Some gems were dropped in this episode 🔥

and they're willing to look at their comp— their peers, and I'll call them competitors because this is a competitive thing, and are willing to do what their peers and competitors to the left and right are doing. And by willing to do, I don't mean do something out of like, yo, just because this person is doing that. You got to do that. But understanding, well, if this person is doing it, and they don't have to because they're so massive already, and you're not there, then there's no reason why you shouldn't be doing it. And by doing it, that doesn't mean doing it the exact same way. That means doing it in a way that's true to you, but still fucking doing it.

Right. You know? Yeah, I took that to mean an artist who's willing to outwork everybody.

Outwork everybody or outwork themselves.