The Law Of Podcast Audience Attraction With Michele Joy, Host of The Law of Attraction Podcast (Podfaded)

Wish you were one of those influencers with raving fans who binge on your every word, consume all your content, buy everything you have to sell, and demand even more. Then stay tuned while Authority magazine columnist and buzzfeed contributor Tracy Hazzard shares strategies, tips and tactics from top videocasters, podcasters, authors and social influencers on creating that bingeable factor. Now let's join Tracy as she explores how to rise above all noise with the binge factor.

Hey everyone. Welcome to the Binge Factor. I'm Traci Hazzard and I have a great podcast for you today. Law of Attraction in Action. And the host, Michelle Joy, she's just got a great show. She's been doing this for really quite some time and she has just absolutely a fabulous show that attracts great listeners. Right? It's the Law of Attraction in Action is actually what her show is all about. So she's an internationally recognized law of attraction coach, podcaster, author, speaker, blogger, and her podcast is being heard in over 100 countries helping thousands of people. She has video blogs, 365 Days of Miracle Moments. She offers daily inspiration in her life changing book, Thrive and How to Find Happiness When Life Falls Apart. She helps people find hope again when they thought there was none. She spent years as a registered nurse working with the dying. That has given her a mountain of compassion for people. Her great mission is to help people live their lives fully and never die with regret. She lives in Portland, Oregon and she has been doing this since June 2018. She's got over 140 episodes. She just has such beautiful energy in what she does. Like she's truly living the law of attraction in what she does and how she pushes her message out there. And I completely enjoyed my conversation because it is her style of relationship building and conversation that really leads to the success of her show. And she models that here as a guest as well. So everyone, Michelle Joy.

Michelle, so glad you could be here and so glad we could get this rescheduled. I think my voice is on the mend here.

Awesome. I'm so glad to hear your voice. It's a beautiful voice.

Thank you so much. Law of Attraction in Action is the name of your show. You know, I love that you're using that about the action part because I think that's the part where it falls apart. So often with people, they just think I just have to manifest it. I just have to think about it.

Yeah. And you know, I've been teaching this for years. I taught a group and here in Portland, Oregon, which is where I live. And I taught it through, like, a meetup every other week. And I heard so many people's stories, and I realized what helped people with Law of Attraction is hearing people's stories, and. And people were actually making it work in their lives. Because, again, there's one thing. You can read a book, you can watch the movie the Secret, which is how most people come into the Law of Attraction, but it's to actually do something with it. It's the hardest part. And again, that name just came to me, so I'm very grateful. Cause it's a perfect name, but it's exactly what I teach about. And what my guests share is like using it in their lives.

So you've been doing this since 2018. How has it gone for you? Did you just decide one day to do it and it was unexpected and everything's been good, or has it been rough? What's happened?

This is a great story. I'm so glad to share this here, because it truly was miraculous. So one thing that I do, part of Law of Attraction is I have a lot of faith in the universe, and I always just leave it to the universe. Okay, what's next? Of course, I always follow that inspiration, but I often have to get in that quiet place. And it happened when I did an event that nobody showed up for. I don't know if anyone else can understand that, but it sucks.

It's like having a party, right? Yeah. And no one shows. I know. I feel for you.

Yeah. So I was like, you know, I had a moment of like, okay, I can be devastated, or I can follow my joy, which is I was doing a video vlog called 300 Days of Joy. And so I'm like, no, I'm going to follow my joy. And I went to this beautiful winery. And. So funny, it's not even relevant to the podcast, but it is, because I sat in this winery, and I just was like, this is so beautiful. And the people owned it, were so amazing. And how they made this miraculous winery out of nothing. And all of a sudden, I just had this inspiration of a podcast. And earlier that day, someone, a friend that I met a long time ago, she did a podcast. Just one. She did one podcast. And so that planted that seed, right? I'm like, oh. And then it came to me that day, I'm like, I could do a podcast because I love speaking and I'm not afraid to talk. And this is great, because I can just get out there. And so I messaged her. I said, how did you do that. She goes, oh, go. You know, go here, go there. I'm like, okay, perfect. So literally, literally that next day, it may have been that day I recorded my first podcast. That title came to me when I was at the winery and I was like, that's it, that's what I'm doing. But I knew nothing. I knew nothing. And to me, it's a great story because truly, this podcast has been in the flow for me. I've had no problem getting guests. I've met people, amazing people from all over the world. Every time I hear their story, I am like just sky high and high vibration and feeling great. And very quickly, I think it's within six months, I reached 10,000 listens.

Wow, that's fantastic.

Right? And I know nothing about podcasting.

Yeah, no one's showing up at your event, but they all show up to listen. Wow.

Right, Right. And so at that point, it just kept going up exponentially. And I've never had a problem getting a guest. And again, to me, it's been an easy, because I've been in my joy. I love teaching because then I started adding in solo sessions. But it's been a very easy flowing journey. But I get to teach what I love. And because it's an attraction based universe. Right. I'm attracting people all the time who love to share their stories. So it's a win. Win, right?

Absolutely. But you didn't know what you were doing. There had to have been some hiccups along the way. So did some funny things. So what happened? And then how did you not let it derail you?

Yes. Okay. So at the beginning, I didn't know how to record it, so I think I did Zencastr. Have you heard of Zencastr?

Yep. Absolutely.

Because then I'm like, oh, you have. The sound quality's better. But then I kept having glitches. And actually, it probably wasn't you back then.

In 2018, they were having glitches because they were new.

Right. So I did my intro and then I did an interview right away and I did it on anchor, which is where I have my platform. And right away, in the middle of the interview, it cut off and I lost everything. And I was like. And luckily they're friends of mine. I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like, I don't know how to get this back. We're going to have to rerecord. But I had to find something else. So, yeah, it's where I was recording. It was a huge challenge and it's so funny, Tracy, because I'm now taking all my podcasts and putting into a book right now, which is really exciting. And so as I'm downloading all my audio, I'm listening to my very beginnings. And they're so bad. Like, the sound quality is bad. But you know what, though, is the content's good. And so I keep them there. And I think it's good to keep it there for authenticity so people know the journey. But I didn't know how to do commercials. I didn't know how to intro or extra. I didn't know any of it. I just, like, put a little bit of music in and just hope for the best. Like, it's been a journey.

Yeah, but how did you let these challenges not derail you?

I guess I just knew that I had a good thing and I knew that people needed to hear these stories. I think that's been what's driving me is I know how amazing our lives can be when we live in the law of attraction, when we understand the universal energies. And so much of what I've learned is being a full time entrepreneur. I've only been a full time entrepreneur for two years. I used to be a nurse. So to me, nursing and entrepreneurship are two different things.

I would think so, yeah.

So that's been the journey in itself. But I guess I just. Because I have this passion of teaching this and having that trust in spirit, and there's days when I have bad days and I'll just go for a walk and I'll just go out in nature, I really find ways to get into alignment and I cry. I talk to my sweetie. And he's an entrepreneur. He's now a business owner because his business has grown. So I have a great support system, but definitely has not been easy. But the easy part is every time I get on the computer with the microphone with my guest, I'm on cloud nine. And that's what keeps me going, you.

Know, that's so important. I think that you point that out because too early on, not everyone has the great success that you did of hitting 10,000 in a quick amount of time. Their plays at the beginning can be a little devastating if they're all in their numbers and not in the moment of the interviews. So I think that's a better indicator of how, if you're enjoying that, if your guest is enjoying that, if that feels good, you're onto something.

Honestly, Tracy, I never thought about the numbers when I hit that 10,000. It was like, oh, my God. And again, I didn't know what to compare to because I wasn't even really listening to podcasts that much.

You're not alone. I could tell you, like, 90% of the people I interview on this show who are podcasters are not listeners, which is shocking to me.

Yeah, I do listen to some now, but at the beginning, I didn't listen, I think. Cause I didn't want to. That competition feeling of like, oh, my God, they're doing it so much better than me. I'm not gonna listen to them. Cause then I will never compare to them.

This is why I'm not an author. Because I've read thousands and thousands of books. Sometimes I read like 300 a year. So it's, like, intimidating to me. Like, the book just sits on my credenza because I'm like, this is still isn't good enough. It's still not up to my standard. Would I read this book? Right.

But, you know, I wrote my book the same way. So I've written a book, and that book came out exactly the same way. I'm like, it's just a challenge for myself to see if I can do it. And this is the podcast. It's a challenge to see if I can do it. So I actually really took this as a challenge to see if I can do it and just see what happens. But I didn't really focus on the numbers. Now I do a little bit more, I admit. And now I'm like, well, this is cool. Cause I get. Now I get excited because the numbers are so high. So I'm trying to not get too wrapped up in that. But it is exciting to see. But I think it's so important for people who are listening to know that you just have to do what you love and you have to trust it's going to work out and just not focus on the numbers and not focus on what other people are doing too. Again, that's maybe why I've not listened to many podcasts, because except for, like, you know, Oprah, the big ones, I'm like, okay. It's okay that they're totally dialed in.

They've got production teams.

You're great. And by the way, I've also done everything on my own, done my editing. I've done everything. And that's been pretty crazy.

Wow.

Yeah.

That takes a lot of time. So you said you just started this journey as a entrepreneur a couple of years ago. So that means that you had to build some fast authority into the marketplace, into getting people to notice you. How has podcasting tapped into that for you. How has it been? Has it created a quicker path?

Yes, it's been huge. Huge. I'm getting people from all over the world. I'm heard in almost 100 countries. So I would get messages from people like, in New Zealand, in Asia, India. I mean, it's just crazy that I'm reaching the world. Like, it's so funny because I always had this dream that I'd speak in front of, like, thousands of people. And then one day, I had this epiphany. I'm like, I'm not really going on speaking. And then I'm like, wait a second. I'm reaching tens of thousands of people with my podcast, and I don't have to leave my living room. Like, right now. I have my slippers on. Like, how great is that? Like, how many people can go speak and have their slippers on? Maybe some people do, but it's really. The reach has been amazing. And I think because I share my heart so much on this podcast, and I share my passion, people are starting to see the authentic me. And that's been important for me, too, is being able to share who I really am. Because I think there's a lot of coaches out there in the world who you don't really know who they are. And you go to hire them, you're like, I don't really know who you are. And so I wanted people to know who I was. And so it's to the point now I have almost, like, fans. Well, they'll email, like, oh, my gosh, you changed my life. Or I had a woman recently on my podcast. She reached out to me on Facebook. I said, I really want you on my podcast. And she's a big fan. First thing she says to me, she's like, oh, my God, this is like a dream come true. I can't believe I'm on your podcast.

That happened to me this past week. I told you we were doing this podcast, Blitzline, and someone walks up to me and is like, I can't believe I get to be on your show. Like, it was like, okay.

Like, it's really cool. But I'm like, no, no, we're just the same. Just come sit over here by me. We're fine. Then I attract, though, guests that are like, New York Times. I just had a New York Times bestselling author reach out to me to be on my podcast. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, I did. Nothing came to me. So that's where the authority is really coming out, is that I'M getting respected enough that I'm attracting amazing guests and I'm attracting guests who are my fans, which then makes it real for everybody.

That's right. Has it led to speaking engagements and other things that you didn't imagine was going to happen?

It's definitely led to more business. It's helped my coaching business for sure. And it's led to like interviews like this. It's led to a lot more of the online connections. Absolutely. Yeah.

Wonderful. So I'm going to ask you kind of our five questions. These are tips for someone new starting out and really just want to kind of tap into some of your thoughts on how you do this. And you know, for some of us, we sit back and we go, I don't know, we just do it. But hopefully you'll be able to come up with something. So lessons, stories, anything that you have on some of the best ways to book great guests.

I think some of the best ways is, well, I always put a shout out every single podcast. I say I want to hear from you. If you have a story you want to share on my podcast, reach out to me. But actually come to think of it, I haven't gotten a ton that way. So I think probably the best recommendation is I just do people who I respect. I'll do a shout out to them like, hey, I'm looking for guests. Do you know of anybody? And these people I know have a big group of a network, a big network that are people that I know would be in my realm. Sometimes I'll just do a basic post on Facebook or Instagram like, hey, I'm looking for guests or LinkedIn. But I honestly though, because I know we live in an attraction based universe, for me it's more of I just put that energy out that I will track the best people to interview. And I also do not pre screen people. And I know a lot of podcasters do, but I don't because I have absolute faith that people who are going to come to me are the right people. So I don't do an interview beforehand. I literally just do a quick questionnaire just to make sure they know what law of attraction is. Because I've had one woman I met at a networking group where she did not know Law of Attraction and I'm like, how's this going to work out? But it worked out great. I do trust that the universe will bring me the right people. And because I'm putting out that energy so like attracts like and I always.

Get the right people, I do the same thing I don't do pre interviews for that same reason. I just believe that if they were meant to be in my path, they are. And at the end of the day, you always have a choice not to air something.

Absolutely.

It rarely happen. But you know, same here.

Yep. So that's probably my biggest suggestion or the biggest thing for me is just trust.

That's great. And what about some ways to increase listeners? I mean, you know, it's great that you found you were there, but do you do some active things to. Do you take some actions to increase those listeners?

Well, the biggest thing, I think that part of why I've been so successful is I've been very consistent on my post. I post every Monday and Thursday at 7am consistently. I've also been very consistent in my message. I always start with the same intro and people have told me they're like, I love because I do like the sing song. I do. Welcome to Love, Attraction and Action. So every podcast I start with that. And so people say, I've heard the feedback is I love your sing songy voice.

When they talk to me, like with the discovery session, with coaching, like, I miss your sing songy voice. But I post twice a week and I also share it on social media, every single post. So I think that's helped.

Absolutely. Yeah. So now you said you produced the show all yourself, which is really surprising because you've come so far and it has a great sound. So your sound levels are really good and all of those things. Cause I've checked it out. So what do you do to produce it in a professional way?

Well, I honestly, it's my Lovely Mac and GarageBand. It's my best friend and sometimes it actually is fine. I don't need much editing, but I've learned through YouTube how to do all my own editing and it's actually been fun for me. Like I've actually done my own commercials and I just find music. I've learned where to find music, actually paying or not stealing it. Right. And I've learned how to just make like I've done sponsorships. I think a lot of it was just grassroots, getting on YouTube and finding out how to do it. But GarageBand's been my best friend. Although today it's not working. But that's a whole separate thing. Today I'm like, what's wrong with you?

But that's okay because I'm recording today, not you. So we got it covered.

Yeah. So that's, you know, anchored. This is who I do it through has been really easy I'm very grateful for that. And again, I probably am not doing everything right. I see other people, I'm like, oh, I should be doing that. But I'm like, the numbers are showing. It's still working. So, of course, there's always room for improvement. That's kind of where I've learned to do it, is my Mac GarageBand and YouTube.

So you encourage engagement in your community. How do you do that?

Absolutely. Well, I have a Facebook group, so I always encourage people to go to that Facebook group. And so that's a way to connect with me. That's the thing, you know, even though they hear me and I get emails from people, I always encourage them to either email me or go to my website or go to my Facebook group. And the Facebook group is. But I get a lot of people even just joining me on social media. They'll send a message on Instagram or just on my Facebook. So I'm pretty an open book. But every single podcast episode, I encourage people to reach out to me. I always tell people, like, please, I'm approachable. Don't be afraid to talk to me.

You can absolutely talk to me. I love that. That's really great. I think that's where they do feel that separation. So for you to make it clear that you're approachable is important.

Yes. Yeah. And that's why I think it's important to have, like, my fans be a guest. And like I said, I recently had this guest and who's a big fan, and even though she was starstruck by being with me, she did acknowledge that I'm so approachable. And I've had coaching clients come to me, like, right away. They're like, oh, my gosh, I love you. I can't believe I'm talking to you. But, like, the reason I'm calling is because you are approachable. You sound approachable. So that's been always very important to me. Yeah.

So I love that you've said you've monetized your show, you've taken sponsors and other things like that. What were some of the best ways that you found to do that?

You know, that's also been grassroots. Just people I know. So that's something I want to learn more about. And how to increase the monetization of my podcast. That's part of my learning curve right now. So I'm glad to be part of your community. I'm going to maybe. I'm sure you can teach me a.

Lot, but I think that might be why we're attracted Here, because you're in the right place now, because that's what we talk about all the time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's something I put in my vibration, like I need to learn how to monetize my podcast. So there you go.

Well, you've certainly earned the right. So that's also part of it that sends you on your way. So this show has been shifting from feed your brand center of influence, which we're still talking about the center of influence, but we're shifting and talking about some. The binge factor, the things that make our show so bingeable, because it sounds like you've got some fans that started with you from the beginning, have stayed with you, and you have others that find you go back to the beginning, listen to all of them, and then start communicating and connecting with you. So you've got a binge factor going on in your show. What do you think it is?

I think part of it's my energy because I try to exude joy and love, because when I, you know, when you teach what you love, you do exude that. And for me, I just love it so much. And I talk. I really, from what I'm hearing from people is I have very loving, energetic approach with people. And so people feel good just even hearing me hearing the interviews, it's so crazy. Every time I do an interview, we just. At the end, we're, like, so bonded, and, like, the energy between us is like, oh, my gosh, like, I want to give you a virtual hug. And I just met this person. So the connection we get is infectious. And so people who are listening. And again, I've heard this from people, too, but they feel our energy because we're talking about positivity. We're talking about what is possible. We're talking about giving people hope when there isn't any. We talk about the traumas of life. We talk about real issues, because truly, most people come into the law of attraction when their life falls apart over and over and over again. I'm like, oh, my God, I can't do this anymore. You know, I got hit by a car. Like, the pain was so bad, I had to find a way to change my mindset. And so people get hope from my podcast, and they hear the love from me and my guest. So I think those are things that keep people listening.

So I always then step in and say what I think the binge factor is because I review so many shows. So I think you're right. Absolutely. It's the energy. But what happens is that energy, because you're connecting with your guests, puts you into a conversational mode. So you don't just ask questions and get answers. You're having a conversation back and forth. So we're now, we're now like sitting on the outside feeling the energy of it, but we're also like. It's kind of like we're eavesdropping a little. And so it's got a little bit of that factor going on. So, yeah, it's that conversational style you're developing in there that is another reason that it's bingeable.

Thank you for your feedback. Yeah, no, I do feel like it's fun. It's just like. And again, if there's a bird on the wall or a fly in the wall. Right. Just listening and it would be a fun little conversation here. And that's how I feel. It's just, we're just talking.

So now most people, you know, that I get to interview here don't always edit their own show. And so how do you feel about it? Does that make you more critical? Are you like, do you edit heavy? Because. Does it make you.

No. Okay. So we all have these personality types. And there's the promoter, controller, supporter analyst. I'm very much a promoter supporter analyst. I'm nothing. And so analysts are the ones who care about the details. And I don't, which you maybe can tell about my beginning podcast that I don't. But I can do enough editing without being self critical. I also feel like perfectionism is a curse and it keeps people from getting things done. So I'm absolutely not a perfectionist. So that being said, I do love the editing part as far as, like, I take out certain things that big pauses or there's a dog barking in the background. Like, I can edit minimal, but I also don't think it's important to over edit because I think people want to hear the realness of the conversation. So I don't edit too much, but I will edit things that if I say something really stupid sometimes I'll edit it out.

There's just a little bit of self.

Censor there going on at that moment. We can take that out. Nobody needs to know that.

You know, I think it wouldn't serve you if you did because of that conversational style you have going. If you have a edited, you would derail the energy that you have going on.

Right, Right. So I don't always edit. Honestly, it's just big things. Like today's podcast I was trying to edit. There's A big pause. And I couldn't edit it because GarageBand wasn't working. So I said, you know what? It's fine. He was drinking water. It's all good.

People can pause for that. That's fine.

Right? Okay, just let him drink his water. But you're kind of saying, like, what's he going to say then? Maybe it's a cliffhanger. Maybe it's good. So I just left it in.

Do you have really big guests out there? Like, hey, I want to announce it right here, so I might attract that.

Well, I just had Christy Whitman, who is a best selling author, New York Times bestselling author, and I honestly didn't know who she was initially, but I actually downloaded her book and I'm listening to it and I'm like, oh, my gosh, this woman's kind of big. Like, she's been on today's show and Good Morning America and People magazine, all that. And I was like, oh, my gosh, she's coming to me. So I had like a total upper limiting moment, like, why is she coming. Coming to my show? But it was a really down to earth conversation. And she was very, like, approachable and very loving. And I was so honored to have her on the show. And so I do get. I don't know if you get this, but I get agents who will bring their guests to me. So I have a couple agents. Again, I didn't solicit them. They just found me. So that's the benefit. I'm. They're now finding me and connecting with their guests to me. So I do get some amazing people. But so far, she's been at the cream of the crop and I'm. And also when she said, I was so excited. If anyone knows Law of Attraction, but Lisa Nichols was in the movie the Secret, and she's one of my favorite motivational speakers. And Christy just name dropped, she's like, oh, my good friend Lisa Nichols. I'm like, oh, my gosh, are you crazy? I want her on my show.

Right.

I didn't say anything, but I figured the universe will make it happen.

So make it happen.

Lisa Nichols could be on my show.

Well, I can also make that happen.

Awesome.

I have connection to her as well. Listen out there, all of you listening into this, it's like when you ask, it starts happening. That's part of the action piece. Right?

Right. You have to ask. Right? This is what I love about this podcast and I have this passion, but nobody's going to note that unless I tell people. Unless I Get it out there. And so now, twice a week, and I'm amazed, like, I can come up with a solo session every week. For now, 52 weeks, I've done a solo session where I teach. And how do I come up with all this stuff? It's a creative outlet for me. I love it.

So that's another thing. Just want to kind of point that out to all of the listeners out there that Michelle has tapped into. So when you do solo sessions, especially when you're a coach, in addition to your interview sessions, your business does better at the end of the day because your audience isn't just liking you, they're now getting a taste of you.

Yeah. Yeah.

So that's another reason why her business is benefiting from her show and what she's doing there.

And even my coaching clients, they're with me all the time, and they still listen to my podcast all the time. And then they come back to me like, you know, I just heard your podcast this week. Can we talk about that? So it's kind of cool when they.

Start quoting you to you, right? Like, it's awesome.

I'm like, I heard this really good podcast. I'm like, they're like, who was it? They're like, is blah, blah, blah. That was mine. Like, oh, yeah, your podcast.

Gotta love that. That's really awesome. So. So do you have something that's next? Is there something on the forefront? Are you going to shift some things in your show? You're just going to, you know, keep going the way that it is? Is there something that you want to change in what's going on in the future?

Well, I'm definitely, like I said, I'm working on a book, so I'm putting together, and actually I have enough for two books now because I have so much information to kind of help people still reach this great. All these great stories. I have so many great stories in my podcast. I can't. It's like, oh, my gosh, how lucky am I? But beyond that, I'm, you know, I want to actually start helping people learn to do podcasting, too, and learn to get their message out in the world. So I am kind of shifting gears a little bit and moving into a little bit of the marketing, which is funny because I'm actually hired a coach right now to help me with, of course, the reach in my business. And she. And I said, well, you know, I'm just a nurse. I'm not a marketer. She's like, you need to stop that conversation, because obviously you've done well. And it's like, okay, okay, so everyone's.

A salesperson and everyone's a marketer.

That's it.

That's right.

I know. And it's. It's holding me back by saying I'm not a marketer. But though I do, I do see just so many exciting things in. But I'm also very open to wherever I go. I mean, of course I see me do more speaking engagements and getting the book out. And I think this book is going to be fantastic, to be honest. Really, really good. So we're just saying that out loud.

Do you have a title yet?

Probably Law of Attraction in Action.

So you're going to use a similar title, which I think is really good. So. Well, wonderful. Well, is there anything else that. Any other tips for someone starting out that you'd like to share with our audience?

I think people don't need to complicate it. This is the thing that I've learned by starting this podcast. Not knowing anything. And I wouldn't consider myself a super savvy tech person. Like I said, I'm not an analyst. I'm not very detailed. But I got out there and I did it and I figured it out and it does not have to be that hard. I've heard people say, you know, recording my podcast, we have the whole season, it's coming out next year. And I'm like, what do you mean, next year? Like, literally, I will post one sometimes I'll put it out, like, the very next day. I can get it turned around so quickly. So don't let the tech part intimidate you because it does not need to be hard. And just show your heart, show your passion, show your love, and it'll do fine.

Well, Michelle, Joy, thank you so much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Law of Attraction and action. There's lots of bingeable episodes here, so you're going to want to go through from the beginning or go in reverse from the end. That's how I did it. And enjoy yourselves and get a chance to experience more of Michelle's wonderful energy.

Thank you for having me.

So I hope you all enjoyed Michelle as much as I did. The Law of Attraction in Action is such a great message and I know all of you are out there. I hear it all the time. I hear about your. The energy you're putting out there. I hear about the ideas that you have. But she's pointing out something that I think and I believe in my soul is so critical. And that is the action you take and it really has tied back to making sure that you do something of great value, that you take action on that. So moving that law of attraction, not just being mindset but being into something that's action taking. So I hope that you take energy, the excitement, the conversation with Michelle, the advice that she's given and you take that and you translate that into action to starting your podcast, your binge able show and you build in your great binge factor that becomes uniquely yours. Just like Michelle has her unique one as well and that is that conversational style and the way that she builds her interviews. So I love that we get to bring you these every week. I get excited about it. I learned something new from every single podcaster. I'm really excited about some of the ones I've got coming up for you, so you're not going to want to miss out. So make sure you subscribe, rate and review the binge factor in itunes and any platform that you can. I would love to hear your feedback about podcasters that you follow and you love and that you would like me to interview because I'm happy to offer that as well. And if you are a podcaster listening to this, so you already started your show and you'd like to be on my show, make sure you apply. Go to the bingefactor.com where we have all the blogs for this episode, have all the links to Michelle Joy and to the Law of Attraction in action, of course. And really make sure that you are taking these tips to heart and you're growing your show as well. There's lots of little nuggets here that you can take away and you can apply and take action on today. Thanks everyone for listening. I'm Traci Hazard and I'll be back next time with another podcaster and their binge factor.

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