When Stress Puts You In The Hospital with Hannah Nieves
5 Jun 2024 · 35 min
Hannah Nieves, a serial entrepreneur and founder of an AI network for high net worth women founders, talks about the stress that landed her in the hospital. She discusses burnout, miscarriage, motherhood, and how she learned to manage the pressure of building companies while taking care of herself.
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What had happened over the course of my life was that any stressful moment, I would just internalize in my gut. And then what happened? Four years ago, I went to the hospital because of that, because I was internalizing all of that stress. And it took me to get to that point of not being able to literally eat besides bone broth. For me to realize, okay, I have to do something about this because this is going to either run my life or I can overcome this.
This is Reclaim in Advance, a social impact project where we host vulnerable conversations with modern day high performers who are exploring the lowest points of their personal or professional life, how they recovered, and their life on the other side of hardship. My hope is that you'll realize you aren't the only one who goes through tough times and there is a way out. Through these conversations, you'll gain inspiration from the grit and honesty of our guests and you'll learn practical tools and science backed frameworks that empower you to take on new challenges, regardless of how difficult they may seem at first. So if you're ready to join in, let's get started. Hannah Neaves is a dynamic serial entrepreneur on a mission to revolutionize the way women work and live. Hannah is the founder of Mason, an AI powered private network for high net worth women founders. She's also shared her expertise as a speaker at institutions like Northeastern University, NASDAQ Entrepreneurial center, and the Entrepreneurs Organization. And now with you. So let's dive in. Hannah, how are you today?
I'm so good. How are you?
I'm good. I have some questions for you, but one thing that I'm very aware of is often when you're a new mom, everyone asks about the baby first and not you. So I want to ask about you first, then we can follow up in regards to the baby.
Well, thank you so much. Not a lot of people ask me that and it's interesting. My daughter is now four months old and it's interesting when I describe motherhood, it's like this beautiful, intense, challenging, overwhelming. Like you feel the duality of both worlds all at once. And that's how I feel right now. It's just the duality of both.
All right, all right. Well, one question I should have asked first is Hannah. What do you do? Like, how do you support this child of yours?
I love it. So I specialize in all things marketing, branding and pr. That's my craft. That's what I did in corporate America. Started my business doing this for other people. And then I built two distinct communities, H and House, which is where I teach and advise on this for startup women founders. And then Mason, which is our AI powered private network for high net worth founders where I built a proprietary software built in that does it for you. So those are two things that I'm focused on right now.
That's impressive, I mean, because when I first met you, I believe you're primarily focusing on pr. And fast forward to today, it's like, oh, I have this AI platform that connects high net worth women. Where did this idea come from? What were you doing when that thought came to mind?
Well, it was interesting because about a year and a half ago I unfortunately had a miscarriage. And it was at this point where I had hit all the milestones in my business that you see on paper hitting seven figures and having a team and you know, just all the things traveling all over the place. And then I had a miscarriage and it was kind of like my whole world just like stopped for a moment and I started to question, I was like, what am I doing this for? You know, like what is the reasoning behind this? And I started to think bigger and then I realized that there were so many women like me who, you know, they've achieved this like, you know, monetary success in their business, but they didn't have a space to actually be fueled again. Right. Because they were the person that was always fueling into their own communities. And the options that were available were either $100,000 masterminds, which is totally fine, or the communities they didn't feel seen and heard in. And so I went out and I created that for myself and that was the birth of Mason. So I birth a human and then also a tech platform at the same time. And I decided to take my skill set and this is when I was coming onto the scene and I decided to take the skillset of AI and personal branding and thought leadership. And I was like, well be really interesting if I could create a piece of technology that could do it for these members where I don't have to be the person that does that. And so fast forward a year later, here we are and now we have a platform that's doing this for them. And we just launched. It's incredible, but you know, it just Goes to show you, when you have an idea, and even if you don't know what you're doing, there are resources and people available to help you bring it to life. You know?
Have you always been like that? Like, as a child, when you were given, like, a. I don't know, like a. A project for science, did you just, like, go all in? Whereas. Whereas if everybody else was, like, kind of chilling, like, what did that. Like, I'm just. I'm just trying to get an idea of, like, what young Hannah was doing to become the person you are right now.
So it's interesting. I was adopted when I was 18 by my stepdad. My childhood was very interesting. I. My biological father was born in a refugee camp in the Holocaust. So that just, like, paints a picture of, like, what we're dealing with here. And so growing up in childhood, the only thing that I could control was my education and, like, what I was doing. And it was interesting because as a kid, now I joke that, you know, I'm, like, the modern day, like, Matilda, but really, like, that was me when I was a kid, and I would get lost in, like, reading and books and just, like, lose myself in that place because it was better than my own reality growing up as a child. And I knew that if I could, like, focus on my career and focus on my education when I was a kid, you know, that was my. That was my ticket out of that world that I was in. So that was, like, the starting point, and it just, like, grew ever since.
As you're talking, I'm thinking about my niece, Natalia, who's. She's about 25 years old, but she had challenges growing up as well. Just because my brother had Ms. And, like, severe Ms. To the point where, you know, he couldn't even walk. And unfortunately, he passed away a few months ago. But for her, as a kid, I was like, how do you. How are you dealing with this stuff? You know? And one thing that I think she may have retreated into was her academics, because she's never had below an A, like, ever. Not college, not high school, not elementary school. Like, none of that. And I'm like, if I were you, I'd be broken right now. If my dad was all messed up, like, I'd be on all kinds of drugs, so. And then she reads a lot, too. So maybe you guys should talk, because it sounds like that did.
Because, like, that is me. That is me.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting. I mean, with this show, I often want to learn about my guests. Obviously, that's why you're here, but it makes me just think about, like, myself, my own experiences in my own community, and why people may behave the way they do. So normally we have this intro, and then I say, hannah, I would like to hear about the most challenging time in your life. And it seems like we kind of skipped that part. So I'll let you see where. I'll let you decide where we're going to go next with this, but the mic is yours to proceed however you see fit.
I love it. Listen, I'm an open book, and, you know, when it comes to discussing challenges, I think there's a lot that I haven't actually shared out loud and. Or with many audiences yet because I haven't found the right space to actually bring them up. But I think it's so important and powerful that you're having these conversations because it's not just, you know, the beautiful Instagram images and these milestones that you see on social media. There's a lot that people go through on the back end to get the. To get to where they are now. So thank you for doing this.
Yeah, that's, again, part of the goal here is people are suffering in silence when, if they spoke up, they would realize there's a community of people who are either going through the same thing would support them, or at least be kinder just knowing that. So. And then beyond that, showing how people like you have navigated tough situations and come out stronger on the other side. So I'll let you choose what you want to speak about, but I would love to hear just one instance in your life where you went through a challenging situation. And again, you can get as deep as you want. And it seems like we already racked up a few of them already. But if you want to pick one, if you want to pick one, go for it. And I'll just say this like, you know, any kind of loss during pregnancy is challenging. My wife and I experienced one with my son, tj being stillborn. So I didn't know that about you either. And it's. It's very. It's. I don't say it's common because then it seems like, oh, it happens everybody. But it's like, I think the more that we talk about it, the more people won't feel alone, even in that regard.
Exactly. And, you know, it was interesting when you were saying like that, one of the most challenging things. I have many challenging things, so it's hard to distill it down to one, but I would say one that was like the catalyst, it's so started the business, but it relates to the original one, which was I started my business because of burnout. And it was at that point where it was the catalyst to actually starting this, you know, this platform, starting this mission and this vision that I'm. I'm doing right now. But it took me going into the hospital to actually realize, like, this was a thing. And so fast. Or rewind. About, like, four years ago, I went into the hospital for burnout. At the time, I thought I had a kidney infection or kidney stone, something along those lines. And they couldn't figure out what was going on. So, long story short, it was my body basically shutting down because I just kept going and going and going. And this instance of burnout was something that I kept experiencing even, like, years prior in the corporate world, even back until college. I remember when I was interviewing for Goldman Sachs at the time, and I was so nervous that I'd get hives all over my body. And it was interesting because that was a point when I went into the hospital. So after that, I couldn't eat anything besides bone broth and water for three weeks. And the process of actually going and eating again was so traumatic that I ended up creating almost like a phobia around eating, phobia around going out in public, phobia around, like, speaking. And speaking was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to do because I was always nervous about getting sick. What was really interesting was that this catalyst of going through burnout was actually a mirror from everything from my past. Because growing up as a child with a father who was born in a refugee camp in the Holocaust, to being severely abused as a child, which I don't really openly share about, but I was severely abused as a child. A lot of what I have created has been internalized. So a lot of stress has been internalized. And what had happened over the course of my life was that any stressful moment, I would just internalize in my gut. And then what happened four years ago, I went to the hospital because of that, because I was internalizing all of that stress. And it took me to get to that point of not being able to literally eat besides bone broth, for me to realize, okay, I have to do something about this, because this is going to either run my life or I can overcome this. And so I chose the latter of the two. And it took so much healing and so much internal work to be able to move past that, but it was the best thing I could have ever done. Because I mean, it stopped me in my tracks four years ago.
There's a quote by, I believe it's Carl Jung. Until we make the unconscious conscious, it will control our lives and we will consider it fate. And it seems like you had that breakthrough in regards to why you, you were feeling that way and why, you know, it fueled your high performance, which is great, but the, the impact of that can be devastating. And I think a lot of people realize that too. So. So now I'm curious. In your work, you help people obviously, you know, with their, their pr, and you have another one for high net worth women. Did you also feel a calling to help people who are going through similar challenges with like burnout or like, you know, maybe some kind of like autoimmune disease or anything like that? Did you feel calling to do that as well?
It was interesting because I never openly said, hey, work with me if you've experienced burnout or went through challenges in your life. But it was interesting how when you show up as your authentic self, you just naturally attract people like that. So I was starting to attract a lot of people who had experienced burnout. They were high achievers. Maybe they went through these tough experiences in their life or business or whatever it was. And I realized I was attracting people like myself. And that was really, really interesting, you know, just seeing like the values that these women had, but also the experiences that they had as well. And I think it's something like I said too, with burnout specifically. There's so many ways that burnout comes out, you know, and the negative experiences that you have with it. Right. Physical, mental, emotional, and like, for me, it was accumulation of everything as a whole. But for some people, they don't even realize they're experiencing burnout. And I think that's the interesting thing about it. But yeah, we've naturally attracted this community of women who have come from corporate and have built their businesses, but have experienced burnout not once, but probably multiple times in their journey.
I feel like experiencing it before you were married, before you had a daughter, I don't see was beneficial. But you're ready because you know what it's like now. You know what it's like to have a kid. It's like you're just up, you're on and, you know, it's tough. So what do you do to avoid burnout now? Like, what kind of like warning signs do you see and like, what do you do to ward it off?
So when it comes to now being a mother, which I will say I've always worked with so many mothers, even when I first started my business. But now being a mother myself, wow, hats off. Hats off. Because it is just incredible to see, like, what mothers do. And, you know, especially when you're running, you know, a successful business and then you're pregnant and then you're planning for maternity leave. Like, it is so different than what, like 90% of society has to deal with being a mother and running a business. And what I will say in terms of, like, the balance between. Between. You can't see it right now, but I just bought myself a sauna that's sitting in my office right now.
Oh, nice.
And, you know, really prioritizing that time for yourself, I think is key. Even if it's five minutes a day of mindfulness or it's, you know, my 30 minutes in the sauna, you have to find those moments for yourself and have that practice, whether it's daily, weekly, whatever that is. I will say for me personally, in terms of communication and boundaries, I am so much more strict with how I communicate with people and my response times with people, because at the end of the day, I need to make sure, first off, I'm pouring into myself, pouring into my family, into my child, and then my business, my clients, my team. And that's a lot of energy output. You know, even just saying that, it's a lot of energy output. But I always make sure I start the day for me personally first before I give to others. And that's always been helpful.
So one question and then one statement. So your sauna is like a. Is that a portable one? Is that you're referring to?
Oh, yes. So I bought it off of Home Depot, the best purchase. Happy to give you the link to share with listeners. It's the best.
Yeah, I'm looking at mine over here. I got mine off of Amazon. It was like 150 bucks. And you just sit in it and de stress. Yeah, it's amazing. So I do that, like, probably too often, like three or four times a week. And then my wife just started using it too. But if you are stressed out, if you do need to relax, I mean, for 150 bucks, like, that's. That's not a bad investment if you got it. But yeah, so no, that's smart. Like, I think there are things we can do that might seem like a sacrifice. Even, like, buying that wasn't cheap. I can tell. Like, you know, like, but it's like, what are you giving up by not taking care of yourself? You know, and again, like, doesn't matter if you're a new mom or not. We all need to recover. And there's a selfishness that goes into it. Like, I'll, I'll explain. Before we hopped on just now, there are a few, like, emails I had to respond to, and I was like, I want to get back to it, but it's like, I also want to take a little break. I don't want to be talking all day and like, so on and so forth. So someone's going to have to wait. And it's not always comfortable, but I think especially as a high achiever, you're always like, go, go, go, go, go. But it's like, you can't be the best version of yourself if you're under recovered. And I think people understand if you say something like, hey, dude, like, if I respond to this email now, like, it ain't going to end up too well for me, you know, going forward. So putting those, those guardrails up is important, but have you had to, like, retrain your network or your team or anything like that to not expect, you know, the immediate, like, turnaround time or things like that?
Well, when it comes to clients, absolutely. I've set the expectation. These are my response times. Same with the team. So I have someone on my team, we call her the godfather of the calendar. She's the godfather of me and tells me what I can and cannot do with my own calendar. And I think that's really important. You know, we've seen set really clear boundaries as a team with how we communicate with one another. And I think that's ingrained in our culture, you know, at the end of the day. And same thing with clients, especially coming from the corporate world where there are no boundaries. You know, people are working at all times of the day, the night, and it can be easy to get caught in that hamster wheel. But, you know, my core ethos and everything that we are doing and teaching with our brands is about redefining the way that we live and work. And, you know, you hear about, like, balance with your life and work. And I don't like the word balance. I think it's more of an integration. There's a flow to it. It's knowing how to dance between both worlds and knowing how to integrate both worlds together. And that's sometimes hard and, you know, sometimes one area is going to get more than the other, and that's okay. But I think too is just getting very clear on how you communicate. And even for me, like, small things that I do, like when my text messages, like you will not find me responding to my text messages right away. I am sorry. I have dedicated time where I respond back and that is, that is intentional because if you live your life in a react state, you are always going to be in this reactive energy and that's not productive to the other person, but also not productive for yourself too.
Yeah, I actually stopped texting during the day just because I got stuff to do. Like, I just do. Like you do as well. And even when I do reply, I'll do it from my computer as opposed to my phone. And that's just a lot easier too because like, I don't know, like, maybe I'm getting old, maybe that's what it is. But it's just like, yeah, it's, it's, it's not my, not my zone. But I'm just curious because like, I'm guessing you might have gone to college, you know, here we are now. But it seems like you were self taught in a few ways to understand yourself and how you want to engage with the world. So I'm wondering if you can share what that journey was like as well.
Ooh. So this definitely goes back to even just the childhood and growing up in a very disadvantaged home, like I said, getting lost in books. This is like my first memory of this. But I remember even in high school I would read all of these entrepreneurial stories, you know, about like their life. And I was, I was always so fascinated around how people would think and what their mindset looked like and how do they actually get to that point in their business or career. And I was fascinated by that. And I remember I took all of the business classes in high school at the time. And that was at that point where I knew I wanted to become a businesswoman. I didn't know what that meant. I thought it was corporate America, maybe entrepreneurs, entrepreneurial. And then it started to shift in college when I realized, you know what, I actually have a lot to give here. And I, you know, I've been working since I was 14 years old. You know, I've been working. I was always a hustler, even as a child too. But even growing up and now getting into college and then corporate career as well. I was always an avid learner because I always knew. And even now, like I always known even now there's so much to learn. Like we all have so much to learn too. So just humbling yourself and also removing the ego to know that like you're not gonna know everything. You can always learn from Someone. And not just someone who makes more money than you. I think that's like the biggest misconception. A lot of people think that you have to have more notoriety or success than someone to learn. But that's actually, you know, feedback that I took from Richard Branson when I went to Necker island, where he even said that just like taking note from people who are in the room, you know, no matter what level they're at, no other what, you know, background they're at. And I think that's just something that I've always taken, even since childhood to really just learn, evolve and grow and, and I've always applied that to everything that I've done along the way.
I feel like Richard Branson has to learn from people who have less money than him because there aren't too many people have more. So he probably found that out the hard way. But let's, let's talk about parenthood, because on my end, I consider myself to be a high achiever. I got decent grades in school. When I was trying to, I did really well. But when I didn't feel like trying, I was like, okay, whatever, I'll just pass the class. But. But now with my kids, I'm like, we're doing their homework. And I'm like, why, why don't you get this? You know, so it's like, I'm like getting frustrated with like a 5 year old for not knowing, like, you know, multiplication and stuff like that. So have you like, mentally prepared yourself for how you're going to, you know, be a mom? You know, when you're such a high performer and like, you have this little kid who's like, how do I tie my shoes? And it takes them more than once to get it done. Like, what, what do you, what are your thoughts on that?
It's so interesting because, you know, well, my baby can't sit up yet, so she's very little with what her options are right now.
Why can't she sit up yet? What's the problem?
Sit up yet. Come on. But what I will say it's interesting because I thought I had this feeling and this belief before I became a mom. Actually, it was more of a fear that I wasn't going to be an emotional mother. And that was something that I struggled with for a while because even my husband would joke, you know, this is the first time I've seen you cry in like 11 years. I'm like, that sentence stood out to me so much and, you know, it.
Really came to me, wait, let's Stop here. So just to be clear, so you and your husband, you're together for 11 years. No tears, nothing. No TV shows, no movies, no stub your toe, nothing.
I've always been a very hold it together type of person. But again, this comes from childhood because it was one of those things where it was a survival mechanism, you know, like, if I show my emotions to my father, who was very abusive at the time, it could result in it being worse than what it was. So I, like, almost like, trained myself to, you know, eliminate that, which is really interesting and also played out in my birth, too. That's a whole other conversation. But when it comes to that, yeah, I never really showed my emotion because I never wanted to allow people to come that close where they could see the emotions that I had. And so I used to suffer in silence, which, again, like, goes back to the whole burnout situation, you know, so we're gonna.
We're gonna break that generational curse here. And. And how are you gonna show up for your daughter? Let's see. Let's. Let's compare notes.
So how am I gonna show up for my daughter? I think the biggest thing is when it comes to education, I thought it was gonna be, well, number one, had the fear around being an emotional mom, which turns out I do cry. I do. And I think she brought that out. She allowed me to heal myself. But what I will say when it comes to education, that was another thing that I thought I was going to be this very. Even though she's very little, but, like, very rigid and structured and, you know, very type A, you have to go to college and do xyz. And I think I've come to the point now also being an entrepreneur about, like, what possibility exists out there. And I talked to my husband about this. But if my daughter decided that she didn't want to go to college, I would actually be okay with that. If she told me that she wanted to start a business, I would actually be 100% full force. And like, yes, I will support you. And because I love this lifestyle, so I'm very mindful of not pushing this and being mindful of that. But I think also I am definitely going to be moving to. Into parenthood as she grows up with the idea that I want my daughter to also make the mistakes and want her to learn against those mistakes as well, you know, And I think that's a hard balance because you want to protect your child, but you also want them to learn and grow on their own.
It's. It's tough. I mean even doing my, their homework with my kids, I'm like, they're supposed to get some wrong like, you know what I mean? Like, but I'm like, no, let's keep on working on it. Like it's like, no, like that's, that's part of the, the journey and maybe it's my ego getting in the way of doing that. But the point about college and, and you know, our children on my end, I'd be okay if my kids didn't go to school too. But I do want them to have the college like experience. So this is my thought. I want them to like live in a college town, even live with college kids in like a house or whatever. But while their friends are at school, they're like taking online courses or watching YouTube videos, if YouTube exists then, and just building a business. So they're still like, you know, they're getting, you know, used to this kind of community, this culture. They're not going to be like, you know, like antisocial or anything like that. But if we can save x thousand dollars, you can just get started, go for it. You know what I mean? I think that's the way things are going to go going forward.
Yeah, I think it's interesting though, especially with Gen Z, you know, being able to make an enormous amount of money online just on YouTube and just TikTok and things like that. It's just, it's really interesting to see how they are adapting to this new, this new way. You know.
I've asked this question before too, but what is enough for you? Like when will you stop and say, you know what, I'm good, like I don't need to like start another business or even like scale that much. Like, you know, I got like this much money, recurring revenue. I can not work and still bring in this much money from my assets. Like what do you see a finish line or are you like, no, I'm just going to hustle till it's over?
No. I would think for me personally it's interesting because my best friend asked me this because I've always been the person that has chased the milestones and the accolades and, and which is great, has resulted me to have the success that I do now, but it's also a double edged sword as well because to your point, at what point is enough? And it was interesting because I just came home from San Diego last week and on the plane I kept writing out like my big milestones I want to hit next. And I was thinking to myself, like, well, why do I want to hit those things? Like, why is it important to me? I think for me in this next season of what I want to do, what I want to create the lifestyle I want to have. You know, I want more children. I love being a mom. I love being a business owner, but I love being a mom. I love being present to my baby. And for me, I want to have life changing money that is not only going to impact myself, but also my family and my kids. And when I think about the long term of what I'm doing, will I ever not have something I'm working on? Probably not, because I'm just always interested in doing other things and just being creative. But when I think about the long term, philanthropy, probably the biggest thing that I want to work towards. And I know for me to get to that point where I have that type of money, to be able to give that freely, I know I need to have a really big fat exit. And so for me, that is my next chapter. That is a thing when I hit that exit in my business, whether it's in a year, five years, although we're pacing towards five years, I know that that's A, going to set us up for success financially, but B, allows me to step into the next chapter, which is author, speaker, philanthropist. Like, that is my end game. Myself.
Yeah, my, my goal is to have a family office. And that's, that's like 100 million or so. So I'm not there yet, but. But okay, yeah, yeah, no, I'm making progress. But the last thing I want to ask you is this, like, do you ever have a challenge with shutting down? Because on my end, I just have ideas that pop into my head all the time. And even at like, I'll wake up in the middle of the night for whatever reason, all of a sudden, like, I have all these ideas and I have to like jot them down. And then sometimes I stay up because like, my mind is churning and it's not like anxiety. Like I used to have anxiety. That's why I used to like drink so much. I would like. Or they're probably related, but you know, I would be like, not happy. When I woke up in the middle of the night, like, oh, crap, I have to like face the world now I'm like pumped up and excited. But it's like that takes a toll on you too, because I'm like, yo, I gotta go work out tomorrow. Like, I need to recover or this won't go well. So does that happen to you as well? Where like you just always have ideas or what?
Oh my goodness. All the time. My husband's like, when are you ever going to stop? It's so bad. But you know, I think being an entrepreneur, a serial entrepreneur, like we are like we are always opportunists, we're always think about, okay, this is an opportunity and it's great. But I've also had to come to the realization and humble myself that just because something is an opportunity doesn't mean that you have to act on it. Doesn't mean you need to create a business around it and monetize it. I think that's something that I've had to learn myself. What I will say when it comes to shutting off, it is really hard. I'm not going to lie. I am not perfect. It is probably the hardest thing that I have had to work on as a business owner because even for me, I just took a 10ish week mat leave. Was I off the entire time? Absolutely not. Did I stop client work? Yes. But if you were to compare that to what society thinks and or deems a mat leave, it's completely shutting off being with your baby and no one else. And to me it just never was in alignment. So I think to your point, no. But what I will say though is having those practices and rituals in your life that you do daily, like, you know, after this, I'm going in my sauna, you know, doing those things to again, nurture yourself and give your mind a break is so important as a founder and also surrounding yourself with other people that embrace that too. Like for me, I've been in the masterminds and the groups that are very, you know, go, go, go, hustle next milestone. Which is great. But I really appreciate like the freedom component. So I like to be around people who are thinking, okay, how can I make the most amount of money working the least amount of hours? So I'm like, great. How do we get creative in that way?
So yeah, no, I think we're aligned there. So in parting, I'll give you two options. One is, is there a favorite quote you would like to share? The other is just we'll say general advice to anyone who is going through a similar situation where they're just like, you know, go, go, go. But they need to just take a step back before they burn out.
Well, I'll just, I'll do both very fast. I love Everything is Figureoutable by Marie Forleo. That is something that just a mindset that I've always adopted even in the beginning of my business journey, I've always been very solution driven. Highly recommend thinking in that way. When it comes to being able to detach to them, maybe shifting your business or shifting your mindset, it really is having that deep intuition. And part of this also is just humbling yourself and getting very clear with yourself. And one way you can do this is taking a look at where do you have resistance in your body, in your mind when it comes to the work that you're doing, how you're operating, whatever it is, because usually the resistance is showing you what you should and should not be doing. But as founders, you need to have the intuition, right to first acknowledge that you're out of alignment. Because when you're out of alignment, you're going to steer yourself so far from where you're supposed to be going. So that's just my advice because you're going to get out of alignment not once, but probably 10 times in your journey. But you have to be able to bring yourself back to alignment every single time.
Excellent advice. And for people who want to learn more about you and your sage advice, what's the best way to do so?
I am over on Instagram Hannah M. Nieves. We have the podcast Agent House Podcast. Come send me a dm. I will probably voice memo you back.
Awesome. Thanks, Anna. Appreciate it.
Thanks.
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