Powering Your Podcast Lead Generation With Laura Powers of The Healing Powers Podcast

Wish you were one of those influencers with raving fans who binge on your every word, consume all your content, buy everything you have to sell, and demand even more. Then stay tuned while Authority Magazine columnist and buzzfeed contributor Tracy Hazzard shares strategies, tips and tactics from top videocasters, podcasters, authors and social influencers on creating that bingeable factor. Now let's join Tracy as she explores how to rise above all noise with the Binge Factor.

Hey everyone. Welcome to the Binge Factor. I'm Tracy Hazard and oh my gosh, today's podcast, Healing Powers Podcast. Doesn't that have a great name to it? And the host's name is Laura Powers. Great play on words. I love that she's a celebrity psychic who's been featured in buzzfeed, NBC, abc, cbs, Fox, Motherboard Magazine, Vice, other media outlets. She's a clairvoyant, a psychic medium, a writer, an act actress, a model, producer, writer, singer and speaker who helps other receive guidance and communicate with loved ones. Laura just has the biggest heart. Ever since she was a child, she's seen and sensed ghosts and spirits and she's chosen to learn how to manage those experiencing experiences and using this ability to connect with the angelic and other realms. She now uses her experience communicating with angel spirits and other energy to help her clients better understand and change their lives. Healing Powers Podcast I just love the name of it, but she's been podcasting for almost a decade so she's got lots of experience doing it the hard way and figuring out how and where the value is in podcasting for her. And what I really want you to listen to is because many of you out there are working on podcasts that have long tail results, needs. You don't realize it because we all want that sort of short term boost, but really you have a product that's hard to sell, consulting, coaching, a niche that you're in, just like Laura is, where it's really difficult to explain and sometimes showing is better than telling and that's really where podcasting can come into play for you. So I want you to listen to some of her advice here because that's going to be completely applicable for those of you in this realm.

Welcome to the show Laura. Excited to talk Healing Powers Podcast today. I love the name because I love that it's a play on your own name. So it's a great name to begin with. It invites people in because it's actually describing what you do and what it's about, but then they get to know you and there's that nice play on your last name, and that just does it. It makes people love it even more.

Thank you. Yeah, I feel very grateful for my last name. And yeah, when I was starting my company and I was like, I need like a hook. And it's nice because it just, it catches in and it's easy to remember. So, yeah, thank you.

Well, congratulations are in order. You've reached 100 episodes. So how does that feel?

Yeah, over 200 at this point. It's good. I've been podcasting now for nine years. Over nine years. So, yeah, it's great. I, you know, I think every podcaster starts out very excited, and then you, I think everyone hits a point where you're like, oh, this is a lot of work. Do I really. Do I really want to keep going? I don't know if you've ever hit that wall, but I remember very distinctly when that happened for me and I did consider stopping, and I'm so glad now that I didn't, that I kept going.

What was the decision point? So, like, what was, what were you feeling before it happened that you said, you know, maybe I should quit? And then what tipped you over to saying, no, let's keep going?

Well, I think I was just at a point in my life where I was just feeling a little burnt out, maybe just over committed, maybe not doing enough self care. And at that point, the podcast wasn't monetized in the way that it is now. Like, I was working on those things, but it just wasn't there yet. So it was feeling like a lot of output for me, and I wasn't yet feeling like I had the input. I think I already was, but I just was. I think I was just at a point of feeling a bit of burnout period. And so it was just one of those things where I was like, oh, I don't know if I want to keep going, but thankfully I just paused for a while. Like, there were just several months where I just was like, I'm just not going to really skin an episode. I'm just going to do what I need to do. And then I got back going when I had that energy, and I've been really grateful ever since.

Wonderful. Well, you know, it's interesting, I see from a lot of clients and a lot of podcasters, I hear that same kind of. That they didn't realize the result, the outcome, the things that they were getting in return until they stopped it or until they took that pause and they were like, wow, I'm not Having the same connections. I'm missing phone calls and, like, what. What's not working here? So they didn't realize how rich that was. Sort of changing their daily work habits.

Yeah. And I think, as a general rule, that podcasting is. It's a marathon and not a sprint, you know, So I think we're in a society that wants the results of a sprint. You want, like, kind of instant gratification, and, you know, you want the rewards right away. And, you know, that's great. And that's not to say that there aren't things from podcasting where, like, I immediately hear back from a listener or something, but generally speaking, you release an episode and, like, you don't hear back. Like, that's just kind of the nature of it. And then I'll hear occasionally from someone like, wow, I've been listening to your podcast. I binged all the episodes. They've listened to, like, all nine years of the episodes, and they're like, it changed my life. And that's great, but that's not. That's not every day, especially when you're starting out and you're building your audience. And so I think it's easy to kind of dismiss the results, like what it's doing for you, but then over a longer period of time, as it builds, it becomes more apparent.

Well, let's talk a little bit about that monetization that you've put in place. How did it happen and what does it look like now?

Yeah, so I think, like a lot of podcasters, when I was thinking monetizing, my initial thought was, oh, I need. I need sponsors, I need advertisers. And I have had a fair number of sponsors and advertisers. But what I actually realized was that, for me, the far easier way to monetize is just through my own products and services. So I still do occasionally have advertisers. But I've just realized, like, financially, it just, for the most part, makes sense to just promote whatever it is that I'm doing. And then it's, like, direct money to me, and it's promoting everything that I do. And so I think that was part of my learning curve, because I remember, you know, it's been, like, so much time and energy. This was, you know, several years ago for, like, a $60 ad spot, and I was like, wow, this is a lot of work. That's right. I pretty much realized, like, yeah, I mean, it's great, and I feel honored to, you know, have advertisers. And I still, like I said, I'm open to it if the budget is right. But I just pretty quickly realized like, this makes a lot more sense for me to just promote the things that I'm doing. And I think a lot of podcasters also have like a block against selling and I'm putting down quotes, especially selling themselves, when really it's more just like if you just think of it as sharing whatever it is that you're offering, like if people are listening to you, they're interested in what you're doing because they're listening to you, they chose you.

Why wouldn't they be interested?

Exactly. So I think it's just a mental shift, kind of reframing it and when you do that becomes a little bit easier. But I think like everyone, I did have to work through some resistance about that, be like, I don't want to sell and you know, put myself out there.

What products, what services, what programs have been the most successful for you in terms of sales over your podcast?

Yeah. So for me, you know, everyone's business is different. But private sessions are still my biggest, you know, breadwinner. It's my main thing. I do have many courses and I have seven books and my Bot Kelsey book is going to be my eighth book. So I definitely have, you know, things from all ranges like high priced courses to, you know, $10 books. But the main way that I make income is through private sessions and it's pretty common. I just share. There's for other podcasters that I will hear from someone, they will have listened to all my episodes, like they've listened to all the episodes from nine years. Then they buy my book and then they are buying several books and then maybe they buy a kind of small price course and then they book a session with me. And my sessions are high price, like they're 200 to 800 for an hour. So you know, if someone comes in at that rate, it's often they become a long term client. So it's really great. And you know, but on the other hand, it's good to have like something for people to build towards so that they can feel comfortable sinking in large amount of money like that.

So let's talk a little bit about the genesis, like when you decided that podcasting's for me. I mean you are working in, for those of you who, you know, you heard my introduction of Laura, but you know, this is a metaphysical space. It's talking about healing, it's talking about spiritual things. There's a lot of skepticism to this space that you're in. And that the long tail media that is podcasting is actually ideal. But how did you realize that?

I think it was honestly a psychic hit, because I think about that frequently how strange it was that I started a podcast, because, you know, I started a podcast nine and a half years ago when podcasting was not really known.

No, it was really, really small then.

Yeah, it was. And especially as a woman, like, I remember the first podcast conference that I went to, and it was like 90 or 95% men, very tech oriented. Like, it was a certain type of person that was there and I was really. I was a psychic, I was a woman. I was like, not fitting in that box, like, at all. But it was a thing. I just felt intuitively like I need a podcast. And I wasn't even a podcast listener at that point. Like, I decided to start a podcast before I had listened to podcasts, and it just was this feeling like, I need to do this. And I think it was appealing because of the idea of just being able to start something. You know, there's no gatekeepers. And I think that was just an intuition head of, like, this is going to be important. Even though, I mean, when I first started and I would say I was a podcaster and the first thing people would say is, what's the podcast? I would say for several years, that was the standard response.

Yeah, luckily we, we. We get it less and less nowadays, right? Yes, yes, that's. So that's such a great, you know, that. That you just felt like this was the right thing. I had the same kind of thing when we started ours. It was like, well, it was like a decision video or podcast, and it was like, oh, podcast. This just felt right and seemed easier, more accessible. So when you started, though, there wasn't a lot of courses and tools and easy things that you have now. You've got a podcasting book coming out, you know, like, there's a lot more out there now, but. So what kind of big mistakes did you make? What. How did you find your way?

Yeah, I think I did whatever research I could at that point on the Internet, and it was definitely slow going. Like, I think there was a big learning curve. And I think the biggest mistake or learning thing for me was was just being a little nervous about putting myself out there. And I was also starting with interview format, which I still think is great, but if I could kind of look back on it, I think I would have earlier just done some solo episodes and kind of really focused on what I was offering. I think when I started I didn't really feel like I had as much to offer individually, so. But I was like, hey, I could talk to people. So I found people I could interview and connect with. And so I think that was a great way to start. But if I had earlier on started to just focus on what I was doing, what I was offering, I think I would have monetized it, for example, faster.

When did you make that switch?

Trying to think. I'd have to really look at the episodes to know for sure. But I think it was probably a few years in and it was also kind of in little bits like at the end, like mentioned just a little tiny something. But I was saying, but it wasn't for several years before I did started doing solo episodes.

Interesting. Well, you know, this is the one thing I hear from people so often is like they wish they had made that switch to doing adding solo. Like they don't completely replace all the interviews, but adding it sooner is actually a critical factor for them. So for some of us, our listeners reach out and say, hey, can you do more, More of those? Like, like it happens by accident. You're like, I need to produce one. I have. My guests fell through, we'll just record. And then all of a sudden everybody's like, do more of that.

Yes, exactly. Yeah. People want to hear from just you because they're listening to your show. So yeah, and I think it again is a little bit of a block of putting yourself out there, selling or, you know, being too self focused or whatever. But that's, that's not what it's like at all from an audience perspective.

What's some advice that you're working into your book and what, what are, what's some advice do you have for someone who's just starting?

Yeah, some of it is what we've just talked about. Like you can monetize and start to really get that financial reward much earlier on, you know, and even with advertisers, like it really depends on the niche of your show. And I think the more niched you are, often the more successful you are. Like, I think there's this idea you have to be super broad, but actually when you get really niched in, that's when you could really connect with your ideal listener and you can then also monetize and really start to generate benefit and income.

Do you have a specific advice for those in your niche, for those that are in that sort of spiritual healing world?

I'd say just be really authentic and don't be afraid to be 100% who you are. I think especially in this spiritual psychic realm, there's this, what I call the spiritual coming out of the closet that happens. And some people like, they're, they'll kind of like gradually do it or they'll own it to a degree, but they don't want to be like, too weird, you know, so they'll kind of like tone it down. And I think the more that you're just fully whoever and whatever you are, the better and faster success comes for you.

Let's talk a little bit about the our five things. The best ways too. What are some of the best ways you found to get great guests?

Oh, gosh. Well, one of the things that I think a lot of podcasters don't think to explore is to get press passes for events, conferences, festivals. And I figured that out pretty fast. And you know, again, this was before all venues or all places were considering podcasters traditional media. But I also did video, so that helped. Cause, you know, I could sometimes get a video pass and offer to give them video if it wasn't for my podcast. But once podcasting started to be more recognized, I used that right away. And there's so many benefits to that. 1. You often get access that you wouldn't otherwise. You know, you can get access to speakers that you wouldn't as just a regular attendee, you don't have to pay for the conference, which is really amazing. You know, you have a conference that's like a thousand dollars or something. It was like over a long term, there's a lot of, you know, net income that I've made from not having to pay for those things. And then also you're likely to get access to high profile guests. So one of my early interviews was Dr. Bruce Lipton, who if you're not in this space, he's really well known in the sort of woo woo space, but also in the medical space because he was in the sort of front running part of epigenetics, which is the study of what impacts our genes. So he was a keynote speaker at a conference and he's one of those people that normally has like gatekeepers handlers. So I just walked right up to him and was like, hey, can I interview for my show? And he was like, sure. So I handed him a release form and like then I talked with him for 40 minutes and then once I had him, you know, would I be asking someone else to be on the show? Like, oh, you have Bruce Lipton. And it was like, well, I want.

To be there too.

Yeah, exactly. So that would be one tip I'd say is get. If you can get one kind of well known guest, whether it's through connections or boldness or just happenstance or whatever, it's going to be much easier to get others.

I love that. That's a great tip. What about ways to increase listeners? Have you put in a concerted effort to it or did you let it happen organically?

I think I've just let it happen organically. I think doing guest spots on other successful podcaster shows is always helpful. And if you have something to offer, so you're like, hey, I'd love to have you on my show, you can either offer right away to have guest slots on each other's shows, or you can offer for them to be on your show. And if they have one, a lot of times they will offer for you to be on their show as well.

Nice. Yeah. A podcast swap.

Yes.

Now, you've been producing a long time, so it was in the early days of not having as many producers to help you out, but so how do you produce your show in the most professional way?

Yeah, I think the key to that is to get help and support. You know, most beginning podcasters are trying to do everything themselves. Understand that sometimes the budget issues, sometimes they're just trying to figure it all out. But the sooner you get a team, the easier it's going to be for you and also the faster you'll probably rise in terms of, you know, making money, in terms of professionalism. And I remember that point where I was like, I can't do this. And it was one of those times where I was like, should I, should I just stop this? Because it was, seemed like so much work. But I was editing, I was doing the briefing, I was hosting, I was doing like all the things. And it was right after that that I hired my first help, which was an audio editor. And if you don't do anything else, at least hire an audio editor. Because I'm a firm believer now that if you wouldn't hire yourself to do something, hire someone else to do it. Like, I never had any interest in audio editing or becoming an audio editor. It's not my skillset, it's not my dream, it's not my desire or my strength. Please, here. Thank you. Do this for me.

That's what I did early on.

Oh yeah, really good, good choice there.

That's why we have this full team. So, yeah, you know, yeah, great advice. Love that, that you have a community that you've, you've built around everything. That you've done here, including your products and services and all of those things. How do you encourage engagement in that community and in the podcast listenership?

You know, it is an interesting thing with podcasts, where a lot of times it's like, there isn't that communication, there isn't that engagement. So I found it could be difficult to just get people to initially reach out. One of the things that was actually successful for me, which surprised me, was I started to do these giveaways for reviews, meaning if someone left a review, they could email me a link to their review and I would enter them into a drawing for some prizes. And I made sure that the prizes were significant because people are busy and I'm like, they're not going to write in for like $40. They're like, my prizes are like four to six hundred dollars each time. So high value. So it's hopefully worth it for their time at a chance to win that. And what amazing was the. That would be like the start of the conversation. Like, they would just email me to enter for the prize and then I, you know, say, hey, by the way, where are you based? And thank you for listening. And it would just start a conversation. And some really cool things unfolded for that. And one example, one of my winners, one ended up that prize was based in Ireland. And she's like, you should come to Ireland. She has a nature sanctuary. And I was like, that'd be amazing.

So does sound amazing.

Yeah. So I went to Ireland. I got to see her amazing nature sanctuary. She helped organize a class for me. So I taught a class and saw clients in her town. Then we went the Cliffs of Moore, and just like, it was so magical and amazing and like, that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't done that review contest. So that's just one story. And now she's become, you know, a more significant part of my life and I would consider friend as well. So, yeah, I think just starting having a reason for people to engage is important. So whether it's a review contest like that or something else, give people a.

Reason to reach out, a reason and a value, obviously.

Yeah, that too. Yeah.

We already talked about the best ways to monetize, and that was about our last of the five things. But is there, is there anything else out there that you think is, you know, a missed opportunity in monetization?

Oh, boy. Yeah, I think think the biggest one I already briefly mentioned, but was just your own products and services and just treat it seriously just like as if it was an advertising spot. You know, you. I do. I don't always do pre roll. Sometimes I do pre roll, but I generally do mid roll and post roll. And it's going to be either an advertiser, an affiliate, or something that I'm promoting myself. And also, a lot of podcasters don't really know about affiliates. So that can be a really great way, especially if you don't have sponsors, to start to build in that revenue. And it is important to try to find one that's a good fit. And I would say don't even mess with affiliates if it's not a significant payout. Like, if it's, you know, $10 per payout or something, it's probably not worth it. But over time, it can be significant. And again, with affiliates, it's definitely a marathon. Like, I had one affiliate where, you know, I didn't have any commissions, any referrals for about a year. And then after a year, all of a sudden, it started really doing well. And I still don't really understand that, like, what that's about. But then it became thousands of dol. You know, so it built up over time.

Who knows?

Yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden it was like, yep, it's time. Like, after a year, I don't know why.

I love that. I love that. So. Well, let's talk about it. So you said you've said multiple times that you have binge listeners. Did you ever expect to have binge listeners? And why do you think they binge listen to you?

Yeah, it's a really interesting point. I'll tell a story about one client, and I can share this story because he has shared the story a bunch of times publicly. So there's a man who heard me on a podcast, and by way, in terms of podcast guesting, it doesn't have to be a big show for it to have a significant impact, just like this one. This is not a massive show. I mean, it has a following, but it wasn't like, you know, a show that everyone knows about or something. And he heard me on that show, and then he found my show from that, and then he listened to all my episodes, and then he reached out and booked a session, and he ended up booking several sessions over, you know, time. In that session, I said, you know, eventually you're going to write a book about spirituality, and that's going to be work. And this is a Silicon Valley partner tech in a tech firm. Graduate from Princeton, like, very analytical. Like, he was like, what? I don't know.

Really? That sounds out there.

Yeah. And then a year later he wrote the book and it was a bestseller. He just released his second book. He just quit his work in tech and is focusing on this full time. So anyway, it's really cool for me. So then he told that story. So I think.

Could you share that book with us? Would you?

Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. I should have already. His name is Mark Gober and it's.

Called I Interviewed Mark. I had a feeling that's who you were talking about.

Oh my gosh. Well, I think you're very intuitive. Yeah. So he wrote the book An End to Upside Down Thinking, which is about consciousness. And then his next book that he just released is An End to Upside Down Living, which is how to Live.

I haven't checked that one out yet.

It just came out, I think last month, so it's brand new.

Well, I'll have to check it out. And I had no idea he quit.

His job, but tell him I said hi. I will.

The End to Upside Down Thinking was probably one of the hardest books I had read in a long time. You think, oh, it's gonna be. It's about spirituality. It's about like, you know, some of this woo woo stuff.

It's gonna be an easy read.

And it is not. It is brain challenging to read this?

Oh yeah. And it's very academic, you know, and it's, it's cool for me because like, I'm a psychic. I'm super woo. Like, I don't, I don't need the science. I just experience it and I know that it's happening. But for people who really need to understand why this is a thing we should consider and consciousness, you know, to understand it more fully, I think that's a great book because it really gets them to think about and question.

Well, how interesting. So our worlds are all connected here as we start to find that, well, you know, this is the other thing. So I usually like to give everybody a little bit of hint on why I think your show is bingeable. And I think it is because you're in a niche. You're in a realm that is. Can have a lot of fake, can have a lot of fakeness to it, can have a lot of overstatement. And you're not, you're really understated in the process of how you communicate and how you interview and even how you talk about your topics. Right. So you, you have this laid back, easygoing way about it. And it's just, it is what it is. And I think that that's part of what's so bingeable and so attractive to it? It doesn't feel like you're pushing this idea on us or any of those things. Right. And that. That comes across as. I'm sure that's very. Just authentically you, as I'm getting to know you here. But it's. It is, I think, a trait that you don't see and listen to as much in the. In the niche that you're in.

Thank you. Yeah, I think if you just are authentic to yourself, whatever that is for you, you will attract people. And I think think that's with Mark Gober. And also, at the time, there weren't as many shows in this space, you know, so I was one of the unusual podcasts. There are more and more now, as, you know, time has gone on. But, yeah, I think just being authentic to you and being comfortable, and that also comes with time. I mean, when I first started podcasting, I was definitely nervous with some of my guests. Just like, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm Lasija, or I'm interviewing this big, you know, famous person. But now I'm just like, no, just. We're just talking, you know, and I think that comfort comes across and people enjoy just hearing a casual conversation between two people and something that's interesting.

Well, you know, one of the things that I always like to cover and sort of understand about. Do you have a plan for the future? Do you have things that you'd like to try, some new challenges with your podcast?

Yeah, well, I'd really love to expand, and I would say just grow with that. Like, I love my podcast. I think I will always be podcaster. But to continue, I'm wanting to do more video. I want to do my own television show. So I'm not sure if the podcast. Podcast will kind of morph into that or if I'll just have a second thing, but that's definitely a vision that I have to get out there and get even more mainstream. Even though I'm fairly mainstream at this point. I just really. I want to bring some of these ideas about the psychic realm and spirituality to a major place because I think it's so important right now, especially when we're in these, like, major trauma and transition. It's so helpful. And for me, my opening into the spiritual realm happens during the recession. So I feel like there's a lot of parallels between what's happening right now with the pandemic and everything that's as a result from that. And the recession is just on A bigger scale and a more global scale. And what really saved me was spirituality and my abilities, my intuition. And so I want to share that with people because I think it's such a lifesaver, literally.

I think you're right. So, you know, you're tapping into something that is, you know, I always like to talk about on the show, and that is the authority value, the increase in industry expertise and being seen, heard, and found. What are some of the things? Because, I mean, it seems that you've become. You've gotten a lot of press, you've been on a lot of television spots. So, like, how has that happened? Did it happen some of it because of the podcast?

Oh, absolutely. I think I could tie almost everything in one way or another back to the podcast. Even when I started to do television, you know, I even heard about one of the ways that you pitch, which is harrow through a podcast guest, you know, and it was like, oh, and then I heard that, and then that's where I got my first television booking, you know, so even little things like this that are significant, like even hearing about resources through podcasts, casting and guests, is really important. But, yeah, I think especially as you get into some of, like, the bigger media, like, if I. When I was on the Will Ferrell podcast, the Rod Burgundy Podcast, when I was invited to be on that show, if I hadn't had a reel and had something that was really professional, I wouldn't have gotten that, and I wouldn't have gotten there without podcasting. Absolutely. And that is one of my pieces of advice for podcasters is even if you haven't had any major media make a real. Like, even if it's audio only, just like, there's a video that actually the team from Ron Burgundy podcast made. It's, like, less than a minute. It's a video of the audio, and it has our pictures, the Wilfred pictures, Ron Burgarty and me, and then. And then it has the transcription of what we're seeing underneath.

So it's like an audiogram for those.

Of you who are familiar with that audiogram. Yep. And, you know, that's awesome. Like, you can do that, and you can do a real version of that, meaning, like little excerpts from highlights of various shows. And if you do that, you're going to look. You're going to rise above from others, because almost no one does that. But it's really great if you can, as you're pitching yourself, and you can say, here's my reel. Here's my podcast reel.

I love that. That's a great suggestion. So you're writing a book on podcasting. What's it going to be about?

Yeah, so it's basically how to launch, grow and monetize your show. So I think wherever you are in your podcasting journey, if you just want to learn about monetizing and you already have launched your podcast, you know, that section I think is going to be really helpful. I also have a chapter that's on how to get media. So that's been huge for me. Like every, there's one particular show every time I was on that show and I've been on there many times. You know, their segment reaches 2 million, you know, so 2 million people that were exposed to me, you know, that kind of thing is so important. So for advanced podcasters, those would be the sections that I think would be really great for you. And then also just basically starting from the beginning, if you're starting out as a podcaster or want a podcast. How do I start? Where do I go? What are the companies that I have worked with that I would recommend, you know, how to work through imposter syndrome.

All things, these, that stuff, such important things.

Yes.

Well, Laura, thank you so much for coming on the show and thank you for sharing all of your journey in podcasting because it's been a nine and a half year journey. That's quite a journey there. I wish you luck. I wish you another 200 plus episodes and look forward to hearing more.

Thank you so much, it's been such a pleasure.

Wow, really bingeable show. Definitely something worth checking out. Healing Powers Podcast, Laura Powers, she just, she is got an energy about her. She as you could hear it in her voice, you can feel it as you're watching this, that energy is translating into her show and it's creating this excellent binge able factor that is really helping people trust her faster. And when you trust her, especially when you're in the world of selling something that's so difficult to explain that where the results aren't quite as tangible and it is actually in the intangible that her brilliance lies. So you have this, you have a media that is working for, for her. It's working on building her authority, working on building her expertise and visibility in the marketplace, getting her more media out there. Buzzfeed, right? Abc, NBC, Fox, she's got all of it going on because of her podcast. And that's what she said. All those threads trace right back through to her podcast. That's the power, the Laura Powers has the Healing Powers podcast and it truly is a great example of what you can do in podcasting and how you can be successful in your core business and in your core programs and what you have to offer to the the world. So check it out. I really think you're gonna enjoy the show as well. It's quite enlightening. And her interview style is really nice and laid back, so you're also gonna learn something from that. But take a listen to the two different types of episodes because that's really useful. Remember, we talk about how do we balance this idea of having topic based and having interviews at the same time. She's got that going on in her show and so you can check that out really nicely and see a great example of how you might apply that and model that for your own show. So as always, I'm always looking for great new podcasters. Laura came to me through recommendations and that's how I'd love to receive you too. So if you're interested in being on the Binge Factor, you can go to the bingefactor.com and apply. But you could also just send us an email, send me a message on LinkedIn or somewhere on social media and suggest a show that you love or suggest your show to me. I'm always looking for something new that I can bring you all some of the most successful and interesting shows out there and some of the best models for how to create success for you and how to create your own binge factor. I'm Traci Hazzard and I'll be next time with another episode of the Binge Factor.

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