Becoming An Influencer Power Player For Good With Tracy Hazzard Biz4Good Show With Bobby Glen James & Ryan Pilkington

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Welcome, people. I'm your host, Bobby Glenn James, along with the Ryan Pilkington. Ryan Pilkington, ladies and gentlemen. And of course, today, an amazing guest. Tell us about the show, Ryan.

Yeah.

Ryan has gotten a lot more loud and boisterous since before we started the show, haven't you?

Yeah. Something rubbed off on me. I don't know what it was, but yeah. Thanks for joining us for the best for good show. And we're on episode 103, becoming an influencer power player for good with Tracy Hazard.

Becoming an influencer power player for good with Tracy Hazard.

Welcome to the drone show, Tracy.

Thanks, guys, for having me. Oh, my goodness. I love the energy.

This is going to be fun. Interview. She's sat with us so nice and patiently while we have out all these technical problems, and she's just super fun. So this is going to be great. Thanks for being on the show, Tracy. And let's get. Kick it, kick it, kick it.

Absolutely.

Yeah. We hit one episode over 100. Now we got to relearn our technical stuff.

You got to learn. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's always. That's the whole thing of business. The whole thing of everything that you do. You've always got to keep moving forward, doing something more. And hey, yeah, you get problems. You have things that happen, and that's what helps you grow. I mean, everybody. People are afraid to move forward because they're afraid stuff will go wrong. But you know what? That's what pushes us to do more. Those are. That's the difference between people that sit on the couch and people that are successful.

And that's why I reached out to you, because you are a doer, my friend.

I'm a doer? Yes. I believe that the true secret to success is one word with two letters. D O.

D, O.

If you want to get somewhere in life, do something.

Oh, I agree.

You. You, you agree with that, Tracy?

Yeah, I believe in doers. Oh.

Action is the key. You. We talk to so many highly successful people, and. And it always comes down to they work. It takes work, man. It takes work. Awesome. Okay.

Well, you know, I talk about this all the time that I see great ideas, I see, you know, great, passionate plans. I see products that are really cool, but, you know, 99% of them won't do it.

They. No implementation. They don't. Or they don't stick with it long enough. Those are, those are the highly successful people, are the ones that everybody said, that's stupid. It'll never work. And they didn't quit. Elon Musk comes to mind. An electric car. What in the crap are you thinking?

And let's put it in space.

Yes. Tell us about the show, Ryan. Okay, we, we, we got all the. Getting off track. Off track, done.

I plan on it every time. All right. Yeah. We got Tracy Hazard and she is an ink columnist and co host of the three top ranke podcast feed. Your brand just listed as one of the CIO's top 26 entrepreneur podcasts to listen to in 2018. The newly launched members only product launch Hazards and what the F, no WTFF. And the 3D print innovation start point featured as one of the exclusive live podcasts at the SXSW in 2018. With a constant stream of content and products from her authority platform, reaching over a hundred thousand listeners and viewers each month, Tracy influences and cast branded content and 2 billion. That's a billion worth of B people. Yeah. Worth of consumer products and innovation around the world.

This is the real deal. Ladies and gentlemen, Tracy Hazard.

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It's a movement.

That is correct. It is a movement. We are here for the good. Take it on. Good against the noise. Good against the noise.

Yeah, definitely go on Instagram and share your good stories using the hashtag good against the noise.

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Okay. Something new that we are going to do today on the show is we. We are going to highlight. We're going to start highlighting me and Ryan's kind of. We want to start giving action items for folks that, that we have done, that we have learned. And Ryan, of course, being the, the. The guru graphic man that he is, I, I tell everybody I meet Ryan is a graphical genius, but he just understands branding. You understand how to look at a company.

You.

And when you do graphic stuff for companies, you sit down with them and you find out their core and what they are and then you create this brand for them. That's just. I mean, I've seen it over and over again. I know we got graphic stuff all over the studio and it's all Ryan. It's all Ryan. You just understand how to pull out this brand of a company that. I just think there's not many people that have companies that can do that for people. So we're going to start highlighting that and talking to Ryan about branding for good. So what do you got for us today about branding for good?

Yeah, thank you.

Playing fun here. Yeah, we got Branding for Good is a segment and I'm glad that we have a guest here because she can bounce off of this better. It was Wells with me, but it's called Two sides to Every Brand. We got the business and the personal side of branding, and I wanted to talk specifically about the perception versus reality.

Aha.

So you get your website up and you think it's looking awesome and you're like, this is what my company is. But then when they call you and then you're interacting with customers, is it even relating to what's on your website or on Your branding material.

Consistency, Consistency and perception. So I would say take some time and do some art brand archetyping and understanding your brand personalities so it relates to what your brand is and what your target audience is.

And then make sure your company is that.

Exactly.

I used to love it. We'd go to networking meetings. I'm sure Tracy's probably had this, too. You go to a networking meeting and this person is like, yeah, I'm a marketing expert. And they give you, like, a cutout business card that has fringes on it that they probably made on their printer. And it's just like that. I'm sorry. And it's a Gmail account email. And you're just like, it doesn't feel right. And whether you like it or not, you are your brand.

Exactly.

Period.

I'll go to a lot of networking meetings and I get their business cards, and it's sad because they miss an opportunity to look right. It's like they give me a piece of paper from they just got off of their printer, and I'm like, you missed the boat.

Yep. Yeah. What do you think, Tracy?

Yeah, you know, I mean, I am a big proponent of what I call hypothesis brands at the very beginning, when you aren't really sure who you are or how people are going to perceive you. Because at the end of the day, branding really is what people think of you. That's your brand. It is not what you put out in the world. It is how it's perceived, how it's received. And so at the end of the day, if it's being received badly, then you've done something wrong. And so having something where you get started to have that dialogue. Because a lot of people get stuck when they're first beginning and they don't put themselves out there because they're afraid of, oh, if I print this, I got to print up a thousand. And, you know, it's expensive. And like, they get caught up in that. And I'm a big fan of putting a stake in the ground, just getting out there with what you. You truly believe you are and where the value lies. The most unique value, of course. And then from there, letting it go to have a dialogue back and forth, start to find out what people actually think of you. So, I mean, I. Our. Our brand has shifted multiple times over time because the more we converse with our customers, the more we realize we were not what we thought we were. And so that's okay. Go ahead and shift, Go ahead and move. Go ahead and make it what people are seeing and Then live by that.

Be that that is the key. And then live by that.

I love what you said, business and personal. Because again, your personal life is still your brand. And if it doesn't connect with your business, people are gonna know that in this day and age, they are together whether we like it or not.

Awesome.

And today we can't divorce that because today we're all out there, right? We're all doing our livestreams and we're out there, you know, talking about it. So at the end of the day, your brand is you too. And how you are received, if you're received in a really valuable way, in a good way and open minded way, then it makes a difference.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Tracy, let's get to know you.

We want.

Let'S just get to know Tracy. Can you got any juicy stuff for us so we can really go.

Are you trying to go for gossip?

Well, no, no, no. I think she, that thing that's in her head right now that she goes, I'm not sure I want to say that's the one we want. That one right there.

Well, so I'll tell you, I'll tell you what fascinates people the most. I work with my husband and I've worked with my husband for almost 25 years. What?

Wow.

So he's my, he is my partner and that fascinates people. They cannot believe that we work together and on and off. I mean not solidly had a business together for 25 years, but we've solidly had this business together for almost 10. So you know, this formation of our business we've had for almost 10 together. And people can understand how we can do that. It's like it blows their mind.

I love it.

But not just that we, we added our 23 year old daughter to our business and she killed it. She accelerated us a year beyond what we expected to be able to do. So now we have a real family business.

You have a 23 year old daughter.

Yeah. I don't, I don't believe you.

I don't.

That's the other thing that blows most people's mind. Yes. But I also have a nine year old and a four year old.

We have a fact check.

Yeah. That.

With the same husband, right? With the same husband.

Yeah. I'm proud of making it 23 years and my wife won't have anything to do with work that I do.

And that's the way it is for a lot of people. Right.

Would you say that you're best friends? Right?

Yeah, we started out as best friends before we started dating and.

We went to art school, both of us went to Rhode Island School of Design together. And so we met in that environment and we truly found our skills compatible and we used to do projects together and could trick each other's work and we found we were better together. And so it's really, you know, this is something that's really amazing for when you've experienced it. And if you can get that and you get a partner and so it doesn't matter if you're married or not, but if you can get a partner in where your mind share becomes bigger than you, that's amazing and it's great. And so most people are like, well, how do you have time off? How do you get a date night? Or whatever. And we were like, well, we never actually shut it off. That's something we learned early on. We never shut off the creative process or talking about business. We don't have a, like you can't talk about it after 5 o' clock or anything. Our daughters get a little upset at us sometimes, but because our minds are working in the creative process and the way that we work, that doesn't shut off in our own heads. So we've just learned to say, hey, it's okay, well, you know, go for it and mention it to me. And if I'm like, no, I can't handle one more thing today, I'm on overload, then, you know, we'll stop talking about it and we'll put it off till a better time. But for the most part, we just don't create that hard and fast line and it's actually made our whole work and home life a lot easier for us.

I think that's, you know, people talk about don't bring your work home, but you guys are, it's a part of you and it really is, it is.

It'S a part of us.

Yeah, I love that. I think that's kind of going against the grain, but a good thing. I super think that if you can and it's cool that you found a partner that can, can be with you all the time. And that's the way I feel about my wife. We don't ever get tired of each other or I don't ever need man breaks or stuff. And I know a lot of people that do. And I, I don't know, I like being with my wife. I, you know, I don't want to.

I mean, that's the thing is we don't, we don't have the same job, so it's like, you know, we still talk about, like, what did you, who'd you talk to today and what'd you do today? Like, are we still. Because I mean, our jobs are not the same job. So, you know, it still is for us and we still have those conversations.

Super cool. Super, super.

I worked with my wife at a call center and everyone asked, what the heck, you guys go on the same shift every day and see each other every day. You're home. And yeah, we don't have a problem. And like I said, we were best friends first, so.

Yep, yep. It makes it, you know, it's good to hear that we still have people that stay married because you watch the news, you would think nobody ever stays married.

Yeah, yeah, there you go. But the other thing is that when you're building something that's passion based or, or a business that is.

You'Re kind of so enveloped in that world. Right. You're immersed in it. And it's really hard to then make family time and come out of that and have a relationship. And that's why so many people who build big businesses end up without the relationships at the end of the day. But we are on the same path. We're building the same business together. We have the same heartfelt goals. We want to make the world better. We have that and our mind share and our timeshare is the same. And so it's just that alignment really.

Makes a difference, you know, that reminds me, we had the CEO of Crazy Richard's Peanut Butter on and if you've never had Crazy Richard's peanut butter, have you ever heard of it? It's a national brand.

I haven't, but it sounds good.

Oh, it's supernatural. It's all 100% natural peanut butter. She was so amazing, but she bought the company from her dad. She grew up running around in the warehouse that you can't do now because of all these restrictions. But. And then she hires her husband and he's allergic to peanuts, which is so cool. But, but anyway, the fact that it's the same thing, it seems like people that are really focused on this being good and doing good stuff, Relationships matter and, and they're important. And, and even those really, really close relationships like spouses. And it's, it's, it's kind of cool. It's kind of cool to see that that's still a thing. Awesome. Well, let's, let's. We have asked Tracy and she has accepted the Google challenge.

That is right. Tracy has decided to take on Google and it is gonna be brutal. So, ladies and gentlemen, Ryan is gonna be putting in the question to Google. Right now, the question is becoming an influencer power player for good. Now, we're going to go to page three of Google, because page one and two is not fun. We're going to go to page three and we're going to find out what Google has to say about this, and we'll see what Tracy has to say. What Google has to say. What is impact and influence is what Google is saying. Impact and influence as a competency is the ability to persuade or convince others to support an idea, agenda, or. Or direction. Sometimes we refer to it as strategic influence. It involves taking a variety of actions to influence others, including establishing credibility or using data to directly persuade or address a person's issues or concerns.

What do you think, Tracy?

I think that sounds a little manipulative.

Oh, she took it on.

Don't you?

Yeah. Don't you?

I mean, I think while I was.

Reading it, I felt it does.

I mean, it sounds like the digital marketer definition of influencer. Like, it sounds like the ones who are using Google Trends and using Google to figure out how to make their stuff rank and how to get above everybody else. That's what that sounds like. And to me, that's not a true influencer. I mean, while those influencers do make money, they make money in really unscrupulous ways at the end of the day, where the products aren't any good and they're just hawking stuff and it's about money and it's not about impact, which was the first word that they said. There's. So I always think that impact means that, you know, you want to do something bigger and better for the world. You want to have impact and ripples that go throughout. And if you're going to do that, then it has to be authentic at the end of the day.

While you can use those tools, and you should use those tools because that's what you're competing against. But at the end of the day, it's got to be authentic to you. And that's what a true influencer. We have tons of influencers on our. On our platform, on our podcast platform that we utilize. And when I look at the ones that do the best, they're the ones that are the most authentic. They're the ones that are the most them every single day, in and out, and they're not the ones that are doing the tools.

Yep. We say the only true way to get above the noise is be yourself, because it's the only thing you have that is a real differentiator because everybody else knows about all those tools. The only way you can become above that is to be who you are. And the people that will connect with that will connect with that. I love it. That is so cool that this came up and that you were able to take that on because often we get people that agree with Google. But I think you are right on the money. Super cool. Which brings us in to another piece of being good is being real and authentic to the people that you connect with.

And sincere.

What? Sincere? Yes, absolutely. And in this day and age, we know when somebody's full of crap. You, you. While I was reading it, I felt it. While you heard it, you felt it. We all were like, oh, my gosh, this is so right on the money with every. What everybody tells you you should do. And it has no soul. It has no good energy. So interesting. Very cool. Awesome.

It does have some other things on there, but we'll move on.

It does have some other things, but we might taint all the cool stuff came up with if they start going on a good path. Yeah, moving on.

Let's go on.

All right, so the question for you now, I can't talk, Tracy, is what's going on? What's your movement? What's going on with Tracy?

Well, so I have two businesses that I run and so one is a product based business and one is a content based business. And the reality is to sell great products, to sell the best peanut butter, to sell the, you know, the best juicer blender out on the market today. In order to do that, you have to have great content. And so a lot of people do these influencer campaigns where they go find a celebrity, they get Kim Kardashian or whoever to hawk their stuff. It's expensive and it's actually not as useful because they're going to move on to the next thing, you know, as soon as you click fan the day you can. Yeah, it's, it's, it's. It doesn't last. And so how can you become the influencer? How can you become a part of the movement? So if you are making the most amazing juicer blender and you are passionate about juicing as the absolute most healthy way to go through your life, then you should be the one talking about that. You should be the one who builds that influence and that community around it. So that's kind of what we sort of fell into. So I'd been designing products for mass market for 25, 25 plus years. So things that you buy at Costco and Walmart and Target every single day. I ghost design for Martha Stewart and people like that. So you bought my products. But the reality is is that when I went to go work with smaller companies and smaller brands who didn't get on that mass market level, they didn't have the capacity to advertise to get the positioning to do all of those things at the get go. They had to build that. And the only way to do that was to go from the beginning and build this sort of influencer style campaign. Because otherwise they would get a bunch of product and it would be sitting in the garage. They'd have 10,000 units, you know of something. And that you spend too much money making product and that's so risky when you don't know if people will buy it yet.

I have a question.

There was no way for them to test it.

I have a question. We got. I went to Walmart during that crazy Black Friday.

Really? You tried that, huh?

No, we went on accident. It was accident, trust me.

Anyways, there's a billion people here.

You accidentally showed up at Walmart on Black Friday?

It is a long, long story. It involves a duct tape. Anyways.

We won't go into that. Anyway, the question is I saw a lot of people getting the quick potential this quick pot. Is there any influencing going on? Because all these. It seems like mom bloggers are going crazy on this quick pot thing.

It looks like a rice cooker.

Yeah. You know there's so much of this that is just such push marketing and it's to get people into the store. So here I am. I know I'm an insider into what goes on the retail. And I wouldn't step a foot in or buy a Black Friday sale ever.

There it is. People been saying that for years.

Yeah. Because it's what they call a lot of the product is lost leaders. So these are things that they bring in. They don't make any money on it. It's defeatured. So it's actually not the top value product that you want. And their goal is to get you in the door. So you'll buy a bunch of other things and then they'll make back their money. And that's how you hit the black on Black Friday and Cyber Monday. And they're all the same kind of thing. But today it's a pay per play model. So only the people that can play, only the pay, only the people that can advertise, only the people who agree to be a part of the sales and discount more. So Amazon makes more. That's the people who are doing that. So are those products any good? Most of the people who have amazing good products can't afford to do that. And so you're missing out on really great messaging, great mission driven products, really great inventors behind them or founders behind them. Like you're like the peanut butter, you know, like you're really missing out on that. If you're going straight into this, what is manipulative marketing? At the end of the day, it is driving you in to do more and buy more. And it's about consumerism and it's not really about what's best and what's the best gift going out there and what's best for your family. Now, that being said, if there happens to be a toy that your kid absolutely wants and it happens to be on sale, you should get the discount. Go for it.

There you go. So what?

Because it'll be gone.

Take us through what it looks like for maybe a potential client of yours. What would that look like? Because I think you're striking it right on the head. Most of our listeners are small business owners and solopreneurs and stuff like that. What do you do for people like that to get them to even compete in any kind of a way? Can you give us just a little bit of insight?

Right, so what I want them to do is to start first without product. And when I define product, it could be a coaching package, it could be a course, it could be a book. I want you to start first on what we call the platform for your social good business. I want you to start on that platform building first. Because you don't have the right audience. Yeah, because if you don't have the right audience, you don't have the right type of people to talk to. And you don't know if they will plunk down money at the end of the day for what you might have to sell in the future. Then you're not really testing it. You're testing it with friends and family who love you. And they're either gonna be yes men or no men. And so we're the ones who say yes, of course. Everything you do is amazing. Bobby and Ryan, right? You know, you guys are, you know, the bomb, right? That's your mom, right? But then you might have your dad who goes back and goes, no, you shouldn't do this. Like go get a job. Right? So those are the ones where no matter what it is, it's yes or no, but it's Coming from a place of love for you and protecting you, it has nothing to do with the idea or the social good mission that you have.

As much as we love those folks, the insight we probably need from outside and getting outdoors.

Exactly. And then today, if you've got a consumer product, you better know that women want it. That's. At the end of the day, you better find a way to access women. Because women control 86% of the purchases that are made at retail. They either buy or actually influence the decision.

That's cool.

And that's across every product category. And it's even higher on things like travel. So services too. It's just crazy numbers. So if you don't have a community of women. This is why I'm not a Kickstarter fan. Because Kickstarter is 70% millennial male with no money.

Dude, we need to come up with a female thing.

A female Kickstarter.

Well, there are some, but they don't work as well either. That's what Amazon is, Right?

Right, Amazon.

So if you can find a way to test your idea by building this community and getting the right people. So again, this is where I go back to what I said at the beginning, which was a hypothesis. Because you don't necessarily want to spend a ton of money developing your brand. You don't want to develop a whole gigantic, like overcomplicated website. You don't want to build it yet. You want to just have something simple where you can start to have a conversation and then the next step is to have some conversion, to have some. Can I sell them something that they buy so I know that they care about my mission and they will buy something because of it. And you want it to be something, you know, relevant. Obviously you don't want to go for that. But it may not be that final invention or that final course or the final thing. It may just be something small. Maybe it's a book and maybe it's a, you know, a small one day boot camp. You know, it could be something like that. So we do a lot of. That's why we started 3D printing. Because we do a lot of small run test products before we actually make 10,000 piece runs.

Wow. I love it. I love it. Do we want to. Let's ask the question, our big question. I think this connects us with our big question of the day, which we ask everybody that comes on the show. What does biz for good mean to you? What does being good and doing good in business mean to you?

So what I found is that I am a, I'm going to call it a. I'm a conduit for great ideas. And when you tell me your mission and your ideas or give me your product.

I look at it and I go, there's a path for this, or this is a dead end. And it's just something I have. It's a gift. I truly see it as that. It's intuition based. But when I look at that, I go, what can I do most? I can get people to figure out what those actions are that they can take. I can get their path to, for them to get it to market fastest, to get their, their message out there, to get their voice out there. I can build that for them or I can show them how to, how to guide along that in the fastest way possible. Because today it's a speed to market issue. You know, you got to be. You don't have to be first out there, but you have to be fast. And so how can you get out there? And what are those stages along the way where you're spending as little money as possible, but you're constantly scaling up that test? Oh, they want this. Okay, now I can do the next thing. Now I can add the next thing. Okay, now I'm ready to make this product. Now I'm ready to put a shop on my, on my website. Now I'm ready to do these things. Now I'm ready to take advertisers on my podcast, whatever it might be. How can I build it in a way that it grows my movement? So my biz for good is that I can grow other people's businesses. I can give them those tools, the path, the fastest way to make that happen for them. Because the more people they help, the more impact you have.

A little bit of a passion behind it. It sounds like it feels like maybe you really enjoy assisting other people. It feels like that. I'm just saying it's just off the hip.

I do. We were talking about doers before, right? And you know, this is the thing. I know how to do stuff. I'm a how to girl. I've got it covered. And so many people don't understand that and they get overwhelmed by that. And what do I do? How do I do? And to me, that is just simple. And so when I can just bring that and plug it all in for someone and say, this is the easiest, fastest way to do it, and if I can make it as cheap as possible for you too, I will do that. And so, like, that's my ultimate goal.

That's that's so outwardly focused. You're not. You're not taking a gift that you have and then just using it. You're actually using it for not abusing it, but using it.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

And money flows. When you do that, when you find that connection of your. That can really assist people. I mean, there's so many people out there with business models that when it comes down to it, it really doesn't assist that many people, really. But when you have something, the money really will flow. And that's our big mantra, is that it's not about the money, but the money comes when it's not about the money.

Oh, I so agree with that. That is exactly it. Well, we don't measure our revenue. We measure our referral. And so if our. And so. And we actually reward that way too. So I. So I mentioned I have two business. So I have the product business, but I have a podcast platform. So where we grow podcasters. And on that podcast platform, if someone refers someone to us, we give them five free episodes. And so we reward them with production for their. For their show. And so I have some. I have some who've never paid for production. And so rather than write a $500 check, I give them five episodes. And so they love that more. And for us, it's. Yeah. So we've never paid for advertising for our business in the last two years of the current formation of it. And because it all comes from referrals, and we have, We. We've been scaling up on a really consistent basis on that.

It's so cool. Wow. So cool. Well, thank you so much for being on the show. Traci, you're a powerhouse. We can tell that just being around you, that you're a powerhouse. Not only the fact that you're. What do you call it? The thing your bio says, all of the amazing stuff that you've done, just being around you, just for the hour that we've been around you. What an amazing person. That epitomizes what being good and doing good really is and lives it. The key is to live being that way. And it's power. Thank you so much for being on the show. How can people get ahold of you? How can they connect with you? How do we find you guys?

So the businesses are. Has design. Has design.com. and if you really want to check it out, check out the podcast product launch hazards, if you're an inventor. And that's hazards with tv.

Putting that in my podcast, I'm absolutely Putting that in my podcast list.

Subscribe.

Yeah. And then the other one is feed your brand. So if you're truly on the service side and the podcaster side, feed your brand is for you.

Oh, that is so cool. FeedYourBrand.com FeedYourBrand Co FeedYourBrand Co Awesome. Awesome. This has been amazing. Tracy is a powerhouse. We want to leave people wanting more. So, Tracy, thank you. Thank you so much.

Yeah, thanks so much.

Thank you both.

We like to leave the show a little crazy. So, Ryan, you want to take that over?

Thanks, Tracy, for being on the Biz for good show. I've learned so much from you, and we hope to have you back on the show soon. And we always leave the show with the hashtag, be good, do good. Three times. On the third time, Bobby, and everybody goes crazy, so.

Including Cedric.

Cedric, sometimes.

Let's do this, Ryan.

All right. All right. Hashtag be good, do good.

Hashtag be good, do good. Hashtag boo Gun.

Yeah.

Awesome. And that's a wrap.

Thank you for listening to the biz for good show podcast. We want to thank all our fans and guests on the show. Be sure to check us out on all our social media platforms. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. For your hosts, Bobby Glenn James and Ryan Pilkington. This is Tim Jackson saying, get out and do some good. Now go.