In this conversational excerpt, Matan Hazanov and Speaker B discuss the perceived failures of government policy regarding public safety in the Greater Toronto Area. They argue that recent bail reform legislation (C‑75 and C‑5) has weakened conditions for release, leading to repeat violent offenses and shootings in communities such as Vaughan. The speakers criticize the government's reluctance to enforce stricter policing, point to police unions and mayoral inaction as obstacles, and denounce liberal proposals that target law‑abiding gun owners rather than removing firearms from the streets. Overall, the dialogue frames the issue as a mismatch between governmental responsibilities and private sector roles, emphasizing the need for tighter enforcement and policy reversal to curb recurring crime.
I mean, the government shouldn't be involved in those things that private industry shouldn't be involved in.
And then in those cases, they're not even doing a good job. I mean, the crime rate here in the GTA and the place in which we are sitting, the place where I represent, is we're telling stories that I never thought was possible. It's here. So the core competencies of government and what they're even supposed to do right, they're not doing. Well, you ask yourself, what happened? What happened? Exactly. So here's the very obvious of what happened. You can say that it's policing and prisons and all of that, but we have very distinct changes to laws in this country. C-75 is one of them. It was their bail reform law. So they weakened the conditions around bail. They made it less onerous and they're letting people out at the earliest and least onerous conditions. That means violent offenders are repeating crimes. They got caught in the morning and they're doing it in the afternoon.
Wait a second. Are you telling me that if you don't punish criminals, they're going to commit more crimes?
It's wild, eh? It's wild. So things on deterrence, which are like if I told you that violent criminals, people who use guns in crimes or knives in crimes or did sexual assault, they can have house arrest rather than the needed penalties to deter crime. It's not that complicated. It's not us saying it either. It's mayors.
It's cops.
It's police unions. It's everybody that's like sort of walking around in their community like, like, WTF, like, what happened? The good news is, is we don't have a lot of criminals in this country. The bad news for us is that it's the same criminals committing crime over and over again. So look, it's issues like that. It's tightening up. It's enforcement more than it is the code. But certainly C-75 and C-5 would be first and foremost things that we would change. The government has said that they're going to do something, but like It's kind of like tomorrow never comes. They sort of talked about this for 10 years, and now when it's sort of slapping them in the face and there's shooting after shooting in communities like Vaughan, where innocent people who are bystanders to all of this are getting killed by people who are out on bail. And then of course we have the ridiculous solutions that liberals have to go after law-abiding gun owners rather than getting guns off of our streets by, you know, They say like, "We're gonna get these guns off the streets," while they're asking you to take your gun out of your safe.
[Speaker] It happens to be criminals are not gonna listen to the government.
[Speaker] No, then they were gonna spend $750 million even though they know this plan won't work. The minister admitted this much, and that takes cops off the streets, that takes scanners out of the port, that takes money out of the leaky border where the guns are actually coming through. Like, it isn't that complicated. And to, you know, to get a pointy-headed professor in front of a bookshelf telling you that there's like all kinds of complications with this, like, it's not that complicated. Put criminals in jail.
