When Should Your Child Start Speech Therapy? | www.agentsofspeech.com/micro

Ming from Agents of Speech explains when to start speech therapy. Kids under 2 have attention spans of only 4-6 minutes, so formal drilling doesn't work. The best window opens around 2-2.5 years, when children should use single words and start two-word phrases. By 3, they should understand simple questions and be mostly intelligible.
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About 4–6 minutes (quoted as a practical heuristic).
Around 2 to 2.5 years old for assessment and starting language-focused therapy.
Using single words to refer to specific objects and beginning to combine words into two-word phrases.
Producing two- to three-word phrases, answering simple who/where questions, and speech being about 70% intelligible.
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Foreign. Okay. Hey guys, this is Ming here from agents of speech.com. today we're gonna talk about whether your child, like, does he need speech therapy? Or if yes, then when your child should go to speech therapy. Okay? We go live every Monday night. If you're in Asia or if you're in the usa, then that would be Monday morning. Okay. I, I'm not sure what time it is in the, in Europe. It is right now. Let me just check real quick. Okay, so it's a, it's afternoon in the, in Europe. Okay, so thanks everyone for joining. If you're watching this on the recording, just say hi inside the comments and tell me you know, where you're from. And everyone who's watching right now, just let me know where you're from, watching from where you know. We've got a lot more people joining us over these lives and I'm very happy about it. Okay, so let's get straight into the topic today. We're going to talk about when your child should go to. When they, they should go to, they should go to speech therapy or do they really need it, Right? So the thing about speech therapy is this, okay? A child who is below 2 years old has actually an attention span of a very short period of time. So we have a lot of studies on attention span and so on, right? So if you go, just go onto Google, two years old attention span, I'm typing as I'm talking and I'm actually like reading it out, right? So it's actually like a two year old has max for four to six minutes of real attention. Okay? So think about that. If a two year old has attention span of like, I don't know, four to six minutes. And I read a study, you know adults, we have attention span around 30 minutes max. Other than that, we gotta, we gotta take a break. So guys, you, you gotta, you gotta understand that a lot of times we expect a lot from children, okay? But the thing is if you bring them to therapy before two, that's going to be less than that time. You know, if your child is around like one year, a year and a half or whatever, then you think about that. Their attention span wouldn't be even four minutes. So you need to keep that in mind. All right? And most of the time if you're going for an assessment for speech therapy, occupational, whatever, therapy, okay, you need to understand that their attention span is awfully low. Okay? So go say hi to everyone just in case. Hey Eileen, how are you? Nine. Oh, that's so early. So Lilia Ly. Lylee. Sorry, Lylee. From Indonesia. Victoria. Cool. Germany. Hey, Julie. Nice. And Carlton, who's in Maryland. Very nice. Welcome, everyone. Anyways, so one and a half years old, I would say it's a no go to try and do any therapy. Okay. You can have a professional to observe your child before two, but I think really anything below two is quite difficult to do meaningful therapy. Okay. And I will talk more about why this is a problem today. Okay. The thing about speech therapy or speech assessment, right? There's a lot of. So we do like a few things. We do a few things. So don't mind me as I take my, like my drawing board out. I'm just going to keep talking once I do that. Very high tech. We assess a few things. There's speech and language, right? And most of you watching would think, oh, we call it speech delay. But it's actually not really just speech delay, right? It's actually a speech and language delay. So if, you know, sorry, we cut up the assessment into two parts, speech and language, okay. And most of the time we just call it speech delay, which is kind of untrue, which is, you know, it's actually speech and language. So whoever you guys who have gone through a bunch of. If you've gone through the. The course that we have, right, Then you will know the difference between those two. Okay. And I'm just gonna set up. Let me share my screen real quick. I'll take out my whiteboard. If you guys can see it, that's cool. All right, you guys can see it. So there's their speech and language, right? So as we do an assessment, we're doing either or both together. So most of the time when a child doesn't talk like, you know, hand pull, they pull your hand or hand guide, whatever everyone is calling it, if they cannot make eye contact or they can call you, they don't care. If they don't know how to answer questions, those are a language problem, okay? It's a language problem. All right? So most of the time it's a language problem. What is a speech problem? Okay, Speech problem is articulation. All right, how it's pronounced, all right? Sorry if I'm making spelling mistakes and my handwriting is awful or whatever, okay? So within language, there's expressive and receptive. Okay? And why I'm talking about these things, right? Why am I talking Articulation, expressive, receptive, whatever is that. You need to make a distinction between these two. Okay? All right, so I'm gonna have to make this oopsies, what am I doing? All right, I need to delete all of this. Let me see how to delete all this. Never mind. I need to go back. Cool. So I need to make a new one. Yeah. So for children who are below 2 years old, you don't really need to do a lot of speech sounds. You don't need to do a lot of speech because they're still developing, right? They're still learning how to talk. So a lot of times you hear a lot of baby talk. Oops, what did I do this time? Baby talk. You hear a lot of baby talk. And maybe like 50% of it you can't understand. You cannot understand. I'll draw a year here. And you can't understand that. So usually before 2 years old, we cannot do a lot of speech. Doing articulation, right? Fixing the pronunciation. Why? Because their attention span is like four minutes. So how are we gonna sit them down? Make them sit down and drill. Like, a lot of times when we do articulation is drilling. So if you're learning. If you're learning how to like. I don't make it smaller, man. Let's go. Oh, I can do that. If we're. If we're teaching someone to. For instance, a lot of like some children are like two, they cannot do the F sound, right? It becomes what we call a P. Sorry, with the silly symbols. Occupational. What do you call that? It's just my occupational stuff. I use it by accident. It's just by second nature anyways. So some people will say this, right? Which is like, for instance, if they say four, it will become like paul, right? Or B. Doesn't matter what it is. So this thing, we call it stopping, right? Plus fronting, I guess. No, not really. Just stopping. So given this, we cannot make them. We cannot make a two year old sit down with us and learn the F sound. It's impossible. It's impossible. So that's why when we're doing. When we're doing speech therapy, it's actually called. What we really should call is, should be language therapy. So we're doing this, all right? And this is what we're focusing on, on children who are coming our way are like 2 to 3 years old, all right? We hardly do any speech, like articulation stuff. The reason is because you need to sit them down and, you know, and. And really go through the sounds like which they have or which they have not, right? Which is very difficult. I mean, you got. You gotta make them want to stay with you. Like make them feel like they're wanted, you know, make them feel like they're rewarded and so on. It's very hard. It's very hard. Whereas language is totally different. So language, we're working on like commands, you know, doing gestures, playing. Right? We're doing these for language. Okay. So I'm going to stop sharing right now. I'm going to keep talking. Cool. So cool. A lot more people here. Great. Cassie from Malaysia. Hello. Rhodes from Rods, is it? From Philippines. And then Lord from Philippines as well. Great. So someone asked, is it okay to take speech therapy and behavioral therapy at the same time? So just let me finish about like what I'm about to say about speech therapy and then I'll talk about aba. Okay, so the thing about like now that, you know, like most of the time when a child goes there, let's say that they're around two and then you see like that they're not speaking with like two word sentences. That's like a telltale sign that they might be a little late at 2. So I know that if you search online on milestones of speech or language, right, you get like this whole chart that you can just do in Google. But the, the thing is, when someone comes to me, right, they say, oh, my kid at 2, do they need an assessment? And I ask, can they talk? Can they speak in one word at a time? Can they speak in, can they add like two words and make a phrase or a sentence or whatever? Then that's something. You have to be careful because at 2, your child should be starting to like, obviously they need to use words, right? They need to use specific words for specific things, okay? And then at the same time they need to be able to, they need to be able to use some two word phrases like mommy, eat, you know, eat strawberry strawberries too hard, maybe eat apple, something like that. So at 2, you know, sometimes the bar is set quite high. Okay. But actually if you interact with like typically developing children at 2, they're speaking very well, you know, Especially now because we have so much video, so much language input, so much just higher expectations, you know. Like nowadays if you want to get into the kindergarten. I asked the kindergarten teacher, a friend of mine, and then she said, you know, oh, what should you prepare for a kindergarten interview? Who's your favorite author? Like what, what's your favorite book? Come on. They're like just barely three, right? It's nearly impossible for children to get into kindergarten if they are language delayed, you know, So I really don't like that. Anyways, so by the time they are two, they're supposed to do this, right? So if by two they cannot speak in like a word, one at a time, that, you know, they can reference different things with different words. Okay. They don't call like mama for everything. They call it like, oh, that's a cup. That's a, that's a, that's a tv. That's a shoe. Then great. Okay. And you know, if they cannot use like two word phrases, then yes, go get a, go get a speech and language assessment from a speech therapist, right? Go try it out. Go see what they say. Go, you know, go listen to the assessment results and then come back. Right? So at 2, I think that's the good time to actually do some assessments. And before that, don't do it because, you know, it's hard and it feels like you're not getting your money's worth because the kids like just rolling around. They can't even sit for a long time because children, you know, they really start to enjoy sitting at three because their muscles are starting to like starting to build up. You know, it might sound crazy, but actually sitting down takes muscles, you know, so I'm sure you know, because you're a mother, right, Or a father who has a kid who's watching this. If you're not, then you're probably a therapist who knows the developmental milestones, you know, like rolling over, being able to sit up straight and then being able to sit on a chair for extended period of time. That takes a lot of muscles, you know. So by the time, if that's the case at two, then yeah, go get a speech therapist and take a look. Right? And another sign is like, you know, they're hand guiding or you know, pulling your hand towards stuff too. I think that's already not very acceptable. Especially if they don't like talk. They don't talk and they just pull you silently or they make noise like ah, like that, that's not cool as well. Okay. So you should see a speech therapist at around 2. Okay. As you, as your child grows up at 3, what's the like, like the risk factors I look at, it's very, very simple. A three year old should be able to do like two to three word phrases. Being able to answer who questions where questions and at the same time they, they start like when they talk, their, their speech is around 70% accurate. You know, you can pick up some errors but you understand what they're saying. Then it's cool. By three, okay. Our bar isn't set that high. If your child at 3 doesn't do these things. Then yeah, go get a speech therapist to do a language assessment. Right. And what if you don't have these resources? You would ask me? Well, there's a lot of resources online. You're watching one of them like me, right? You don't need to listen to me only, you know, you can go online and check it out. I know it's very, it's very confusing. Like some people say this, some people say that. And I'm leaning into, towards the behavioral therapy thing. Okay. Don't worry. So, you know, I would very encourage everyone to start speech therapy at like around two to two and a half. And then after that, after that, you know, obviously. Yes, please go get, get it checked up if you can. All right, so where was I again? Yeah. So going online looking for information is a good idea. Joining a group like you guys are inside of our group. That's great. And also checking out our micro course, doing some selfless promotion here. But it's cool. We've got like a thousand plus parents inside who have learned a lot. You can read the stories about how they learn about removing or reducing hand pulling and so on and learning to actually initiate communication. All right, so the thing about speech therapy is not to teach the actual words. Of course we have. Of course we are. But we're teaching what we call a language use, right? We're teaching them to learn about like play. Okay. So as you can see in speech therapy, we do a lot of play. Okay. We use play as a tool, as a context for, you know, children to learn about the world. And therefore we can add language to it. The thing about what a lot of parents are doing is that you guys or you, I don't know, maybe you're not. Maybe you've gone through the micro course already. So, you know, is that you will teach the word instead of teaching the context. Okay. That's why the hand pulling still occurs because they don't know when to use the word. They don't know why they have to use the word. They don't understand that, you know, talking is easier than screaming and pulling you. Right. So speech therapy does that a lot more. Okay. And whereas behavioral therapy, I'm going to talk about it here. Okay. Should you go to behavioral therapy? I would say don't go to behavioral therapy or what we call ABA if your child isn't on the spectrum. Okay. The reason why I say that is because ABA is designed suited for children on the spectrum. And a lot of people will say, hey, ABA causes Trauma ABA causes PTSD in children, and it's really bad for the child's psychology, whatnot. I have never seen a child who have gone through ABA and have become traumatized. Okay? I know in the world, you know, as I was talking in another live video, or even just in speech therapy, right? Or what I'm trying to say is that, you know, in the job, in the world, there are plumbers who are great plumbers who are not that great plumbers who just downright are. Don't do the job at all, right? That's the same for any industry. So you can see that in speech therapy. You can see that in aba. You can see that in a lot other things. So you just have to be on the lookout and try to find, like, testimonials, like, listen to other mothers, fathers, you know, and then if they. If they can convince you. Right. Then, you know, by all means, try it. If it's totally just a bad and you see no results, then stop, obviously. Right? So that's the thing, like, about behavioral therapy and speech therapy. The biggest. The biggest, I think now. Okay. Because I've done both. All right. The biggest discrepancy or, like, the biggest difference is that one focus on the Watts, right? That's aba. That's behavioral therapy. What do you know? Like, what are your behaviors? Like, everything is observed, right? What? What? What? What? What, What? Okay. Speech therapy is more about how. Okay, because we don't see kids every. Like, every day. We see them once a week. And we have to teach the parents about why and how we need to do this like that. But ABA is more like a matter of fact, get it done like a what right. Keep on teaching new content. Right? Make them understand, like, what behavior is about. What behavior is, like, wanted in an environment rather than teaching them why it's not to be accepted, you know? So therefore, it's very different in a way. So do I recommend it? I don't know. It depends on the child. Can you do it together? Yes. And you should find a place where they understand each other. Because, you know, when I was a behavioral therapist, my colleagues would take a speech therapist assessment report and then just basically poop on it, you know? Like, I don't find. I can't find a better word for. They basically just said, hey, that's not a good assessment about a child. They don't know anything about the kid, you know? And then fast forward to when I got my master's and I became a speech therapist. My boss would look at the ABA stuff and Then just poop on it too. And to be frank, I've seen very, very like a lack of. I, I have a lack of vocabulary to how bad some of the ABA people like create a syllabus. I don't think that is the best case, is the best thing to do for children. And I'm not going to disclose what name because obviously there are great centers. You know, there are great therapists who do know a great job. I'm just saying that in particular for that particular client, it wasn't very good. Okay, so there you have it. Okay, so today's, today's great subject is when should you go for speech therapy? I mean not for you, but for your child. The answer is at least two because they're attention span cannot persist. Okay. And most of all, it's quite difficult to get a child to do your bidding, do our bidding if they don't like, if they cannot even sit upright for a very long time or there, you know, or they get disinterested and tired very quickly. Okay? So. Hi guys. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi Madeleine. Oh, hi. How are you? So Jasmine, hello. She says question word. Yaya word is the starting, starting a child talking. He is a boy. I have no idea what that means. Question like yaya is a. You mean yaya is a word? I don't understand what you mean here. Sorry man. Could you please elaborate a little bit? Sorry. Okay, cool. So Israt. Sorry if I'm getting your name totally wrong. My son is 25 months old and totally non verbal. Can't even say a word. Yeah, please see a speech therapist for that. That would be the best idea because you know, you can ask me a lot of things but without me seeing the kid straight on physically I cannot really grasp what's going on with the kid. Okay. Obviously I'm here to give like fast advice and you know, if you need to, if you want to and you, if you can, that is you can join our micro course. Okay. The link is in the description or in the title. You can go there and check it out. All right. So not even mama papa. I don't know. I don't know why. Okay. And if your child is pulling your hand, then start teaching them gestures instead of teaching them to talk. Okay. Was what? What does that mean? He only makes some repetitive words. What does that mean? Okay, cool. So Jasmine said he is talking Yaya mamati only. I hope he can talk soon. I always teaching him. Okay, so I don't know if these are words or not, man. I mean, sometimes, like, if yaya is very. Yaya is talking about, like, your phone all the time, it's always referring to that, then it's a word, right? And if, like, mama is about you and only about you, then it's a word. But if they use it for everything, if you're a child, right? He uses mama for everything. That is not a word. Okay? So, yeah, you can teach him how to talk. But for, you know, for you, Jasmine and Israt, I really think that you guys should teach the gestures instead. And this is something that is universal across all speech therapy that we all believe. We all believe in something, what we call pre linguistic skills. Okay, so how do you spell that? So pre, like P, R, E. Linguistic. Linguistic as in language. Okay, so pre linguistic skills, okay. Skills that they need and learn before language develops, basically. Cool. So, yeah, one of them, which is a huge part of it, is gestures. So Israel says he made some repetitive sounds, only. Cool. So if that's the case, then, you know, maybe that's just babbling. Most probably I might be wrong. I don't know. Haven't seen your child. But teach gestures. Do not skimp. Do not skip gestures. In fact, it's very important, super important. No matter if just now I was talking about speech or language case. Gestures help. Gestures help a lot. And the reason why is because, you know, if they have a way of speaking, like not speaking but telling you what they want, right. With their gestures, then they don't need. They won't have a lot of the frustrations, all of the, you know, the very. The frustrations of not getting their message across. Right. Cool stuff. So Joyce says my daughter can only speak. Depends on their mood. How can I teach her to communicate with me? So, yeah, if your child speaks with you, depending on the mood, then they can speak that they don't know how to use it correct correctly. Right. So you need to have a reason for them to talk to you, obviously. And the fastest way. The fastest way. The fastest way is with rewards, something that they really want. And they come to you and they talk to you. Right. So I hear this a lot, Joyce. I hear a lot of parents will say, oh, it's up to their mood. Right? But, you know, it's not about that. It's about what you have for them. And some of the times it's because parents like yourself, maybe I might be wrong. Okay? But I've seen enough to know that, you know, sometimes the children don't want to talk. And you keep on saying, like, what do you Want say whatever and whatever. And it's difficult. It's difficult for the child because it's stressful. Okay. So the mood thing, you can solve it by using rewards first, and then slowly you can teach them play and whatever, and then they will talk to you in a conversational manner. Okay? So Jasmine says, oh, thank you. Yeah, no problem, no problem. So let me know if I can help you more, Jasmine. Like, I don't. Like I understand what's going on. It's right. Some gestures, he gets hurt and say very loudly. He can do anything. I say, yay. Good job. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Yeah. What I mean is the gestures, he has to do it not only you, okay? Like, he has to do it. Like, for instance, if he wants to open the door, he needs to go open like that. So if you go through the micro course, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. It's kind of difficult to go through it in a live video. It'll take forever. Right? So Rohana says, sorry, where do I live? Oh, okay. So basically, guys, I'm not open for during the pandemic. I am currently living in Indonesia. Okay. And in Indonesia, I think it's pretty unsafe to open shops. And this is not the reason why I'm here. I've been doing this well before the pandemic, teaching parents online. Okay. If you can. Rohana, right? Rohana, please do find someone like, in your. In your local community. Okay? It's. Anything is better than nothing. Okay. I'm. You know, there's a. I'm really flattered that a lot of parents would. Wouldn't mind coming over to me from another country as well. But, you know, truth be told, and no, like, speech therapy is getting more and more popular and a lot of good therapists out there. Okay? So don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that don't come. Right. But I'm just not open. The only thing I do is online online courses, right? So the easiest one right now is the micro one. You can join it, see if you like or not. And then if it's too much for you, then, you know, then don't do it. You know, find someone to do it for you. But at the end of the day, you're the best therapist for your kid. You're the one who's 24 hours with them. Right? I'm sorry to hear that, Frank. Yeah, please do, Joyce. Please do. What we were talking about. Yeah, it's right. I think you should really teach the gestures make him do it. All right, if you can just go through the micro course a little bit easier. Tell us about your speech there. Oh, okay. Well, you can just go there and read it. Read it, right? I mean, it's just like in 10 different small videos telling you about. Telling you about, like, all the most frequently asked questions, like, oh, what if my kid doesn't have eye contact? You know, what if we talk, like, two to three languages at home? What if my hand. My child pulls my hand and leads me there? What if there's alien language and babbling? Whatever. Like, I go through the most frequently asked questions online and offline. So there. It just changes your mindset about it. That's the biggest thing about the micro course. It changes your mind. There's no, like, basic, basic, basic information you can find on the Internet, right? Those. I see some speech therapists doing that, you know, saying, oh, go down to the level. Talk to them. Talk as if. Whatever, you know, talk as if you're giving a commentary, you know, letting the child lead your play. I don't talk about that stuff, but I want to change your mind about why children are talking at their own, like, mood or whatever, right? Because that's. Because you're not inviting them to talk. You're making it stressful. You keep on repeating stuff, and that's not your fault. You just need to change how you're doing it. All right? So it's. Fret says, follow. Oh, okay. Well, the thing. That's good, that's good, that's good. You're trying this, right? But the thing is, does he want it? Right? Does he want it? And plus, the thing is, you cannot just do it once, and hopefully he will do it, right? You're showing it. He needs to do it. Like, you need to grab his hand and do it and then give it to him. Right? And the best thing to start off with the open hand gesture, like, if. If he really wants the potato chips, he will try to grab it, and then you turn it around and give it to him. Yeah. Do it enough times for free, okay? For free. And you hear that there's no, like, you need to give them so much stuff for free that they want to listen to you. And, you know, it works for anything, you know, for teaching children, you know, doing this online with you, this is something free, right? I'm telling you so much free stuff so that it's easy for you to understand and you want to. You want to take action with your child, all right? And therefore, maybe you will Join us on the course or something. So that doesn't really matter. So you need a. Why is he interested? Is because there's only two reasons if you watch all the videos. Number one, he doesn't want to or he doesn't know how to so solve those two problems, right. That don't know how to do it for him. He doesn't even need to think. He can be blank. He can be like. And then the want to make sure that the chips. He wants it. Right? Okay, okay. He only dragged me the thing. Give him open but not talking. Copy it and words and actions. There's no pointing also. Okay. Hey, Jasmine, truthfully speaking, if you're in the micro course, go, go, go watch it, you know, go, go join it. Because there's a whole video. Video 5 is all about that. Okay? Oh, hi, Vivi. Didn't call me mama while looking at. Looking at you. He just say mama when he want. Yeah. Again, Vivi, I think you're inside of our course. Follow it. Do the gestures first. Okay? And to all of you guys, he cannot copy. Yeah, don't need a copy. Take his hand and do it and then reward him. Okay? How can I send star? I don't understand sense Star. What does that mean? It's right. To be honest, there are loads of very, very good therapists in uk. Okay, doesn't need to be me. Doesn't need to be like anyone. Like, I'm pretty sure you UK has one of the best speech therapists, right? I'm not even joking. You can find one. Some of it is even for free from the nhs. Okay, how much time should you spend talking to your child? Does Wordbook help? Well, the time you should spend talking to your child should be nearly non stop, you know, it should be nearly non stop. So like we have a study like within the speech therapy community, we have a study saying that what we call language facilitation. And of course you can Google that or just watch from our YouTube or whatever about what language facilitation is, right? We say that at least three hours a day. Okay? At least three hours a day. It might be wrong, I might be wrong now. It might be updated or I might have forgot, but you know, it's in inside of like two to three hours, that kind of span. And you don't need to do it in like one go, you know, you can. As long as you're talking and you're interacting and you're giving your child enough language modeling, I think it's fine. Okay. Word books. I Don't know. Sometimes it depends on the kid. They like it, then they like it. They don't like it, then whatever. Always start with, does the child want or want it or are interested in it? You cannot sell a book, you know, you feel like a salesman, you know, at times when you're. You're introducing a toy or a book, Right. So always go for the lowest hanging fruit, as we always say. Right. Go for the things that your child is like, your child wants. So it's not a hard sell. It's easy to sell. And. And then it's easy to get them interested because they want it. And afterwards you can talk and they'll be interested. Easy. Right. So, Koyen, what's up? Well, the make sound part is that children who are delayed, they haven't made the connection between making a sound and getting what they want yet. Right. So when you are doing the. The. The gestures part. Yeah. Which is very good, by the way. Thank you for trusting me. I know it did a lot of convincing for you. But the gestures. Now he can do open pawn, right? Can he do other stuff? So, like, open, you know, I don't know, like lights, whatever. You need to teach him more, right? You teach him more stuff. Ready? And I would say that the reason why is because they haven't made the link yet, or else they'll be talking all the time. And it's hard for them to do. To make sounds intentionally. I would say it's hard for them to do it intentionally. All right. That's why it's hard. When they wake up, they make sound. They can do whatever sound they want, but when talking, it's very specific. The sounds, very Michael Kors. Isn't that a brand? Sorry. Yeah, that really sucks. I mean, like, Israt, if you can, then, you know, join the course first. It'll be like me helping my colleagues in the. In the United Kingdom to fill in for the information. Hopefully we're on the same boat as a. As a therapist there. Like, my philosophies are on the same boat, hopefully. That's what I mean. Okay, so, Wei Hui Yun. Sorry if I screwed up your name. So instead of keep asking back, what do you want? Can you tell me? Okay. Right. Yeah. Like what. What I mean is a lot of parents, they like, maybe you. Okay. You are very passive, right. The kid comes up to you, and then they keep on saying. They keep on saying. Like they keep on telling you they want something from you. Like they're pulling you, they're trying to grab you. They're Trying to climb up the counter. But then what do you do in return? You ask them like, hey, what do you want, man? What do you want? You got to tell me. What do you say? That's kind of hard. I mean, like, that's frustrating. If I wanted something really bad and I didn't speak the language and they kept on asking questions to me, when it's very obvious what I want, anyone would be mad. Okay? So instead you need to take initiative. Like, if you know what he wants already, put it in his face and then teach him how to get it from you, which is gestures. Right? If he wants, like the candies from you, it makes logical sense to take the candy and teach him the appropriate way to tell you what he wants. Okay. Instead of when he does want it, he keeps on, like, does everything he knows, like crying, whatever, stomping the ground. And then you keep on asking, right? Then it's. It's frustrating for the kid. I don't know, Joyce. I have no idea. I've never been to Philippines. I'm just gonna tell you that. Hey, Sita, how are you? Ashley says, how long would you suggest on screen time for a 23 month old boy? He can speak one word at a time, but very few hours. Should I stop him from watching tv? He watches all the time. I always say screen time should be a very, like, just minimum, as little as you can if he is alone. Okay? If you're with him, then of course you can teach them. You can pause it, you can talk together, you can have fun. Okay? So don't leave him unattended when he's watching tv. That's why, I mean, but I know that sometimes we all use TV as a way to get our own time back. Okay, I don't understand totally yet because I'm not a parent. I'm sure when it happens, when I have a kid, I'm gonna love giving my son the TV or daughter. Okay? But yeah, keep it at the minimum if you can, then watch it with him. Okay? You like bubbles? Bring it to me. Then I make bubbles and say pop and he pops. It doesn't say, right? Teach. Teach these verbs. Teach verbs. Okay. Pop is one of them. That's cool. So open the thing, right? And then take and then blow, Right? Blow can be like. That doesn't matter. It needs to be culturally sensitive. All right? I don't know how you would do it. So you can make. Make up those gestures. You can just search online sign language for blow and simplify it, whatever, and then just make Help them do it and then do the action. Right? So take his hand. Open, Open. Okay. Take, take. Okay. And then like blow, Take his hand. Blow. Okay. Blow like that. So do it many, many times until you understand it. Okay. Well, that's, he's pretty on point, I would say. Ashley, I don't think your child has a, has a big problem, actually. Cool. Do you have colleagues in. No. Well, I do have. I, I know a few speech therapists, but they're, you know, I, I, it's against regulation of the UK to give you like a direct name. And I don't want to do that. You know, like, if you want to go private, you know, search online, look at forums. I cannot, I, I've never worked in the uk. I've never worked anywhere other than in Hong Kong and here in Indonesia. So my, the best bet is to like, you cannot go through me. Like, it would be against regulations to do so. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's the thing about, like speech therapy. You, you know, in, in this country I'm living in, doesn't matter. I can, you know, give. People can refer to me however they want, but uk and I don't want to break it. I don't want people to say things about, you know, our brand here on Agents of Speech and say that, dude, I'm siphoning people to certain therapists. I don't want to do that. So please understand where I'm coming from. Okay. My daughter is 5 years old, only used one work to speak and write her own name. Memorize all numbers. Okay? Yeah, of course she's able to talk, right? She's able to talk in one word. Of course she has a chance of, to speak and to make a conversation with you. And she's smart enough to memorize all the numbers, right? So the thing about it is to teach her to interact with you, not about the what's, because she already know a lot of the what's and the nouns, right? And a lot of content inside of her mind. So the thing about it is to get her to learn how to talk to you, right? How to use the words. And the best thing for five year olds is play, right? Go search on our YouTube channel or just on Facebook or something. Go to like on Facebook page as Ming Fong, right? My name and on YouTube is agents of Speech, right? And then go look at the playlist for, for play skills, all right? Teach her to use those words and make longer sentences like that. All right? Yeah. As I told you, cannot do that. Yeah, great stuff, great stuff. Well, nice. Thank you for the, for the super chat. I never knew this was something like this. Thank you so much. Is it Jasmine? Jasmine Kyle. Thank you. Okay, so how to limit TV time. The thing is, if you want to limit TV time, what you got to do is to teach the child how to play with toys by themselves. And that starts off with you playing with the child with toys. As I told you, go to the YouTube channel and look at how to do play. Okay. But to do play, you gotta make sure that your child wants to play with you and fuse you as a resource. That's why I made the micro course so that parents will know how to use rewards to get them to like you and want to interact with you and make it easy for them and so on. Right. Great, Jasmine, thank you so much. Okay, yeah, Please teach him verbs. Thank you, Jasmine. That's really nice of you. I'm very happy for that. Very, very happy. Thank you. Sita says, my child watches cartoon in English and we speak in Nepali. I sometimes mix two language while talking to them to. This is having a problem. This is. There is a problem is because like if you mix the two languages, if it's, you know, don't do it in the same sentence. I always say, say that. So don't say in the same sentence. I grew up in both Chinese and English, right? And we do it all the time where we like mix English and Chinese in the same sentence. And it's kind of stupid, especially for children who are learning language, right. If you put two together, then how are they going to understand that those are two different languages with two different rules? Okay, so it's fine if you mix it, but don't mix it in one sentence or in one, what we call utterance, right? Finish what we're saying in one language and then you can change to another language if you want to. A lot of people, a lot of parents will say, hey, is it because of like two to three words that two to three languages in the household, therefore this is a problem? No, man, definitely not. If a child is speech and language delayed, they're delayed as a whole. They have, they, they are slower in acquiring language. And you know, acquiring language is across all languages. You know, it's not about the number of languages, obviously that's going to make everything slower because if you try to learn two languages at once, it's going to be slower. But nowadays in our world, two to three languages in one household is very, very, very natural, very normal. In fact, just talk about Me. Me and my wife, it's already very different. Our only common language that we can use all the time together is actually English, right? And I'm sure there's a lot of people here, a lot of moms and dads here. Like, you are having, like two to three languages at home, right? Just myself. I've got Indonesian, English, Cantonese, and Mandarin, which are two different, like, types of Chinese. So we've got four already. If we were have to have a kid, you know, so it's. I think it's wildly, wildly okay to. To. To have different language at home. And you can't stop it anyways, right? So don't mix it up in the same utterance, okay? And make sure you. You start talking about something, you finish off with that language and then change. All right? Hey, thank you for your trust. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Sadia says hello. My son is 3.3 years old. She speaks in words and not long phrases. Should I wait or should I go to head with speech? Yes, go ahead. And speech therapy. Dude only speaks with words by three. Definitely need a speech therapy. Oh, thanks. Thanks, Jasmine. You can. You can do me a favor and if you have. I think you have joined the micro course already, if you're inside. I'm very grateful for that already. This is not to make, you know, a whole bunch of money. It's not about that. You know, just to get it straight. So. Yeah, yeah, you go ahead with speech therapy, right? And then how to help them at home. Obviously, if you go to speech therapy, listen to the therapist and do what they say. Okay? If you have any questions about what the therapist says, obviously there are, you know, not so great therapists, and there are absolutely amazing therapists out there. Then tell us here on the lives. Tell us in the. In the Facebook group, right? If. If you don't know our Facebook group. This is our Facebook group here, right? If you're. If you're on. On Facebook, you don't know my YouTube. Go to YouTube and search for agents of speech, right? And you will see me. Okay? And tell. Tell us. Tell us where. What your. Your therapist has been saying to you. And if it makes sense or not, you can ask us. You can ask other parents. There are loads of parents who are going through the same thing as you, so you should not wait. You should go ahead. Okay. How to help them at home. You know, join the micro course if you want to, and listen to your therapist, see what they say. Okay? Her or she. Whatever. Candace. Hi, Candace. My son is 34 months old. Instead of saying, I want milk, he would say, do you want milk? Okay. So you won't saying, stop saying that until I say, do you want milk? And he would say, yes. If we go outside, he will say, do you want to play inside? I want to play. Okay. This is very. Is this language delayed? Yes, there's different. He's definitely using the question form incorrectly. So how to deal with this is to. You can do either two things. Number one, after you ask the question, give the answer right away so that he knows there's two parts to this thing. If you say, do you want milk? Yes, I want milk. Just say it. Okay. Number two, which is the easier one is to model what you need your child to say. Okay. It's confusing for children if they don't understand the question form. So don't ask. That's the easiest way to do it. Once they understand what they are expected of to do. Right? So let's say that you don't know a foreign language. And we're blessed because we can already speak. We already under language. Understand language. So when someone asks us a question, Right. Our tone goes up. Right? So even if you don't understand the language, you will know they're asking a question. But for children, that's not the case. When your intonation goes up, they find it funny, right? They find it funny. I have a kid. One of the first clients I had in Jakarta was that whenever he fell down, like your son, right. He would say, are you okay? Obviously it's because the mom kept on modeling, are you okay? To him when he fell down. So the same as you, Candace, you must have been modeling do you want milk? Like, you know, do you want to go play? That kind of thing. Stop asking questions and then just tell him what he should be saying. Once he knows what he should be saying, you can then change it back into the question form, right? So if he says, I want to go play. Oh, you want to go play? Okay, cool. Okay, you can go play. That is much more natural to teach a kid how to talk. Okay, so I'm going to wrap up tonight. It's been a wild ride. Thank you guys for tuning in and, you know, just hanging out with me on Monday nights and answering your questions are great. Are nice. It's very good. I would say I enjoy it a lot. And basically, now we're on agents of speech. What we're trying to do is to create courses that will help parents more than just these lives. If you go through that stuff that we have there already, it's much easier to ask better questions. For instance, Candace was talking about this thing about the child speaking in question form. If you're new, not to ask questions. If they don't understand questions, then this question would not. Your question would not come up. All right, so let me wrap this up for people who have joined later on. Our topic today is when you should go to speech therapy. Obviously it should be like, not obvious. Obviously. Or else why would I be talking about this? So after two is the. Is a better age. Okay. Two to two to two and a half. And why I say this because of attention span, number one. Number two, it's just more stuff to look at. Okay. And then why would you bring them? Basically, if there are two, they must be using words. They must be. All children should be using words across all cultures. They should at least be referring to things in specific terms. Okay. And I would still go for a speech assessment if your child isn't at two using some sort of two word phrases. Okay. That's what I would see. Okay. If they don't know how to answer questions, especially like what we call binary choices, like choices between two, like do you want apple or banana? They say apple. Banana. Then, yeah, go see a speech therapist. Right. At 2, if they're at 3, 3 year olds should be talking at, you know, at the very least two word phrases. They should be doing three word sentences. Okay. Sometimes well formed, sometimes not. Doesn't matter. They should be speaking 70% accurate for all speech sounds. You can understand what they're saying, but there are errors which are. Okay, Right. At three, if they don't understand questions like who and where. For instance, who's wearing glasses? This guy Ming. Right. Who is wearing the red shoes? I don't know, Mom. Okay, if they cannot answer that they don't understand, then it's difficult. Right. Wear questions. Where is the remote right now? Like, where's the remote? Can you find me? Oh, it's in the. It's on the counter. If they cannot answer that. Yes. Bring them to a speech therapist. Let them have a speech and language assessment. Okay, so that's it for tonight, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in and really enjoyed all the comments. So if you could do me a favor and share it and share this live to other people. And if you haven't, you know, subscribe on YouTube and also join our Facebook group. Okay. Join us Facebook group. And we do this every Monday night. And then you can ask anything you want. Right. If you're in a micro course, then even better. Because you can ask high quality questions like who's that? Like Ku Yen just now. That was a lot better than the starting questions that she had. Right? Like this one. This great. It's good. So check that out. And then, and that's all I have tonight. If you have a question, which I see two more. If you have a question, then type it. Okay, Carlton, where, where do I live? I live in Indonesia right now, okay? Live there. And it's very scary here, I'm telling you. Anyways, so that's it for tonight, guys. I will see you next week. Week. If you have any more questions, type them in the comments section so that I can get back to you after this. Live, okay? If you're watching a recording. So see you and have a great afternoon, night or morning and bye. Bye.










