Stronger than you think with Stacey Lauren

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I'll just set the frame. So since we're in the community, so you guys are in for a treat. I think we'll see. No, it's kidding because it's about me. So it's like.

Okay.

Sarah and I are in similar groups and she reached out, haven't done. Hasn't done a live video interview yet. And I was excited to be her first. So we're in the do the thing community, the new collaboration network group. And you're gonna get to see Sarah's first interview, which is always fun getting to do that. So you want to introduce yourself first so everyone knows who you are, what you're doing and then we'll kind of like dive into the interview. But let me, before we do that, there's one more thing. I don't know if you want to see it, the this tech part, because we're showing. I'm also showing her how to go live on Zoom too. Do you want to just see it? The part of what I do? Yeah, I'll show you. So the other thing I do when I'm in there so you guys get.

To watch the behind the scenes version.

Is I just like pin it. Oh, hey Benjamin. I pin it here. So then people like get notified version. And then I. Is I just like, oh, hey Benjamin. I pin it here, mute it there and so good to see you. And then I just hit like an everyone. We are live with. Sarah's everyone likes to be everyone's first.

And how many times do we get to be a first nowadays, you know?

So.

There we go. Yeah, so share about you and then. And then we'll. Yeah, we can get started. Started. Okay, cool.

So I don't know a little bit about what I do or like how we met or.

Yeah, you. It's all you. Yeah, we'll start with you. Yeah.

So I am, I'm an energy worker mainly and I've worked with one on one clients now for about 13, 14 years. Massage therapist for 25 years. So I, I do a lot of one on one work and I love it. I'm a group fitness instructor. So I do a whole bunch of stuff where it's like time for money. And I really, I really like the idea of being able to reach more people and have it be more of like a one to many instead of one to one. I mean, my vision is to change the world and one at a time is a little bit slow, so I.

That's so good, right?

I mean like you only have so Many hours in the day, just like everybody. And so the more people you can talk to at once, I think the better, the more impact, the bigger impact you can have for good. And I think our world needs more good right now.

Yeah, I love it.

And then I heard Eileen on an interview with somebody else that I follow, and then I really liked her world, hopped into her world. And then I saw you presenting and I loved everything that you were talking about. So then I started kind of following you and figuring out. I love. I love how real and raw and like, I mean, this is what it is. Like, I love that you just. You do it anyways. You do the thing. You show up, you're like, I don't know, it's going to be messy and I'm going to fall down, but who cares?

Yeah. No, it's so good because I think that's. That's the thing that, like, holds everyone back. Right. But when you can, like, kind of bring people into your experience. That's why I love this, like, founding member concept, you know, of like, getting the 100 founding members. It's because they're part of it at the beginning. And so it's like you're like, growing together through the process and like, co creating whatever it is. But most people are scared to have people see them, you know, in a certain way. But it's actually really liberating and freeing when you're able to do it with people on a. On a. On the beginning, you know, level too.

Absolutely. And thank you for that permission. Over and over, it's. It's fascinating. I think a lot of times we hear people say that, oh, it's fine to mess up, but then you don't ever see them not, like, messing up, but being imperfect.

Yeah.

You know, you're not often on the journey from the beginning. You see them when they're more polished. And so I love that even though you are totally polished in what you do, you still just kind of laugh at yourself and you're like, well, I messed that up. And you pointed out, because really, we think we have to be perfect for people, but I don't like really being around anybody super perfect because then I. I feel super inferior. So the. The more human you can see a person, I. The better, you know, the more you can learn from them. Like, oh, oh, they put their pants on like I do, or they're not wearing pants to a zoom meeting like me, you know, like, you just. You just feel a lot more, I don't know, just kind of comfortable. I Guess.

Yeah, I know. It's my. It's my funny, like, claim to fame is. I was at Dr. TB's event. It was so good. Last week. Last week already? Yeah, last week. And she had this part. It was really fun. She had this part where we got to talk about our premium offers, and. And she was asking people who. Who they wanted to go first. And she asked me, you know, to go first. And I'm like, you just want me to, like, show, like, the imperfect, you know, like, pitch. So then everyone opens up. And so anyway, that is my claim to fame. But it, like, it's. It is true. This happened even when I was applying. I was doing this. I was part of this TEDx cohort when I was applying to TEDx. And we're on this, like, group call, and they're like, who wants to go first? You have to, like, pitcher, one minute. Kind of, like, pitch in order to apply. And. And I raised my hand. I was in. Remember, I was in the car with my daughter, and my daughter was driving, and I'm, like, sitting on the zoom. And they asked, and I'm like, I'll just go first. And they're all like, thank God. And then. And then when I go, it's terrible, you know, like, it's awful. But then everyone else was like, I'll go. I'll go. So there. I think it's, like, owning that I feel. It feels good to me. And then. But then what happened was I was doing. I think this was. We met. I was doing a find your voice challenge few months ago, where I normally just pitch it to my warm audience, but this time, like, the whole idea with the stuff I do, it's like, you have your warm audience. You're able to nurture them, get to know them, and then once you do that, you're able to then take it out to the world and go cold. Right where you could put Facebook ads and put the fire on it. And so I had converted the find your voice challenge a bunch of times. So I figured, okay, I'm going to take it out to the cold. So I did these videos. I don't know if you've seen those videos, but they're on Instagram and some of them are on reels and stuff, and they're like these, like, more polished, if you call it videos.

Yeah.

And like, where I'm saying I'm good, you know?

Yeah.

You know, and because I'm, like, trying to get people to find their voice through this thing, be real on video. And I like, Fell into massive imposter syndrome so much that I did this whole, like, live. Because the pressure was so much, and I. Anyway, it was. It was crazy. But it is true, right? It's like, then you have to be something where. Where you think you do, you know? But I really. Yeah, you don't need to be anybody. Like, you know, you just don't. And that's exhausting. Anyway, so. Yeah. Oh, sorry. One second. Zoom pitch is the new elevator pitch. I got echoed. Are we hard to hear? Let me know, because I could always get into. I can use my mic if you guys want.

Hi, Neil.

Good to see you.

Oh, yeah, I have a mic, too, if it's.

Yeah, I'll just do that because my zoom has been a little weird lately. Let me do that. Plus, you get to see my polished look. Since we're talking about polish, can I.

Grab my mic, too? It's in the other room, but I can't.

No, I think we'll be okay. One second. Yeah, let me just see that.

I get podcast.

Stacy, that's super awesome.

It's funny. So for my pod, so just so it's clear, I did not have a microphone. Well, I tried to get a microphone for, like, I don't even know, 80 episodes. Like, I. Like, I had 80 episodes, not a mic, but I got different mics, but none of them worked, you know? And so then there'd be times, though, where I'm like, oh, I can't record. I don't have the right mic. That's why when I did the podcast challenge, I'm like, no mic. Because it's just confusing, you know? And so finally, yeah, I ended up getting a mic, but I only use it for the podcast, typically, because when I go live, there's something about the energy, you know, that I like just having, like, all of it around me. But anyway, I'm good right now. You're making me feel like we're in a safe space so I can have my. That's awesome.

That makes me happy. That's my. That's. I. I absolutely love doing that. I have a question for you, if that's okay.

Yeah, let's do it.

So you are so about being raw and real and in the moment. Do you remember when that started?

Oh, that's a great question. So I think it's like the. It's the falling down part, right? Where, like, I was like, when I owned my staffing company. It's 20 years in that business, right? And it was very, like.

I want to say I was Always myself with it. But I definitely, like, I. In the company, I was very much myself. But, like, when people would, like, outside want me to do stuff or talk to them, you know, I like, thought I had to be this, like, CEO, you know, like, of, like this thing, you know? And so.

I just never was, like, comfortable owning that also, because I felt like this, like, unsophisticated CEO, which I realized what it was. Well, that's another story for another day. But I realized that that just came up last week. But anyway, when I left, so. And then I tried to, like. I always was trying to, like.

What's the word? Like, yeah, I felt like I had to be something, right? And so, like, I didn't want to speak outside of my company because I, like, thought people would find me out, you know, that, like, maybe I didn't know something. Like, maybe I didn't know something that I was, like, supposed to know, you know? And so anyway, then. And there's more to that story where, like, you know, I was giving too much to my everything, you know, it was like, kind of like losing myself and my identity and all of that. Then when I exited that business.

I went through, like, this huge, like, identity crisis, you know, where, like, people that I felt like were my family. Imagine, 20 years, right? We had, like, so many employees that have been with us for 15 plus years. They going through us, the recession, Covid babies. We even had, like, I have a video online with, like, for that company during COVID just showing, like, even our. We had one year. I think you heard this story. Did you hear that? Did you stay till the end on Saturday? Okay. I talked about Kelsey, who was the employee that had passed away suddenly, and she was like, 24. And that's when everyone had babies. Well, we. Literally everyone had babies like, the next year. So we even did, like, this baby photo.

Like, baby photo experience. So we had, like, seven of our, like, key managers had babies, you know, because after she passed away, she's 24. They're like, okay, everything I want to do, I'm going to do, right? So we had this, like, baby time. And so we did, like, photo shots. Like, we did, like, photo ops with, like, all the babies. And so every year we did, like, three years in a row. We have, like, the most adorable pictures of these babies. And anyway, we're very much close to their families. And then when I exited that business, I. I stayed in touch with a couple people, but that's it. Like, it was like, oh, my gosh, it was all about, like, it was, like, all about the come. Like, the company. I don't know. It was weird. It was like we just lost touch, and it. I no longer mattered to people or something. I don't know what it was. And I tried to stay in touch, but it didn't work. But anyway, through that, then, like, all this stuff happened, and then I just got tired of just trying to, like, be something, you know, that I, like, felt like I wasn't, you know? And so I think it was just, like, bearing down all these, like, layers of, like, who you are, who you think you're supposed to be, and then. And then all of a sudden, you, like, start to come out. And then what. I think what happened was the podcast started, and that's when I'm just, like, connecting with people on the podcast, and they're telling me their story about how they overcame their struggles and achieved success. And I just felt really connected to people, you know? And so I then just started tapping more into, like, who I was. And I think I mentioned this where I, like, didn't even have the video on. So it's just, like, pure. Like, it wasn't even, like, the video was on, you know? Like, it's not even that I didn't show the video. Like, there was no video on. So we have this, like, really intimate, like, time where we're not even looking at each other, which almost felt more liberating in a way, you know, and. And I don't know, I just really dialed in. And then, I don't know, it was maybe, like, 10 episodes in. That's when I realized it wasn't no longer just about doing the thing that I helped people with, because I started. When I started, I wanted to help people do the thing, break past the mental baggage that, like, keeps us stuck. But by, like, the 10th episode, I realized, wait, I've not only gotta, like, do the thing and help people do the thing, like, we've gotta do it, like, from what's deep inside of us, you know, what our, like, internal knowing is. And so then I started bringing in experts, and then, I don't know, I just kept, like, being myself then, you know, it just. It just felt really alive. And then the first community, when I started my first community, and I was scared. I think I mentioned this, too. I was scared to go live. Um, so I went on Zoom and worse. Like, I think the very first one I did myself, because I was showing the structure of the challenge. But after that, I still had experts come on with me because I wasn't like, comfortable being alone yet, you know. And so I think, though, the more of your. Then I started getting more confident, you know, basically, and the more people got impacted by, like, the stuff that I was doing, the more confident I became. So, yeah, it was a really slow but yet fast journey, you know, because it was through just constantly, like, putting my voice out and tapping, tapping into, like, what I was doing and then having people around it kind of, like amplified it.

That's so awesome. I think one of my favorite parts about that is that you were. You were scared and you did it anyway.

Yeah.

And I think people don't realize that that happened. So in massage therapy school, you made me think of this the very first day. They said, okay, you're going to get under the sheets, you're going to take off all your clothes for a massage. And we were all like, we've never met these people. We're in this room, like in massage school, there's all these tables set up and you just have like a sheet and you crawl under there and you have to figure out how to, like, get undressed and stuff. And we were all totally freaked out. You know, we didn't know we're going to be asked to take off our clothes. And that's kind of what you did, you know, you, yeah, you got on immediately, you were uncomfortable. But, like, that's where you start. The only way you gain confidence is by doing the thing. Right. You can't gain confidence in doing a podcast unless you do a podcast. I can't gain confidence in interviewing somebody until you interview somebody and you're weird and uncomfortable. So I just love the example that you set and that you keep finding new ways to help people do things that they're uncomfortable with.

Yeah. Thank you. And I think a lot of people think they have to, like we were talking about earlier, they have to jump in the freezing cold water, you know, when they're doing something. And so then it's like, takes you forever to want to do it, you know, because who wants to really do that? Right? We want to, like, inch in sometimes. And sometimes there's a place for that, you know? But there's also, if you think that you're not going to be like, if you see that you're not jumping in the cold water, then you got to take a step, you know, and then when you take the step, then you're able to take another step. So I feel like I really wish people would know that more because there's always such a big gap for, like, where they are and where they need to be, you know, and if you're. If you can go this big gap, then do it right. Do the thing. But if you can't, then you gotta. Like, time is everything. Like, especially in my world, like, I've got the over 50 people happening, right? So it's like, we gotta, like, we gotta run know, like, we cannot be inching along, you know, and so it's like. It's like, take this step then. So then you could take the next step. And then all of a sudden, it, like, truly compounds.

Absolutely. And I. I think so what you were say, what I heard that sometimes there's this gap, and you made me think of my kids. Sometimes they're standing at the edge of the pool and they're like, I want to get in. I'm like, just get in. They're like, I can't. Can you push me? And so that made me think of kind of what you were saying, that you've created so many communities that for people who need to get pushed, they can get pushed, and for people who enjoy pushing, they can be there to push. You know, all the conversation in the community and the different. The different communities that you've built allow people to. Who are scared to put a foot in or to put a toe in or to just say, put somebody, just push me in. And then all of a sudden you're there to push. So that's. That's really cool. Do you want to talk a little bit about that community that you're just launching right now?

Oh, yeah, actually, yeah. And Benjamin just asked a couple questions. Are you okay? I'll.

Oh, yeah, totally.

Okay, good. And, oh, Brita just said, that's a great point, Sarah. That's good. Thanks. Frida. Good to see you. Yeah. So he said, how did you find your first experts to speak with? And did you need to pay those first ones somehow? Yeah. So such a good question, because a lot of people wonder, right? What do you get the experts from? So I have a dare that I give in the program I'm doing, and it's called the Life Assets dare. And I have an episode that you guys, anyone can listen to. It's on the podcast Amelia Case. If you look up Life Assets. Trying to remember the number, I could find it later. If you guys remind me, I'll. I'll look it up, but it's really good. And that's where I help you tap into, like, all of those skills that you have had in your life and those, like, experiences. And then, guess what? You get to do so cool. You get to reach out to the people that were part of that, that helped you along the way. And so a lot of my first experts was like, a coach that I had worked with, like, two coaches from the very beginning. So, like the dating challenge, one of the experts I brought in was my holistic coach, Dr. Nancy DeAndrade. I brought in another coach I had worked with before that, Dr. Emilia Case. And then I had brought in erotic blueprint therapist that I had met at an event that was just like the coolest girl ever. And so we met. So that's another life assets. It's any events. It doesn't have to be a coach you worked with. It could be someone that you've gone to something with that you've been like. I mean, with her, I was like. I was like, met her and her energy was just like, you know, like, where you just felt the pull, right? Like, I have to talk to her. And so anyway, so she came on and she was super fun. So that's like, where you get your experts from. It's from people that have been in your life. And, yeah, it's exciting. And so speaking of that, that's where the collaboration network is really the newest community. Thanks for bringing that up. That I'm like, my heart is there with you guys. And I'm so glad you're here because.

You know, like, we just think we have to do it alone, you know, it's like. And we don't. Right. Originally, I created this group because I have this audience accelerator program. The people in there were having a hard time, some of them promoting their stuff. Right. And everything that I've done in there now has changed, and it's different. I've simplified and I've taken out all the things that were hard and made it easy where it's not even about promoting anymore. I think you heard that part where it's all about just contributing now. But at the time, I was like, oh, I wanted a space where I could, like, kind of, like, show them more, right? Like, maybe adding them in hot seats and different ways to add to their network. But it turned out it was something that I've been craving. I just didn't realize it. With my staffing company, it was very competitive and cutthroat, and I was constantly having to meet with the owners of the different, like, companies to, like, you know, work out strategies to stop have their sales people stop messing with my sales people. And it was ridiculous. And so the nice thing about the online world is like, here we are, right? Like we're able to just do this and say like, what do you need? How can I help you? And then, then it's like back and forth and it's just like the coolest way to play with people, right? Because we're able to, to do it together. And that's what I love. And so, yeah, this space is meant to be a place where we're able to do that, you know, on such a high level. And I'm putting together an expert panel right now. I just finalized the last two experts this morning, so that'll be happening sometime in July. And the people are on it are incredible. And it's going to be exciting because they're going to help me. Like that's how I do everything. As I always put an expert panel together because that helps bring it's collaboration. It brings all those ideas fresh and it gets me into like how I want to really create something. So I've done it. For every challenge that I've done, I always put an expert panel around it. And that's where like, you know, because you can't just come up with all your own things, like, right, you gotta talk to other people. And that's what brings it more into your stuff. That's what's always so funny whenever anyone tells me like, oh, you know, whatever they say, you know, like you've heard some of the stuff, you know, and I'm like, no, it's literally nothing's my thing. I'm coming. It's like I'm just getting the like ideas from everyone and then I'm like bringing them in and putting in its own way, which ends up being really cool, you know, to work that way.

It's super legit too because then you've got the for reals experts, you know, And Benjamin says on here when he asked about how'd you find your first experts to speak with? I think it's easy to be like, well, I don't know anybody, but we do, we do know. And we, you know, an expert could be like you said, you know, a therapist that you talk to or a coach or a mentor or a friend. Wait a minute, you're, you're an expert in this. You own your own business. All of a sudden you start to see these people, I think, and you just have to ask, you know, and sometimes it's pay to play somebody. I think, I think maybe Benjamin asked the same thing. Sometimes it's pay to play, you know, you get a group and, and you're in there. And then you sort of have more access to different people, but not always, you know.

Yeah, yeah. And you guys have this collaboration network. And I see Jan is here. Hey, Jana. She said the collaboration group is awesome. I'm thankful to be in it. And. And the nice thing is you guys could always post in here and say, oh, I'm looking for someone that X. Right. Especially if you have. For those of you that have want communities, it's great because once you find out what the people want to learn, then even if you do know it, it's okay to also connect with someone else that knows it too, because it's always a different version. You know, I could be talking to someone else that builds audience or someone else. Like tomorrow I'm interviewing somebody who can help you grow a podcast and automate it. Right. And I have experience in that, but I'm bringing him on because he brings a whole nother level to it. Right. And so it's really great. And then potentially there's a collaboration then that started when we're able to do it together.

So I've heard the story of, you know, about hamburgers. You know, McDonald's isn't the only place that make hamburgers. And most people would say that that's not even their. Their top choice, but if other people didn't make hamburgers, that would be our only choice. So I love that you collaborate with people who do the same thing you do because you get to learn something else. You know, I'm sure that every, every interview, you know, both people take something away. I mean, I already have like four pages and these, these 15 or 20 minutes that we. It's just, it's. It's so cool what we're able to learn from others life experiences and just, you know, by having the experience itself. So that's really awesome.

So good. And then also, like, when you know the communities that you want to serve in, it's great because then you know where to get experts too, right? Because like Drew, the guy that I ended up getting the other day for the YouTube one, I don't know if you saw that one. That one's so good, where he told us all about YouTube. That just came from me posting in one of my groups saying, like, oh, hey, who knows? Someone that's crushing it on YouTube, you know what I mean? Like, we had met in an event, like, briefly, but other than that, we were really new to each other, you know, and it was great because I immediately had this amazing expert that came from a curated community that Is really, you know, part of my life assets world, you know, so. Absolutely.

I love that you just weren't afraid to ask. You just put it out there. Because what. So the worst thing, really, that's going to happen is there won't be someone there and you're in the exact same place you were. Right. Like, that's not really even that bad.

Yeah. Yeah. So true. Yeah. It's such a good point.

What a great example. Awesome. I love that.

So what is your. I'm curious about this, too. What is your favorite thing that you do?

Oh, man.

Yeah.

So it's so funny because.

I. I don't know what it is about setting people up on podcasts. I am, like, weirdly obsessed with it. I think I know what it is. It's because, like, most people, when they are, like, thinking about doing a podcast, and this was me. I remember there was one point during COVID I was still in my staffing company, and my friend of mine, she finally got me to go on video because she's like, you have to speak up. You're the face of the business. You know, the CEO of the company. Like, you have to tell them what's going on during COVID Right. Because it was like, crazy with the employees and with companies and all the stuff. And so there are a few videos online about. One does not have my face on it and the other one does, but my eyes are closed the whole time.

Because I, like, was not, you know, I didn't like being on video or not. Had never even really done it. And so well.

And really quick. Can I just say, I don't think anybody really loves being on video unless you're, like, an actor. And even then, I've heard they don't watch themselves back. So I think that's like.

Yeah. So we. Well, what's weird is I like it now, but only if I have people around. Like, if. If it's with, like, I'm talking to you or, like, where I know I've got people like, there, then it's okay because I know I'm talking to someone. It's just when you're in this vacuum of yourself, it's really hard, which I didn't. I identify. That's interesting until right now because I kept thinking, I do like video now. But you're right, I don't like it if I'm alone, then it's not fun. But. But, yeah. So that's why I do the thing. I don't create content. I create conversations because, you know, it's A lot more. It's a lot more fun to do that. Yeah. And so, so, yeah. So when I, so at that point she was like, oh, you should probably do a podcast. And I was like, podcast? And then she showed me all these things you had to do to do a podcast. And I was like, oh, no, I cannot do that. You know. And so, and then when I started my podcast, I love the founder, he is so cool. I ended up investing in his platform because I just like, I'm in love with what he's doing. He's doing boys and girls club stuff where he's one of the selected platforms for like helping the kids start their own podcasts. And so I invested after I did the podcast challenge because I just loved, I loved just being able to give people this like, simple way to do it. Although whenever I help people set them up on podcasts, it's platform agnostic. They can set it up where however they want. So I never like, I'm not doing it because of that. Like, it's just another kind of like thing. But like when I, in that five minutes that it takes me to like set someone up on their podcast and I see their face, you know, like, just be like, wait, I have a podcast. Like, what do you mean? You know? And they're like, well, what do I do? I'm like, you just go on Zoom and you like record videos just like this or if you're going live already or you have something anywhere, like you just upload it to the podcast and like, well, wait, how does it get on Apple? I'm like, oh, it's just like a one time setup and you could put it on Apple and Spotify and then anytime once it's synced, you just hit publish and it goes on all the platforms. And just like the awe, you know, of that like face.

Moment, it's more than anything I could ever, like, ever want. And so, yeah, that is my number one favorite thing to do. Yeah, my number two favorite thing to do is helping people set up on a Facebook group. But the podcast is like, is like beyond anything because that just like is streamed everywhere, you know, and it's just such a simple thing. And I think a lot of people think they could probably start a Facebook group, whereas the podcast feels harder, which is why I like to do it because I really like helping people overcome a tech block, you know. Okay, yeah, because once you overcome a tech block, then it's like, wait, what else can I do Now I've just started a podcast, you know, and Then all of a sudden, it opens up a little bit more. Excellent.

Yeah, that's cool. So you like showing people the simplicity.

Yes. Yeah.

It's just not even that hard.

And then Jana just said, video can make my mind scramble. Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm glad that we identified that. I didn't think, Sarah, because I haven't thought about that until now, that it's different. Yeah, it's like, that's why I like video, because I like connecting with people. We're doing it. Either we're together or I've got people in the comments that I'm talking to. But yeah, if I'm trying to do something for even my program, the only time when my programs were challenges or whatever, if I'm doing those, I try to do like five minute videos and then I give people a dare. Like right now I'm doing it for the program I'm starting in August is I'm like, I have to record all these videos, but when I record the best, it's when I have people waiting for the video. So, like, when I did find your voice as the beta, it was like, I recorded the video and then the next day, like, I got to see what they did and then I got to record another video. So it was like, really easy because I'm able to like, okay, now I know what they need, you know, because I just saw it. So.

Yeah, Yeah, I like that whole people are waiting. I. I tend to do a similar thing. If I'm in a group with a whole bunch of people and they give me time for questions, I put my hand up immediately and then I'm like, shoot, what am I even going to ask? So. But it forces me. I love that, you know, and I love, like, okay, I'm going to schedule this live thing. That means I have to show up and I have to talk about something because if I. People are going to be disappointed. So. Yeah. And talking face to face. But we've gotten so used to just texting and looking down at a phone with no face that I think that video, it does. It really connects people a lot more.

Yeah. Yeah, I love that. That's so good.

Yeah, that's really, really awesome. So do you. Okay. So apart from the challenges of being on video.

Oh, yeah.

Any other challenges that are like, challenges almost stopped you, but, like, didn't because you're like, forget it. It's not going to stop me. I'm just going to power through.

I mean, they're having long. Do we have.

Right?

Yeah, let's think. So really?

Maybe even a tactic for doing it, because you just are so good at seeing. Seeing the better. It's almost like. You see, this is where I want to be, and I know I have to do these dumb things to get there. So I just hear. I just. It's almost like.

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. Okay. I have that. Let's just tell you. Wait, Brida said. She too funny. She does the same thing. Sarah. And then Janice said, what a great idea. Put your hand up right away. So good. Yeah. Oh, no, no, it's smart.

I got to ask a question.

I don't want to look stupid. Good. But my problem is I'll do that. And then I'll be like, I don't remember what my question was.

That's why you got to write it down. I know.

Write it down. Yeah. But. Yeah, I think so. When I was in college, I had this job, which was, like, kind of my pivotal moment in life. And I sold bookstore to Door. And they. They're so smart. And this is why I want to do a live event someday. I really. I have that in my head that I really want to do this because there's something about, like, being immersive, you know, like the immersion in a live experience that just really. Yeah. I was thinking about when I was launching.

Yeah, yeah.

In person.

Okay.

Yeah. Because. Yeah. Even now I'm launch launching this thing right now, and it's August 5th is when it starts. I'm like, oh, do I want to do it in person or do I want it online? I went through this whole thing. I'm not ready to do in person yet, but what. So planting a seed for you guys for the future. But when I sold Bookstore to Door, where I'm going with this is I went to school at Florida State, which is in Tallahassee, and they always send you to another state because they don't want you in the same city.

Like.

Where you live, because that's where your friends and family are. And it's really hard to get this everyone. It's really hard to, like, open yourself up to a new identity, you know, when you're around the people that, like, know you. Right. You almost need to, like, go into a new environment in order to, like. And I don't mean it doesn't have to be this drastic, obviously, you know, but that's why I like community so much. Right. And being around people with shared goals. Because I did this where then I went to. First year, we went to Michigan, and then another year I went to Iowa. And I was around people that I had just met the first year, you know, and we had the shared goal, which was selling books. But the. Go back to your question. Is the, the. This is where I learned action cures fear, you know, so anytime I'd be like uncomfortable going to a house or knocking on the door or whatever it was, I would say action cures fear. This is also where I learned how to have fun, you know, because we would just like, like do the most ridiculous thing in the mornings. We would do these like meetings right before we go out. Like seven in the morning. I don't even remember how. I. I don't even know. So seven in the morning we meet at the Bob's Big Boy and then at 8 we'd be knocking on doors. If someone knocked at my door at 8 o', clock, I'd be like, what are you doing? I don't even know. I must have been like that was talking about brainwashing back then. But anyway, and we'd go to like 8 o' clock at night. It was crazy. But anyway, it was great times though because we're around the people that are doing it too, so it didn't feel weird, you know. And so, so yeah, so we'd be at the Bob's Big Boy and I don't ever been to one of those, but he's got like the, the whole thing and you're like rubbing them, you know, and you're like, buy the books. And I don't know, the whole thing's just fun, right? And then when I'm knocking on the doors, I'm singing like Auna Matata, you know, and it's just like having fun with it and everything was just fun. I mean, it really made like. I mean, even the days that were like raining, you know, were fun because I'm like, oh, I get to, you know, go at the time now it sounds crazy, but like go inside someone's house, you know, because they're going to feel bad for me as a college student. They're going to let me in. I'm going to have my best day, you know. So anyway, I think that's, that's. I think that's what helps is like when you could like work your look some work, some tricks that help. You didn't even feel like tricks at the time. But I think looking back, maybe it was some reframes that helped the most.

That's awesome. Yeah.

Action cures fear. Yeah.

Yeah, I love that. And it seems like too being around the right people who either believe in you or who are already doing it. So get in that dang room, right? Get around the right people. Yeah, you're gonna make you be accountable, but also show you that, look, I'm doing it too. And it's like, oh, okay, well, if you can do it. I heard once that. That people who are addicted to drugs feel like everybody is, because that's their community. And so people, right, who are really successful, if they surround themselves with other people who are successful, then everybody is successful. So it's kind of. Kind of this idea of who do you want your everybody to be? You know, if you want your everybody to be to. To be brave and do the thing, you join the community, right? The. The collaboration, and you get people who've had those same experiences to be like, yeah, I had this experience. It was amazing. And, yeah, I had this experience, and it was amazing.

And yeah, yeah, it's true. And this is why I like helping people build communities around a shared goal, you know, because, like, if you don't have the same goal and you're like, you're all, like, wanting different things, you know, it's hard to connect. But if there's a common purpose, a common goal, then there's, like, so much that can come around that. Right. You know, and then your normal support network is great, but they can't help you with that goal. They don't understand. Right. And so the community is what helps uplift whatever the message is the per. Person's trying to do, you know, and whatever they're trying to change in the world. And I loved what you said. I wrote that down, too. Yeah. If I want to change the world, one at a time is a little bit slow. So that's what the community is the antidote for that. Right? Because you're putting them with the shared goal and all the people around that, and then they're not feeling alone, they're feeling supported, they're feeling accountable. It's, like, so cool.

Yeah, absolutely, too, because I think that happens a lot, even at school. You know, when you major in something, you go into a field where everybody's kind of learning the same thing. And. And we don't often do that in life. We don't. We don't often surround ourselves with the kind of people we want to be become. You know, we almost just let life happen to us instead of for us. So I love the idea of these groups where you can really ask people what they want, and then it happens. Fine, let's all get together. We all want this Same thing. Here we are. Let's all meet in a place and hang out together and talk about this and figure out how to lift each other and. And get going. So I just.

Yeah, yeah. And then what happens too, is.

It'S like when people can share. And I saw Kimmy's here, so she knows that she's been in a lot of the do the thing challenges, but when people can. So, hey, Kimmy. When people can share, like, their excuses, you know, for, like, not wanting to reach the goal, it's like you see that you're not alone. And you're, like, limiting beliefs, too, right? Because a lot of people, they'll have, like, limiting beliefs around something, but they'll think that they're the only ones or there's something wrong with them, you know? But when you're in a community, you get to see whatever people's challenges are, but it's not in a way of, like. I don't know, trauma bonding is the right word to use, but, like, it's not in a way of, like, downness. It's in a way of, like, I want this goal, right? That's why I always like putting it with a goal and not something negative. Because if you're wanting something and you're sharing your excuses, it's a good. Because you're saying, like, how you're going to overcome them versus, like, why those excuses live. And then the other thing that I love is I'm doing the formula with you right now, just so you know, the do the thing formula, but I love the. The educate part of I'm. Which is where, like, you're in this community where people have a shared goal, and there's some people in there that are, like, learning, you know, and then there's other people in there that have, like, been two steps ahead, so they get to teach. And so it's like this back and forth again, going back to collaborations. Beautiful thing where you're getting to contribute to others, you know, by being there, but then you're also getting to learn from others. And so it's just an amazing way to. I mean, that's why it's like. It's really the ultimate purpose. Full thing you could do really, you know, is to, like, be. Either be in the space like this or to create the space, because you're all part of something bigger than you could be when you're by yourself.

Awesome. I love that. Two steps ahead, you can have those behind you. That. And that's such a good way to. To learn yourself. And to kind of reiterate inside of you that, oh, wait, I have done this and I can do this. And then you can see anybody who's doing it, even though maybe they were freaked out. I think people think that those who achieve higher goals or. Or achieve more success aren't freaked out and don't get nervous and are always totally comfortable. And I found that to be quite the opposite. They just say, okay, well, I'm super uncomfortable. There's tons of opposition.

Yeah.

Oh, this world's about to change. You know, it's cool to see people just like that community of people moving forward and doing it anyways. You know, it's not. Because then you're comfortable and it's easy, and this is really cool. I'm gonna do this really hard thing, but I'm so comfortable in it. No, it's usually like, well, I may throw up while I'm doing it, but I'm. Because I gotta get it out.

Yeah, it's such a good point that a lot of people don't talk about. It's that, like, they think they see people, right? Like, you, like, doing. Live, like, now, like, doing all this stuff, right, and everything that you've been doing with your business and it's like the untouchable thing, but they don't realize, like, you still have the fears. You still have the. I'm imagining, right? Like, you still have the things that come up, especially as you go to new levels. Things like we all do, right? Like, but everyone thinks that they're alone, you know, in that they think that it's just them. And so the more you're able to be around other people, the more you're able to see that is true. And even if it's someone that you think is a million steps ahead of you, you still see it. Like, they're all. They have the same thing. You wouldn't believe how many people that I'm, like, there were like, the, like, the big asks, you know, when I wanted to collaborate or whatever with them or have them on an expert panel. And how many of them would be like, will I have anything that could be of value? And I'm like, what are you talking about? You're blank. You know, like, how do you. How do you even possibly think that, you know? And it's like, we have. We all have the same things. That's the point.

Yeah, absolutely. It's. It's funny. So we haven't. You and I haven't met, like, in person. In person. Maybe this upcoming week. I don't know if you're gonna be in Houston.

Oh, I am. I'm coming.

Yeah, yeah. You can't see, but I have, I have a mohawk and I've got like, shaved in stuff. And. And I have people come up to me all the time. They're like, your hair's so cool. I wish I could do that. And I'm like, I don't cut my own hair. I go somewhere professional and have. They're like, well, but I could never. And. And I think that that is maybe why a lot of people don't start things is the whole. I could never, you know, I could never talk to Stacy live because she's been doing it for so long. I could never cut my hair. I could never whatever. Talk to the cute boy. Like, I don't know, whatever the I could never is. And it's not because you were comfortable in the first place. It just, just. So. Yeah, it's neat to be around people who are brave enough to do stuff that they're too scared to do, but then they do it anyways.

Yeah. You know, it reminds me of when I. So I. I ended up. I got it. I don't know if you heard this part of my story. I got into stand up comedy for a little bit.

Oh, really? Yeah.

And. Which was crazy. It really came from, like, I. When I first decided to write the book do the Thing, which I think you've started to see those stories out there. That book does not exist yet. But I started to write the book, but I was like, oh, I felt like this imposter doing the thing. Because really, like, I had my company, you know, and I've done a lot of stuff, you know, like my selling books and all this stuff that I'd done. But it just like felt like I needed something new, you know, and so I'm like, oh, in order for me to really be the expert on do the Thing, you know, I. I need to, like, do something that I'm like, terrified of. So it came up that stand up comedy was the thing. And then I had. Wish I could find those voice notes because at the time I was like, voice noting myself for the book, you know, because I was like, going to track my progress. It's like, track your journey or whatever. And then. But then I decided, don't have the voice notes anymore because I was like, I'm not doing it. No one's gonna ever know, you know, and then six months later, because, I mean, who wants to do that? At that time, I wasn't even really Speaking yet. Did I even. I don't even think I had my podcast yet. So it was like, really, like early on, you know, and so I hid it under a rug. And then I. A friend of mine, like, six months later at this point, I had at least been doing my podcast. I think I was Even applying for TEDx or something, I don't remember, but I was. So I was further along, you know, and. And then a friend of mine was like, oh, I'm joining the stand up comedy class. It's like five weeks. And I'm like, oh, a class. I could do that. So I joined the class and it was great. Like, the first two weeks, like, I'm going up and, you know, you're just, you're not even being funny. You're just telling your story, you record it, and then people laugh at the points that they laugh, and then you delete everything else. So it's really easy when you're like, just in a group of people doing it is. You're just talking, you're just telling stories, and then as they laugh, you, like, cut everything else out. So it's not as hard as you think. But then.

At the third week, he's like, oh, by the way, who's gonna, like, we're. We're doing this show, you know, where you guys are gonna perform your bit, your skit. And I was like, I don't know how I missed that part of this, like, whole thing, but I did not think it was like performing on a stage, you know, so. So then I'm. But it was funny though, because if I would have known that we were performing on a stage, you know, when I first signed up. And I'm glad I don't read well because, like, I think it was probably on there and I just, like, missed it when I was, like, read, I don't think I would have signed up, you know, because it would have been like, oh, my gosh, there's no way I could do that, right? But because I didn't see it, thankfully by like the second or third week, I was like, okay, I guess I'll. I guess I could do it. But I didn't tell anyone. I only told, like, my couple, my boyfriend, and then maybe a couple of my closest friends, you know, but no one else went. But I ended up putting that video on YouTube, so it's actually kind of funny. But the point is, is, yeah, like, sometimes the thing feels too scary, but that's where the inching comes from. And I'm just glad that I Never knew that it was going to be a show or I never would have started, you know, because that's where I've gotten my. Literally my stage experience is only from this like amateur stand up comedy thing, you know, they paid 300 to do. It's nothing sexy, you know, about it. It's just like something I've like been doing and that's how I'm practicing being in front of people, basically.

That's so wonderful. I love it. Thanks for sharing that story. That's so great. There are like lots of comments that I have everything open and I'm trying to see different things.

Somebody said, Benjamin said that's what I often get when people see my beard.

Beard. Yeah.

Out of that one. I don't know about you, Stacy, but my beards are not coming in.

Look at you, you're doing good.

Normally the comments take a little bit to interact with. I'm really impressed right now. So good. If you guys didn't see. Because I saw bees. Joining.

Hey be.

This is Sarah's first live with like a person, so. Right. It's your first one with the person.

Yeah. Interviewing. I. Interviewing I teach live. I talk to a screen and I see people but not like a lot can, you know, throw a curveball and you know, make me fall down.

Yeah.

No. Good. Yeah. Somebody asked earlier how I, how I wanted to change the world with doing massage therapy. That may have been Benjamin too. I saw that go by, by education, by, by teaching people energy work and massage and I, and I'm. That's how I figure I'm going to get out there and start getting people to touch each other because how weird. Sorry, I don't mean to like, I just want to answer that question really quick.

Yeah, weird.

I am a massage therapist, so I touch people in the most. It's going to sound creepy. It's not creepy. It's a very intimate setting. Right. I don't, I don't touch their bits, but it's intimate because I touch them and they feel something and they're able to communicate with me and it's so beautiful and I want, want more families to have that. I want moms and dads and brothers and sisters to be able to lovingly touch one another often. You know, it's, it's a spank or it's a poke or it's a tickle or something that's, that's at someone instead of connecting them. So that's how I, I plan on changing that. So whoever asked that, I don't think no.

And I feel that so much because there was a point, this was back in my, like, down part of my kind of, like, journey where I was just like, like searching for stuff. And I forgot this until now. I got into something with essential oils for a little bit and I learned their. I can't remember what it's even called now, but it was some kind of. I got certified in some level of massage. Not what you're talking about, but like, I.

Therapy kind of a deal.

Yeah. Like, I would love to do what you just said, but like something with aroma therapy and essential oils. And I, like, I got certified. I even got to do it on a few of my friends. And then I did. I. I've done it, like, with my daughter and her friend. And like, whatever. It was just like all. It was just using essential oils to, like, do it. And. And it does. It's like. It's so soothing, like, to. To know that you're part of that, like, healing process, you know, for someone. I could imagine how that would feel, being able to teach that. Because that was something I. Maybe I'll go back. I even got a massage table. Like, I just need to now remember what all that was. Or maybe you'll tell me what to do. Because there's something about that that's just. Just so powerful. Right. When you're able to, like, heal someone through that modality.

Absolutely. And we've all got. In us. That's the thing is we've got. I mean, babies, you know, they. They die. It's called failure to thrive syndrome. When they're not receiving that touch. You know, we all need that beautiful healing touch and we just don't receive it enough, I don't think. Especially from those we love. You know, I'll go. A lot of people will come and pay me as a perfect stranger, you know, to have. To have this intimate time where they can feel loved and healed. I just. I want more people to be able to do that.

So I think.

Yeah. So thanks for asking that question on there. And yeah. Benjamin Chambers. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. It's hilarious because I. I hear. And I think it's Brita. Is that how you say your name? People shoulding all over themselves, you know, like, we don't do stuff. You know, I should do this and I should. And I'm just shooting all over myself. That doesn't feel very good, no matter how you heard the words. So really, really cool.

Well, and an example of just what happened. This is important for you guys to know it's like, I had forgotten I even got certified in that massage thing. That hasn't been part of my life assets thing of it. Right. So now that this is coming up, I'm like, oh, that's interesting. You know, like, I want to, like, go back to that part of my journey and, like, see who was there during that time that maybe I could reach out to and interview on my podcast or connect with, you know, because that's how you are able to bring out more of your experiences, which help you with collaborating with all the things that you're doing. So. Yeah, but it comes from conversations. Otherwise, all these memories are stuck in our head, you know, and we don't, like, remember the stuff that we've even done sometimes until we can talk and open it up.

Yeah, our subconscious is brilliant, isn't it? It's like, hold on. You have too many faith. I'll put all that stuff back.

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Awesome. Well, I mean, like, we're almost. It's almost two. I can't believe the time just, like, flew by. So having a conversation with someone is the new interviewing on stage. Like, it's so cool. It's not. Not lights and scary and crazy. It's comfort of your own home. Talking to somebody about what they're doing and how. Cool. Thank you so much for being my first.

Yeah, thank you for having me. I. I loved it. It was so fun. And thanks, you guys, for joining us last minute. I know we just immediately just set Cool to have you guys here also. Yeah, definitely. And then I'll have to. I'll have to bring you on where I get to interview you and find out all your stuff at some point, too. That'd be fun.

That would be really fun. I look forward to meeting you in real life.

Oh, yeah. I'll see you on Sunday.

How tall you are. I don't know. We all look about the same night here, don't we? How tall you are.

That's. That's always so funny. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. No, really good.

Yeah.

I'm excited to meet you in person.

Awesome. Thank you so much. Again, thank you, everybody, for showing up and. And thanks for cheering me on and for. You know, I didn't even see anybod, like, point fingers or call me names, which is so nice. So thank you.

She will get deleted if you ever do that.

Safe space. Yeah. All right, Sarah.

Thank you.

See you later, you guys. Bye. Bye.

So.