The Heal Hive | Is BVT For Me? | A Live Q+A About Bee Venom Therapy With Our Founder, Brooke Geahan

Transcript of a 2020 live Zoom Q&A by Brooke Geahan (founder of The Heal Hive) introducing bee venom therapy (BVT) and The Heal Hive's digital academy. Brooke recounts her severe chronic Lyme disease history, recovery using bee venom therapy, and explains BVT's mechanisms (notably melittin, biofilm disruption, anti‑inflammatory and mast‑cell effects). She outlines the Heal Hive program (12‑week BVT prep, testing, Sting Club), safety/testing requirements, who the program is for, common roadblocks in BVT, and answers live attendee questions.
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Just admitting. Everyone. Give me a second. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. Hi. Hi. Just so you guys know, you guys are all going to be muted, and then when we have some. Or mute yourselves, if you know how to use this. And then when we have some time at the end, you can ask me questions independently. But I'm so glad to have you all here. Welcome. So everyone who's joining us, please mute yourselves. And then, as time allows, we will answer questions. Who's the big we? I will answer your questions. So glad to have you all here. I'm just admitting a lot of people. Give me one second. To do. So. Let's see. More people are coming in. One second. Okay. Hi. Hi, everyone. I see some familiar faces here. Whoever is on here, please make sure to mute your microphone or it can create some interference. And then, as time allows, we will. We will. I will. I usually am doing webinars with other people. We will answer questions. For those of you that are familiar with Zoom, you'll see that there's a chat box on the bottom. I will not be using that during this. This talk that it can really basically become quite. It can interrupt us and just become really confusing. But okay, a few more people to admit, and then we'll get going. Okay, so let me start off by saying that. Welcome. So the Heal Hive you all have probably very familiar with my story and what I went through and my road to health. But in a nutshell, basically, I became very sick with Lyme. I became sick with Babesia, Bartonella, and I also had chronic Epstein Barr virus that was probably in dormancy when I was much younger, and it became chronic when I got sick. I went through nearly everything you can go through for dealing with Lyme. I did ozone and IVIG and LDI and hyperbaric oxygen and months of oral antibiotics and IV antibiotics and IV therapy and herbals and protocols. Nothing worked. I became broke, and at the kind of the end of my rope, I discovered bee venom therapy from a nurse who was actually. Who had used it in the clinic to basically heal from her own really, really bad Lyme disease. And she taught me how to sting. And I quickly started feeling the effects. And through that, I also learned what could be my roadblocks. And I learned how to rehab my gut, rehab my sleep patterns. I understood what went into dealing with not just getting at the pathogenic infections, but also what it took to actually rehab my body from all of the damage that had been done. And it was extensive. And I really went into quite a autoimmune place in Terms of I came down at my worst. I was positive for fibromyalgia, positive for rheumatoid arthritis, positive for celiac, positive for pernicious anemia, and positive for Hashimoto's. Today, I am only positive for pernicious anemia. It is one of those autoimmune diseases that is irreversible and for celiac. But the rest I am very, you know, as anyone can see who follows my Instagram, I am full of vibrancy, full of life. I have not tested positive for Lyme for over, I think, three and a half years now, nor positive for Babesia or Barnella. And there's no trace of Epstein Barr virus in my body. Why did I start Heal hive? I started Heal HIVE because realized as I had healed, that there was a need for people to not understand just fee venom therapy, but also understand everything that has to go into healing the full body from a 360 degree point of view, both mentally, spiritually, and with, you know, in terms of creating good, healthy habits to continued health while you're doing bee venom therapy. I also had run into so many roadblocks along my way that I realized I wanted to create a system that, you know, there's no way to completely eliminate roadblocks, they will happen in certain people. But to be able to create a system that when you find yourself at a roadblock, you're able to quickly hop over it and get to the other side. And I see a lot of people here have already been doing bee venom therapy for quite a long time, and they have found themselves at impasse, whether that's six months to 12 months to 18 months. And it can be really disappointing because many times with bee venom therapy, you'll find that if you start really quickly, without really prepping yourself, you'll find yourself feeling better because of that incredible aspects within the actual bee venom. But then you find yourself at these roadblocks that are insurmountable if you do not have the right support and do not have the right structure and the right system. So I wanted to create a foolproof system that anyone could follow. Especially because most of you that are dealing with chronic illness have chronic brain fog, chronic fatigue, are overwhelmed. And many times you'll do your research, you'll put the time in, you'll empower yourself, and then you'll find yourself just forgetting that one element that can make a huge difference in how successful you are. Our mission at the helohive is to save you money. And there are options out there for sure. For, you know, how to use bee venom therapy. And they're free and they're, they're people, some great people on there that are, you know, curating, you know, answers and answering your questions about it. And we always recommend for anyone to explore those, if you're interested. But we are not that. We are much more hand holding. We are a concierge service. I don't just work alone. I have a full staff. We have a medical officer. She is an ER nurse that literally is also someone that you can call up if you have an emergency and speak to her, which is just an invaluable service. We also have a medical doctor, actually a very well known Lyme doctor that is part of our services that should you need a doctor to be able to run your test to create a prescription for you that you need, you can work with them through us. And then we also have a host of practitioners from nutrition to like grief therapy to also mental health, and they are there to help guide you. So I don't do it alone. I don't think anyone can heal in a vacuum. I sure didn't. I needed a team of experts to work with me. And when I say we're here to save you money, it's because I went broke with Lyme disease and I went to the darkest places to where I had a few thousand dollars in my bank account and that was it. I do not come from a wealthy family. And if you've read my story, you might have read or heard me talk about in podcasts that I was literally living in my friend's walk in closet and that's how broke and homeless I became. So we want to save you money because of the fact that, you know, finding these practitioners, finding a team can be exhausting. You can actually waste a lot of money. There's a lot of pseudoscience out there. There's a lot of people that, you know, they might have the right intentions, but they definitely don't have the right science behind them. And it can just cost you money in the long run. So we try and make it foolproof. We try and take away any of the roadblocks that can, you know, rear their ugly heads. And beyond that, we are firmly based in science. So what does that mean? That means that we test everything. We are not the right program for you if you do not want to do comprehensive testing. And many of you will be raising your hands up mentally right now saying, well, wait a second, I've seen four years of Lyme doctors, I've seen the Best. I've seen all the big names. I've been comprehensively tested. Well, if you go to our Instagram, if you go to our website, you'll see so many people who have gone through the program. If you follow them, they'll say, you have never been tested like the Heal Hive test you. That is for sure. Why do I say this? Because I wasn't tested properly. And even when I was tested, what is fascinating that we see all the time at the Heal Hive is that many of our clients, myself included, tested positive for certain things that doctors just did not catch. They get overwhelmed. They're trying to juggle hundreds of clients. You know, there just wasn't that individualized support and that attention. And that sucks, because when you're paying some of these Lyme Doctors and specialists $1,000 an hour or spending thousands of dollars at their clinic, you are expecting, as you should, that they are going through your lab test with a fine tooth comb. As we see over and over, that just simply does not happen. And so at the Heal Hive, what we do guarantee is that we, whatever's going on in your body, we are going to figure it out and we are going to address it. We also make sure that if there's something that is outside of our wheelhouse, that we ensure that you have the right support to find that person outside of. So whether it's an endocrinologist or whether you need to explore your gut more with a good gastroenterologist, we have a network of practitioners that we work with. So what is bvt? Can I have a show of hands of people who are. Are really, literally confused about what it is? Is anyone here confused? Okay, I see one. Shannon. Hi, Shannon. So what is bvt? So bee venom therapy is part of apitherapy. Apitherapy is a term for using any part of the honeybee, any part of the hive to heal. So honeybees have something called. They can create something called propolis, which is from resin from trees. That is antifungal, antivirusidal, sorry, virucidal, antiviral and antibacter. It's a wonderful addition. Many of you probably use it. Beekeepers Naturals has a famous spray. There's also, as we know, medicinal honey, manuka honey. There are stingless honeybees that also have really, really powerful medicinal honey. And honey on its own does have antibacterial qualities. And then there's bee pollen and there's royal jelly. And then there's also bee venom. So bee venom itself is a really, really interesting, very, very Complex compound of enzymes and peptides. One of these enzymes is called melittin. Melittin has this amazing property in which it attacks and creates these microscopic holes in the phospholipid layer of cells. So every single cell has a phospholipid layer. What does that mean? Phospholipids are basically. Think about them as a fancy term for fat cells, right? So these, you know, every. The inner workings of every cell has a layer of fat cells. To keep what's inside not leaking out to the outside, Melittin pokes these microscopic holes in phospholipid layers. That sounds kind of dangerous, right? You don't want things poking, you know, little pokes into all your cells. Why is that not dangerous for us? Because in using bee venom therapy as we do, we use small amounts, first of all. Second of all, what we have found and what science shows is that pathogenic viruses, pathogenic bacteria, cancer cells, and rogue mast cells all have irregular cell walls. So, like, think about a rogue mast cell that's taken in too much histamine. Kind of like a balloon that's been over overblown, right? Like with air, it becomes much more sensitive. You know, a breeze can even pop it. Think about these irregular cell walls as being much less effective of being able to keep their innards in. So Melittin basically pokes these microscopic holes in them, and they're not able to resist this poking. And so the innards of the cell basically leak out and the cell dies. This is how Melittin, which is a part of what's in bee venom, is effective in actually going after these pathogenic infections. And this is how it actually goes after Lyme, Borrelia viruses and bacteria do not have a natural way of counteracting this leakage. They just have never, through history, built up defenses like they do. What we do know is that with antibiotics, with certain antivirals, viruses and bacteria can create these defenses against herbal protocols. We all, most of you guys are here are very familiar with the fact that antibiotics don't work many times they don't work when infections are chronic. And you also create biofilms. Another thing about Melittin is that it can actually break apart biofilms. So biofilms are these bacterial, like, though they're not bacteria, these bacterial, like, films that surround bacteria that keep bacteria healthy and protected from assaults. So when you have too much biofilm, at my worst, I would actually be hooked up to an iv. They'd have to clean out my line once in a while because there'd be biofilms that would have actually plugged up my line. My blood was so filled with biofilms when I was at my worst, it was crazy. So biofilms are a big issue with people that if you have been on long term antibiotics and you're not getting anywhere herbals, many times it's not that even the antibiotics and the herbals do not have some effect is that they can't even get to the bacteria because you just have so much biofilm that has been produced. So the biofilms are actually broken up by melittin. That is one aspect. There's also other aspects to bee venom. There's aspects that are anti inflammatory, there's aspects that are mast cell degranulators. So so much that we see with people, and I myself included, is when these pathogenic infections have gone on for a long time, we have a very, very imbalanced way of handling histamines. And most of us have gone into either mast cell disorder or mast cell dysbiosis. So you know anyone here who has mounting food allergies, mounting sensitivity to environmental assaults like molds, like pollen, like, you know, even picking up a new package and opening up the plastic can cause some people massive distress to sensitivity to, you know, int a new supplement or herb. Those are all aspects of mast cells that have basically, I call them mast cells gone wild. And the problem is, is that most of the, not most, all of the ways besides bee venom that we handle mast cell issues is by putting a band aid on it. There's two ways of band aiding mast cell disorder. One is moving into basically a bubble. Many people, as you know, if you've been chronically ill for a long time, move to Joshua Tree, move to the desert to protect themselves. They just keep their clothes, their furniture, and just keep moving houses. And each house they just are. They always find mold, they're always sensitive. Other people, you know, take chromolin. They take, they see mast cell disorder specialists and they keep taking, mounting antihistamines and some work for a while and then they stop working, right? And it's just this constant effect of taking one, having some relief and then taking another. But it doesn't matter because you, your sensitivity just mounts and mounts and mounts. And that's because these pathogenic infections, mast cell disorder. And so you're always in at this loss, right? You're always band aiding mast cell issues while you're trying to get at the pathogenic infections. But the more that you try and get the pathogenic infections, the More that the mast cell disorder gets worse and that sensitivity rises and you have more food allergies. And it just becomes a domino where the doctors are literally throwing spaghetti at the wall hoping that something sticks. And we're trying to take the throwing of the spaghetti off the wall and to get you to be able to handle spaghetti again. Right. That is our purpose at the heel hive. So with bee venom therapy, you have incredible array of enzymes and peptides. Not all of them, they even know what they do. But most of the ones that we are focusing on are the ones that have anti inflammatory effects, have mast cell degranulating effects. And it's really the Melittin, which is our number one MVP in terms of bee venom therapy. So where does one get the bees? You can order bees. Many people become beekeepers. That is the easiest part. What are the statistics for treatment? Well, that's really hard. So a lot of you ask, like, how will I know this will work? And why don't many people, why don't many doctors use this? All I can say for that is who here is familiar with Dr. Klinghardt? Who here knows that he wrote a paper about 15 years ago, how bee venom therapy cured his own Lyme disease. Who here knows that he's on video saying that bee venom therapy is the only thing that cured his Lyme disease and cured his family's Lyme disease. More few. Who here has been to his clinic or knows people that have been told, bee venom therapy, you're gonna have to wait a year or two for it to be ready. Well, I hear it a lot. Realize that bee venom therapy is empowering each patient to take healing into their own hands. That is something that doctors are not trained to do, just on a philosophical basis. First of all, they don't trust you. Second of all, there's no benefit for them. Even though we have a service that we charge for. Comparing to what doctors can charge for and comparing to the domino effect of having people who are chronically ill be in a situation that they're constantly open to having spaghetti be thrown at the wall. These doctors. There's a Pavlovian response, right, to just being sure of what you've been taught and wanting to throw spaghetti at the wall at your patients to see what sticks. Bee venom is a long therapy. It is not overnight. Doctors do not also. They're not taught to have patience. There are very. I'm not talking about patience as in you, but patients with the c. They are not taught to work on modalities that take One or two years. Right. That is not part of their schooling. If you've spoken to any doctors at length in an open forum about how they're taught in medical school or nurses, it's all about treating an acute issue in a patient. They're never taught to really treat chronic issues. And with bee venom, Bee venom is treating a chronic issue in a very long form way. That is what helps it work. Why? Because we know with at least blind Borrelia and many of these pathogenic viruses that also stay with dormancy, you know, ebv, herpes, et cetera, is that they take. They can hide in your bone. Borrelia is known and has been excised in bodies. It has been seen to be hiding in bone for years. For people that have shown that they are Lyme free, it can hide in brain matter, it can hide in your spinal fluid, and it can hide in your lymph nodes. So you could look on a blood serum test that you have no Lyme that is at all apparent in your blood serum. But if they were to, you know, if you were to die and they were to, you know, take body tissue, they could find active Lyme bacteria all throughout your body. Why does this affect you? Because your body has innate wisdom. Your immune system knows that the bacteria is still there. What happens? It's still creating an imbalance in your system. It's still creating a system that is creating mast cell disorder, mounting autoimmunity. The body knows the bacteria is still in your bone. The body knows the bacteria still in your brain. Just because it's not active in your blood serum does not mean that it's not causing incredibly long form destruction. Right. So with bee venom, we start in small amounts. Why? Because first of all, most of you have mast cell issues. You're not going to be able to do ten stings at once. I absolutely, vehemently have issues with all other ways of people besides Hoshino method. All the ways people do bee venom therapy, I think that they ramp up too fast, it causes distress. And one of our main tenants at the heel hive is functionality over dysfunction. Our aim is that you never go backwards. You're never on the Sisyphean task of rolling the ball up the mountain and then falling backwards. We want you to go slower, but we want you to actually make it up to the apex of the mountain. You know, step by step by step. We're very systematized. We want to take it from rushing and then falling, rushing then falling, which has been, if you're here and you're listening to me, your situation, some of you guys for months, most of you for years. So we take that out of the equation and we go slower. We go slower also because these mast cells are nothing to play with. They can cause massive dysfunction. And the more that you have dysfunction, the more you have mast cells that are degranulating too fast, the more you're going to have more gut distress, not take in as much nutrients, have more issues that get in the way of you taking care of your body in a 360 degree way, from being able to walk, from being able to get sunshine and vitamin D, etc. Etc. We do not want you to be further bedridden. And that happens a lot. And I can see some nodding here from people that happens a lot when you go too fast. There is this false rumor on Internet, on the Internet, on these Facebook forums that if you sting slow, you will get anaphylaxis. Right. That is first of all massively false. And why? Because the more that one takes in a venom, the more you have a chance of anaphylaxis. True, but it's not about the taking in of venom. It is the fact that most people with chronic Lyme, chronic tick borne diseases have mast cell disorder. So what has happened, I believe is that people have seen people ramp up in stings and then get to a point where the mast cells are degranulating so fast they go into distress because they're living in high mold, they are living with certain probably autoimmune diseases that have not been caught, they're not taking in the right anti inflammatory diet, they're not working on their gut, so they stop and then they feel worse. Right, because they're not getting the anti inflammatory effects, they're not getting the bringing down of the infection in their blood and then they restart. When they restart, they can potentially go into a state of mast cells degranulating in an extent that they go into anaphylaxis. I think that people, well meaning, have forgotten that you have to prepare the body to ensure that you don't ramp up too fast. And so you don't get the body in this place of distress where the mast cells degranulate too much to get into this place. We have found and we have spoken to many medical professionals, MD and nurses and ER. You know, we have an ER nurse on staff about this phenomenon of this rumor going around that by ramping up fast you actually will decrease your anaphylaxis. That is blatantly untrue. Medically, scientifically, and in fact, you're going to increase anaphylaxis. So at the Heal Hive, we start people slow. Everyone is individual here. We don't. Even though we all learn in a group because, you know, we like to talk, we always talk about, you know, these are, these are, these are places of, these are topics of interest for everyone. And we're all going through, you know, a similar situation. We can all learn from each other. You all are still treated as individuals. No one here is living in the same environment. Just physically, the microbes internally and your external microbes, none of you guys are the same. So some people are going to be able to ramp up faster. Some people are going to be, you know, going a little bit slower. But we have never had people not be successful because they take their time. We've only had people become unsuccessful when they feel that they have to compare themselves to others and when they feel that they are under pressure from what they've learned on the Internet and to heal fast. It is not that fast. Now you are going to say to me, right? I can just imagine your brains are going, well, if it takes so long, do I really have it within me to, you know, to commit to a two to three year protocol? What we do at the Heal Hive when we do, when we bring you guys through the three months of BVT prep is I don't know who here has seen the testimonials in the last few days of people saying, I haven't begun stinging yet, but I feel 50% better. I haven't begun stinging yet, but I, oh my God, this is life changing. And I've tried everything for the last five years and in three months I feel like, you know, night and day. And that is because we've created a system beyond the bee venom to actually make sure that any of these type of roadblocks, environmental and internal, that can get in the way we address before you start stinging, so that it takes all of the guesswork before you start stinging of how you are going to treat your body. And, and why do we create a system? Because it ensures that when you begin stinging, you don't have to worry about, oh, my God, is it the bees? Is it my environment? Is it my gut? You just know that if you start to have some dysfunctionality, you're probably ramping up too fast and we slow you back down. That is how we work. I mean, it's much more complicated than that, but that is kind of the system of how we work. And we take you through each of these aspects. So that any of the roadblocks we've seen with now we have over 300 clients. And what I've seen in myself is that we make sure that we address each and everything in a group setting that can possibly, you know, become that roadblock for you in the future or has been your roadblock in the past. So how quickly do people feel results? We know through our program that by the end of BVT prep, if you followed along and been a very good student, you will already feel much better. Then what happens with bee venom? I myself have found that most of our clients, if they start slow, start to feel the effects usually within three months, where they can say significantly, wow, this is like really even doubly life changing. I feel it. We have other clients that have literally had situations where they've had a chronic migraine for five years, and within their first two weeks of stinging, it goes away and doesn't seem to come back. So everyone, again is individual. It depends on where your body is and how long you've been sick. But what we try and do our best and to ensure is that when we do bvt, that we get everyone by the time they graduate and they start stinging in the same place as much as possible. So what does that mean? That means that you will sting with others. You will have the support moving forward, even after VVT prep. And hopefully you will see the. Because we are very, very, very, very bullish about this. We never want you to lose functionality. We never want you to actually feel like you're going backwards, only forwards. And this is really important why? Because mentally you're already exhausted. Mentally, you're already broken. Mentally, you've already taken two steps forward and then taken four steps back. We want to prevent this because this is a journey and we want to make sure that you guys feel that you're actually going up the mountain, not falling backwards. And, you know, each time you fall backwards can really mentally make you exhausted even more and can really be depressing and can really make you feel like you want to give up. You're already working so hard just to keep yourselves just steady and just to keep yourselves alive. And all you need is to find yourselves in dysfunction and then you just want to give up. And, you know, I was very, very suicidal at my worst. And I know that, you know, the hormonal disruption that the pathogens bring, the mast cell disorder, the mounting food allergies, the inability to socialize, that, you know, the feeling of complete, you know, social isolation is just. It takes truly a herculean mental strength to wake up the next day and just keep trying again. And we want to give you the strength by ensuring that you never fall backwards and you never hit those roadblocks, because they can actually cause you to stop bee venom therapy, which I know works, and we do not want that. And one of the reasons we are here and one of the reasons I started Heal Hive is because I was watching. I was fascinated in a, you know, not in a pleasant way, but I was fascinated that there were so many thousands of people on these Facebook sites, but very few people were actually truly, you know, out of 3,000 people, there was 30, 20, 10, reporting that they had actually found full success, which I was frustrated by because I knew that if you do it correctly, everyone can be successful with it. There's no one that it won't work for. So that's why I wanted to create a system, and I wanted to create a system that had that support with both our community and with, you know, a myriad of vetted practitioners that, you know, where I am weak in terms of knowledge, they are strong. And we all work together for the common good of getting all of you guys healthy. So one of the big questions that we got in was if bee venom is the only thing out there that eradicates Lyme, then why isn't everyone doing it? I kind of talked about this before, hinted at, you know, how doctors are not necessarily taught to work on chronic conditions or taught to work on acute conditions, but also, you know, it. It all has to do with funding. We know that Lyme disease is chronically underfunded to begin with compared to most other diseases. So you take a chronically underfunded disease and then you bring in a holistic modality, and people will say, well, you know, if it works so well, why isn't it better funded? Let's talk about probiotics, right? And I always like to use this example. So probiotics are now a multi billion dollar industry. In just two decades, even less than two decades back in the 70s, we had all of our little grandmas from, you know, overseas. You know, we had ancient wisdom. We had, you know, I have some Russian ancestry. I had my Russian grandparents, you know, feeding me sauerkraut, telling me it was good for my body. I had no idea, my parents had no idea that it was because of something called probiotics. And we had a microbiome. It was ancient wisdom that was passed along and that we all just said, okay, okay, grandma. Like, I'll eat my sauerkraut, I'll take my probiotics. But we didn't even call them probiotics then. Now it's a billion dollar industry because now science has caught up and we now realize just how effective it is and how much is going on microscopically in our body that we don't even have an idea about. So the way I think about bee venom therapy is the way that you can think about probiotics. First of all, there's actually so much research into the actual elements of bee venom, it takes a quick Google search to see the antiviral aspects. It actually eradicates hiv. If you're worried about it eradicating your viruses, understand that HIV is one of the most complex viruses out there. Eradicates HIV in studies, it eradicates Lyme Borrelia better. The eve sapie that there's a researcher who compared bee venom with multiple antibiotics and herbal protocols and saw the bee venom outperformed in terms of both biofilm busting as well as getting out. The bacteria outperformed antibiotics and herbal protocols. Beyond, above and beyond. It's like it wasn't even a fair fight. So we have tests out there. There is research, there's research about the fertility supporting aspects to bee venom. There's research into the mast cell degranulating, there's aspects into the chemotherapeutic. Many of the big pharmaceutical companies are actively trying to extract these certain aspects of bee venom. The anti inflammatory, the antiviral, the neurogenic support. It also helps with anti myelation. It helps with basically when your nerves basically fall apart, helps the nerves actually regenerate. So we know that it has all these wonderful qualities and big pharma is actually exploring them. Why isn't bee pharma. That's a good word, Big pharma, just like patenting bee venom because they can't, because it's actually against the law. So they have to look at and localize each of these aspects of bee venom and try and figure out ways to change the aspect of the bee venom to nanoparticleize it, which is one of the things that they're doing so that they can patent it. So beyond actually most of the stuff that you've been sold and most of the stuff you've tried, bee venom is, actually has way more research put into it than any of the other modalities. It's just not used by doctors because of what I talked about previously is that it's long term. They don't have Structures built for working with patients long term like that, in a way that would work with bee venom. And second of all, they're not taught to work with in a chronic, you know, in a long term fashion, but they're, they're taught to teach the tip to fix things in an acute fashion. You know, put the band aid on, slap it, you know, slap it on and give you a supplement, give you a pill. And they're expecting you to be better in a month. I have a post that I've shared before on Instagram in which when I first got diagnosed with Lyme and Babesia and Bartonella, I had just discovered Instagram. It just come up and, and I think it was my third post. It's still on there. You guys can scroll down if anyone is curious. And I write, I just got diagnosed. My doctor says it's going to be a month before I feel better. So sad to like not be able to work for a month, but I'll take this as like my vacation. It was something crazy. Like I literally was like, great, I'll be cured in a month. And they were, they were telling me we're going to cure all of this in 30 days. And you know this at the moment I was seeing a well known, quote, well known Lyme doctor in New York City. So these Lyme doctors are still mentally thinking that things, you know, years of damage can be fixed in 30 days. We know that that's not possible. All you guys are here because you're proving that's not possible. So what I love about bee venom therapy is that, yes, it takes time, but most of you will have already found, using our system results and already feeling so much better. And then by the time you begin bee venom, you are going to get, you're going to be in the right place to really slowly, slowly work at it to the point that you start forgetting that six months ago you had 30 symptoms and now you are down to five. One of the things that we are always really, really repetitive with is make sure to write down your symptoms because as they disappear, there's a phenomenon that, you know, you'll have two symptoms left and they'll still feel like those 50 symptoms you had because your body just, you know, is just so eager and ready to, you know, be at 100%. And it happened to me. So we're always like, keep tracking, keep tracking. How often do you sting? I was taught to sting every other day and take a few days off to detox. That's what we recommend for most of our Clients. And how much do bees cost? Some people are able to create relationships with beekeepers in their area. We recommend that just because, you know, the more that you heal from bees, the more you're going to become fascinated by these wonderful, humble, amazing insects. And it's just nice to have a relationship with local beekeepers. But if you don't, for those of you in the United States, you can usually order them. It depends. There's different, there's different companies that, where you can buy them from. But it can run from $15 a pack of BE to 60. That would last you a whole month. But compared to most supplements and protocols, that is incredibly cheap. So our academy is a full program. So BVT Prep is just the beginning. We have some people that feel confident after BVT Prep that they want to go on, you know, go it alone. And we, you know, clap them along and graduate them and say, do it. Other people want more hand holding. Some people have been sick for 20 years. They have a lot going on in terms of their gut, in terms of issues, in terms of mast cell issues that they want support with. And many people also have a lot of trauma that has happened from chronic illness. And they need that constant community and the constant support. So we offer a four step process for that. So one is BVT Prep. Second is the start of testings and then learning how to sting correctly and to do it in a way that doesn't seem scary. That empowers just not only you, but the people around you, the people you live with. And then we go into Sting Club. So Sting Club is really, I think it's awesome. We have a whole different social network for that. And you get alerts on your phone and you're told when we're going to have group stinging, so you don't even feel like you have to sting alone. And we have weekly yoga workouts that are gentle, that we'll start ramping you up with menu plans. So it takes out all of the worries about what to eat. Although we empower you, we also want to make things easier because you're already suffering enough. So we want to make it so that like you don't even have to worry about what to cook, what to eat. Obviously everyone has different, you know, both medical, you know, needs in terms of nutrition as well as food allergies. But hopefully by the time and what we've seen, the majority of people, I would estimate, guesstimate probably about 75, 80% of our people are all able to eat the same foods by the end of BVT prep once we go through our elimination. So and we also have, we work with a great nutritionist who also individualizes each program. I had a lot of questions come in from people saying, but I'm vegetarian, I'm vegan, will this still work for me? We know and we are going to be teaching you the science of why healthy, grass fed, you know, proteins, you know, fresh, clean fish is really, really good for you. And we hope to convert you. Not because we are not animal lovers, but because we know the amino acid profile of proteins and why it is essential for healing. But we do have some Die hards and we work with them. So yes, we can absolutely customize it. We have most of the diehards switch their thinking by the time that BVT prep is ended because they see how much that they have been nutritionally deficient, even if they think that they're perfectly vegan, perfectly vegetarian. It is very, very hard for anyone, especially chronically ill, to perfectly ferment, sprout their lentils and their grains to actually have a good nutrient profile. And most of the modern vegan products are just not bioavailable, nutrients wise. So yes, you can have a vegetarian meal plan with the heel hive, but no, you're going to spend probably as it you should, as we used to back culturally, three hours minimum every two days sprouting, you know, working out the lectins, working out the anti nutrients in these vegetarian products because they are not bioavailable. So it is possible, it's just going to be a lot more work. And most people realize that, you know, what we teach you to do is to eat really, really proper, sustainable, very, very healthy, clean proteins. But yes, we do work with some die hards. And I was one, I was a vegetarian vegan for many, many years. So I get it. Okay, so another question we had was I live out of state, I live out of town, I live in another country. Can I still do this? So we are bullish about lab testing. One thing that becomes a problem if you are out of the country is not every test that we ask for is available in the country. Most people will find that they need to come to America to get the test done. And we've had some people in Europe be able to get the test, like go to another country, go to two countries that, you know, that offer the certain parts of the testing. But we are bullish about it. Why? Because we don't want to keep throwing spaghetti at the wall with you guys. We want to know exactly what is going on in your body so that, you know, any potential roadblocks are eliminated. So just understand that, you know, we're sorry if this is not for everyone, especially people in Australia get really upset with us because they don't want to. Especially now with COVID jump on a plane for 20 hours to go get testing. But, you know, many times it's necessary. And I mean, not many times. All the time it's necessary, and we want to know what's going on your body. And this is also to protect you, because you know when you do and you start bee venom therapy in a correct fashion, you're going to eliminate any potential dangers if you have certain autoimmune diseases. I have one client, one of my earliest clients, and she was planning to do bee venom therapy just on Facebook. And then she's happened. Her daughter happened to introduce her to the heel hive and she started with us. She had had blood testing. The doctor didn't even flag her blood test. She had a dangerous level of clotting. And if she had stung because bee venom also has an anticoagulant to it, she could have put herself into a stroke or put herself into a heart attack. I was able to look through her lab work, alert her doctor. This lab work, by the way, had not been seen by her doctor. Her doctor got in her labs, ignored the labs for three months, and then it was only when we looked through them that we were able to alert her and we said, please go to the hospital right now. You're in a dangerous position. You could have massive deep vein thrombosis, et cetera, et cetera. She went to the hospital. She was admitted immediately. The hospital said, how the hell did your doctor ignore this for three months? This is, you know, this is a dangerous laboratory result. And the doctor was like, oh, shit, didn't see it. Not even a mea culpa. Like, oh, shit, didn't see it. And so that is something that is a lab result that is dangerous. Now, you take all of you guys in which you might have a lab result that might be indicative of a potential autoimmune condition or indicative of, like, a mineral imbalance that can really cause you daily distress. Is that going to be picked up? Is that going to be worked over with a fine tooth comb? Not necessarily. And why we're so bullish about testing is that we believe in bee venom therapy so much, and the last thing we need is for people to not get adequately test and to start stinging themselves with bees and what have a Heart attack, have a stroke, get themselves into a mast cell attack in which they go into anaphylaxis, in which there really never would have been actually allergic to bees. Less than 1% of the population has a true bee allergy. Most people who have a true bee allergy already know it by childhood. They're not able to take anything with honey products in. They get allergic by using propolis or by bee pollen. So, you know, most people would never have that reaction to bee venom. The reason that it seems like so many people do have a big reaction to bee venom therapy is because their bodies are not prepped correctly. And we are very bullish about that. We do not want bee venom to ever get a bad name because people have been blindly just going on to forums and stinging themselves. We treat bee venom therapy as the medicine, as a potential truly eradicating medicine that we feel like it is. I cannot say that it is. I cannot promise you that it is legally binding. But watch my story. Look at how sick I was. I feel very lucky that I, you know, Instagram started when I got sick, and I used it to document, you know, where I was, and you'll see that I was as sick as most of you. It's very, very rare that I find someone who is as sick as I was. I was mostly bedridden. I was on, you know, I took three oxycodones a day just to get through. I was suicidal. Like, I can't believe I got through every day. I always say I probably didn't commit suicide because I was too exhausted to, like, I would literally think about, like, oh, my God, I can't do another day. I just. I have to get out of this. And then I just be too exhausted. You know, I just be like, oh, God, that's too much work. I'll just get up tomorrow. I just gave up. That's pretty. I mean, I laugh about it now, but that's pretty serious. I was in that much distress without getting any support. I created the Heal Hive as my ideal of what I wish I'd had when I was sick. And so it really has every element that I use to get healthy and every element that I wish I had immediately at my fingertips the minute I started bee venom therapy. So, you know, my mistakes, I'm. You know, I'm glad I experience so that I can have you guys not run through and encounter those same mistakes. And that's what we aim to do at the heel hive is to take the guesswork out of it, systematize it. So that you guys are both empowered to take healing into your own hands, but also not having, while you're already exhausted to have to have all that guesswork of should I, should I bring this food element in? Should I do this? Is the supplement good? You know, we're taking out all the guesswork. So is the digital academy right for you? If you just got diagnosed with Lyme, it is. If you've been treating a while, it is. If you're out of money and you need an affordable way, it absolutely is. And if you have a complicated case, how if you're already stinging but hitting roadblocks, what are the reasons, why are the reasons that BBT is unsuccessful or little to no change? That is really going to require us looking through your testing and working with you individually through the heal hive. But I think that you can gather from what I walked you guys before in the last 45 minutes is that there's so many different things that can happen. There can be mineral imbalances, there can be gut issues, there can be massive mast cells that haven't been addressed properly before and you've ramped up too fast. You could be living with environmental salts and toxins. You could have. We have some people that just have so much trauma from being sick from past injuries, both, you know, emotional and, you know, physical that get in the way that have to be addressed before they can really go on to the next step. So there's so many reasons, but you know, know that if you join our, you know, our tribe that in no way are we going to ignore you like you've been ignored by other doctors. You know, this was built by someone who is sick with Lyme. Half of our employees are all people who were sick like you. And we aim to keep employing and keep growing the hive to have within our rankings as practitioners and people that are part of the admin, people that are just like you. Because the last thing anyone needs who's been chronically ill is to have people who've never felt Lyme disease, never felt tick borne diseases, tell them how to feel or tell them how to treat and tell them like, oh, her sing for a month is okay. It is not okay. Anytime you lose functionality, anytime you're bedridden is not a day that is okay with us. It is not fair, it is not just and is not the way your body is going to heal. Just your lymphatic system alone needs to move in order to function properly. So we want you out of bed, we want you moving, we want you feeling Good. We want you mentally prepared and we want you feeling like you are in for the long haul and that every single week you see results and you get improvements so that the two years does not seem so, you know, impossible, but something that feels like, oh my gosh, now you know it's going to be a breeze. That is. That is our aim with the BBT course. Someone asked, is it possible to gain all the info needed for BVT through the online academy? So yes, the BVT prep absolutely preps you for that. And then our rest of our sting club will give you everything you need. Someone asked, can I do this if I live in Atlanta? Absolutely. Will the course still be beneficial if I've learned most of the biohacking tools, how to heal the gut, during my 10 year journey with Lyme disease? If you've learned them all, you wouldn't be here. That might sound bitchy, but it's true. So, you know, one of the things I always say to people because I get so many DMs and people are like, oh, I follow this person, I follow this person, but I'm still lost. I say to people only follow, only get advice from people that are fully, fully healed. Not people that are like, well, no, I'm healed from Lyme, I promise. But yeah, oh yeah, I had a mast cell attack last week. Oh, but I can't eat this food. Oh, but I can't do this. Oh, but I can't like you, they're not healed. You know, one of, I get attacked for sometimes, but one of the reasons I show how much wine I drink and, and how much hiking I do and how naughty I am with eating gluten free cheese pizza and all of that is because I want you to see that I do not live in fear. I hike, I drink wine, I eat high histamine foods. I have a huge life. I want you guys to understand that I do not think that I have to impede my life at all because I had sickness before. I'm not 80% healed. I'm not 90% healed. I'm not able to just. I'm not. Some people will say, oh, follow me, learn from me. I have Lyme, but I'm not able to eat this food. I'm not able to do this, I'm not able to do that, but I'm healed. No, you're not healed. You're healed. When you do not live in fear anymore, period. When you feel that you can jump out of bed, go on a two mile bike ride, eat A salami sandwich, hopefully with gluten free bread. And drink wine and then, you know, throw a party later in that day for your friends, right? And drink more wine or you know, tequila like, and dance all night on the tables like, you know, not that we want you doing that every day, especially for your microbiome when you're healthy. Like obviously, you know, but the idea is that you should be able to join, rejoin society and have a huge big life again and not live in fear that you have to live in a bubble or live in Joshua Tree. Although it's beautiful, no one wants to live there full time. Trust me, boring as all hell after, you know, a few months. Like, we want you to have your life back. So wherever you were before tick borne disease got you, we want to bring you back to that and hopefully even healthier than you were before with the knowledge we impart to you. So who qualifies for our academy? Although I believe and science has proven that bee venom therapy can be helpful for a myriad of different conditions, we are very, very, very much focused at this moment on people with tick borne diseases. Why? One, because we are doing research and we are working with organizations that are, you know, paving the way for showing that bee venom therapy is the future. So we have a partnership with OURA Ring. So many of our members actually use OURA Ring and we are tracking, showing how bee venom therapy is the future of treating Lyme disease. We are so sure of our system, we are so sure of our program that we know that we can show the data that by literally just doing BVT prep, your entire health can change and then by stinging, most people's entire health can change. And we use that through OURA Ring and we have a partnership with them, which is really exciting. They're a cutting edge biotech company and you know, it's one of the, one of the initial things that we're doing to prove to the world that bee venom therapy works. We have a few other things that we're cooking up and that we have up our sleeve. But know that for me the heel hive is about working with those that are victims of Lyme disease and also proving that bee venom therapy is for real and not just some holistic woo woo. But is the future of probably hopefully many, many different types of therapies for people from Ms. To Lyme disease to people with dealing with cancer and other viruses. The BVT prep course is 12 weeks and so it's three months. A lot of people worry about the time commitment. We record Every live webinar, though, the people that seem to do the best are the people that follow through with, you know, showing up and being accountable. Accountability is a really, really big thing with us. So it's all good if you want to heal and you believe you can heal. It's even better when you actually actively work every day on healing and put in the hard work. And that's why we systematize everything and that's why we take the guesswork out of it so that the reserves you do have, you can work on actually healing yourself. So, you know, again, we have some people that are moms that are still having to, they're the main breadwinner, still having to work for, you know, for their family full time. That's why we record everything you can, you know, some people are never able to make a live webinar. You can submit questions prior to the live webinar if you cannot make it and have your questions answered in the live webinars. If you're just like, I don't have a lifestyle that will provide me to be able to make the live webinars. But we do have a lot of live webinars happen in the weekends so that everyone can participate. So that answers a lot of questions about being a stay at home mom taking care of small children. We want to make it as inclusive as possible. So, you know, we always love it when the kids are sitting on your lap or the mom's nursing, why they are learning. And another question was, if I'm pregnant, just had a baby and I'm breastfeeding, can I do this? Remember, BVT prep is 12 weeks. You cannot, we do not recommend you start your stinging when you're breastfeeding. But if you're at the end of your breastfeeding and you're ready to wean your child, then it's a perfect time to get started and to get started learning in terms of personal support. You will have me weekly and we are all learning in a group, but you can ask questions and I pull people out and we have one on one conversations. Why everyone? You know, they're learning opportunities for everyone. And then after BVT prep happens in steam club, you can also work with me one on one. Why do we do it? It's not so that you know, oh my gosh, I want to make it hard on you so that you know, you can't work with me one on one. It's because I started working with people one on one. And what I realized is that it would become incredibly expensive for people to. To get the knowledge that's in the academy, to work with me to the extent that they got that knowledge that I could offer in the academy. So I put together the academy so that when you start working with me one, it's going to save you money. Because my goal is to have. You barely need to work with me to actually have imparted all the knowledge in my brain so that if we do work together, it's because you have small, little nuanced issues that you have to work on. Not having to kind of start from zero and rebuild your body through working one on one with me, that is expensive for anyone and we want to. Again, I was a broke limey who had nothing left and had. I was single, I had no resources, my parents are very working class. Trust me, I know what it's like. I want to save you money. And this program will. Why? Because what happens with many, many people when they're self treating themselves with BVT online, they give up because they hit roadblocks and then they find themselves at an impasse and they don't get better or they feel worse. That is not saving you money. You are not back to work any quicker, are you? Look, you get what you pay for. We keep our prices really low, but we do recommend for those that can't afford us. Please, please, please don't put off in a bvt, but try and find a practitioner who will do that heavy lifting and make sure that you do it safely when you start. Because nothing. Just because it's holistic, just because there's bees on the lavender bush outside your window, does not mean that it's not real deep medicine. So how do we keep you safe? That's a big question. One, this is why we work with an md, this is why we have an ER nurse on staff, and this is why you never sting without going through your comprehensive testing. Because as I just said, we had someone that was about to sting. She could have literally had a stroke or a heart attack if she had begun stinging immediately. It is dangerous in that extent. It's not dangerous when you are fully prepped. When we have ensured that all the environmental assaults, all the internal factors are addressed and we have basically signed off that you are safe for stinging. You should feel very, very confident you are safe, that you've had true medical practitioners that have signed off on that and that we have approved you to sting and you're in a good place. We make sure that you are. Someone said, both my sisters have B allergies and we don't know about me. Is there any way before paying for the online course to test if there's a chance I do too? That's a complicated question. One we don't know what your sisters are going through. Many times in families, many families are living in the same place in which everyone could have Lyme. They just might not show that they have Lyme. So your sisters might not have a true genetic anaphylactic allergy. They might actually have mast cell disorder, which is why which most when you go to the er, if you show any type of hives for a bee sting, they will just, they get lazy. Our ER nurse teaches this. They'll just say, oh, you have bee allergy. Use an EpiPen. They don't actually go through the hard work of figuring out whether you have a true anaphylactic allergy or whether you have just a true mast cell disorder that is showing a high vulnerability to the bee venom. So that's where it gets complicated. We do recommend that you go to an allergist and get tested and see what happens in an allergist's office. Again, that's not always perfect. If you're living in high mold, if you have certain autoimmune conditions that are not addressed, if there's certain things going on in your environment, your body, that can also affect that allergy test. So it's not a perfect science. But we do recommend if you have people in your family generationally that have be anaphylactic allergy to be venom, that you do get tested prior. Someone said since people can develop an allergy if they take big enough breaks during bvt, when I finish BVT and take pretty much a forever break, will I then be allergic to bees? That is a false notion. You can't get an allergy to bee venom if you stop it. You can have an anaphylactic allergy if you haven't gotten worked on your mast cell issues, if you haven't truly eradicated your pathogenic infections that create the mast cell issues, and if you're still living with environmental assaults that bring up mast cell and destabilize mast cells. Right? So that is what can cause if you take a break. You having anaphylaxis from bee venom is because you're not actually in the right place to restart just because you did it before. So, you know, I absolutely know through science, through working with our medicine practitioners, that that is total bs and so we would never, if you're under our Guidance. We'd never have you restart if you took a break from bvt. We'd never have you restart it if you were not in the right place. So we are running out of time and I think I went through a lot of my questions, but I do want to go through a few more before I have to run. Okay? So the testing. We do not believe in pseudoscience and we also do not believe in the kickbacks most doctors take for boutique lab work. So a lot of you will have gone to Lyme doctors and you will be given these tests from these boutique labs that you're paying out of pocket that are thousands dollars, 800, blah, blah, blah. Right. I'm sure many of you are very, very familiar with that. We do not agree with that. We only work with LabCorp and Quest Diagnostics and bioreference labs. All of those labs are covered by Medicare, covered by Medicaid, and covered by your major insurance. You should only be paying your copay for the labs that we require. Why do we only work with those labs? Because those labs are actually overseen and actually have right calibrations. Most boutique labs have no overseeing by the cdc. They could be telling you you are positive for Bartonella when you are actually not. They could be telling you you don't have any vitamin imbalances when you absolutely do. And remember, most of the doctors are getting kickbacks for all of these labs. So they, they say that you have to use their boutique lab to get these organic acids and blah, blah, blah. And you're looking at a $2,000 lab test. But you have health insurance. You say, can I do this at Quest? Can I do this at LabCorp? Nope, you have to work with my private lab. It's because they're getting hundreds of dollars of kickbacks. You start adding up how many patients they have, how many times a day that they see these patients. They are able to pay for their kids computer, Ivy League education just by the kickbacks from lab testing alone. We do not do any kickbacks. We are transparent. We want you to work with your own health insurance. So what about people who are international? There are ways to get international travelers insurance that we'd recommend you get before you come to the States. People can also many times get most of the lab tests done either in the UK through the nhs, in Canada, through the Canadian system, at least half, so that their costs are, you know, not so prohibitive when they come to the us but we do have certain inflammatory markers, mold marker tests, autoimmune tests that can really are really only able to be requisitioned in the in the US So we do recommend that you come here and someone asked if you only tested positive for one Lyme infection, Ehrlichia, but have persistent health problems, is this treatment still relevant? First of all, many times when you have an infection, you can actually have dormant infections that don't show up in blood serum because the, you know, one infection is actually taking over. So we've seen people start bee stinging, never show up as like let's say having Bartonella, which can show as it's also called cat scratch fever because it can create these like weird rashes that look like tiger stripes. And then three months into stinging they have tiger stripes. Why? Because bee venom we can't go into with this webinar. But bee venom actually also allows the infections to become acute. It brings them to the surface out of this dormancy. So you might be shocked by what you show up with being positive for it. Two or three months into bee stinging so many times there might be other conditions that are at play. Another thing, tick borne diseases we know can include creating autoimmune conditions that if they are not properly addressed, not properly tested for, you might be suffering through needlessly. That is what BVT prep is for. That even if you've gotten at these infections, you might not have gotten at the other stuff that these infections brought about. And that is what we're addressing with bvt. Will your doctor write the labs? Yes, you will work with your own doctor if you have a doctor that will requisition your lab test. What we found is a really crazy phenomenon that some people pay extraordinary amounts out of pocket for lab tests through these really, really fancy Lyme doctors. And then they go in and they ask for the heal hive test. And the doctors say, no, these tests are not extraordinary. They're not something that like, you know, a hospital would balk at if you went in for a specific situation. Why do they balk at this? I don't know. Sometimes I think that they're embarrassed. They don't know what these tests really mean. Some of them say, I've never heard of this test. Which is, I think egregious because these are tests that they should be doing and other times they're just too lazy. And the problem is that they actually have to look up the lab code. They have to do that. We provide the lab codes. We cannot provide them for every state. Some states and even counties have different lab codes. But we walk you guys through that to make it as easy for your doctor. If you have a doctor that bulks, if you have a doctor that says no, which is ridiculous, but it happens all the time. They do not want you to know what's going on your body because many of them do not get to then sell you thousands of and thousands of dollars of supplements. Remember, each time you buy a supplement from a doctor, they are getting at least 20% and in some cases 50%. They are making a lot of money. So that Tesla that's in the parking lot, that's the supplements. So their Ivy league kids education is from your boutique labs. The supplements that you're buying from them is their Tesla. And I'm not kidding about this. There's big money in Lyme disease, really big money. And so each doctor that says, you know what, I'm not against bvt, I've actually seen patients get better from it. But let's try you on this, let's try you on ldi, let's try you on ivig, let's try you on this protocol question, why you can't try BVT first and then you're willing to do the other? Because if BVT doesn't work, hey, you're still their patient right after. So is BVT compatible with, let's say ivig? LDI antibiotics? We recommend, and I think you'll learn very quickly through BVT prep that, you know, bee venom is, has this multi dimensional, antibacterial, antiviral, anti inflammatory muscle degranulating, you know, myelation, supporting, you know, all these aspects that are multidimensional. You should not need to invest or muddy the waters with any other type of modality. And many times people come to us and say, but it's keeping me afloat. You are not here, you're not watching this webinar if it's truly keeping you afloat. Right? Because you are already realizing you are not where you want to be. So do we recommend that you stop everything before you start stinging? Not necessarily. We recommend that you learn through BVT prep and then you're going to be empowered to have the knowledge to know when you need to stop what you're already your protocols that you're on and when you're ready to do bvt. But what we do recommend, especially to prove to the world that BVT works, is that you only use BVT when you're stinging. As for mold, we spend weeks on it. We walk you through mold testing, mold remediation, getting rid of mold in your body. So that was a lot of questions. And know that whether you're in mold, treating mold at the moment, not sure if you have mold. We address that in bvt. All right, So I wish we had time for questions. I can take about three minutes. I'm so sorry. I usually talk a lot during my webinars, but I want to get it all in. You guys had so many questions you sent through. I'm going to take the first three hands that go up. So let me see some hands. I'll take Sarah, I need you to unmute yourself. Sarah. Okay. Hi, Sarah. How are you doing?
I'm good. Thank you for doing this chat.
You're so welcome.
So my question is because I was doing the Facebook group protocol for like a year, and I just literally went downhill. And so I'm just wondering with the 10 stings that we're like, slowly working up to.
Well, I don't actually recommend you have to work up to 10 stings. Okay.
So you. With your protocol, you don't have to go to ten stings.
This is your. We empower you to have your own protocol.
Okay?
Everyone is individual.
Okay.
Remember that. It's. You know, you'll learn the science of bee venom, and from that you'll learn exactly what your body needs.
So I'm just wondering, is, like, at certain numbers of stings, are you killing more borrelia or more pathogens?
It depends what's going on in your body. And if your body cannot handle that raised inflammation, you are actually causing more distress. The body is a system. It's like, I think because Lyme doctors focus so much on pathogenic killing instead of support and repair, is that we go into BVT's many times. And this killing, you know, Rambo type way, without realizing that it is a system, that the mechanics. If you don't put WD40 on a machine, it breaks down. It doesn't matter. You know, if you're feeding fuel into the machine, if the gears can't move, it doesn't matter. Right. So we see everything. We see your body as a machine, that you have to focus on restoration, repair, and rest as along with just pathogenic killing.
Okay. All right.
That makes sense.
Okay, good. It's good to see your face, you know, can't wait to have you in class. All right. Is there any more questions for me?
I was just wondering. So with. Sorry, with like, ramping up stings and everything because, say, we're staying at a low number of stings depending on how we're dealing with it. Would it take longer to heal? Like, to fully heal?
Not necessarily.
Okay, that's interesting.
Yeah.
That's in the Facebook world.
I know. It's like, it's. It's. Go fast, go deep, suffer, like, if you're not hurting. If you're like. I mean, I see it all the time. If you're not suffering, it's not working. We don't believe in that at the Heal Hive. We believe that when you're healing, your body should. You should feel like you're healing. Mm. Okay. People know it, and I think that's why we have so many people that are such Heel Hive, you know? Like, they're so pleased with our system because they've tried off of Facebook. They've only suffered through it. Then they start with us, and they're like, I keep feeling better and better and better. That's a phenomenon. I don't actually fall backwards again. We want you to be functional. We want you to get your life back as soon as possible.
Mm. Okay.
I can't wait. Okay, awesome. Can't wait to see you in class. You have a good day, Sarah. Okay. Anyone else? Hi, Louise. I'll need you to unmute yourself.
Hi. I'm actually based in London in the uk.
Nice. I used to live in London. I miss it.
Oh, really? Where did you live?
Off of Regent's Park. It was so beautiful. Yeah?
Yeah. And I was just wondering, in terms of the testing that you discussed in the prep. So, I mean, how many tests and how would it work if, like, for me, for example, I live in the uk, I wouldn't be able to get hold of them. I mean, am I still eligible?
We have a bunch of people in the uk, so what they've done is that they've. Most of the nhs, just, as you know, will be so reluctant to do any of the tests. They'll either go and pay out of pocket for private doctors to run the test. I think also some of them go to Germany to get some of the tests done. Others just, you know, fly over to New York and get the test done. Obviously, you know, by the time BVT Prep starts, by the time we're done with BVT Prep, there'll be months in between for you to work on your testing and figure it out. But most of the time, after people have gone through our lab testing modules, most people are pretty convinced of how important lab testing is, and they realize it's key for them to actually fully heal, so they just invest in whatever it takes to get that lab testing done.
Oh, okay. And am I allowed to ask more than one question or.
Yes. Yeah. I only have a few more minutes. Sorry, I have another.
Yeah, I'll be quick then. So you said that there was somewhere in Germany that you could get even testing in the uk so that just for like co infections and things like mold and like GI issues or like what?
Again, some. Some people have had to piecemeal. It's kind of like quilt their. You know what I mean? Like quilt their testing. So, you know, they'll go to Germany for a few of these tests, you know, pay out of pocket for some of these tests in the uk. Others will go. You know what, it's actually worth my while to invest in travelers insurance that covers health insurance in the US for three months and just only go over for a weekend and get my lab tests done and requisitioned in the U.S. it all depends. But we do have a lot of people in the UK and in Europe that are healhive members. You'll be connected to them and you can work with them of how to problem solve that. So that gives you a whole community of people that have already gone through it and a headache.
Okay, nice. Thank you.
Oh, you're so welcome. Nice to meet you. Okay, everyone, I might do another one of these because I just wasn't able to get to everyone's questions and I'm sorry. And I do have 1120, but I hope that this was incredibly informative. I hope to see all of you in class and I hope to have you all as members and you know, I become the big bee mama for you all. I don't want any single person to not be successful in the Heal Hive. I've been there, I've lived it. I was you. And I want you to now be me and be free. So I hope this gave you hope and I hope you feel supported already from the hive and we already love you guys. So hope to see you very, very soon and have a good weekend and nice anti inflammatory day. Bye everyone.
Thank you.
I want to share it with somebody.
What?
Can you share this recording if I want to show my father. You will. You can get a link to the recording? Absolutely. Just email the Heel Hive for sure. Okay, cool.
Thank you.
Bye.
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