Beyond Mental Chatter: Grounding Yourself Through Nature and Breath with Carlie

All right, welcome back to the Infinite Gold Podcast. It is your show host, Bree and Anthony Goldner. Today we have a very special guest, and I'd also like to acknowledge my soul sister Carly says she is originally born in Italy, grew up in Africa. She speaks 4 languages. She moved out to the U.S. in 2018. She went into the safari hunting business, and she's had some cool jobs like transporting gold, and she studied psychology. She also escaped an abusive relationship in Tanzania, which I believe is what brought her to America. If I'm, uh, staying correctly.

Um, one of the many reasons.

Yeah, okay, so yeah, one of the many reasons, uh, left and got out into, into another bad relationship and then was able to rediscover herself through nature and breathwork and then in turn found the love of her life. Carly, welcome.

Thank you so much for having me.

So where do we begin, Carly? You have an amazing life already in the short years, not long, short years of your life. And the many jobs that you've had, you know, from the safari hunting business to the transporting gold, which is really cool because our last name is Goldner.

So, I know, I love that.

That had to have been a fun job. And then also doing now all of these adventures and these hikes and Kilimanjaro, Mount Rainier, Mount Whitney. What brought you really to the idea that nature's where it's at, man.

For the years of struggle and turmoil, I feel like nature is what really helped me to rediscover myself because it, it really cuts out all the distractions, all the noise, and you're forced— I mean, I already, I love spending time with myself. I love solitude. But you know, we're so distracted with phones and TVs and podcasts and all the things that You know, when you're out in nature, and especially if you're doing something hard, uh, challenging like climbing a mountain, it's just you, yourself, your thoughts, and God and nature. You know, it's, it's like you're, you're forced to reconnect with the things that truly matter. Um, I'm like, there's no escaping it at that point. You know, you, you, you go through what you go through, you work through what you need to work through, and it's just It's such a beautiful thing. It's such a beautiful experience that not enough of us experience anymore because we're indoors all the time, or we're just busy, right? Um, if you have kids, if you're married, if you're, you know, XYZ, fill in the blank, there's, um, just constant chatter all the time. And it's— yeah, we're just not used to just even going for a 10-minute walk by yourself. I mean, that's what saved me, was that was like the only time that I had that really felt good. Um, so it became a non-negotiable for me. A daily 10-20 minute walk turned into, you know, what Chris and I do now with Eternal Warriors, where we go all over the world and all these adventures outdoors. Um, And, you know, like Greg said the other day on the call, he's like, we bring people out on these adventures, we call God and he answers most of the time. Like Megan experienced where we're climbing Kilimanjaro and it's, it's so beautiful.

So yeah, straight up. Well, cuz it is forcing you to be where your feet are.

Correct. Yeah, for sure.

Love that.

Yeah.

So basically what got you into this was finding yourself and being more one and true to yourself. What is something that you would recommend to somebody out there, man, woman, doesn't matter, because we all go through it. Um, how do I get more present and more centered, um, if there's so much going on? I mean, we've got— I've got two phones here, I've got another work phone, I've— we've got this computer. Like, there's so much going on. How do I even break away from it, um, when there's so much in front of me?

I feel like it has to be a conscious choice. It has to be you have to put effort into it, you know, especially if you've got kids, if you've got, um, a wife or a husband, or, you know, two, two, two phones. That doesn't help. Um, it has to be a choice. You have to carve out some time to do it, even when you don't feel like it. Like, I didn't want to go out for, you know, a walk when it was cold outside, but again, that's literally what— that's what saved me. Um, so If it's, you know, speaking to your partner, um, and letting them know, it's like, listen, I need these 20 minutes to go do XYZ. And I know for you, like, you work a ton. We're just talking about that. It's like you have 2 days off in the next month, which is insane. Yeah. Um, but you know what, if you make things a priority, you will find time for them, right? Um, and I love that. Absolutely. Breathwork for me was another huge one, and I know we've talked about that in the past. And Bri, like you said, it helps you to be where your feet are. It helps you to be more present. Um, and it's, you know, we all have this like annoying roommate. Not all of us. I told Chris the other day, I'm like, I have this voice in my head. And he's like, what are you talking about? You're crazy. Like, no, I feel like some of us have it and some of us don't. But it's this, you know, this internal chatter that we have. I feel like for us women, it's, it's so common. And I call it this annoying roommate, and it gives us bad advice, and it, you know, it tells us that we're bad at this and we're bad at that, and all the stories and all the limiting beliefs. And somehow, and for some reason, we keep going back to this annoying roommate to ask it for advice, and we actually listen to it even after, you know, the bad history and the bad record that it has with us. Um, and we, we choose to listen to it and You know, we have to get to the point in life where we just decide to kick this annoying roommate out of our heads and just go back to the core of who we are. And that's, you know, pure consciousness. That's our soul. That's, you know, whatever you want to call it. And breathwork and nature really helps us to reconnect with who we are in here. And it's like that knowing, you know, like again, Greg said, like, I don't believe that I'm XYZ. I know. That that's who I am. So getting rid of that roommate is— it's been an absolute game changer. And it's not perfect. Sometimes it sneaks back in. He's like, hey, can I come live with you again? I'm like, no, go away, get out of here, get out.

Yeah, like, I changed the locks, you don't get a key anymore. Set your back door. Hello?

No, can I break in? Housekeeping, turn down.

But, but it's not housekeeping, it's the tornado.

Exactly.

Are we talking about our toddlers, or what are we talking about here?

No, that mental roommate that she's talking about. I know, but yeah, no, no, that too. Experience it.

Our actual, our actual toddler roommate, uh, creates the tornadoes too. But no, actually, uh, you can't kick that one out. No, no, and I love that one too much.

Yeah.

Um, but it's funny you mentioned women, and I think, uh, probably the majority of women have that, but also I think the men who are so high-strung and so trying to do so many things, 'cause I feel it where the chatter comes in and a lot of times my chatter is more of, instead of it being the limiting beliefs, it's the, hey, what if we go do this? Hey, we need to go do this. Hey, this needs to happen, this needs to happen, this needs to happen, this needs to happen. So let me ask you a question for somebody like myself and/or some women out there who are having that chatter. What meditation techniques or breathwork do you recommend to be more grounded? Because I'll be honest, I've tried meditation before and I last about 2 seconds because I'm already thinking about something else and I'm already doing something else. Now everybody says that's hard. Do you continue to do it? No. And I know that's what needs to happen, but if there's some techniques you have for myself and/or everybody else out there, we'd appreciate it.

You're like, yeah, help! Just saying, the buffalo in you. And for those of you who don't know, look into the animal profiles, reach out to any of us, and we will, we will share those with you. But I can understand the buffalo in you. You're always like, go, go, go, next thing, next thing, you know, ramming your head into things all the time. Um, I mean, it's— there are so many different practices out there. Yeah, even within just breathwork, right? You've got box breathing, you've got Wim Hof type of breathing, you've got um, holotropic breathing, where you go on like this— it's almost like an acid trip that you go on.

Um, are you talking about the, the dark rooms and ayahuasca? Is that what we're talking about now?

Yeah, but just using your breath, which is wild.

Okay, very interesting.

All right, you're pretty much hyperventilating, uh, for 3 hours straight, but it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful journey sometimes that you go on, and sometimes nothing comes up And that's what, you know, sometimes I'll, um, you know, sit outside or I'll whatever, I'm on my couch doing breathwork for 10 minutes and nothing comes up and I'm like, I can't wait for this to be over, this is dumb. And I keep getting like, my brain squirrels so much and Chris will attest to this. He's like, stop squirreling. Oh, I just, nope, get back to what you were doing. My brain does that all the time. And I feel like when I have an expectation of what, uh, a certain session is supposed to look like, or, you know, meditation or breathwork or whatever it is, when I have expectations, I get disappointed because I'm focused on what it's supposed to be like and what's supposed to come up. I'm like, oh, I'm supposed to have this like wild, you know, journey or experience. Sometimes nothing comes up. Sometimes it sucks. And that's okay. You just have to stay consistent with it. And I think the most important thing is using your physiology, using your body to shift your mind. We like to think our way out of things, and I'm like, that— you can't wait— think your way out of anxiety. You can't think your way out of depression. You can't think your way out of, you know, XYZ, fill in the blank. I know that, that triad that we— that we, you know, Greg taught us, using your physiology, and then like you attach when you focus on something, you then attach meaning to it, and then, you know, blah, blah, blah. So using your body to shift your mind, and you— it's just, yeah, it's— you can't, you can't force what comes up. You just let it come up, and whatever comes up, yeah, you don't, you don't, um, judge it. You don't— you just appreciate whatever comes up, um, and, you know, It is what it is. Like, don't expect a certain experience is what I'm trying to say.

Right, right there is good. And that, that kind of hits home for me because every single time I've gone into either the breathwork or the meditation or what have you, I always have an expectation. I've set an expectation every single time for it. And it's like, okay, what if I listen to Carly and I just go in without an expectation? If something happens, great. If nothing happens, awesome. And then from what I hear, like, even if you can get into a meditation state where you honestly thought about nothing for 10 minutes, it's actually even more healthy and beneficial for yourself because you were able to turn off that crazy squirrel brain for 10 minutes and you've been able to recover and come back even stronger after. So that, I love that. That makes sense.

Yeah. To quiet your mind.

Yes. I don't have very much opportunities for that except when I'm sleeping.

Yeah. Right. Well, you know what could be a good one for you too is, um, um, yoga nidra. It's NSDR, um, non-sleep deep rest. Andrew Huberman talks about it a lot and it can even, you know, It takes like 10, 15, 20 minutes sometimes where you're not going into— you're not sleeping, but you're resting your mind and your body. So it's— I tried it once and I did fall asleep. However, it worked. I woke up refreshed.

Nice.

I mean, if that helps me fall asleep too, I mean, that sounds like a win-win.

Then why not?

It might be something you need to do before you go to bed. That way you, like, go to bed with an empty mind.

Yes.

And then you could sleep a little bit more peacefully so you don't go to sleep thinking about the next business, Y and Z, and the next business you want to start tomorrow, right?

The, the fifth LLC, which we won't talk about.

Oh yeah, don't tell our tax guy that.

Yeah, I mean, we talked about before we jumped on, we want to have the vacation home in Italy and we needed the private jet to get there. Well, we got to make money to do all that, so I'm just saying.

Fitness.

Yeah. Exactly.

Well, we're gonna have to get something on the coast maybe, or in the countryside, either one. As long as espresso and coffee's present, we're good.

That, that was the best part, I'm not gonna lie.

And pasta, pizza was so good too.

We lost weight. Yeah, in 2 weeks.

Straight up, I lost weight and I, and I ate everything.

It's not like I was on a diet. I ate everything.

Chris and I will have like 10 scoops of gelato. And because like, I'm not even exaggerating, like we'll have 10. The gelato people that sell us the gelato are always like, are you sure? Is this just for you? And I'm like, we're like, yes, 100%. And send it, please send it, send it, send it. And he's fine.

Yeah.

And speaking of coffee, have you guys ever had, um, Nappuccinos, where you have a coffee right before you take a nap, and within like—

heard of it, and I don't know how you do that.

What?

Because the caffeine doesn't kick in for another like 10, 15, 20 minutes. So when you wake up from your quick power nap, it's like a double, um, ready to go. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. I don't nap normally, but the few times that I, that I have, I'm like, wow.

I used to nap and then I got two kids.

So drink it. Yeah, go take a nap for 10 minutes and then wake up and be like, bam, bam, bam, bam, let's go.

Yeah, yeah, like, let's go. But you have to be able to fall asleep right after you drink it. Otherwise, if you wait for it to kick in, then it's game over. Just no nap. Just push.

I'm not falling asleep in 10 minutes, so yeah.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I was like, how do I know that I fall asleep in 10 minutes?

Well, then don't try it.

Yeah. No, I, I always feel like if I go to lay down to try to take a nap, it takes me longer to fall asleep.

Yeah. It just has to happen organically. You have to, like when you're watching a movie, it's like you start one of these. Yeah. Start drooling.

No, it's getting mouth open, snoring.

Mm-hmm.

She always catches images of me doing that.

It's so good.

So when— what was the last adventure that you guys went on?

Ours would be— the big one would be Italy.

Yeah, Italy.

Okay.

And it was amazing.

So go back so bad. Yes, we're definitely getting a vacation home out there.

Yeah, without a doubt.

Not if, but when.

Not if, but when.

So that kind of leads us into adventures. So after you kind of rediscovering yourself, you met this amazing man named Chris, and you guys started Eternal Warriors. And now you can now pass on all that information. Yep. And the color of it is awesome. Just throwing that out there. It's gold. And, um, but helping others also reconnect with nature. What, obviously that's gonna be the leading one, but what else got you guys to start Eternal Warriors?

Hmm. Well, when I first met Chris, who I'm a huge fan of, of course, um, of course he, he'll be on another podcast episode with us. Right. Stay tuned. Yeah. Yeah. No, I freaking love him so much. So one of our very first dates— I mean, we went on a few dates. Of course, I'm not like a complete psycho where I go on an adventure with a man that I don't know. But our first adventure together, and that's kind of how we connected, and that's how he slid into my DMs. He was— he was like, hey, I'm going to climb Mount Whitney. In a, you know, a couple months. Do you want to come with? I don't, I don't think he thought I was gonna say yes, and I'm like, 100%, let's do it. And it's like, okay, cool. So, and that's how we got to, you know, talking, and we got to know each other better. And, you know, we want to spend the majority of our lives outdoors. I mean, I still, I love home, I love stability, you know, especially we have our new home, right? I love all that. Awesome, right? So good. I can't wait to have you guys over.

Um, oh, it's gonna be a blast.

But the, the way that, like, I was able to connect with him, I was able to connect with myself. And you just— it's harder to do that when, like, you know, we were talking about earlier on, when you just have so much going on. And it's all about connection and of course self-discovery. Um, but going on these adventures was just so good for the soul, and it, like, I— it's just indescribable, especially when, okay, when you're doing hard things, right? Um, I know Andrew Huberman talks about this with, you know, David Goggins, for example. He talks about the part of your brain that grows when you put yourself through adversity, and, you know, you're doing things that you don't want to do, and it, it just— you discover parts of yourself you didn't even know existed. And every time, every time, every time, and every adventure, every mountain, every whatever it is, always has a different message for you. So when we first did Whitney, I was like, this sucks. I'm never doing this again. I love you so much. I love being out in nature, but I wasn't a mountain climber. I lived on, you know, flat ground on the equator in really warm weather for the majority of my life. So I meet this man who takes me up, you know, the tallest mountain in the lower 48. Yeah, it's cold. I'm like, I haven't really climbed, you know, I've climbed for, you know, like maybe a hill or a mountain when I was younger. Um, that was the extent of it. And I did this really hard thing and I was like, wow, you know what? I'm actually kind of obsessed with this thing, with, with this doing, doing hard things, uh, situation.

So we're gonna pause you real quick.

Go for it.

They are so loud. Also, go tell them to be quiet.

Oh, I can't hear a thing.

Oh, that's good. Well, then if you can't hear it, then it probably— then maybe this audio is doing pretty good.

It's really good.

Yeah, and it's taking away the outside noise because it's supposed to, but— and then we'll just obviously edit this part out now. And we interrupted you, so we'll get back to the mouth reading part.

Yeah, I'm like, I can't hear a thing. My brain was just going back to that, that first adventure. I'm like, yeah, I chose this really for the rest of my life.

Sorry, I was hoping you guys were gonna just continue and ignore me. I was checking to make sure the door was locked.

I already locked it.

Oh yeah, because Jackson swung it open the other day when I was recording my solo episode, and I'm like, interesting. I was like, oh my God, I was 15. I was like 15 minutes in. I was trying to go for 20 to 25.

I'm like, okay, we're gonna start this over.

Okay, now we'll just pick back up where we left off. Yeah, that's, that's what I ended up having to do.

I mean, and start and go.

So Mount Whitney.

And Mount Whitney, yes. Um, so yeah, apart from reconnecting and rediscovering, you're going like taking what you learn on these adventures back to your daily life. You know, that flat tire or that annoying person at work or that, you know, tough conversation that you have to have aren't so difficult after you've been through things that are way harder. And your capacity for things increases, right? You adapt and you become resilient and you're able to hold more. And there's this lady on Instagram that I've recently started following, and she describes it beautifully. How strong people— if you're just strong, you're like a balloon, right? And you can pop. You have to be resilient and you have to be able to increase your capacity because you can't keep being strong, strong, strong, strong, strong. And then something like you've reached your max capacity and then you're like, you just burst. And that was so powerful. I was like, wow, damn, that's so good.

Yeah.

You know, and everybody's capacity for hard is different. Right?

Yeah.

For some people it could be like, for me, a few years ago, you know, after some of the interesting situations, people that I had in my life, um, taking a shower was a massive win for me. Going for a 10-minute walk was a massive win for me. I was like, damn, you got this, Carly.

Yeah.

And I look back and I'm like, dude, that was only 2 years ago. If you— 2, 3 years ago, 2 and a half years ago. Um, actually 2 years ago, uh, because we're in 2025. That's wild. And now my capacity for hard things has increased so much. Had you told me 2 years ago that I was going to be doing a podcast or talking on stage or any of that, I would have thought, you know, you were crazy. Um, but here we are, and now this is, this is enjoyable. This is normal because I'm connecting with amazing humans. So just having that perspective shift and having those experiences completely transforms your life, because then you're like, okay, what's next? What's next? What's next? You know, it's the next mountain, it's the next stage, it's the next business, it's the next XYZ, fill in the blank. Um, and you know, as we all know, the essence of life is growth, and you only grow when you put yourself through these challenges and through adversity and through these really uncomfortable things sometimes. And then you make it through and you're like, damn, we got this. What's next? You know, the buffalo in you, I'm sure. It's like, that's me. Yeah.

Perseverance and resilience is the least that I have issues with. It's the other stuff. It's the, mine's more of the slowing down part. And that's where you and I, we've discussed where You need to just go outside. You need to just ground. You need to just do breathwork, even if it's only for, like you said, 10 minutes. Like you were talking about going for a walk for just 10 minutes. That's also the same thing that we talk about. Like if you could just get outside before you start your, your quote unquote day for 10 minutes, whether or not the sun is up or not, like just going outside really helps me be more present. And that's something that I don't nearly do enough that I have to try to force myself to do more. Um, my sleep schedules and nights to days kind of doesn't help, but when I'm on a schedule more, that's it. I could definitely feel a difference with that.

Absolutely. And I think that's why you guys make such a beautiful, um, beautiful couple.

Thank you.

It's because you've got, you know, you balance each other out.

Yes.

When it comes to that. To obviously bring this like this badass but feminine and soft and, you know, I mean fierce when she needs to be, but she can definitely help you slow down too. And it's, and then you're the opposite. Chris is the same for me. He is bringing out the buffalo in me sometimes where he is like, okay, you said you're gonna do this, this and that. Here's, you know, are you gonna do this in the next 3 hours? And I was like, Sure. Normally this would've taken me 3 days, but you know, this is inspiring. You're inspiring me. Let's do it in 3 hours instead.

I'm looking in the mirror at you. I know when I'm looking at you, I'm seeing myself in the mirror. That's why literally what I think when we had the conversation where I'm like, no, you're my soul sister for sure. God sent you to me for a reason. We're like so the same. We think a lot alike. We value a lot of the same things, and we both have special, like, superpowers to share with the world. And like, putting us together is just like a force to be reckoned with.

So good. I love you so much. I love you too. I honestly was like, we met up like salt and sugar.

No, seriously, I feel like it was like almost an instant connection. Yeah, fully believe in, uh, what is it, uh God, I'm wanting to get into like physics here, but also I didn't pay attention in school, so go me.

Uh, my physics teacher was high, so that was my history teacher.

Jeez.

No, but I agree, basically the magnetic— yeah, the magnetic and the like, just the gravitational pull between us.

Like, we were brought together.

I felt that.

So since you guys are talking about that, how about we talk about these, this Kappa group that Carly, you guys started that's within the Final Percent that you guys just came back from and how much that is so necessary and needed for women out there that are maybe struggling or they're just at a high point too and they wanna be pushed even further. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, like the, the community in general, the Final Percent, it's insane. Like, there's nothing quite like it. I've never had a community like that before. The Kappa women are just— oof, it just gives me goosebumps when I think about it.

Next level.

It's like, you know, we're talking about energy and connection and what I felt with you guys, what I felt with, you know, Greg and Kayla. But now we get to have like 20+ women And then their partners, you know, the husbands and the boyfriends, and the men have their own as well. And it's just so crucial to have a good experience with women. I was very much in my masculine growing up, and I, I feel like I didn't have a lot of great female friendships. And I, you know, that probably stems from childhood, because everything stems from childhood. Um, you know, your relationship with your mom, your relationship with your dad, or you know, being bullied, whatever, you know, everybody's story is different. But having that as an adult and being able to lean into that community and the shared experiences too. I mean, there, I received some pretty rough news last week and, and Chris is like, okay, who can we talk to? Do you need to talk to Greg? Do you need to talk to some of the women? How can I best support you? How can I best show up? For you. And I was like, I'm like, no, no, I don't need to talk to anybody. It's fine. I just need to process this. It'll be fine in like 24 hours. Like, my entire childhood just came crashing down. And I was like, Carly, you're probably not going to process this in the next 24 hours. He reminded me, he's like, you have this group of incredible women who have also been through hell and back, who have, you know, they have, you know, different perspectives, and they come from all different walks of life, and you all come together and you can all support each other, you can all love in each other, you can all hold each other accountable and be there for one another without judgment. And I'm like, damn, I've never had that before. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, so yeah, it's, it's beautiful. And Bri, like you said, when you come together with other humans that have, you know, you're vibrating at a very similar frequency, it just amplifies and it supercharges everything. So it's so exciting. So exciting. Yeah. What's your experience been with it?

No, I think it's like I've said before, when I going into it, I already felt a boost of confidence just because of all the work that I let— that led up to it leaving. I felt even more confident and I felt more empowered because I felt like I was literally pulling like that high frequency from all the other women that we have in our community because of just, uh, their— I don't even know if you wanna say like aura. Does that, does that sound— I don't know if that makes sense.

No, it is.

But it does. It's, it's just a feeling that you get in the room, like legitimately I could feel the vibrations in my body and it kind of really got me to thinking and realizing like how much and how important it is for women to need other women and men to need other men, which is why we have Gamma Group too. So being able to have a community of women where there's literally zero judgment, we come wholeheartedly and we support each other wholeheartedly. Just gives me a little bit more faith in humanity, to be honest. Because like, you know, there's some people out there that just feel like the women that feel like they got to be mean girls or that they can't support other women because they think it's going to tear them down, when really it does the exact opposite. You supporting other women helps boost you up and helps boost other women around you. So why not support each other? We're stronger together.

It's like that.

Yeah, well, and there— and the thing is, like, yeah, we're all very like-minded, which is why we were meant to be in the same room together. But we're also so different in a number of ways. But the way that we're able to, like, collectively be in the same room and be who we are without being told, like, that's not right, you know, or what have you— like, we're allowed to be ourselves. We're allowed to have our own beliefs, our own opinions, but we all have the common mindset of wanting to support each other and wanting to grow as individuals.

133%. Absolutely. And that's what's so important is, you know, having women with different perspectives and, you know, from different walks of life all come together and you're still able to be yourself. And I mean, that's one way to learn new things, new perspectives, new life lessons through other women, but you're still able to be yourself. And, you know, for the, the people, whether it's men or women out there that are super judgy or, you know, try to tear you down, that's a reflection of them, if not of you. So it's, it's like you project a lot of— and I noticed that with myself too sometimes. Yeah, I noticed myself judging something that I see And I immediately have to stop myself. I'm like, why?

Same.

And then I look inwards. Like, we're not perfect.

So good.

Judgment is, is gonna happen. You know, being, you know, a brat sometimes is going to happen. Or as long as you, you take that thought and you dig deeper within yourself and you get to the root cause of why you thought that or felt that. It just, it transforms the way that you like your outlook on life in general. So yeah, I completely agree.

Well, being aware of it, right? Of our awareness. Cause I think as humans, it's our like natural thing is to be judgmental. And then we, and we automatically wanna go to the worst thing and it's like, well, why not think what's the best thing?

Yeah.

What's the best thing? What's the best case scenario?

What?

What's the best thing that can happen? You know what I mean?

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, I love that. And yeah, the candle analogy keeps coming up. It's like a candle loses nothing by letting other candles— nope, lighting up other— you know what I'm trying to say. Yes, like you're just spreading the light. Be a lighthouse. Oh yes, yes. And it's a work in progress where nobody's perfect.

Always.

We just—

it'll—

it all comes down to awareness. And you don't have to overthink things and overanalyze every single thought and emotion. Like, most emotions don't need an action. You just kind of have to sit with it, let it pass through you so it doesn't stay stuck in your body, and then you just move on. And then if there's a thought that's, you know, important or a judgment or whatever it is that you're not so happy with, and you're like, okay, let's dig deeper into this one. But yeah, just continue to grow, continue to learn. And that's just the— that's the beauty of life. And the beauty of life is also being able to do it with people like you guys. So, well, thank you.

We appreciate that. On that note, if you can help out our listeners where the statistics show that the majority of our thoughts every single day are negative, and the majority of our thoughts are the same thought as the day before. So what tools and tactics have you used that have worked for you, or that you like to pass on to your Kappa girls to help them when that negative thought does creep into their mind? And let's say we, we've become better aware, but how do we now combat that or how do, what, what are some good tactics or tools for that?

Oh man. Yeah, that's, that's a good one. I feel like most of the tools that we've talked about kind of compress into, into one practice. Yeah. I guess, I mean, and I guess it goes back to that annoying roommate, right? It's, it's a conscious choice that you have to make when you wake up in the morning. If you wake up and you do the same thing, you have the same thoughts. And Dr. Joe Dispenza, you know, talks about this a lot. You're going to end up with the same results. You're going to end up with the same life. If you're happy with that life, if you're happy being, you know, mediocre or average or negative, carry on. Yeah, but sometimes you have to fight bad thoughts like your life depends on it because it does depend on it, right? So having that awareness, catching yourself, it's like, hey, that was a really shitty thought. Or, you know, the annoying roommate, it's like, why are you being so negative? Why are you talking down to me? Which is you to yourself, really.

Yeah, it's true.

Getting rid of that roommate, evicting them, has been huge.

That's so good.

And the awareness, I think, comes from practices like meditation and breathwork and going for a walk with no music, no podcasts, no— you know, even by yourself if you can, or with your dog, or even with your kids. It's you know, you do whatever you have to do, but just sitting with— just reconnecting to yourself, like, again, who you are at your core, like your soul, your, your consciousness, whatever you want to call it. I think that's where it all, it all starts. So that's it.

Yeah. So we've—

anything to ask?

Yeah, no, we've talked, we've talked about this and we've gone back and forth about it. Is what— do we have to have a morning routine then? Do we have to have this evening routine then so that way we can start our day or end our day on the right foot so those negative thoughts and stuff don't creep into our mind?

I mean, if you can. I like the idea of a morning routine, and most mornings I do have a routine.

Okay.

But I also have to have grace on the days that I don't because life gets in the way. Again, it like, life isn't perfect and stressing yourself over not being perfect or not having the perfect morning routine or the perfect night routine. That's why I like to, you know, do the grounding, getting sunlight in my eyes and the breathwork in 10 minutes in the morning when I can. Yeah, because it's, it's easy to do. Like, it doesn't have to be a 3-hour ritual, right? Same with, with the evening. We have lives, right? We have kids, we have families, we have careers, we have businesses, whatever. And even in the Evening, just watching the sunset when I can, you know, it, it helps me sleep better. It just, it's amazing for, for your mood. It, it, I don't know, it just, it feels good, right? It's like you feel like you're, you're connected to what matters. But yeah, I guess having a morning routine and an evening routine when, when you can and whatever works for you guys, like everybody's routine is gonna be different, but that's helped me massively kind of stay on track and I, I know when I have those little wins, you know, as soon as the day starts, I'm like, yes, I've had water. Yes, I've moved my body. Yes, sunlight. Yes, grounding. Yes, tiny little wins that just set the mood for the day. And I know, I'm like, everything's gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be good. And it, it trains your mind to have those positive thoughts.

That's good right there.

And keeping your promises to yourself. If you say you're gonna wake up at a certain time and then you hit the snooze button, you're telling yourself that you're not trustworthy. You're telling yourself that you don't keep, um, your promises to yourself. And I think we talked about this at the, the Kappa retreat. You're the person that you spend the most time with. Make sure that you don't lose respect for yourself. So keeping that in the back of your mind has helped me massively.

Yeah, I just need to have you in my head when I wake up in the morning and did not hit my snooze because I literally, I'm like, okay, the alarm went off, get your fucking ass out of bed.

I know, it's so hard.

I feel like it's every, not every morning because I'm trying to shift, I'm trying to shift my, my thought behind it. I'm like, no, we actually like mornings because once we're up and once we're moving, we feel good and we feel more accomplished and That's for me, like, with the kids. Like, wake— I have to wake up before them so I can have a little bit of that me time, whether that be sitting at the kitchen table with my cup of coffee in complete silence and do absolutely nothing for a little bit just so I can have that quiet before I, like, start my day. But I— the grounding part, I need to start doing that again. I haven't done that in a minute. Um, usually I end up— if any grounding that does happen, it doesn't happen first thing in the morning lately. It's in the middle of the day when I'm outside playing with the kids. And so I'm like, okay, cool, perfect opportunity. I'll do a sandbag workout or a bodyweight workout and I'll go do it barefoot in the yard. So now I get to play with my kids and get a workout in. And I'm like, cool, perfect, perfect.

That's perfect. And again, it doesn't have to be this crazy sacred ritual, you know, like with candles and music and—

oh dude, no, that's too— for me, I'm sorry, that, that's unrealistic for a mom Or unrealistic for anybody who's running, you know, a business, you know, on for as an entrepreneur. But it's like, okay, that 3-hour ritual thing might be perfect if you are single and have no other responsibilities but going to work.

Yeah. Or you live in like Costa Rica in a jungle and all you do is, you know, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Do ayahuasca from morning to—

if that's something that works for you, but you have to wake up at 4 in the morning to get those 3 hours in for that morning ritual. Go you, more power to you.

Exactly. Not me. Not me either. Like, good. Sorry. And that reminds me, uh, the Pivot Year, which we got at the Kappa retreat. This has been amazing. Just to add, um, another little thing, like you mentioned journaling.

Yes.

These are such short, um, you've got like 365 days. Yeah. Short paragraphs, short prompts.. And you know, you write like a page or two and then you're kind of, you're like, okay, cool. I don't have to spend an hour journaling if I don't want to. Um, so just, just being efficient with your time and with the things that you choose to do, that's the only way you're going to stay consistent. So good for you for doing all the things like playing with the kids and the workout and play, you know, grounding.

So you found what worked for you. No, I tried, I tried to, I, I know I've definitely improved and gotten better. And that way I'm like, okay, how can I maximize my time and crunch a couple of things into like one thing? And that way I'm getting more done at once and not to, not to the capacity where I end up getting overwhelmed and I'm like, oh shit, I'm doing too much.

Yeah.

But like that for something like that, it's easy for me to do. I mean, there's even times where I can, I'll have one earbud in and I'll listen to an audiobook. While I'm working out, while I'm also still interacting with the kids and still, you know, obviously there's certain books where it's harder to do that. Um, like for example, I thought the, uh, Greenlights book, Matthew McConaughey, that one was actually a really good one and it was entertaining while I was doing the workout and while I was playing with like Jackson and Laney in the backyard too. So being able to listen to that and do all that at the same time, I'm like, okay, this is one that I can get away with. Deep Work, on the other hand, that one I need silence. That one I need silence and can't be doing anything else.

Not even laundry. No, 100%. Yeah. I'm like absolute silence. Yeah. That's good. Well, good stuff, guys.

Yeah. So let's finish up real quick with what you guys have going on for the rest of this year. Eternal Warriors has a ton of upcoming stuff and there's a big announcement that you guys just made and we would love for you guys to talk a little bit about that.

Yeah. Uh, yeah, I feel like we keep adding things onto the calendar. Um, so next is the enchantments, which apparently, you know, the permits for those, for the enchantments are really hard to get. So we've got that coming up. Then we have Mount—

so real quick, if you're in the Washington area and you want to go, you need to reach out to Eternal Warriors, Carly or Chris. Reach out to them. You're not going to be able to go to the enchantments with other groups that don't have these permits. So reach out to them if you're in the area. It's going to be amazing.

Yes. Oh yeah. Thanks for— I'm like, thank you.

Yes, you got me.

And don't worry, we will shoot all these links in all the notes and all the comments. So you'll be able to take a look at them.

Thank you. Yeah. I think we have a few spots left for that one. So yeah, reach out if you want to join. Um, we'll do some survival training, um, you know, personal protection, navigation. We'll do some breath work, cold plunges.

Could be amazing.

Nature stuff. Nature stuff. A lot of nature mindset stuff. Um, and then we've got Mount Rainier, so we're going to do, you know, crevasse rescue training, you know, teach you how to self-arrest. That's going to be, I think, a 4-day thing because we like to have 1 to 2 field days of training. So we're confident when we go to summit in case anybody falls through something and they need to get pulled out. Everybody's confident enough to do that. And of course, it's a perishable skill. So you keep training, right? And then we've got Tanzania again in August. And then we've got— oh, before then we've got Portugal. And then after Tanzania, we've got Greece. We saw— we, we're about to announce Greece. We haven't announced it yet, but once we do, which will be in the next couple days, just saying, that's where we wanted to go for our honeymoon before Italy.

We shifted to Italy.

Oh my gosh.

I mean, good choice.

I still want to go to Greece, so we're gonna have to—

so we're gonna have to— we're gonna have to chat, just saying.

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. We're gonna do Mount Olympus, and we're gonna explore ancient Greece, and then we're gonna go to the island. So we're gonna do all 3 in 1. Because why not?

Because yeah, might as well.

Yeah. When are you going to Greece?

Uh, last week of September.

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

Yeah, we'll announce it now. Last week of September.

There you go. Surprise if you, if you made it this long into the podcast.

Um, yeah, so we're gonna chat, we're gonna chat.

That is awesome. And then there's been Kilimanjaro before, there's Pikes Peak. There's so many things. So if you're trying to go on an adventure or you need to be reconnected with nature, or you need to get a kick in the butt to go do something, you got to reach out to them. I like kicking the butt. It's going to be awesome for any and all of those. So we're excited. We're definitely going to join you on one of, one or two of those for sure. Oh, for sure.

It's happening.

I'll just have to, I'll get the time off somehow.

You guys are the real deal. And I don't think anybody should go on any of these adventures without you.

I know.

No, I mean, if you guys like to get, you know, handcuffed and breaking out of that, and if you guys like to get, get thrown into the back of a car to get out of that and duct taped, I mean, there's so many different things.

I mean, again, no, they're, they're the reason now, like, I don't put on a pair of pants without putting at least 2 bobby pins in my pocket.

Yeah, yeah, you gotta do it.

I put them in my pocket and I put extras in my purse or my, my clutch. I have to— I'm like What are the chances?

We don't know, but we're prepared.

Yeah, we're prepared for sure. Yeah, we'll kick you in the butt and then we'll hug you. Or, you know, Anthony, we can kidnap you if you want for work, but we may have some people come after us if we do that, so I don't know how that's going to work out, but we'll make it happen regardless.

Do it while I'm off duty. Don't, don't do it while I'm working. That might not work out.

Fair enough.

I wouldn't like that.

Yeah, because, uh, there's there's an animal that's with me and he won't be happy. No, yeah. And then if you do it off duty, again, make sure he's locked up, which he is the majority of the time.

But I'll let him know. I'll let Thorn— I'll have a conversation with him. It's like, hey, this is gonna happen to Dad. It's gonna be okay.

Just be fine. He'll come back home.

Yeah, don't bite my face off.

He prefers wrists, but what treats?

Yeah, that's a good point.

He doesn't like treats. No, it's not gonna work. Yeah, I figured he likes toys and he likes people. Yeah, I mean, a steak would probably be nice. I mean, it's kind of like a person, I guess. Oh, okay. But yes, uh, Carly, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Um, if anybody's interested, again, needs to get a kick in the butt, wants to go on some crazy adventures and have a blast with some amazing people, You need to check out Eternal Warriors. Check out Chris and Carly. Um, they've got their YouTube channel. Um, they've got everything. So we'll put the links for everything in there, and we can't wait to interview Chris as well.

Oh my gosh, I love you guys so much, and I'm so proud of everything you're doing. You guys are killing it, and I'm so blessed to have you guys in my life. And of course Chris is too. So thank you. Yes, I love you.

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