YesTalk-226 - How to Blow It With A Perfect FSBO Text Script
24 Nov 2020 · 13 min
Kevin Ray Ward breaks down a real text exchange between agent Jonathan Hawkins and an FSBO seller to show why the agent's opening offer killed the deal. The seller wanted $50k more net than the agent proposed. Ward says motivation matters more than price, and teaches agents how to ask scripted questions about timing and relocation to find out if a seller is actually ready to move.
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Welcome to Kevin Ward's Yes Talk for Realtors. This is Kevin Ward. This is why most real estate agents suck when it comes to converting for sale by owners, listing the property and selling it for top dollar. Today I'm going to talk specifically about how to use the new for sale by owner approach and for sale by owner script to help you as a real estate agent without any bs to be able to help a for sale by owner make the decision to meet with you, hire you and let you get the property sold in a way that helps you get them a better result. In other words, it's a win win. It's a win for you and it's a win for the for sale by owner. A lot of people think incorrectly that that for a for sale by owner to hire an agent means the agent, the for sale by owner is going to lose money. Not so when the real estate agent is a master. And that's what we do. Yes Masters Real Estate Success training is we train real estate agents how to master helping sellers get a better result. Now that's not the point of this video, but it's just a I want to give you this understanding up front that helping for subway owners sell their house as a real estate agent is something that is not only good for you because you get paid when you do it, but it's good for them because you you can help them get a better result almost every single time, including netting it netting them as much or more or more money in their pocket than they can do by doing it themselves. Now having said all of that, I want to talk specifically about a conversation that one of my one of my yes Masters was having with a for sale by owner by text. Now we started training this year on how to use text messaging with for sale by owners to get appointments. So now you can click on the link in this video, you can click on the link down below to get your free download of the yes Masters Agent Power Pack which includes all of my core my best core prospecting scripts including for sale by owners and expires and the 2020 addition of how to use text messaging to get them to engage with you in a conversation. And so that is the framework where this conversation came from. And this is a post in our face our yes Masters Real Estate Success community Facebook group, which you can also join. We'll put a link in the description of this video down below so that you can join that Facebook group if you're a real estate agent and want to learn how to get more yes without the bs. So here is the question and then, and then I'll share with you the actual text message conversation. So this is one. One of my good friends, Jonathan Hawkins. He is one of my. Been a yes master for a long time. Jayhawk, I love you, bro, but I'm going to throw you under the bus on this one because you know better than to ask this question. So Jayhawk says, okay, this for sale by owner is way off the mark with what he or she would take for this property. Should I shoot for an appointment and help them see the light or are they way too unrealistic about the price? What would you do, Kevin Ward? So thank you for asking, Jonathan. I'm the right guy to ask in this case because I'm the one that trained you on these scripts. So here we go. Here's the actual text message. Put this up on the screen for you so you guys can see it. Hi, this is from the agent. Now this is from Jonathan. He says, hi, this is Jonathan with Euphoria Realty. Would you take $333,500 for your house after all expenses, in other words, net, you're going to net $335,000. The seller replies, thanks for the offer, but no, we won't. So this is all script. So the next question is, what's the lowest amount you would take? Now when you go and get to agent Power Pack, you download the scripts, you'll see that this is the conversation. You text them and say, hey, this is would you take this amount? And what you've done is you've done a quick CMA, figured out the property will sell for about $360,000. We subtract out the traditional typical closing cost in your market, including commissions and everything, and then that would be the amount of money conservatively that they're going to net when they sell it. And then we ask them, would you, would you take this amount of money after all expenses? And he says, thanks for the offer, but no, we won't. So what's the lowest amount you would take? The answer, 429K. $429,000. Now, by my calculations, we're about 100,000 off. This guy's about 25% or more. About 30% overpriced in what he would take as a net. Now, what we don't know is he may not have understood the question. He may have thought, would you take a sales price of 335, $333,500. It doesn't matter. Okay? It does not matter. Now, here's what's funny to me is this is in a Facebook group, real estate agents. Some of them are, yes, Masters, in other words, have been trained by me. And some of them are newbies that have no idea what they're talking about. So you get all kind of answers. And I'm again, this is not to be critical of anyone. It's just like you. You need to learn. You need to learn what you are doing if you want to win with Vercel Banders. So somebody says, I wouldn't even want to take an appointment with these guys. And another one says, it's pass. They're not motivated. They're playing the make me move game from the old Zillow make me move thing. Another answer is stay in touch with, with one call a week, send comps, set up a zoom, but don't waste your time unless they're at all motivated. No, don't do that. Another one. Toss that fish back in the water and let it swim away. Not all catches are good. Okay, another one just says, buy. Buyers are liars and sellers too are to get an appointment and find out their motivation for selling. So this is a better answer. Now, I don't really like to think buyers are liars and sellers are too. That may be true, but I don't. I'm not going to start with that presupposition. Anyway, another person answered, waste of time, move on. Anyway, it goes on and on. There's a couple of really good answers here. So Scott Marlowe from Phoenix, Arizona, one of my longtime yes masters, had a really good answer. But here's the deal. Here's the problem. You allowed your reaction, your emotional reaction to their price to make you go like, I don't know if this is a good seller or not. Okay, we all agree they're probably way, way ridiculously off on price. I'm not going to say probably. They are ridiculously off on price. That could be one of two reasons. Number one, they don't understand your question. And number two, nobody's helped them understand what the right price is, so they don't have a clue. Now the question is, are they too unrealistic about the price for me to even shoot for an appointment? And here's the answer. I don't care how unrealistic they are on the price. I don't know what I need to know to find out whether or not I want an appointment with this for sale by owner. What do I not know that matters? And here's what I don't know that matters. I don't know their motivation. Are they selling or not? Is this really a seller or is this just some, like, somebody said, make me move or just like, you know, well, if somebody will give me my price, I'll move. But I'm not really that motivated. I don't know. And so that's the. This is a real problem is whenever we make a decision about, well, I don't want to talk to this person because they're too unrealistic on price, in three months, they may have to move. They're out of here. And if that's the case, they're selling. And if they're selling, they need a great agent and need somebody that can tell them the truth on the price in a way that they get it and they understand it. So what is the answer to this conversation? I throw up the text message again here. What's the lowest amount you would take? $429,000. Okay, what's the next thing? Well, once you've downloaded the agent power package, you'll have the for sale by owner script. Or if you. You'll have the new for sale by owner script, and you'll see what's the next question? Next thing to say. And so I happen to have here the script in front of me, and it says that your response to them when they give you their price is great. When would be a good time for me to give you a call or. Got it. When would be a good time for me to give you a call? Now, if the guy said 333.5. Is that. Would you take that? And he says, thanks for the offer, but no, he won't. And he says, what's the lowest amount you take? And the guy came back and he said, 345. Okay, well, 345. We're only, you know, $10,000 off. We're just 2 or 3% off. We're really close and say, great. When it'd be a good time for me to give you a call here. He's nearly $100,000 off what I put. Got it. When would be a good time for me to give you a call? Now, why would I want to talk to a guy that's this much overpriced? Because I don't know what his motivation is. Okay, here's the point. There is one moving part when it comes to winning with for sale by owners or any seller in the market, any homeowner who wants to sell. There's one moving part. And here's the moving Part a motivated seller. Do I have a motivated seller or not? And the answer on this one is I don't know yet. How am I going to know? I'm not going to know until I engage with them in a conversation. And the key of a text message script, what makes a text message script work is I got to get them on the phone. If I can get them on the phone now I have a conversation and this is a permission based conversation on the phone. Because when I text back and say, great, when would be a good time for me to give you a call? And they go like I'm available now or how about in 30 minutes or whatever. Okay, if I can get them on the phone and I'm going to get them on the phone, then I'm going to follow up with the script and just say, hey, I'm the guy that was texting you and all that you said you wanted to take, you wanted to net no less than 429,000, is that correct? Got it. So, and then I'm going to go right into the script and if I don't know their name yet, by the way, again, my name is Kevin. What's your name? Bill. Hey, Bill. So when you sell this house, where are you going next? And then they tell you and you, great, how soon do you want to be there? And they say, I'd like to be there by the end of the year. Awesome. What's taking you to San Diego or wherever it is they want to go? What I'm identifying now is what really matters and that is motivation. If I know their motivation, then I know whether either I've got somebody here that is so unrealistic and they're not motivated. No need to talk, no need to meet. Great. Well, listen, right now, based on what the market's telling us, 429,000 is not even close to anything that's going to. That based on what the market's telling us is not going to be something that I can help you with. So right now, you know, I think I just wish you the best of luck. If anything changes, let me know. But if they're moving as a great, 429,000 is probably a little optimistic. When would be a good time for us to get together and look at what the actual comps are and see what we can do to get you the most money in your pocket to make this move happen? Okay. Use the for sale by owner script that we give you in the agent power pack. Again, the link is in the description below. So what are you seeing here? What has been your experience, what questions you have as you see this and as you hear about this? If you have questions, post them down below. If this video has been helpful for you, give it a thumbs up. With all due I want to give my shout out and compliments to Jonathan Hawkins, my friend. Bro, even though I kind of threw you under the bus on this one, I want to applaud you and acknowledge you for getting these conversations going. Because this, my friend, is how you win. It's how all of you win. When you're talking to sellers, you're putting yourself in a place where you can help them and you can help yourself. Hey there, it's Kevin. I hope you enjoyed today's podcast. Are you tired of getting no after no when you're out there trying to get listings and trying to inspire sellers to say yes to you, then I'd like to invite you to download a free copy of my no BS listing presentation. This presentation will guide you through exactly what to say that will have motivated sellers saying yes to you over and over again. Stop getting stumped with skeptical seller objections or the famous we need to sleep on it, eliminate the resistance and have sellers ready to hire you and give you the listing before you even finish your presentation. To get a complimentary copy of my proven listing presentation, go to yes masters.com forward/download again. That's yes masters.com download to download your free copy today. Sam.