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Good morning, everybody. This is Joshua T. Bergland's Morning Gratitude brought to you by Soco Cannabis Creations. You can go to SoCo Cana.com use the promo code LIVE MANA and save 15%. We are also sponsored by Truvita Recovery. You can go to truvita.com T R U V I D A.com if you have anyone that's in need of need of recovery, please check them out. They have world class facilities. They have outpatient services. You can check them out@truvita.com and also want to give a shout out to Keys Creek Lavender Farm. Pretty cool company. Check them out at KCL F A R M dot com Good morning, everybody. So this is Joshua T. Bergland's Morning Gratitude brought to you by Live Mana World, coming to you live from Live Mana Worldwide Studios.

Golly. So I'm gonna start doing the intros a little bit different than normal because I love playing music. Good morning, John. Good morning, Bonnie. I want to give a shout out to everyone listening right now on iHeartRadio, everyone listening on iTunes, everyone list and watching on YouTube and Facebook and every other stinking platform. The show is going out on now. Hello, welcome to Joshua T. Berglund's Morning Gratitude. So it's fun. I totally, I've lost sight of why I do this show. I love, I love hearing what other people are grateful for. But it's wrong that I'm not sharing what I'm grateful for. So I'm going to give you three things at the end of, at the beginning of each show that I'm grateful for and then I'm going to play music that then I'm going to introduce the guest and we're going to do it like that. Oh, and if you're wondering who the heck I'm talking to, I'm talking and interacting with the Facebook audience where you can check us out at Joshua T. Bergler's Morning Gratitude. Good morning, Bethany. Good to see you, Bonnie. John, amazing to see you. So today I'm grateful for the abundance of love I have in my life. I have an amazing group of friends, an amazing group of people who support me and I just am extremely grateful for them because without them, I would not have the opportunities that I have in my life. Very, very grateful for them. I'm also grateful.

For the abundance of I say love. What did I say? Oh, the abundance of opportunities. What is wrong with me? I can't even read my own writing. I'm grateful for the abundance of opportunities because it's really funny How I just started doing this show on a. On a phone, and now because of that, it has grown to giving me opportunities to speak on stage, to be able to emcee an event of people that I highly respect, look up to, and a lot of them I get to call friends. That is an amazing opportunity. And just being in the position to endorse brands and get some of the exposure that I need for my mission and my cause. I'm very grateful for that. And then third, but not last, I am grateful for all of you. You know, without you guys, this show goes nowhere. And you guys, I mean, most of you, everyone that I'm looking at on here has been supporting the show since day one. So thank you very much. All right, let's get the show started.

All right, guys, list. I don't know. I gotta figure out this music thing. I don't think I like doing it this way. Okay, so check this out. We have an amazing guest today. Speaking of the event I'm emceeing, she's one of the featured speakers at Lifestyle Hackers this weekend, but a lot of you may even know who she is already. Tracy Hazard is an Ink columnist.

Sorry. Tracy is an Ink columnist and a co host of three top ranked podcasts.

How?

That's freaking amazing. Feed your brand just listed as one of the CIO's top 26 entrepreneur podcasts to listen to in 2018. A newly launched members only product launch. Hazards and what I. That's not what I almost said. The actual word. Wtff.

So. So the other podcast is wtff. Wow. I gotta figure out what that stands for. The third print innovation Start point, featured as one of the exclusive live podcasts at SXSW 2018. Wow.

I gotta get some tips from her. With a constant stream of content and products from her authority platform reaching over 100,000 listeners and viewers each month, Tracy influences and cast branded content and 2 billion worth of consumer products and innovation around the world. Holy crap. I have some lessons to learn from her. Ladies and gentlemen, get your notepads out. Let's have Tracy Lee Hazard on the show.

Good morning, Tracy. How are you?

Good morning. I'm great.

Losing my voice already.

That's okay. Welcome to the show. I'm so honored to have you. Wow. What? That's impressive. Because, you know, it's hard enough having one moderately successful podcast, three successful podcasts. That's impressive.

Yeah, so it is. But you remember, I own a podcast production company, so I do have a team.

Oh, well, that helps. I gotta get a Team.

That's right. Yeah. So I have a team.

Traci, first things first. What are you grateful for this morning?

You know, I was thinking about that when I woke up this morning thinking about the name of your show.

And I like to go to bed thinking about my gratefulness. So it carries over to the morning, which I love. I am extremely grateful, just like you, for love in my life. I have been married to the love of my life and my best friend for 26 years. And so. And I get to work with him. So that I'm really grateful for. I get to work with him, and I get to work with my oldest daughter every single day. And to work with people you love, that's just. Yeah, that's just amazing. And. And so those two things are. So I'm so grateful for. And then the fact that I get to be originally me all the time, that's a gift. So I have to be grateful for that.

That's super cool. So I understand that you used to live in South Africa.

I did. I was a child. It was like the height of apartheid. So it was 1978. 79. I was 8. 9. That's. See, I'm a lot older than I look. I know. I saw your face when I said I had a daughter who works with me. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm a lot older than I look. So, Yeah, I was 8 and 9, and I experienced, you know. Right. Right when the bombings were going on in 1979 and things like that. So I saw the power of, you know, racism and apartheid and what happened there, and it was kind of like getting to be here in this country in the 60s, which my generation, you know, didn't get to experience. And so I have a very different worldview because of it. But it, you know, for all the problems that were going on in that country and a half, it wasn't quite two years. We were supposed to be there two years, but because of the violence, my parents sent us home to my grandparents for six months.

Where? And that is where?

Connecticut. Oh, I'm from Connecticut originally. Yeah.

Wow. So, and you live. Do you live in Connecticut now, or are you out in California?

No, I'm in California. I've been in California. I think I've been in here. I've been in Southern California since 2007, and I was in Northern Calories since 2004. So I've been out here for a while.

Oh, that's fun. So what made you get into podcasting? I mean, because that's. It's a commitment I mean, just from my very short experience in doing this, it is a commitment, and it's not something that's real easy to do. And you've really gone all out. I mean, you're over 550 podcast episodes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, most of those are on my show wtff. And you asked what that is, and that is not a swear. My mother thought it was.

No, it stands for what? The fused filament fabrication, which is this total geeky term for 3D printing. So if you don't want to be. If you don't want to know about 3D printing, you won't know that term and you won't show up. You just won't click it. So it works out great because it's kind of a screener to who's really interested. And we found out a lot of people were really interested in. But the story goes, it's simple. Three years ago, and almost exactly three years ago.

We were having the same problem so many coaches and consultants and small business owners have, and that's that, you know, you're just not getting out there enough. Right. You can't get. You can't stay consistent with your marketing, or you get too busy with your clients, and then you forget to market. You know, marketing roller coaster kind of thing. Yeah, everybody has that problem. And so how could I create consistent and constant content? How could I hold myself accountable? By having a schedule that was really important, and then for us, it was really important to diversify into a new area and test it and see if there was a market there. And the thing was, is we discovered there wasn't a market. So it was a good thing I didn't develop a bunch of products and services around it because there was no market for it yet. We were too soon. But there was a great market for information. And so that's actually, we grew a whole separate revenue stream from that and a whole separate following and all of this. And three years later, we're experts in 3D printing, and we do have projects and we do have clients, but it took that long and it's awesome thing, but over time, we discovered that just like you do, it's hard. And so systems, teams, process, it's kind of what we do. The how to is what we're all about. It's what we consult our clients to, to figure out how to make a product, how to launch it, how to get it going, how to make it cost effective. So we just applied those same principles to building a podcast.

So, okay, I want to. So when I first started this, I knew the, when I first started this, like this portion like doing lives every day and then it evolved into a podcast. But you know, I was somebody that did not have the budget to promote like to be do paid ads or to be able to boost any posts. I didn't have the income for it. So I went on the philosophy of I'm going to try to organically build every possible outlet. So I'm like on LinkedIn, on Tumblr, on anchor, on Spreaker, on Iheart, on iTunes, on YouTube, on link. I think I said LinkedIn already.

If you're not on TuneIn, you should be tunein.

Okay, writing that down. All right, so that's what we're doing today.

Yeah, just ping me and I'll get you on there. It's no problem. But TuneIn is up and coming. So if you want Alexa to play your podcast, then you better be on tunein. Okay, so yeah, one more for you. But no, I know what you mean. I mean I don't. We don't believe in. We didn't believe in paid ads either. We didn't have the budget for it. And so we started out with the organic model as well and we just crunched it and we did it ourselves. And that we grew that audience to a hundred thousand. We grew to 25,000 within four months of starting it.

That's freaking nuts. That's crazy.

So you can do it. It's a little harder today because there's more competition, there's more noise, there's more things going on. But it doesn't mean you can't do it. There are ways to do it and you can launch and still get going. And it is not podcasting. And the PR that goes surrounds that is a lot easier to come by than any other model or method.

I love it. I mean, I just found out that I'm going up on Spotify now and even in Google Play and it sounded crazy. Cause a lot of people just spend their time on YouTube and that's all they do or they do Facebook. And I didn't want to do that because I have a globally minded mission that is really not anything to do. Well, it is about gratitude, but it has really nothing to do with what appears in front of everyone's face every day. It's a much bigger mission. But I understand that media is such a powerful medium. So basically the reason I was even bringing that up is because if you have somebody, there's a lot of young people out there. There's a lot even older people that are going, I have something I want to say and I want to start a podcast, but they don't have a big budget. Do you recommend them focusing on one platform and building that or do you recommend these spread it all out and build it all at the same time?

Yeah, that's a tough question. Yeah. So I mean, we believe really strongly in what we call brandcasting. That's the name of our company, Brandcasters for a reason. Is that, is that what we want is we don't want a single platform to own you. We don't want Facebook to own you, YouTube to own you, even Google to own you. Although Google's a little better because it's broader. We want you to own you. Right. You want to have your own authority, you want to put it on your own platform, you want it to be your own website. So whatever happens, wherever you go and whatever you're most comfortable with, and that's what I recommend, is start where you're comfortable. If you're comfortable on Facebook, then start there. If you're comfortable on YouTube, start there. I was not comfortable being on video every day because I just wanted flexibility. So I was like, I didn't want to have my hair done, I was going to be on the mic and you know, we could be in my PJs. Like I could record at 10 o' clock at night when my girls go to bed. Like whatever it was, I wanted flexibility so I didn't want the video. But now we do lots of video. Like it's mixed in. So you can expand into those things. But whatever you do, bring it all back to your website. So blog posts, do full blog posts where you don't get enough power. Put images, put videos, put them on YouTube, take them off Facebook, put them on YouTube and put them in them. Don't recreate content all over those places. Just insert it there, share it there, move it there, put a link from it there. And that's really kind of the brand casting model is to kind of create that cross linking power and creating Google search for you. Because at the end of the day, Google has 13% conversion rates on search and Facebook only has 1.3%.

Wow.

So yeah, you know, and I know there's a 1.4 billion websites on Google, but in your particular topic, you might have a lot better shot at getting noticed.

That's amazing. And look, and that's something too that I try to tell people and I'll see if you agree on this.

If you Think that you have nothing to say or like what you say is not important. Actually, isn't that the best thing ever? Just if you just say what's on your heart and like, your passion, your purpose, your niche, your niche in this space will kind of expose itself just by you sharing what's on your heart. And that's kind of how you create your. Your message and what the topic of your show is going to be, right?

Well, absolutely. I mean, we start when we started the 3D print podcast. You know, I'm not the. I don't do the CAD models in our group. I start, I plan, and I partner with my husband and we figure out what to make and we design it together and we do drawings together and I do market research and we we these things. But I don't do the physical drawings and run the machine. And I thought, oh, I'm not technical enough to be a part of this. And so, like, who's gonna want to listen to what I have to say? Because I'm not techie about it? But at the end of the day, what we discovered was that there were so many people who wanted someone to sit there and go, I don't understand the thing you just said there. Can you talk in like, real terms to real people and force him to explain it? And that worked out really well. And I do. And I asked those questions of our guests, people like that. And so it worked out really well. And now three years later, I think I'm pretty expert in it. And I actually, while I still don't do drawings, I feel like, really competent. I know all the parts of the machine. I, you know, I know all of these things. So you gain competence in those things as well. But not putting yourself out there, I mean, if I held myself to that, that would have been a disservice to the community.

Absolutely. Yes. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So you are getting ready to. You're part of a group of experts that are going to be at the Lifestyle Hackers event this weekend in la.

I'm so excited.

I am too, because, I mean.

It hasn't dawned on me that I'm emceeing the event because I'm looking at all the speakers going, freaking Lauren Harris, Dan and Abby, for first. Let me start. Dan and Abby are just amazing humans and they're so great at what they do. Lauren Harris is a master. And I mean, and then, and then you have you, and then you have Libby and then you have Dan the Darren, like, just Adam Imod Flores, like, truly the best of the best in their field. And. And yet. And as opposed to all the different, you know, events that we go to that are just people speaking, this is actually getting to sit down and work with Tracy Hazard to learn your ways. Like, you're going to be there, hands on, teaching people how to. How to do all of this, right?

Absolutely. It's like, I booked in 90. I have 90 minutes, which so excites me because no one ever gives you 90 minutes. Right. And so I'm going to get to do something super fun, which is bring somebody up on stage and show them how to strategize. You're like, me, me, me. Yeah. So bring it. You know, bring someone up on stage and talk about how to think about forming your brand podcast. Because you've got to. It's a brand at the end of the day, so you got to be thinking about that. And so we're going to work through it. And by seeing it being done, it's really going to, like, you know, you have to do it sometimes. And then there are. I mean, Dan and Abby put together worksheets and workbooks. That's killer. I mean, who does that? And so they were like, are you sure you can get through all this content? Because I've got like 90 slides. I go, have you heard me talk? I'm really fast, but everything's really visual, too. So I like that reinforcement of I talk. There's visuals. We're going to do live action. It's fantastic. But the thing that I think is the most unusual about this event that I'm so excited about is the fact that they've structured it in a way to grow you to the day, to being ready for me. So I so often get somewhere and they go, oh, you're going to be first. I'd be like, are people really ready to hear how to. When they don't know why yet? And so by structuring the order of their speakers and putting them in a flow is amazing.

They've really. I'm impressed. And I gotta tell you, I'm not saying this because they're my friends at all, but I. I be having access to the behind the scenes of how things are playing out here. The work and dedication that they've put to be able to bring value to everyone in attendance, to me is inspiring because not everyone takes that much detail. Lauren Harris is planning an event that's coming up. His attention to detail is just perfect. Like, so I love that when I see people that are running these events take it Seriously, they take. They strategically pick the people they want to be on stage because it's not just, oh, they've got a big name and following. We're going to put them on the stage and then we're going to pay them a bunch of money to be there. It's not that the people that are going to this event are the best of the best at what they do, and they genuinely care about what they do, and they've been strategically placed there to improve everyone that it's in the audience, like, to improve their business, to improve their brand. It's, it's, it's. It's really inspiring to me. And so I'm just. I'm excited about being a part of it.

Yeah. You know, when you said a strategic, the other word that goes to my mind is that they've really done it. I'm going to say energetically. Right. We all are like this passionate. I mean, I see it in you as well. Right. We all have this passion for. Just, like, we want to help you, you know, we want to make you better. We know we can fix this for you, whatever you're struggling with. Like, we all have that energy and when we pull that together, that's going to be awesome.

Yeah, it really is. And I'm excited because I actually did. I saw you speak at Cervix. It dawned on me right when we started the interview that I've actually seen you on stage and I'm. Yeah, it's really impressive. Like, you do an amazing job. So, like. And I. And I'm so happy that we're getting to talk a little bit, because it's going to make it a lot more fun for me to introduce you and, you know, when you come on stage. So that's gonna be great. Let me. So what would you. What, really? So I know that you love to do the podcasting. Obviously, you're doing three. You've done over 550 episodes. I'm trying to catch up to you, by the way. I started this. I started this four months ago and I'm up to 98.

So you do one every morning?

I do. Sometimes I do some. Like, I don't do them on the weekends, but I sometimes will do a couple in a day. And, like, I'm doing three today. So, you know, I'm being interviewed tonight, but then I have another one at 1:00 clock today that I'm excited about. But I love doing it. Like, it's. It's something that I'm genuinely passionate about because I Love sharing, you know, talking about like, or interviewing people like yourself that talks about their passion and purpose and gratitude. And it's just. And it's entertaining because you offer so much. I do want to ask you, though, like, what is the vision? Like, where do you go from here? Because you can, obviously you can grow a bigger audience with podcasts. You can get it bigger, you can get to millions and millions of people. But really, like, what. Where do you foresee transitioning? What's the level up for you? Like, what's the goal that you want to achieve?

So this is where, you know, we get into, like, hard business. So I am definitely the front girl. And, you know, I'm all about the, like, let me talk about it. Let me get excited about doing a podcast and let me, let me give you the how to. To make it happen. But the reality is that there's a huge amount of business structure going on underneath us, and that's planned, that's orchestrated, that's out to the exact nth degree plan for the next three years. And what we've done is we've built this entire team. I have 26 employees worldwide right now, and we produce, gosh, I think we're producing like 70 or 80. We're on something like that podcast right now. Hundreds of episodes every week, a couple hundred every week. And what we do with it, though, is really giving these people who wouldn't have the kind of power that they have, they don't have this kind of team, we just do it really easily and all under the radar for them. So that's really powerful. And I love that that's the service part of the business. But the reality is that doesn't make a valuable business in today's world. Right. You also have to have something that provides what we call residuals, right? Things that monthly subscriptions, things like that. So we have hosting as well. So where you host your podcast somewhere, sometimes people do Podbean and Libsyn and all those things. We have our own host called Potatoise. And on Potatoise, we one upped it. And that's really where our growth is. And that's where we expect to get to a $20 million valuation in about another 18 months to two years. I think that's our goal. Yeah, how do I get on there?

What the heck?

We just transition. We transition existing podcasts. We, it all. It's super easy. We don't make it difficult. But the power of Potatoes is that you can advertise for your favorite charity, you can advertise for your book launch, you can advertise that you're going to be at Lifestyle Hackers. So you can advertise for them. And then when the event happens, you can take it out just like that. And so you put your ads in and you take them out so you can actually sell ads. But. And we are going to be bringing on a whole ad network that will sell ads for many podcasts that achieve a certain level. But you can do it yourself because I hated the idea this is how it came about. I hated the idea that someone was going to listen to a holiday episode that has nothing to do with the holidays, but it happened to be in December and it has some random ad about Christmas 2016 in it. Because for me, and for most of us, our podcasts are timeless. Right. They don't are anchored in a news date and a specific time. So when people find my podcast and I have 550 of them, they go back to the beginning and listen to the early ones because their explorations, they're interesting to them because it's a learning process. Right. A lot of times it's edutainment or they go and they find like on yours, I want to know about this guest and this guest and this guest. And. And so they go back and they pick and they choose. And what a shame not to capitalize on that and get them something current, current information about you or your advertisers or whatever it is that you're working on, your nonprofits. Right. You should be able to do that. And the idea that I would have to re edit my files was dumb. I was not going to do that.

Yeah, I have some.

We intended it.

I have some of my original stuff that was downloaded. I uploaded to, created the MP4, but I didn't have a microphone, so the quality doesn't sound as good. So now I'm like, now I'm paranoid about my old stuff being on there.

You shouldn't be. Because remember, most people are listening to them on their phone, they're in traffic, they're at the soccer game. It's probably not as bad as you think it is. And the reality is you can get if at minimum, what you should do is turn them into blog posts so that you at least have the written word giving your site power, even if you're not happy with the sound of the quality of the content.

I need a dictation person. Is there a computer that does it automatically?

Yeah, it's terrible.

Yeah, you have to edit it. That's why I have a gigantic Team, because that's what they do.

Okay. So I need to figure audio conversion to.

Yeah. So, I mean, our team does everything from audio all the way through getting it on your website and even putting graphics in it. Like, we don't want you to do anything but do what we do here. Right. Shouldn't we just live in this world in which we're our brilliant self?

Heck, yeah. So which website is that has design? Is that the one that you do that?

No, it's called brandcastingyou. Y O u dot com.

Okay. Gonna put that on the screen because this is good stuff.

And then if you just want to host, which it's just as cheap as any other host, you want to go to potatize. Potatize. Like monetize, but potatize.

Okay. So P O D E T I.

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And here's my real secret gift to everyone. Exactly what we do to launch a podcast. The exact thing I do for my clients, done for you.

The step by step is there free for anyone who hosts with us.

Are you freaking serious?

Yep.

I'm going to your website today because.

I want people to be successful. The launching process shouldn't be this mystery. That you pay $400 for a course so that they can charge you $4,000 for a mastermind so that they can, you know, I just find that ridiculous. And I want it to be so easy for you to get started because once you get started, if you really get going, you're going to need more of my services and that. So that's great. But, you know, so that's built in there. But if you get going and you're on the platform, then there's more powerful authority, authenticity out there, and that's what drives me.

Yeah, I love it. Really quick, want to give a shout out to Lauren, Stella, all the way from the uk. Karen, good to see you. Lisa from the uk. Brandy, what's up? Good to see you. Good morning, everyone watching and listening. Bethany, Bonnie, John, great to see you guys. We are with the amazing Tracy Hazard, who's giving away more free tidbits than she should, but God bless her, this is awesome.

That's how I do it.

So listen, I'm so grateful that you came on the show and spent some time with me today and with the audience and just the value that typically, you know, we go other directions on the show. But, like, I really am fascinated by what you do, your passion for what you do. I love that. And frankly, you helped a lot of people tonight. Today, tonight. For some people today for the others.

Depending on what time zone you're in.

You've helped a lot of people, and I'm so grateful for you, and I'm really looking forward to being able to meet you in person this weekend. It's going to be a lot of fun. Very excited. But listen, for being on the show today, I'm going to give you a giraffe.

Ooh. My daughters love giraffe.

Yeah. So you cannot give it away and you cannot sell it. What are you going to do with it?

I am going to put it right behind me there.

I want it looking over my shoulder.

Is your ceiling tall enough?

No, probably not. But, you know, hey, we can always have him go right out the window, put his head in, right? You want him looking at you. I've seen giraffes in person. They are the most gentle, loving things.

They are amazing.

You want them looking over you and checking on you, giving you a little leave now and again. Right? You totally ought to do it, right? Giving you love and food. Who doesn't want that?

I love it. I love it. Tracy, thank you so much for being on the show.

Thank you. I appreciate it. And I can't wait to see you.

Yes. It's going to be so much fun. I'm going to be like a hummingbird flying all over the place. Anyway, have a good time today. Be safe. You live there. Never mind. But, yeah, be safe getting there. And I'll see you tomorrow.

Sounds good.

All right, bye. How cool, man. Like, I'm going to poditize.com I'm going to check out tunein. I'm gonna check out our other websites, too. Hasdesign.com braincastingyou man. And she writes for Inc. What an accomplished human. I'm gonna do that. I need to start. You know what? I've actually made the decision that I'm gonna start writing again. Like, I really want to write, but I don't want to write my old podcast because, golly, I. I sometimes I don't form complete sentences when I talk. And.

It may sound a little goofy or read a little goofy, you know, because, yeah, whatever. It'll be. It'll be fine. I'm really excited about that. And also, I never do this kind of stuff, but will you guys go, like, subscribe to itunes? Like, I want to, like, yeah, would you subscribe? And you can, like, hear my voice all day long on my podcast. There's like, 90 episodes of Morning Gratitude. You'll even hear the Morning Gratitude with the mayor stuff. And by the way, I haven't given up on the whole mayor thing. I'm not. Like, it's actually gonna be. I'm gonna be known as the. The world's mayor. That's what's going to happen. But, you know, that's gonna be. When I go to the un, they're gonna give me a trophy that kind of looks like my microphone, and it's gonna say the world's mayor on it. That's gonna be. That's gonna happen. So another thing. Have you ever written out your vision for your life?

I'm curious, like, Stella, Lisa, Lauren, Karen, have you ever written the vision for your life before? Like, I'd love to know, because I'm doing that. Yeah. Tracy, you're amazing. Seriously, you're. You're fantastic.

But have you ever written the vision for your life, like, in real detail? Like, I'm doing this exercise right now, and I'm breaking it out in, like, my personal life, like, my vision for the show, the vision for the TV show, the vision for, you know, how I want to give back where I want to be. It's really profound, and it's humbling. And to be honest with you, when you write it out, it kind of makes it feel like it's. It's coming. It makes it feel like it's coming true. But. But.

It'S also daunting.

It's daunting. And it's amazing how my brain starts talking to me like, you're crazy. You can't do that. Or, you know, what if you fail? Like, my. My brain talks to me about that, and, you know, it's one of those things, like, I just. But at the same time, I'm obsessed with achieving this vision. Like, it matters to me so much. Like, that's what I go to bed thinking about. It's what I wake up thinking about. It's what I think about throughout the day. Because everything in my world, like this. This show here, the. What's going to be a TV show.

Emceeing an event, writing the way I live my life, it all really does tie back together as part of my vision. Like, that's where my energy goes.

But it can be daunting. I was just curious, like, if anyone's ever written it out. Who said no? Stella says no. But I feel it's in the making. Fair enough. You should write it out sometime. It's pretty powerful. All right, so you guys are amazing. I'm extremely grateful for all of you. If you enjoyed this and you thought somebody really. If you thought Somebody would benefit from what Tracy taught us. I wasn't expecting her to give so much information today. Wow. If you, if you thought this was valuable, please share or tag somebody because I know it'll help a lot of people. Lisa, Stella, Tracy, Brandy, Lauren, Aaron, Brandy, you guys, thank you so much for watching and interacting and commenting. If you're wondering who the heck we're talking to people on the radio, you can check us out on Facebook at Joshua T. Bergland's Morning Gratitude.

Yeah, you guys have a blessed day. So at 1 o' clock today, 1 o' clock Pacific, we're doing another interview that's going to be a ton of fun and it's going to be really good. I you guys should check this out. I'm actually having, there's a fundraiser going on for an event, but it's for sheriff. So we're going to start, we're going to start interviewing people in the political world now and non profits and things like that. So if you know anybody that runs a non profit and you would like to see them. Hi, Donna and Bonnie, good to see you. If you know somebody that has a non profit that you would like to have to see on the show, they're welcome to like please tag them and, and let them know because I'd love to interview them. I love sharing people's messages and helping spread the word about people that are trying to change the world. So anyway, God bless you guys. I'm out of here. I'm gonna do some work and like do what I really do for a living.

And then I'll be back here at one o'. Clock. I love you guys. Thank you so much for your support.

Well, you know, technically we can do this all over again.

All right, Donna, Stella, Tracy, Lauren, good to see you guys. Thank you so much for.

I'll take care of.