S2: Introducing Renee Duffy - A New Co-host On MU Talks

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And welcome back to Mu Talks, a new episode.

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Great disclaimer here to start our new episode of MU Talks. And it is my excitement to actually introduce to you in this episode a new co host of MU Talks. Her name is Renee. Well, I'm gonna let Rene introduce herself more. And Renee, please tell us your name, who you are, what do you do at Multimedia University, and we'll start from there.

Yeah, yeah, I am Renee, and I just started in a brand new role here at Multnomah, which is super exciting. It's the academic operations coordinator. And I think the most exciting thing about this role is that it's new and we're building it from the ground up. And I get to work on what I'm passionate about, and I get to learn everything about Multnomah University, which is fascinating. So I'm learning everything I can about higher education, finding my place in it, and finding where my passions align with Multnomah's so that I can start pushing things forward. Forward for the good of the kingdom.

So you do understand now why we have a new co host. And Renee's role is so crucial at Malnoi University. And I think her. Her strengths will add value, tremendous value to our podcast will also get us much more organized and focused on bringing topics to you that are relevant.

Not that there was any lack of organization or charisma in the old hosts.

None.

There was no problem.

Zero problem.

Just thought we'd be better with three.

Just much better. And bringing different voices into. Into this. We are also preparing a line of guests, and Renee is actually already helping us with that, so really excited. So let's just get to know Renee a little better, and I'll let Rob go first and I'm gonna add my series of questions.

Yeah. So where are you from originally?

I am from central Illinois.

Oh, Illinois. Yeah, go.

Not Chicago.

Okay. Not Chicago.

Yeah.

Did you, like. Did you guys go into Chicago often when you were young or not?

No. Yeah, no, we lived a good three hours away from.

Oh, that's a long ways away.

It's a long stay.

I lived in Highland park just up. FYI. What's up? Did you. What's your favorite thing about Illinois.

Favorite thing about Illinois. Gosh.

Or maybe thing you miss.

Well, so I grew up being in the center of Illinois. Small towns. I grew up in a small town. I grew up on acreage. And actually, yeah, the house that we moved from had acreage, so I miss things like gravel roads and bullfrogs and things like that.

That's great.

Kind of ambiance, things. But other than that, you know, there just really isn't a whole lot going on.

Yeah.

And so we're really excited, actually. Enjoying it a lot.

Yeah.

A lot here.

Yeah. Yeah.

But winter goes throughout the state. Right. It doesn't stop just in the city, like this winter.

Oh, no. Winter is probably my favorite thing to have left.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I never walk outside in the winter here and wish I wasn't outside.

Right, right. Yeah. But it's. I mean, it's cold, but it's not like Canada cold.

Probably not. No, no.

Or Romania cold. Is it cold in Romania?

Big time.

But it's pretty cold in Romania.

Below 30 Celsius.

That's right.

Below 30 Celsius. We. We experienced that.

Yeah.

I could not survive.

No. Oh, yeah, you could, but. Yeah. Get used to it. Yeah. Did you have one? Yeah.

Well, I know that Renee is biblically trained, and I'm curious if you can tell us a little bit about your. Your pass topic, how you got to be passionate about it and just anything you can tell us about that?

Yeah. I fairly recently finished my master's in biblical and theological studies. I adored my time studying. Studying that way, studying the Bible academically. I'd never had a chance to do that before. I don't have a Bible undergrad. I have a liberal arts undergrad. And I started to pursue that master's because I fell absolutely in love with scripture in a way that I hadn't. I mean, I grew up in the church. I grew up reading my Bible, memorizing Bible verses and all of that. But I absolutely fell in love with scripture during a time in my life where I felt like it rescued me from a personal crisis.

Great.

And just finding that kind of hope and identity in scripture, I wanted to give that to other people. Like, I just. I wanted to do that. I wanted to do it well. I wanted to do it faithfully. I wanted to know that I. That I knew how to handle scripture.

That's a wonderful thing. Like, I. As you're saying that, I resonate. Like, I remember the first time I sort of fell in love with the scriptures. Like, you grow up reading it or whatever, and Then so Leslie and I were dating and we were like young 18 and I was out in northern British Columbia, tree planting and, and it was like 12 hours a day, every day out on the mountains. Like we went to the bathroom behind a tree kind of thing. Like it was, you know, start work at five. Terrible. You know, it rains on your head all day and we're just making a lot of money, but that's it. And I remember reading the book of Ecclesiastes and, and just very consistent with that space. Understanding, like the love of money and what people do for it and the pursuit of that and just how hollow. And you know, and I just. What? I just like every night when I get back to the tent, I just read Ecclesiastes. It was like life giving and I was like, this is saving me, this book. So I, I get that. That's cool. Did you do languages?

I did Hebrew. My program. I didn't have time to do Greek.

Yeah.

But I did Hebrew.

Good for you.

Yeah, I loved it.

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Did you do any languages?

No, not at all. My background is computer science.

Not yet.

Yes, I did Pascal and Python and C. Are those qualified languages? Yeah, programming languages.

Cool.

But I, I actually got. Changed my life in the first year of college, completely reading the Bible. Actually I, I opened. I grew up in a Christian family, but I, I was never a Christian. Like, just never. Yeah, I went through the motions, but went to college away from home. That was the party time. And in the first year of college I actually found the Bible, started reading the New Testament. I read the entire New Testament out loud in less than two weeks. I couldn't stop anymore. And by the time I was done, God completely changed my. I mean completely. Nothing was left. Not even goals, life goals, anything. Just everything was changed. And I, I joined a. An older minister, 74, 75 year old man going countryside like doing ministry for four, three and a half years. And that was my biblical training over there with him, just on, you know, alongside him. And so that's always my start in ministry. So.

Very New Testament.

Yeah, just Jesus. Yeah, yeah. Just very, very powerful. He came to Christ when he was 68, on a deathbed.

Y. Yeah.

And went to college. Went to Bible College at 70 and came out at 73 and then planted a church in a, in a, in a village where there was no church.

This is Romania, not San Francisco.

Yeah, Romania. And then he came in front of the church after two years and he was like, look, I'm, you know, I'm, I'M really old. I need somebody to help me, like. And, and God kicked me in my butt like I was right next to him without wanting to. I'm like, I'll do it. I'm like, no, I don't want to. I'll do it. Well, I really don't want to. And started kids ministry in the villages at 76. Some kids over there for three and a half years walk with them through the whole thing. So that was my, my Bible college time and then I just started in ministry, youth ministry. And I've been in ministry for 20 years. Yeah, but, but then as a person that never went to a Bible college or to have never been theologically trained but preached in most of this world, I am, I am the most passionate person about getting people into Bible colleges and seeing the lack of that and how important it is to get people into training before you hit the minist, preferably. But even after that, like how important is to really have some strong foundations because after that you're wearing the ministry. You can't build them as, as easy as you think.

So we're a balanced group then. Hey, we've got all kind of mine. We're all like Christians. So, you know, I got nothing else. But wait a minute, you're, you're not an immigrant, are you an immigrant? Okay, because we're both immigrants. But that's all right. That'll be good. That'll bring some non immigrant to the table.

And for our audience, that's not why we got another co host to have an American.

Not just because you're American. No. Well, you're American too.

American, yeah. We're the only non American American here. Well, you know, the American person that join us and balance the whole immigration session that happens in this room. Tell us a little bit about your. So you, you are biblically trained and you're passionate about that ministry, church things like what, you know, what are you passionate about in terms of ministry?

Well, I've had an opportunity to do a lot of things because, you know, if you go to a church and you raise your hand, you get to do anything. Right. Like, and I grew up, I was really fortunate to have grown up in a youth group where our youth director was adamant about participating, about serving, always serving. And so I grew up with just this, this mentality that when you step foot in a, if you step foot in a new church, you need to find your place to be serving immediately. Um, so I'm just always been, been busy. I've, I've taught kids, I'VE taught adults. I've spent a lot of time in the kids ministry because I have kids, you know, and so that's kind of an easy place to walk into. I. I adore teaching God's word to anybody. Like, I've had the same experience of just of feeling that. That. That rush of doing what I'm called to do, whether I'm in front of preschoolers, I've been in front of middle schoolers, I've been in front of adults. Like, it's just in. It's the word. It's the word being communicated that just. It's so exciting. It's so exciting to be able to do that. And I feel really fortunate to. To have been gifted in a way that I. That I get to do that, and I can do that.

And you're a mom.

And I'm a mom.

That's awesome. Yeah. Four kids. You win the prize in the room. Oh, we got three over here, and I got two. So you're. You. Congratulations.

Thanks.

I heard they give medals from four up.

Well, they should, because it's the. Well, anyways, it's the most important thing in the world. It is. Yeah.

I don't know. After. After you hit three island. You should just keep going after you hit three, it doesn't matter anymore.

You know, somebody asked me if it's harder with. With three kids, like, then two, and I said, no, it's different. But it's not harder. Like, it's. It's the same as having one. You're committed for life. Like, that's it. Like, you just have more work, but it's not harder.

Like, three was hard. Three was hard for us because three was the moment when we realized that we could no longer just queue up the requests.

Yes.

But some had to start dropping.

Yeah.

Like, it was no longer. Like, I'll get to you next. No, that. Nope, I'm never going to get to that. So that was the hard. That was the hard part about.

And you're outnumbered. You're, like, legitimately outnumbered. Like, you're okay. I have this. You have this. Who has that one running? Who's going to get that one?

Yeah, you still have. You have four hands.

You do.

Between the two of them.

Yeah, you do.

You thought it. That's good. But six legs, and my kids are older. Like, mine are 25 and 22. So for us, they're. They're legitimately an asset. Like. Like, you know, at the start, you're just working so hard for him. I remember it a little bit and you guys are both working hard still for him. But, but they get to be an asset.

We just started understanding the, the asset aspect with our five year old saying, can you go chase the one year old and see if they're safe like that? That's just the beginning of that. Right. But the 14 year old, I think.

Becoming, they become, they become an asset and then, you know, the, the team.

Then you become an asset.

You know, it's, it's different.

Yeah, it's a whole new dynamic.

Fun though.

Dynamic. It is, it is fun. It's so much fun to see. To discover who this person is, this person that you really like.

Yeah, right. Like, oh, the joy that my wife has when our kids walk through the door. Like, it's just like she's like, there's my. You know, she's invested so much in them and she cares for them so deeply. And then they come home and we've just, ours have just started dating. I had to be careful. This is on the Internet. But we're, we're super excited now. I myself in trouble. Yeah. It's been so fun to get to know they're like their people they're dating. Oh, really nice folks.

It's a different season. We are in such a different season.

I know.

Yeah. I'm still changing diapers. Like I can't, I can't. Yeah, they can't think.

It just gets so much easier. It's just so much. I got so much time. I just sit around.

Wow. Yeah, that's what we get him to do a podcast.

Different. Yep.

So Renee, are you gonna have a question for Renee? Because I have one right now.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

So I'm gonna go with this one, but I want our audience to get to know you a little bit. So here's. You know, there are many reasons for why we don't pursue controversy. Controversy on this podcast. Like, you know, we're not positive encouraging love. I'm not giving no, no, no shade full brand to other radio stations. But we're not positive encouraging. Just all things we talk about real stuff. But we don't, we don't just pursue controversy necessarily. And we're still really passionate about seeing every mu talks is about what's going on around the university setting and all this. I'm curious about your communication style. So if you, if you have hot topics in your life, how do you approach them? Like what do you like to. How do you like to tackle difficult topics in your life? How do you like to, you know, do you deconstruct them? Are you a deconstructor? You flip the table? Are you. Are you a fixer? Like, what. What is the. The approach that you would take to difficult topics?

I think my very first instinct is to be really quiet at first. I don't tend to assume I know what someone else is talking about. And then I really like to do deep dives and learn everything that I can about whatever it is. Learn about what both sides are saying. And then my favorite part is to see what both sides are saying and then go, what's underneath that? Why does this side worry about this and this side worries about that? Or why are they missing each other? Like, I'm more interested in. In. In why there's a controversy. Why. Why can't we. Why can't we talk to one another? Than I am really usually in the actual controversy itself. I think the controversy is fleeting and not really worth my energy and passion. I'd much rather work towards understanding the human beings that are in the controversy.

Yeah, good stuff. My question's more, like, holistic or whatever. Like, more. What's. So your husband, one of the things you love about him, like, when you first think about getting married to this guy, what were you like, okay, I want to marry this guy because of this. What was one of those things?

He is so grounded and steady. I'm not necessarily, like, prone to flights of fancy or lots of. Lots of anxiety, but he just. He still is that grounding and that steady for me. If any of our listeners are familiar with the Enneagram, we talk about the Enneagram a lot. He's a nine. And his motto for life is, it's all. It'll probably work out.

Yeah, it'll work out nice.

And so that is just. It's just like this anchor point for us, for us as a couple, for us as a family. You know, we. So we moved from central Illinois. We moved all the way out here. I mean, basically, nobody else in my family has ever done that. Everybody's there. Everyone lives in this, in a small area, which is. Which is fine.

Which is wonderful.

But if it wasn't for him and that anchor point, I never could have taken that leap, and I never could have done that, moved all four of our kids and. And done all of that. So he is. Yeah, I so value just that, like, steady, steady guy.

Cool.

Yeah.

Wow.

Going back to the point that you made, because I really enjoyed. And I think we. We can talk a little bit about that. And although I really appreciate the personal question, because we get to Know Renee a little better and I didn't know that we work now for, we've been working together for how long now?

Almost two weeks.

Two weeks. Two weeks, ladies and gentlemen. That's a long time. But I really, I really love the point that you made about getting to know the person behind the controversy. Getting to know the person behind the. Do you find that to be, to be more difficult these days? Do you think there's just so much controversy in the air that it's difficult to get to know the people behind. I'm just looking in your circle in, in what's going, you know, the polarized world that we live in.

Yeah.

Right now I'm just curious how, how difficult it is to do that these days.

I do find that with the heat that exists and all the controversy right now that I find myself being, wanting to first ask my question. Is this person willing to be known?

Right.

Because I, I wonder if maybe in some of this controversy it's, it's so heated that it's, you can't even approach it. You can't even, you can't even answer those questions because things are just so hot. That makes sense.

It's nice when you're talking. Every once in a while you're talking to somebody that's, you know, halfway smart on, on the Internet or whatever, in real. And then you, you can actually say your ideas without thinking they're just gonna, you know, copy and paste an article back at you or something that I, I occasionally, it still happens in the world, but it's.

Right.

It's like the heat. That's a good phrase. The heat is up so high that you, you almost have to just stay out of stuff.

You have to stay out of stuff. Okay, so rapid question time.

Okay, rapid.

Are you going to go for it? We're going to do rapid question time. So favorite country in the world. Favorite place in the world. You know the microphone, pick that up. You know the microphone, pick it up. Please don't say Canada. Cuz just because he's here, that's the only reason I don't want you to say. If it's Canada, you can say Canada.

I don't, I don't have one. I haven't, I haven't done enough travel.

You gotta say America.

Yeah. Favorite place in America so far.

The pack. Northwest.

Oh, there we go.

Yeah.

Packed world.

Okay.

Favorite sport or not.

It's not really my thing.

Favorite food.

Wow. Okay.

I love new. Anything that's new.

Everything new. Just like trying new stuff.

Yeah.

Do you like Spicy food.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to pretend that I can do one of the wing challenges where people get their picture on the board, but yes, I do enjoy.

You have to go on a vacation. You have someone giving you 10,000 bucks and you have to go on a vacation for only one week and you don't get to keep any of the money after. Where in the world?

The Mediterranean.

Oh, that's. No way.

What part? Like what?

I don't know.

Okay.

I don't know.

Do you bring the kids or not? We can edit this out. She said yes. She said yes.

Well, after. After having kids for so long, I think it's. Oh, no, you don't have vacation. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

Anyways, saved you there. Let's keep that point. Okay, rapid questions. If you could go to any concert, what would you go to?

Oh, Chris Thaley.

Ooh, I don't even know that.

I don't know that.

He's a mandolin player.

Yeah, mandolin. Good for you.

Punch brothers. He's the lead, but he's done a lot of.

Do you play an instrument?

I used to. I played all through school, but I haven't played in a long time.

Which instrument? The Mandalore?

No, no, Actually my husband plays string instruments.

There we go.

I grew up. I started with. I played saxophone and I played trumpet and I was a drum major all through high school. I played a little bit through college, just in the university bands and things like that.

Here's a big one. If you could fight, and I'm not saying that you would ever fight, but if you could fight one duck sized horse or a hundred or no, no, no. How does it go?

100 diagram.

100 duck sized horses or one big horse sized duck, which would you fight? So if you could fight one big massive horse sized duck or a hundred duck sized horses.

100 duck sized horses.

For real?

Yes.

That's a. That's a youth min question if I've ever heard.

So you would fight 100.

Yes.

Duck sized horses?

Yeah.

Not one big duck?

No.

Like.

Okay, interesting. Apparently that question talks about how you like to handle problems. If you want to have one big problem or if you'd rather deal with a hundred small problems. It is something that's not.

You just wasn't supposed you were going for.

This is just a general youth main question. I came back with the hook on that.

I mean, I was thinking about the actual literal physical pain.

One big duck would be tough. One big duck size duck.

But you're. You would rather go for a hundred, like Little problems than dealing with this massive giant problem.

Do I have an unlimited time?

No. And very limited. Like, what is this, Hunger Games? You don't have so many tools to fight it. Yeah, it's like fists. You would have no tools and no time.

Oh, man.

Yeah, it's tough. I was. I was hearing the question. I'm thinking, I'm a pacifist. I'm not gonna fight it.

I knew that's what I'm saying. Like, not that you would fight it. What about you, Rob?

Yeah. No. Would you fight it?

Who would. Would you fight?

I don't want to hurt a duck.

They would come at you. This can't. Like, it's not. You can fight.

So what would you do out of the box?

You're destroying my.

I'm putting my life in the hands of God and accepting the consequences of.

All these ducks walking all over you. This little duck.

I'm an ordained met. What am I going to do?

Duck sized horses walking all over.

I'd probably run. You would run? I don't know. I mean, I feel like justified in fighting back. If they attack.

Now that you know it's about problems, you just admit it on the pot. Because they run away from.

Well, that's probably accurate.

Yeah. It's what we learn here is that you actually, you don't face problems, but you just like, make up an alternate option.

Yes, that's exactly right.

I don't. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Driving. Driving style fast with loud music or you are a rule abiding citizen.

Four kids in the car. I drive a minivan. Okay, come on.

You can still drive a minivan fast with loud music. I've seen people zoom past you and I'm like, I hope you don't have no kids in that car.

But you're probably still starting to think about, hey, my kids are watching me drive now. I mean, not too far off.

My oldest, it's turning 14.

Right. They're gonna drive something close.

So one year and we have to learn. Teach her how to drive.

Yeah. Two years and they can go get milk for you. Like at the store. You can send for milk.

You know, in Europe, they don't allow parents to teach their kids to drive. You actually have to take them to school. So I'm debating if it's actually better here to, like, you get a chance to teach your own child. Like, you get to see who, what, what kind of person they're going to be in the thing. They. You actually have to take them to a special school. Like, it has to be A certified school that teaches them that you can't. You can't.

Well, I learned in school. It was part of school.

No way.

Yeah. I mean, where we were. I also learned how to drive on country roads where, you know, I mean, it's totally different. So I have no idea how to teach someone to drive.

In Portland.

In Portland. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Portland's okay because people drive 50 here that drive.

Yeah.

Anyways, I'm not going to admit that.

Rock steady husband of mine. Do it.

That's right.

That makes sense.

Yeah, absolutely.

Question.

Oh, man.

Rapid question.

Rapid, rapid questions. Yeah. Favorite toy growing up?

Yes.

Yeah. Did you have a favorite toy? Like, do you like. Did you like the toys?

I mean, I had a very large collection of stuffies.

Okay. That counts.

Okay, here's the question. Favorite game to play, either with the family or by yourself.

Settlers of Catan.

Oh, that's a great game. Oh, yeah. I need to bring that to France.

Yeah. We have taught our children how to play this now.

Oh, man. Playing with your kids?

Yeah.

I'm at the point where one kid thinks I'm being too easy on the other kid when I'm playing the game.

Oh, no.

But they don't realize my strategy. But that's fine.

Okay.

If you could change anything in the world right now, and you would have the power to do so, what would you change?

Wow. Anything.

Anything.

Well, I mean, I'm obligated to say I'd get rid of COVID right?

You're not. Let's get that out of the way. There are already people working on that. That's cool that you. Yeah, you can say that. But that's cool you would do that. Let's say, like, Postco World.

Oh, gosh. I, I, I don't even know where to begin. That's, that's a lame answer. I'm gonna have to. I have no idea.

No, we'll take it. Do you want some hard ones or not really too hard?

Well, let's, let's, let's see. What, what's hard?

Okay, here's hard. If you could go back in time and give yourself one piece of advice when you're starting high school or middle school. Question. What piece of advice would you give yourself?

Be brave.

Yeah.

It's okay to be brave, right? Yeah. I let, I let fear stop me from doing a lot of things I wish I would have done.

Right.

Yeah. That's what I tell my kids. I mean, that's, that's those kinds of questions. I mean, isn't that what you're telling your kids whatever you wish someone would have told you. That's what you're, like, impressing on them.

It's true. One reason why you're glad you're a Christian.

I have hope no matter what.

Yeah.

Like real hope. Like, not flimsy hope. It can never be taken away. I have. I have massive hope.

So that's really good. Here's. Here's one for you. If you would be called. Called up to do a filibuster, and you would have to speak for five hours. What's one topic, five hours straight? Well, what's one topic that you would actually be able to speak for five hours and you'll be okay with it? Straight? I mean.

I mean, parenting.

Yeah.

Okay, that's. That's an easy one. I have a lot of opinions about parenting, and that makes sense. Yeah.

I'll be the best filibuster.

Yeah.

The history of filibusters. Be like, okay, so let me tell you, get three bottles of water.

I'm gonna start with my first child.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, delivery is hard.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's good.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Parenting.

We don't.

You know, I actually think we learn more about how to drive a car than how to be parents.

Yeah.

I think that's problematic in this generation. Like, people think, you know, how to be a parent, like, you don't have to learn. But I'm here to tell you that we don't know how to be parents. Like, we know what to do. We kind of learn. But I think it's so much intentionality to help me have to learn from each other what it means to be.

Parenting is hard.

It is hard.

Yeah. And getting actual useful parenting wisdom is hard.

It is hard.

It. And now, you know, there's sort of different ways of thinking about stuff between the older generations and the younger generations, too. Or at least, you know, there was when I was. And so even that, you know, somebody has to be. Yeah. Perhaps the world changes or whatever, but, you know, interesting world.

So we're getting close to our time. I think we had a good opportunity to get to know Renee as she is going to join our. Our podcasting team and deconstruct and construct all kinds of guests in here for us to really do a true MU talks, to talk about university matters, to talk about life matters, to talk about ministry. And you got a chance to now know who Renee is. If you are listening to this podcast way after it's done, way after the Facebook Live is going to conclude, please continue asking questions. I am Quite certain that we will be able to answer some of the questions you have. Do you have anything. Okay. Any concluding thoughts that you want to share with us as you're joining now? MU Talks. It's your, it's your time.

Oh gosh, yeah. This is an exciting opportunity for me to have what I'll call a real conversation with people about things that matter and people who are smarter than me. I can't wait to just talk to people who have studied way more about their particular disciplines and just, just glean from them the way they think about the world, the way they think about problems in their disciplines. I just can't wait to learn along with you.

Yeah, I know we've learned tremendous amount of good stuff in here and I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed the ride. So thank you. You can find us on soundcloud.com forward/mu talks. MU talks. You can actually Google Mutalks. We are on Apple podcast. We are on, we're on 150 places actually with the podcast. So you can subscribe. Come, come with us, ask us questions, join us. If you want us to bring somebody here to, you know, we are, we have 32 majors at Multoma University and on MU plus we have 32 courses available for you for $10 if you can believe that or not. So if you have questions for us, find us, find us on social media. You can easily find and subscribe to Reverend doctor Robert J. Hildebrand. So Robert Hildebrand, if you look for Hildebrand, Robert Hildebrand, you'll find a chateau owning Prince of France in, on, on YouTube. What's your channel name?

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My pronunciation.

Oh. But I actually, you know, can I tell you a fun fact?

Yeah.

Do you know I actually was fluent in French and I completely, I forgot most of my French. I was fluent in French and if I've never spoken for like seven, eight, nine years.

Yeah.

And completely, you know, but I can, I can empty per. Kind of, you know, all these situations, but I completely forgot the language. This is. Some people don't think you can forget a language, but you can completely forget a language. And it's unfortunate. But find us, talk to us, let us know what you think if you want us to have a topic or if you want us to have a guest, we would love to bring people from the academia in front of you. And Renee is definitely going to help us and keep us connected to some great minds as we are in pursuit of great thoughts. So thank you, everybody. We're gonna do something. You'll hear Rob do something really cool because it's very important for us and for people to know. So here we go, ladies and gentlemen.

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