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In this interview segment, Virginie Glaenzer asks Martina Olbertova about the ethical implications of marketers and brands creating rituals to influence human behavior. Martina reflects on the dual nature of such practices, noting that influencing behavior can be a natural, even evolutionary, form of persuasion, but it can also be manipulative. She distinguishes between conscious rituals—custom behaviors with symbolic value that individuals actively choose because they provide personal meaning, identity, or a sense of belonging—and unconscious, mindless rituals that operate on autopilot without clear benefit. Martina argues that when rituals are entered into consciously and enhance well‑being or group identity, they are positive; when they are performed unconsciously without clear benefit, they can be detrimental. The conversation frames the ethical question around the level of awareness and intentionality behind ritual creation and participation.

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