avoid our true path. And so just sitting around saying, I just want to become a multimillionaire and hang out on yachts, that feels more of, like a distraction from your real purpose or real mission. Now, some people's path in life is to hang out on yachts.

Yes. Is it really?

I mean, there's people who do it and do it well, you know, and that's part of their life path. It's not going to be part of everybody's life path, though. You know, that's the thing. And it's like, some people, like, that's part of it, but they're also. It's sort of like they've done something else. You know, you look at the people who really are doing that, like.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't know. We'd have to ask them. But you take somebody like Jeff Bezos, like, was it his vision to hang out on a yacht? No, his vision was to create Amazon.

Right, Right.

And, like, created that and, you know, started it in his garage. And there's a whole story. Totally focused and focused and focused. And the yacht kind of, like, was the icing on the cake. Yeah.

Leonardo DiCaprio, too. Like, he's. He's earned the yacht through his act.

Yeah.

And it's not even.

No. Not earning it, but.

Yeah, but, like, I mean, it's like icing.

Yeah, it's.

Yeah.

They didn't, like, set out to purposely manifest that exactly.

Okay.

You know. Yeah. They manifested something else, and then that just happens to be part of the life path.

Yeah.

Okay. And so tying this back in with astrology, do you see with certain. And I guess it's like more than just the sun, but like, the combination. I mean, the energy of when you're born. Are those similar? Like, is. I'm Libra Sun, Moon in Pisces, Capricorn Rising. Do we all kind of have the same.

Something?

Mission, purpose, personality, drive? Like what? Like, how do we.

People who have that same combination.

Yeah.

Or is it just so much more complex? Than that.

It's a little bit more complex with that. There would be some similarities. Obviously you're gonna have some similarities with other Libra suns and other Capricorn risings. You'll be able to talk about certain things. But there's so many other planets that come in to play. Like Mars, for instance. Your Mars placement is going to take a large role in your purpose and your mission and what fuels you, right? What you're passionate about. There's going to be your Saturn placement, which is your commitments. And so what do you feel committed to in this world? And so there's many layers. And that's why looking at a birth chart, it's a whole picture. And so you're looking at all these different pieces and how they come together. And so it's not just the moon, sun and rising, it's everything else. Where your north node is, where your south node is, there's a lot of other factors. And then you also look like, okay, are there certain aspects forming? So does your Mars form a square to your sun? Which can be a challenging aspect. And so there's all kinds of different layers that would be like step two, probably step three. Three, like step one is know your son, your moon, and your rising. Step two is know where the rest of your placements are. Step three is like, okay, are there some aspects here that I should be aware of?

And, and why do we do this? Like, I also actually, before answering that, do you think our souls came here with the intention to figure out this puzzle? Like, are we. Is that part of the mission to understand our astrology?

I think so. I think that our birth chart is our blueprint, right? So this is. It can show you all of your issues, all of your problems and how to solve them. Right? So it's your pathway to evolution.

It shows you how to solve them.

It shows you how to solve them. Yeah, it shows you how to solve them. So you can look at something. You can look at, like, say, for instance, your Mars squares your sun. It's like, okay, well, there's gonna be some conflict there that, that's gonna create an issue in your life around that Mars passion, sun identity. There's going to be some issues there. And it's like, okay, how do I solve that? And it's like, okay, let's look at where your Venus is. Maybe your Venus has the answer, right? So we find your Venus is somewhere that is in a beneficial aspect to your Mars, right? It's like, oh, look, Venus is trining your Mars. I'm just Sort of making this up as I go along. It's like, okay, maybe I can lean into my Venus, my heart, heart, my love of beauty, what I find beautiful in the world to help with this hard aspect of Mars and the sun. How could I harness my love to maybe meld together my passions and my identity and have them align?

So when you first read the astrology book, was it that just feeling like this feels aligned, like how do we know this is true? I guess you can't, you can't prove anything.

You can't prove anything. Well you can, but I mean, yeah.

You can prove something.

But even that's debatable. I mean I know. Is it a wave is a particle?

Who knows, right?

Is it?

Because like has it ever. Have you ever met someone where you're like, that does not resonate or their chart. Yeah, they're chart or does it all really just feel like wow, this is accurate.

It feels accurate. It definitely feels accurate to me. I will say that I always take somebody's chart with like a grain of salt because I do believe in the power of the mind and self fulfilling prophecies. And so that's why I don't like to go too deep with parents into their kids birth charts because I don't want them to then overlay that onto the child.

Oh yeah.

And sort of, you know, start doing things like oh, my son's a Leo and you know, all of that. I will say though, when I look at my own children I'm like, I see their chart coming through. But you know, I do believe we have the power of the mind and it's like, okay, well if I know that Mars is making a hard aspect to my son, then I'm just going to kind of create that in my life. You know, these, these obstacles and these barriers and these challenges. Right. And so I think that in a lot of ways it resonates and we can look at the chart for information but we also just want to be mindful that we're not taking the chart and then manifesting it. Right, right. Creating it.

Yeah.

Does your chart help you manifest? Like no. Like do certain signs manifest differently? Have you seen anything?

Like I don't know if they manifest differently. I think it really, you have to look at the current astrology. So what's happening in the current astrology and how your chart is interacting with the current astrology. So there'll be times throughout the year that is going to be more beneficial for you to manifest abundance or for you to manifest a speaking career or Speaking engagements or something like that. You look at your chart in the context of like, okay, Jupiter, for instance, just moved into Gemini. Where's Gemini in my personal chart? What house is that in? So what house is Jupiter moving through in my chart? So say Gemini is. We'll just say, we'll align with it. You're ruling your third house. Right. And that's the house that naturally rules. But say in your chart, which is not, because that's not your rising, but we'll just say in your chart, Gemini rules your third house. Jupiter's moving through your third house. That's communication. While Jupiter's in Gemini, that's going to be a very beneficial period for you to communicate, for you to take speaking engagements, for you to manifest speaking events, things of that nature.

Oh, wow.

Okay. This is a perfect segue into. Because today is a new moon, right? It's a new moon in Gemini.

Correct.

Can we talk about how lunar cycles and the moon, or how we can harness the power and energy of the moon? I guess from the manifestation standpoint, but also just for, like, feeling our best and creating a life that feels aligned and fulfilling. And so I guess that is manifestation too, but.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the new moon is the time when you set your intention. So we like to look at the lunar cycle as a blueprint. Right? That's how I see it, a blueprint. And you can take it in the simplest form where you have the new moon, the first quarter, the full moon, the last quarter, and then new moon again. Right. So four weeks. And so on the new moon, we set intentions. That's when the moon and the sun meet in the sky. So on the new moon in Gemini, they're both at the exact degree. It happened at 5:39am this morning.

Were you up?

I was up. I'm an early riser, though. I try get up before my kids so I can, like, have your own time. Meditate, like.

Yeah.

Not get thrown off, not start the morning completely dysregulated by screaming toddlers. But Anyway, yes. So 5:39am sun and moon meet at the same degree in Gemini. That creates a spark of energy. And so that's what makes it very beneficial to set your intentions because you have that spark of newness, right. Of new energy. It also allows you to just the darkness, I think the darkness of the moon. The new moon cycle allows you to go in and listen to yourself a little bit more. But this is. This is the new beginning, right? This is the start of the lunar cycle. And so you set intentions what do you want to do for the next four weeks? And you know, like we already said you can't prove anything. Right?

Right.

Like, we could probably get into, like, theories of gravity and light waves and energy and all that, and probably come up with some working, working theory based on physics on, like, why this actually affects our energetic body.

Yeah.

But it would just be a theory. And look, I've thought about a lot. I have a vast background in research, and so I've, like, been like, can I. Could we really prove this? But even if you. Even if we can't prove it, even if we're just completely making it up. Right. It's still a time every month for you to check in with yourself and say, is this what I want to do? Is are these the intentions I want to live by? Are these the visions I want to create? What visions are coming to me? Do I want to keep nurturing them? Do I want to keep working on them? So, like, right away, you just, you have this point every month on the new moon. Like, that's when you set your intentions.

Yeah.

And so for that alone, I love it because it's just like this blueprint, this natural check in, how am I feeling? Accountability. And so whether you believe in the new moon energy or not, this is the time to do it.

It's a good practice.

Yeah, it's a good practice.

So this is the. The journal for the new. For the sun season and the new moon. And I would love to hear, because you have a whole. I mean, can you share a little bit about what you've created? Because it's evolved and how people can use your workbooks and in their own practices.

Yeah. So that workbook that covers since the sun sign, the new moon is always in the same zodiac sign as the sun season. Right. So sun is in Gemini, new moon is in Gemini. And then our full moon would be in Sagittarius. And so we have a separate workbook for that, but that people can use throughout Gemini season. And then there's half of it is dedicated to the new moon. And it actually started as just a new moon workbook. Back in the day, I was holding new moon circles right here in Santa Monica. Oh, really? That's where I started. And people loved them. And we started seeing changes in people, and they'd come back. The same people would come back every month. They'd be like, oh, my gosh, this happened. I manifested this. I left my job. I realized I had to do this. I realized I was in a toxic relationship, gave me the Courage to do this. And it became about, in part, that accountability, that monthly check, check in. Like, what am I working on? It's different than goal setting, right. When you set intentions, like you're working on, like, your lifestyle, how you want.

To feel, visions you want to create.

And a lot of times when I'm instructing people to set intentions, it's not about the details, it's about the feeling. So, like, going back to the yacht, the people who want to manifest, like, being on a yacht, well, I would say to them, well, what is the feeling?

Yeah.

Like, why don't you manifest the feeling? If you're on this yacht in the middle of the Caribbean or whatever, what is the feeling? Feeling like, focus on that. What's most important.

Right.

And so in any event, I created these workbooks, and they started out as just Newman workbooks, and that's all we had. And it basically was like a new moon circle in a workbook for anybody to use anybody in the world.

And for people to do their own circles. Right.

For people to do their own circles and rituals. Yeah. With themselves, with others themselves. Just feel like they had a guide. And so there's meditation in there. There's everything I did in person. Right. So I would talk, I would explain the energy that's in there. There's meditation, there's yoga. We would do all of that in these circles. There's how to set up the circle, so what crystals to use, what scents to use. Every sign has scents, colors, shapes, fabrics, all of that. How to use the different elements in your circle. So that's all in the workbook. And I just took it from what we were doing, you know, what I was doing with different groups of people on each new moon. And then there's journaling, prompts and intention setting guidance, like how to set intentions with this particular new moon. So we're working with Gemini, there's certain themes. Right. With cancer or Leo, there's certain themes that will help you. And so you can choose to say, okay, the next new moon is in Leo. I'm going to write intentions that are themed by Leo leadership. How to open my heart, find my heart's joy. How to show up authentically. What visions can I create around those themes? And so there's guidance month to month by the signs. So it really is, you know, kind of step by step.

I love.

Like, this is your complete package.

Yeah.

And you can choose the right intentions on whatever you want. I mean, you can choose to write intentions any day of the month on whatever you want. This is just like the guidance from the astrology. And a lot of ways I'm like, you know, if you want that extra support of the astrology, this is. This is how you get it. Right.

Yeah.

Feel aligned.

And even if there's, like, a little bit of a placebo, like, you believe that the energy is there. I mean, that is what is going to also propel and magnetize.

Yes. The placebo effects, like, my favorite thing in the world. I mean, when I was researcher, I was. When I first learned about it, I was like, I just want to study this.

This is all I want to study.

It's.

So I got a grant for that.

It's fascinating, and. Yeah, exactly. And so it's like, maybe we're just, like, making this all up, but, like, if you believe it, it's real.

Exactly.

Right. So if you sit down and you write your intentions on the new moon, and you're like, I wrote them on the new moon with Gemini. They're supercharged. They've got the boost of the cosmos. Yes, that might be correct. Yes. You may make it correct.

Yeah.

Either way, it works.

Yeah, Right.

Either way, it works. Because, like I said, I do believe in the power of the mind. Like, I'm trained in neuroscience. Like, the mind is just absolutely fascinating, and what we can do with it, we don't even know yet.

Oh, I know.

I know.

Okay, can we go through really quickly? So we're in Gemini right now. And this is about inspiration, right, or what?

Yeah, Gemini. I find that Gemini. The air signs, especially Gemini, are very inspirational because they bring newness. Right. Air comes in, and.

Yeah.

It's like, I feel that energy.

Yeah.

It's like when you wake up and you, like, just feel the air coming in.

Yeah.

To your room, it's like new energy. And so it is very inspirational. Gemini also really widens our view and helps us expand our consciousness and look at things in a different way. And so, like, how can we look at. Like, we were talking about higher meanings. Like, how can we look at a challenge or something else? A hardship, a heartbreak, grief in our life? How can we look at it differently? Not that we're changing it or taking away the emotion from it, but how can we look at it as an opportunity, as part of our life path, as a portal for growth? And so Gemini really helps you do that, because Gemini, this is the twins. The twins communicate. What are they communicating about? Their perceptions, their beliefs, how they see the world. Right. We all see the world a little differently. And so when we talk to each Other about it, we figure out the bigger picture, the puzzle of life.

Oh, I love this. And then this ties into the course that you have for. You have a course for every season, right? And this one is about reframing.

Is about reframing? Yeah, it's about reframing. And so the reframing course and the courses, they are relatively new. So the workbooks have been around since 2017. And the courses. I just started launching them. We just launched all of them, really, in the last year, the full, like, all 12. And so the courses really pick up where the new moon leaves you. And so you set intentions on the new moon. And that was some of the questions I was getting from the community. They'd be like, what do I do now?

Yeah.

And it's like, for a while, I was like, well, you just hold the vision, which. Yes, that's part of it. But now I'm like, well, you do the course. And so the course is, in a lot of ways, this is the work, right? So this is the work. This is finding out where you need to take action, where you don't need to take action. The reframing course, for instance, for Gemini, it's like, okay, I know I need to change my perceptions in order to manifest these intentions. How do I do that? Right? So this is how you actually manifest your intentions. And some of that might be, I need to wait or I need to learn to breathe more. You know, the reframe course, a lot of it is, like, about language, the role of language in your life. How do you talk to yourself? How do you ask people to talk to you? You know, I just had, like, an interesting conversation with my husband this morning, you know, about something, and I was like, hey, look, I. I can hear what you're saying, but I really don't. I. I'm not responding to your tone, like, the way you're saying it. I'm not able to receive the information. Could you. Could you say it like this instead and, like, mirrored it back to him? And it was like, the same thing, but it was like, you know, this. You have kids, right? Yeah. All about delivery, right?

Yeah.

And so, you know, Gemini is very much about that, and we do that with ourselves. It's like we have these running inner mantras and affirmations. Some of them are, like, from our parents and our grand grandparents, and, like, they just are on automatic replay. They're like a broken record. Right? And, you know, we can do all this work. We can set our intentions. We can have these visions. We can be Doing other work. And then we've got this, like, subconscious, unconscious mantra running in the background is like, you can't do that, or, you know, whatever. And it's like, so taking that, rewriting that, understanding that, and then really also embodying a growth mindset and understanding what that means.

Means. Yeah.

So a lot of the work I do and I think from astrology to the courses is like, what does that mean? Yeah, you know, like, we talk about spiritual awakening. What does that mean? Like, I remember somebody texting me and being like, I'm having a spiritual awakening. I need your help. And I'm like, what, What. What does she mean, spiritual awakening? You know, I'm like, I know what that means to me.

Yeah.

But a lot of, like, the work I do with the spirit daughters just like, defining these terms and. And in a way, you know, making them understandable, breaking them down, down to their basic parts so that anybody feels like they're approachable. It's a very approachable method, gateway, as you said, to astrology, spirituality, all these things. And so the reframing course, like, okay, well, what is a. What's a fixed mindset? What's a growth mindset? How do I know if I'm in one or the other? You know, and so we talk about all of that.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Okay, so. So then we move. So we're in Gemini season. When we move next is cancer. Cancer. Maybe we can just, like, touch on what the theme is and then what you. What the course would be or what someone would work on.

Cancer is all about self care, intuition, receiving information, you know, really putting yourself first a lot of times. So every energy has a low side, a high side. And so low side of cancer would be, you know, putting somebody else before you, people pleasing, putting somebody else's needs. It's the sign of the mother. Right. And so this is like what mothers do a lot of the time, you know, could be also over mothering the people in your life. You know, sometimes as a mother, you've got to step back and let them figure it out. You know, I've learned that with my two boys. They're like, you know, my husband. I'm an only child, and my husband comes from. He's one of four. And so they're just getting into that where they're like, fighting over a child toy or something. And, like, I want to go run in. He's like, just let them figure it out.

Yeah.

You know, they've got to learn to figure this out, you know, and so, you know, that's very like Cancerian, where it's like, okay, I want to mother, but maybe I need to step back. So, like understanding that and really coming from your intuition. And so Cancer Season is about listening to your intuition, feeling your intuition. That's the course that we have in Cancer Season in is learning, like the different types of intuition. There's all these different types of intuition. How do they come to you? Like understanding them through the chakra system, like how the each of them express themselves. Like there's visionary intuition, there's gut instinct, which is most closely linked to that. Mother. Intuition. Right. There's creative intuitions, there's different types. There's, you know, clairvoyance.

Right.

There's just tons of. Yeah. And so the healing intuition course goes into all that and then it goes into like one of my number one questions which I had a webinar on, which is, you know, how do I know the difference between my intuition and my anxiety? And that is like so key because it's like I'm worried about something. Is this my intuition telling me to get involved or is it my anxiety? Right. And so Cancer Season's about all that. And then it's also about just self care, taking care of you. You know, lots of space for baths and journaling and meditation so that you can feel grounded and solid within yourself, process your emotions. Cancer Season is all about processing your emotions and knowing that they in a lot of ways are the gateway to your intuition. And so we feel our intuition. So if we're shut down from our emotions and we're closed off and we don't want to, we want to suppress them or we only want to feel the good ones. You can't do that. You can't choose. Right?

Yeah.

What you feel, you're like. If you're a feeling person, you feel the good and the bad and you have to open yourself up to your emotions and feeling them to access your intuition, your intuition's felt. And so I talk all about that in the Cancer workbook and the New Moon. And then we again, for the people want to deep dive into this. We have the feeling intuition course, which we actually turned into a whole self care challenge this past. We put in yoga and all kinds of fun things for people to really give themselves the self care they deserved when they needed it.

I love something you put on your website. I think it was on your website or it might have been a post somewhere. But just like, you know, pro con list is great for like where you're gonna go to dinner, but not for your big life decisions. Like, that's where you really need to, like, be able to. To listen to your intuition. But to do that, you have to be, like, connected emotionally.

Yeah. And you have to start small. And I talk about that in the course. The course has a whole, like, guidebook to how to trust your intuition. And it starts with, like, small things, like, what should I wear today?

Yeah.

Or what should I eat today?

Yeah.

You know, like things that don't have major consequences. Like, you don't want to start using your intuition on, like, what city should I live in?

Right, right.

Should I marry this guy or not?

Yeah, exactly. Your intuition can definitely tell you. But for you to really trust it, you almost need to, like, do these little things and then keep a journal, like an evidence, you know, I'm like, this is your evidence that you can trust your intuition. This is. You follow it.

I love that.

And this is what happened.

Yeah.

And so that's part of also the course. But again, it's like, you know, you write your intentions on the new moon in cancer. You know, maybe they're around intuition, maybe they're around self care. And it's like, okay, well, how do I do that work?

Oh, my gosh, I love this so much. Okay, I don't. Are we gonna have time to go through all of them? Because I think this is so fascinating.

Can I get to Leo and maybe Virgo?

Can I just hear. Can I hear Libras?

Well, that's relationships.

It's relationships.

Okay, so Libra is all about relationships.

Yeah.

But, you know, there's a lot to that. So it starts with the relationship with yourself. And so in Libra, I talk a lot about what brings you inner peace and what are the tools that help you. And so the thing about Libra is, you know, we always think about Libra as the sign of balance and equanimity and like, you know, oh, Libra suns. This is some of the misconceptions, Right. Oh, they must be so calm. Oh, you know, and that's not really the energy. The energy. The life mission of a Libra sun is to learn how to regulate, how to make themselves calm amongst chaos. Right. So it's not about having this, like, perfectly balanced life and very calm life. It's about, okay, life is going to throw you curveballs. Maybe they might throw you more. Right. Because you're a Libra. And can you regulate yourself? How fast can you do that? How can you grab your toolkit of meditation and breath work and bring yourself back to center? Bring Yourself back to balance. Right. That is your journey as a Libra, son, is to learn that it's not just to be balanced all the time.

Yeah.

It's to go, okay, I live in chaos, right? The world is chaos. How can I regulate myself amongst this chaos? How can I notice I'm about to be thrown off balance and cut it off of the pass.

Yeah.

Right. So that's the journey. That's where, like, the evolution of your chart and your sun signs starts to show up.

Oh, wow.

And then once you're there. Right. So then Libra goes in deeper because it is about. There's a. There's a relationship aspect to it. So Libra is the sign of relationships, the sign of union. So it starts with the relationship with yourself. Once you can find that inner peace within, then you can truly connect with somebody else. Just like we were saying in Cancer season, you can truly connect with, you know, your intuition. When you're at peace within yourself, you can truly connect and empathize. Right. With another. You can. You can. You can start to develop emotional intelligence, like real emotional intelligence.

This is like. It just resonates. So it's like everything you said, it just like it hits.

Right.

Like it just feels right. When. So when you are. If someone is born in a certain season, is there any, like, more power when you're doing a new moon and you're. I'm a Libra and I'm doing it in Libra season.

Yeah. I think that there. It's not that there's more power, it's just that depending. I actually like to look at people's moon sign. So if your moon. Where'd you say your moon? Pisces. Right. So your moon's in Pisces, will have a lunar eclipse in Pisces at the end of September. That's going to be very powerful for you. So I like to look at, like, moon, moon, sun to sun. Right. Venus to Venus for looking at that placement. So that's gonna be very powerful for you because that's hitting your chart, your house, that's activating your personal moon sign. And so you might feel more emotional, you might feel that you're more intuitive. Right. Especially with a Pisces moon. Pisces moons tend to be very intuitive. You may feel that there's, like, more opportunity for you to do the work that is available on a Pisces moon, which is really stepping back and being the observer of your emotions, learning how to create space between what happens in your reaction. Right. This very Pisces energy Understanding your spirituality is very Pisces energy, so that all may feel more available to you to work with when the full moon or new moon is aligned with your. Your personal moon sign. Okay, wow.

How do you do all of this? Like, I'm like, I. Because you have, like, there's so much content that you're creating. There's. There's your courses, there's your workbooks. There's all the content on Spirit Daughter. There's these webinars and lives and. And you have two young boys. And I guess I'm just like, how do you do all of it? Or, I mean, it's been a gradual, and I guess this is. We didn't really even finish your journey, but, like, moving into this. Was this all part of the vision or has it. Has the vision continued to evolve?

The visions continue to evolve. The courses were definitely, like, an evolution of the vision where I just saw the need for them, and I was like, oh, let's do this. And they were almost an app, and I was like, oh, let's do courses and see what happens. And, you know, I've worked with different coaches and. And business coaches, and I've. I've learned to run the business. Like, I think running the business side of Spirit Daughter has been my learning curve. So all of this, I don't want to say it comes easy to me, but, like, I love to write. I could sit down and, like, write all day long, you know, just put me in a cave or by the beach or something, and I'll just write. I love to write. All of this is knowledge I feel I have. It's within me. It's chip a tongue. And so I love writing. I love creating the captions, the quotes, like, all of that. I don't love writing emails. I. I do.

You do all the captions on Spirit?

I do almost all the captions on Spirit Daughter. Yeah. But it just, like, comes out, and that's the thing. Like, I wonder why are you channeling it?

Or, like, I think a lot of.

It, it's like, it's. It's like a combination, you know?

Yeah.

Like I said, it's just also.

And it's all your research background, too. I'm sure everything you did, like, the psychology all comes in.

It all comes into it. Exactly. So it all just feels, like, very integrated within me. And so, like, I write the workbooks, and, like, I'm writing the workbooks, and it's just all. It's all within me. So if I, you know, I write the caption On Instagram. It's like, I. I've already written the workbook. Like. Yeah, I know that. And I've written these workbooks, so. But, you know, like, the email. I don't love writing emails, you know, either. Well, sometimes I also don't think I'm great at them.

Like, I think for me, it's like I. I have a little bit of a block. I. I love when I sit down and actually, like, do it and then I. It flows out.

Yeah.

But for some reason, it always feels like it's gonna take a long time. Or like.

Yeah, yeah. Or like, the stuff where it's like, you know, we're a business, so some stuff has to have, like, a marketing angle.

Yeah.

It's not, like, great at that. I'm not like, a conversion copywriter.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, you know, but then the other pieces of the business, like, managing people, like, understanding our systems and, like, it's. It's crazy. The learning curve I've had to go through, which is part of my evolution, where it's like, okay, like, I had to learn. Like, everybody's like, I need an sop or you need sops for this. Like, what is an sop? You know, like, and now we have, like, sops and, like, everything is documented and we have, like, loom training videos for everybody. And it's. Your team. Have a great team. I think we're seven right now. Oh, wow. And then we have, like, some agency support on. On different angles, you know, And I have, like, a fractional CMO and things like that. And so. But, like, learning how to. What I. What I needed.

Yeah.

For support and understanding, like, how to train people, how to onboard people, putting systems in place so that everybody could, like, do their job. Cause there's, like, a ton of backend stuff that happens with Spirit Daughter that, you know, I don't think it's not fun to talk about. I mean, if we were.

I mean, I.

Business podcast, probably.

Yeah, No, I think it's interesting because there are. So sometimes you think, oh, this is, like, easy to put together, but with every. Every time you launch something, you have to create new landing pages. You have to change the website. You have to, like.

Exactly.

You have to make sure everything works seamlessly and then tie.

I mean, testing things. And then we have, like, our subscriptions. Like, it's.

Oh, yeah.

I'll tell you one thing. It's very, very hard to have a subscription product based upon the moon. Oh, my gosh. And, like, the subscription people look at me like I'm Crazy. Like, when we were first figuring out the system years ago, I'd, like, be on the call with these subscription platforms and be like, no, I needed to go through every 29 days. And they're like, wait, what?

Yeah.

And so it's like, figuring all of that out, all those pieces out. And if people, say, subscribe to the Gemini workbook today, they want the cancer workbook in a couple days. And so getting the systems, the bigger systems to meld to the moon to the lunar cycle, that in itself is a whole process.

Oh, my gosh.

So just figuring all those pieces out have been my learning curve. But the more I figure out and hand over.

Yeah.

You know, I can have more time to myself to write and create, because that's what I really like to do. And, like, that's the stuff I can't outsource. Right. Totally not gonna, like, outsource, like, writing a course or something.

Yeah.

Yeah. And. But I will outsource. Like, what is the marketing plan for the course?

Yeah.

You know, and, like, what is the landing page and all of that.

You know, creating the SOPs. I hope you're outsourcing that.

I did not want to create sop. I'll create a video, and then I'll hand it over to somebody. Like, can you make this into an sop? You know, but even understanding that process alone, you know, it's the systems of a business are, again, that foundations those foundational pieces.

Yeah.

And how do we do them?

So when you. When you had the vision for Spirit Daughter initially, what did that look like?

I think I just wanted to create something that gave me more freedom. I wanted to be able to work on my own terms, and I wanted something that I could scale getting back to business. Like, I wanted it to be a scalable business.

Yeah.

That is not tied to my time.

Yeah.

So I did create it as a business.

Yeah.

So maybe I know more about business than I thought, but, you know, at the time, I was, like, running around LA teaching yoga.

When was this?

This was 2016. 2016. And so, you know, LA. It's, like, so hard, and. And I was limited. I had a great private practice, and I was doing New moon circles, but I was, like, limited by my. By my actual time. I had to be physically present. And so I wanted to create something where it wasn't tied to me having to show up somewhere in the valley in traffic.

Right.

It's very practical.

Yeah.

And the, you know, the workbooks really just came as an intuitive hit of, like, this is what I need. To put out into the world. And, like, this is it. And so, you know, I followed. I followed that intuitive hit, and I wanted to create an Instagram that was inspirational.

Yeah.

And that inspired people to, like, feel their intuition, to change their life. Like, I'm here to inspire people and help them change their lives. Like, I know that about myself. And that includes healing. That includes feeling their intuition, feeling their power, keep going in the face of adversity. Like, all of those things, like that mission. And that's the thing. It's like, I know my purpose, and it's. The execution of it has been different throughout my life.

Yeah.

And so Spirit Daughter is an execution of that purpose. And, you know, the New Moon workbooks, I was like, this is it. Let's print them, ship them. They're scalable. Let's see what happens.

And so, like, has your following just kind of grown organically over time or.

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's. Up until right now, it's all organic. We just decided to, like, launch an ad campaign for. For the purpose of email list growth, which is, like, a very. Not for the purpose of growing the following. It's a very different strategy. But up until, like, today.

Oh, wow.

Literally, it has been 100% organic.

Wow.

And has it just. Has anything like sp. Like, has it been kind of just, like, a slow growth over these. I mean, not slow, but the workbooks.

Spiked it because they went viral in the beginning and they were shared everywhere. People, like, love them. People still love them. People share them all the time. And that's driven the growth. And influencers picked them up and started sharing them, and celebrities picked them up and started sharing them. And so it's just kind of like what you want with a product. Like, everything worked out the way it should. And I didn't. Like, that was not my vision. Like, I never had the vision of, like, I'm gonna make sure so and so gets my workbook, and sure, it's on their page, you know, like, that was just the evolution. Like, I just wanted to create a successful scalable product that inspired people.

Yeah.

Like, I wanted that feeling.

Yeah.

So that's what happened.

Did you ever imagine it would get to this size and impact?

I don't. I don't think it's actually like, really sunk in. Like, I'm still kind of, like, shocked sometimes when I'm like, I have 2 million followers, you know, or, like, people know me everywhere, especially in la, it's like, probably half of LA follows me, you know, it's like, crazy. It's not like Solulito or everybody, but, like, LA is pretty big.

But, yeah.

You know, I go places, especially, like, I live in Venice, and it's like, people know who I am.

Have you.

Has anyone, like, asked you for your autograph? Kind of.

No one's ever asked me for my autograph, but I guess we're over that stage.

We want selfies and, like.

Yeah, Well, I think, you know, I do think it's kind of nice living in la, which is, like, a celebrity. People, like, really respect that sort of, like, element of privacy and everything. So I think. I think that's, like, helpful.

Yeah.

But, like, I'll be great white, and people come up to me and be like, I'm in your course. Like, it's changing my life. And I love that. Like, I love it when people do that, you know, so. But yeah, it's always, like, respectful. And I think that is, like, a function of, like, where we live.

Yeah.

You know, celebrity all the time.

Yeah.

The farmer's market. And I see a celebrity.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So going. And like, tying this all together with manifestation and for everyone who's listening and is like, oh, my God, eating all this up and, you know, wanting to now, like, dig into their chart and. But, like, when we think about, really, the person who's like, I just want to create a life that I love. I want more fulfillment, more excitement, more love, more joy, more alignment. Like, what is the advice that you have for that person?

Be grateful for what you already have.

That's it.

Nice job.

Oh, my God, it's so true. Be grateful for what you have.

Yeah. And that's not saying you're wrong for wanting more, but that's, like the. The key, right? You know that it is the key.

It's so simple. But then when you see how profoundly it affects your life in every area, it's, like, undeniable.

That.

That is. That's the secret. That's the.

Yeah. Yeah. And plus, like, you've already created your life to this point. Right. And so you need to be grateful for what you've already created so that you encourage yourself, your energy, your subconscious, your higher self to keep creating. If you're not happy with what you've already created, like, your higher self, your subconscious self isn't going to create more.

Yeah.

It's like gratitude and being proud of yourself.

Yeah. Yeah. And just, like, getting into that energy.

Yeah.

Like, wow.

Yeah.

I've created.

Yeah.

Look what I already have.

Yeah.

So what's next for you? What are you. What's like, what are you manifesting next?

Do you know?

I know.

Are you just going with this, like.

Yeah.

Energy and momentum that you created?

I mean, I have some thoughts on some different projects to do.

Maybe a podcast.

A podcast has been, like, literally on the back burner for years. Years and years. It's kind of just been like, we need the right time, the right location, the right people, all of that to pull together, because I don't need, like, a ton more on my plate.

Yeah.

As far as, like, setting up and things like that.

Yeah.

A book.

Like.

Like a memoir kind of book or, like.

Yeah.

Personal development?

Kind of like a. Both. Like a. Like a memoir, you know, Prescriptive.

Yeah.

Book. So, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, again, like, a day away from signing a book, too. Gemini Newman's very. Is very interesting for me this time. Like, there's a ton of changes, like, happening, like, literally today, tomorrow.

Wow.

Interesting. Yeah.

Do you still write things down? Like, do you write down what you're calling in? Like, do you. Do you use your workbooks?

I do use my workbooks. It's kind of fun because I write them months in advance, so sometimes, like, I'll open up and I'll, like, answer my own journaling prompt that I wrote, like, two months ago and be like, oh, I like that one. So I do. And I still do the work. I still do the work of setting intentions on the new moon, and then I still do the daily work. I have a daily practice, which I turned into the daily journal, which is on the sight. But I've had this practice since my 20s, and I literally just. I write down my gratitudes, what I'm grateful for, and then I write five things I have to do today, and then I write five things that I want to do with my life every day. You write this every day? I've written it, like, every day. I mean, I miss some days because.

Do the five things you want to do with your life, do those change every day or not always.

Like, I've written the same thing for, like, 20 years.

The same five same.

Like, there's one that I've written, like, pretty much every day for 20 years. And so. And, like, write a book was on there for a very, very long time. But I love this practice. I learned it a long time ago. And you look at the five things you have to do for the day, and you're like, am I dreading them? Am I looking forward to them? Does it just feel like a to do list? Do I need to change my Life. So that the things that I have to do, like, bring me joy. Right. So there's some information there. And then it also is just like a clarity thing. Like, these are the five most important things I have to do today, you know, but then there's also that, like, do I want to do them?

Yeah.

Interesting. I don't really approach that like that. I like that of.

Yeah. And so I love that practice first thing in the morning, and then, yeah, the five things I want to do with my life. And then you get to see the themes that show up. And then that's like, what I'll work with with the New Moon. Intention setting is like, those themes that keep showing up. She can look back. Especially if you do this practice for years, like, what has been showing up.

Wow.

On this list, you just use a regular, like, blank journal.

I. Yeah, I do. And then I will use the daily. So this is actually in the daily journal, which, you know, is on our site. And so it has, like, everything lined out for you. And I like doing that too. Like, because it's just like, I'm going to write in these lines.

Yeah.

But I did it, like, my practice is just doing a moleskine, you know, journal. I've, like, stacks of them.

Oh, my God. Oh, how fun.

So usually, like, behind me in video, I like, was. This stuff is stacks of journals.

Wow.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

This has been. I mean, it's just exceeded my already, like, through the roof expectations of you and your energy and what you've shared today. Thank you so much. I am so grateful. I'm so excited that we did this on a New moon day.

I feel.

I woke up today, Jill, feeling so inspired, and it's.

I haven't felt this way.

I was actually worried for a few weeks. I'm like, am I ever gonna be inspired again? I was just kind of going through. And sometimes that happens, but then, of course, it always shifts back. But I woke up feeling it. And then I realized, oh, my God, it's the new Moon and I'm interviewing Jill. It just feels like, so. Right.

You got your magic back.

I got my magic back. So we know people connect with you. Go to spirit daughter. Go to your website. You've got so many things there. And also, you like your. Your debt, your tarot decks and your. I mean.

Yeah.

Do you call them? You don't call them.

They're manifestation cards.

Manifestation.

They're like a daily practice. So you can pull cards. I love card pulling.

Yeah.

I love that deck. It's so Beautiful.

Yeah.

That was something I channeled. That's like a book. And I wrote that book so quickly, and I just, like, channel.

Oh, wow.

The point where, like, I. I'll read it. I'll be like, is this good?

Oh, wow, how cool.

But it just, like.

Did you write all the cards, too?

Yeah, the cards. I came up with all the cards. I didn't design them, but I came up with, like, all the cards and all the mantras on the cards and their names and everything. And it's like, what I spent 2021 doing. It was 2021.

Oh, wow.

Maybe it was 2022. Anyway.

Yeah.

Okay. So it's your website. It's Spirit Daughter.

Everything's Spirit Daughter.

Everything Spirit.

Yeah, everything's Spirit Daughter. So you can just remember that and put it in all the. All the things.

We'll put it in all the things. Thank you so much, Joel.

Yeah. Thank you for having me. This has been great.

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