The Power of Hard Work and Humility with Kane

All right, welcome back to the Infinite Gold Podcast. You've got Bree, myself, and the amazing Kane. Right now he's a busy man, he's driving all over the place, but we had to snag him for this podcast episode. So you're gonna see him, if you're watching the visual, you're gonna see him in his car because he was graciously enough to, uh, give us some of his time. So, Kane, thanks for being here. I appreciate it, buddy.

Yes, thank you, Kane.

So, Kane, we got born in sunny California, San Diego to be exact, moved out to the LA area when he was young. He dropped out of high school. So yes, we're talking to a high school dropout who made something of himself. Um, he left with his brother, took his brother in, and they had the nickname of the Sunset Kids because When they were younger, they just hustled. They obviously knew that, well, school wasn't in the picture for them, so you gotta work your tail off out there, especially during that time. So they worked hard. He came up through the ranks. He started off, you know, parking cars, cleaning bathrooms, doing all the dirty work that nobody wants to do, but it has to get done. And you learn a lot from doing the dirty work. From there, he became a bouncer at multiple venues. He's gonna go into detail on some of those venues, but you'll know them when you hear them. From there, uh, he became the guy that people looked up to. They're like, this guy knows what he's talking about, he knows what he's doing. And so people started reaching out to him like, hey, do you do stuff on the side from this, uh, this bouncing gig? And then he really got, uh, known for what he does is when, uh, Diane Ross, uh, reached out to him. Uh, you've got that. Then Dan Bilzerian reached out to him. I know everybody's going to know who that is. Uh, you had Stan Lee, From there, he's traveled all over the country, um, doing what he does best, and he does security for some top A-listers. Obviously, we're not going to be able to go into all of them. Would be nice, but unfortunately we can't. And then, uh, from there he realized, he's like, wow, I kind of know what I'm doing and talking about. Everyone keeps reaching out to me. So he started his security consulting company. So if there's anybody listening who is thinking about doing that, uh, Kane's the man to reach out to. From there, he's now the COO of multiple companies, and again, all started from pretty much nothing. So, Kane, we appreciate you being on, and, uh, we love you, brother.

I love you too, guys.

Awesome. So let's start, um, let's start from square one. So you're 17 years old, you're in high school, and you're like, this, this isn't working out, this isn't for me, and, um, hey brother, uh, let's get out of here. What, what, what possessed you to do that?

Long story short, I mean, a lot of long Yeah, I know we're on a crunch time. Um, I was going to a school in Venice, a continuation portion of Venice High School. And, um, we were like the kids that from all sorts of the, all over LA, they ended up at this particular school and we only had to go twice a week. So the first day was to get your work, do some work, and then they would, they wouldn't even let us smoke outside as long as we showed up so we could smoke cigarettes outside. You know, and, um, one day, you know, someone came in tripping and, um, went inside and checked a lot of people. All these guys are tough guys, I thought. And, and he came up to me and, you know, you know, the, the handicap ramps that go up to like the temporary buildings that get put in a lot of schools. I was like the bungalows over there.

Yep.

Yeah. I was smoking a cigarette and this guy walks up past me cause he didn't pay no mind to me. Walked in, checked these guys on the inside. And then comes out and tries to check me. And then we just squared up, you know, and, and then he pulled out this long skinny screwdriver. He tried to hit me. I ducked that bob. I went in for a double leg. He pulls out this long skinny screwdriver and it was like Matrix slow motion. I was like, whoa, you know? And I was like, shit, you know? But I, but I, but I couldn't run though, because like I was backed in my corner. Yeah, there was nowhere for me to go anyway. And because I didn't run, now he's looking at me like, oh shit, this guy's not scared of me. The truth is I was scared to death. You know what I mean? I just, I just couldn't run. And then he takes off. I'll be back. I'll be back. And then he took off. And then, uh, I get a call. Um, well, not I got a call. My mom got a call and the school said, hey, um, you know, he's not allowed to come back. You know, now the school, the, our, our area is getting threatened. With retaliation and all this. So like, you know, it was a big reality check for me, you know, with that. And then I— so I— now I'm dropped out, you know, I'm not going to school. Uh, my mom and I didn't have the best situation, and, um, so I just decided that I was going to look for a job. Okay. So I got lucky and, and got a job in a parking lot, uh, right outside of a building that Johnny Depp just bought a club in. I didn't know any of this, obviously. Yeah. And, um, I started parking cars, and then Johnny Depp bought this spot, and all of a sudden this became like the place where the coolest of the cool people— the small club, so only the coolest of the coolest could go in at that time. There was no bottle service back then, you know. But, but my, my brother, you know, now you can buy your way in. If you got money, you could be cool, you know. Oh yeah, it was different back then. There was no there was no bribing your way in in those days. Uh, my brother wanted me to take him in, so he was 15 and I had, I had already worked enough and I would saved up and had a spot with a roommate and I was like, all right, you can come, you know, and he's like, I don't want to go to school either. I said, all right, you got to work. So we put it, we put him to work cleaning, cleaning the Viper room and helping me park cars. But the kid was so brilliant. By like 16 and a half, he created his own cleaning company, licensed, bonded, insured, Shine Time Cleaners. He's like, I need a slogan. I was like, I'll come up with the slogan. I came up with the slogan, we clean the corners the others cut. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And then, then he, then he crushed it. He crushed it. He made so much money as a kid and ran it for I don't know how many years. A lot though. That's how we got into the game together, you know, and started our journey together. And then we just, We hustled, we busted our ass, like you said, like we scrubbed toilets, cleaned floors, washed dishes, you know, like there was nothing that we didn't say no to. And then in those days, you know, I would get invited to A-list clubs and get put on the list under one of my, like an alias, no ID required, you know, and I would go with one of my OGs and we'd go, I'd go up to the list man and be like, You know, like, get out of here, you know, because I was a kid, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, I was like barely 18, maybe 18, you know, like 18 and a half maybe. That's funny. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm on the list, dog. I'm on the list, you know? And then he's like, no. I'm like, no, look, it's under plus one even, you know? And then it says also, it should say no ID required, you know what I mean? He'd be like, yep. Ah, fuck, get in there, you know? And I, and I, and I did that. I, I did that for a little while and I'm You know, at that time I was around all the coolest celebrities, all the coolest models, all the coolest, you know, heiress or heirs to this family and that family and rock stars, like real rock stars. Like back then, a lot of rock stars, you know, lots of stuff, you know. And I remember I was, I was in there and I was like, one time it just, something hit me and I'm looking around and I'm like, dude, why am I in here? I was like, I'm not cool. You know, I'm looking like, I'm like, that guy's cool over there. You got so-and-so over there, you know, like, why am I here? And I was having this whole conversation with them myself. And I was like, and it hit me. I'm not cool. I'm here because of how hard I've worked. I'm here because I did all the jobs that nobody wanted to do. And I earned the respect of everybody that ran Hollywood at that time. And rest in peace to a lot of those people. But like, and then I literally, I stood up, walked out. I never went out again like that, you know, and then I just continued to grind even more. And then forward a little bit, um, Johnny Depp had started this, um, night called Metal Shop, which turned into Metal School, which turned into Steel Panther. And, uh, when it first started off as Metal Shop, we were set— my brother and I, we would set everything up for it. That was one of our jobs, all this stuff, you know. And, uh, um, back then, um, Ozzy Osbourne was shooting his reality TV show with his home and family and everything up the street from us, and he was next door shopping at this little coffee shop. Cricket shop, whatever. And we heard that he was over there. So he's like, oh, you got to go over there and ask him if he would come and announce what we're doing tonight. That would be so cool. So I run over there and he's gone. He's already walking up Sunset Boulevard towards what we call the 9000 building right across the street from the Roxy. But he hadn't crossed the street yet. It's Clark Street. He was at the stoplight waiting for a signal to walk. And I make it to him and I said, hey, sir, you know, I work for, I work for Johnny Depp over at the Viper Room. It just started this night. It's an '80s night. Everybody thinks it would be so cool if you could, you know, come participate and announce this new cover band that we're doing and stuff. And he's like, you know, Sharon likes to go out. And he paused for a second. And I'm looking at him like, And he goes, I get paid to go out. And like, but if you could see it, like, I'm obviously sitting down. If I was standing up, I would show you. He has like a shuffle walk. You know what I mean? And then like, the light turned green. He turned away from me, didn't say goodbye, and literally shuffled across the street. You know what I mean? And I was like, and I was like, how cool was that? You know what I mean? Like, wow. And then in my head, in my head, that was another epiphany. I'm like, I'm never gonna go out unless I get paid now. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, like, and that changed, that changed my perception of a lot right there too. I mean, like, there was so many signs, you know, but that's it.

I love it.

That's cool. The impersonation, that was too good. The voice change. I love that. Oh my God.

Yeah. It was real though, it was real.

So you kind of touched on it, um, the epiphanies that you had. How did working those jobs that nobody wanted to do, how did that change your mental, um, grasp on life in general and just who you became today?

You know, life was hard, you know, for me and my brother. You know, we went through a lot. You know, and, um, I, I, you know, one of my favorite jobs ever was, was cleaning nightclubs, you know, because I would start off with great thrash stuff all over the floor, on the table, nobody in there, you know, like, and, and so you had to get all the stuff off the tables, out of the booths, put it on the floor, and like, you know, You know, dump all trash cans came first, dump all the trash cans. But I used to love the stages of it because it would, it would, um, the first step was sweeping. So then I became mindful of, oh my, sweeping, you know what I mean? And, and, and then I would get to visually see, uh, what I did, as small as that was. They were little wins. You know, and so like, so like, you know, I'd sweep everything up first. And now I was like, wow, look at this spot. And now it's like the floor is all dirty, all the stuff that spilled, glass that was broken that's glued into the alcohol that sat there with the mixed drink and stuff. And like, and then the next step was mopping, you know, and, and that was another win because I forgot to be mindful. Okay, I can do How many ways like this? I got to flip it, you know, then, you know what I mean? And then how many times can I use one bucket, you know, per section before I'm spreading dirt all over the rest of the floor? You know, like, like there was so much that went into it, just the cleaning. And then after you did that, then you had to do a final mop. And that was side to side, less buckets to go through. Yeah. Switch on one side, you know, and then And then the last step was waxing it. And waxing it, you had to be very methodical and slow and precise and everything. And then all of a sudden, now it pops. And the Viper Room back in those days was all black with these little green diamonds in between, like, I don't know, maybe there'd be like 8 squares and one little green diamond in it, you know. And then back in those days, there was all the diamonds were the same way. Except for one diamond was off like a square. And then that's where Johnny Depp signed his signature underneath there, you know.

But that's cool.

I really enjoyed cleaning a lot. Cleaning was fun. And, you know, bathrooms were hard, you know what I mean? Especially the women's bathroom, you know what I mean? Like, that was— I mean, savages. Yeah. So, so savage. I'd be like, don't let the toilet be clogged. It doesn't stop. Doesn't stop and be like, oh my God. Like, but, but I, you know, like it, it, that gave me a lot of self-confidence as crazy as that sounds, you know, and I enjoyed it. And because I enjoyed it, people would look at me like, wow, he ain't tripping. He ain't over there frustrated. I'm over there, you know, like there was no cell phone to distract you and no headphones to listen to music with unless you had some Walkman, you know, and this is a long time, 49 years old. You know what I mean? Like, you know, so you really had to be Zen. And I didn't even know what Zen was then, but I was on the journey of becoming something better than where I came from because I had to create a lot of different versions of myself. And that was the beginning, beginning of me shedding everything that I thought I was that was holding me back, that there was no future and I would have been dead or locked up if I stayed in that mindset.

So yeah, so that's great to— no, that's great because like you, you really fully took in those jobs and embraced that those were the foundation of what, you know, essentially built you up to where you are and what's gotten you to today. And those, that, that's important. A lot of people like to discredit. Some of their, like, parts of their journey when it's the foundational stuff, because they're like, no, it's no big deal, when really it's, it's a huge deal. You can't make it without a solid foundation, right?

And, and God put me in a place to where I had to clean foundations, you know, and I did a lot of, a lot of work on myself while I was doing it. I also understood the power that was behind cleaning. Anything, as you're cleaning exterior, you're cleaning interior.

So good. Also, that grit and grind that you had then is what led basically to everything after that. I mean, let's be honest, like, if you weren't so dedicated to your craft, dedicated to your mental stability, and, you know, working so hard, you probably never would've became the bouncer that you became, which never would've gotten the bodyguard stuff, which never would've gotten the security consulting. So it's like Brees mentioned, that foundation was huge. And if you don't mind, how did that now trans— translate into becoming that bouncer, moving up to that next step in the journey of Cain?

Well, parking cars in those days off the Sunset Strip was It was a lot because you figured you have people from all over the country, all over the city, tough neighborhoods, and a lot of tough humans would go to these crazy shows at the Whiskey, the Roxy, go hang at the Rainbow, you know, and all these other clubs, you know, and they all had to park. You know, some of them would come in drunk and they would leave more drunk, you know, and I was always— I'm a little dude. You know, 5'8". I know it was 100 and— hey, shit, back then I was probably 167 pounds, you know what I mean?

You and I, brother, I think I was 5'7" and 145 pounds when I was trying to play ice hockey, man. It was small.

That's on a whole nother level right there. I mean, you guys are gritting and grinding with that.

It's a good time.

Yeah, but so there was a lot of violence. You know, a lot of violence and a lot, you know, I saw Sunset Boulevard get shut down a gang of times. You know, my parking lot would turn into a fight fest sometimes, you know, 50, 60, 70, 80, 150 people like just, just getting down. You can't, you don't even know what to do. Back then I didn't know what to do. Now, now I know what to do. Yeah. I got a lot of stories with that, you know, because I got to do that. I got to also witness that on the other level of it where I actually had the ability to understand what's going on and execute on what needed. But that's a whole nother story. But with this one, you know, I developed a reputation on the Sunset Strip. Um, that I was, I developed a reputation that I was good at defending myself and protecting myself and protecting the people that were around me. You know, you know, because something you're not scared, you just, you just handle it, you know? Correct. Yeah. A lot of effort. I had a lot of opportunities to handle it and I did. And Johnny Depp's head of security was, was Big Ed Shaw, my mentor to this day, my best friend. My God, he just needs a cornerstone in my life for like 34, 35 years. That's awesome. Who I am without him even to today. But, um, he had come up to me and he was like, you know, we all know you can fight. We all know you can use your hands, you know. And, uh, he's like, but I'm now I'm going to show you how to use your head. Yes. And that's exactly what he did. I mean, he, you know, he gave me so much game and knowledge and allowed me to experience it and tested me and put me in so many tough situations to see how I would handle myself. And then would pull me to the side and ask me how I thought I did and go over the things that I could have done better. And, you know, and then he put me at the sunset door. And that was the door that a lot— all the celebrities came in through the sunset side. Most of the GP, well, the cool GP, but then not the A-list celebrities were going through the front door unless they wanted to be seen. Back then, there was only two or one main paparazzi. I think he had three guys, Woody. Woody was the OG back then. He is the OG of all pop runs. He's— rest in peace, Woody. But like, um, you know, I wouldn't— Big Ed gave me my shot, so I ran that back door, you know, and got to meet so many good— he saw so many cool shows, and I had no idea of the rock and roll royalty that I was around. I had no idea. I was a kid listening to gang bang music and thinking I was a gangster and all this tough shit, you know what I mean? And then here I am there's Johnny Cash performing right there on the stage.

That's so cool.

Incredible. And like, looking back at that, I'm like, wow, you know? And Tom Petty, I mean, I can go on and on. That'd be so fun.

You know?

Yeah. Yeah, you know? They had this group called, well, not group, band called Neurotic Boy Outsiders, which was Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols, John Taylor from Duran Duran, Fleet from Red Hot Chili Peppers.

That's back when music was good.

Yeah, it was different, but they used to have crazy mashups like that all the time of different guys that would be there. You know, Adam from Counting Crows was always there. You know, there's so many people that were just there. You jump behind the bar, pour a drink. Christina Applegate behind the bar pouring drinks. I mean, like so many, so many, so many people. It's so crazy to think how young I was and not even know what I was around, you know. But I appreciated being around it, not even knowing what I was around. But Big Ed Shaw gave me, gave me my first shot, you know. I'll never forget that.

That's awesome.

So I love that. Again, it's funny that I have a feeling that a lot of this is going to tie to mental acuity and mental strength and grit. And then from there, you're, you're this bouncer, and we talked prior to this call, but what was that number of how many people— and again, you're gonna top probably anybody who listens to this— how many people you think you've patted down in your lifetime so far?

A minimum of 500,000 people, and that, and that's lowball. Like, I ain't one of those guys that's like, oh, 500,000 and it's probably down here. No, it's probably more than that because if you're in and out, in and out, oh yeah, all this other shit, you know. But I would realistically say 500,000 people. I found everything you could ever imagine. You know, I mean, you find a gangster coming in, you get a lot of guys. We ran a lot of clubs with like real gangsters coming in. Who's coming in, you know, they killed somebody, you know what I mean? They just ain't, you know, they got real body counts. I don't know what these kids call body counts. But like, yeah, but, uh, but you know, you get these guys turn around back to me, come down, oh, Doc, what are you doing? You know, like, like, what are you talking about? I'm like, bro, in the ear, no one can hear me talking to him. You know, I'm like, hey, You gotta go put that shit back in your car. Put that shit back in your car. Come back up, I'll pat you down and I'll get you in. Oh, you ain't even tripping? Nah, I ain't tripping. I'm not here to trip, dog. You know what I mean? Now I got an ally with the gun. He ain't gonna do nothing to any of us. And a matter of fact, if I tell this to cool out, he's cool.

He is, because you already had his back.

You know, you got to be a diplomat. I learned to be a diplomat.

So I love that. And that was gonna be my follow-up question is, 'cause a lot of people know I'm a first responder in law enforcement. One of the things that we practice regularly is verbal judo. That's what we call it. How much of that did you learn just from that backdoor, especially with the story you just provided?

Like how important—

People skills. The people skills. How important is that even in your day-to-day stuff today?

Well, I mean, just in the bounce, in the bounce seat, see, there's bouncers, but then at a certain point you got to evolve to be a cooler, you know? So, so that's, that's the level of it. So eventually that, and the mental judo that you're speaking of, this bouncer can't do that. Bouncer's there to regulate and bounce people out, you know? So, but, but a cooler, well, cooler cools shit out, you know? So, you know, so I got really good at this. You know, so, you know, when people couldn't figure shit out, when people were going too hard and tough, chest out too much, too much to drink, you know, on whatever drug they're on and ready to take on the world, I would get called, hey, get Kane over here, you know. And then, yeah, and then so I would be up there and, you know, yeah, right. And you got 200, 300 people in line still trying to get in. This dude posturing up. And, you know, I always, I learned to approach these situations with grace because you don't know what other people are journeying in their own self, what happens to the exterior, these other contributing factors that are contributing to the things that they're doing. You know, maybe someone that they love that's close, someone just passed away. You know, maybe they just lost their house. You know, maybe their lady just left them. Maybe this, there's so many, maybe they lost their job. You know, and like without like consciously thinking about that, this becomes part of how you react to it. You know what I mean? So, so I would run into these situations and I would gauge what's going on and go, hey, how you doing, dog? You know, fuck you. What you want? You know, like, hey, check it out. I'm just going to talk to you. I ain't trying to talk to anyone else. And I always would be calm, you know, naturally. I'm very calm in my life. You know, I'm a rock that makes the rapids. You know what I mean? I ain't trying to make no rapids. You know what I mean? So. You know, I would go up to these humans and I'd be like, hey, check it out, I'm gonna talk to you. You know, what are you talking about, dog? I'm gonna fume up, I'm gonna fume up, I'm gonna do this. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, no one's talking like that right now, bro. You know, I want to go back in there, dude, whatever it was, you know, like, I'd be like, hey, check it out, you're not gonna come back in tonight. What? Like, no, I'm serious, like, you're not coming back in tonight, but I'm gonna give you a few options here. And only he can hear me. You know, I'm not talking, you know, cause you get these guys, they use the person they're talking to as a microphone, you know what I mean? So like, and there is times that you need to do that, but you got to differentiate if I'm talking to you, but I really want to talk to the 70 people around me or the 15 people that can hear me. Well, then I'm going to speak up to you so they can hear me. I'm going to use you an example, but a lot of cases it's not the case, but you got to be able to differentiate when to connect. And that's, that's always the first goal is to connect and I get these guys and You know, I'd be like, all right, check it out, bro. If you leave right now, you know, you're going to be able to walk away with your pride, your dignity, dignity. And, uh, I'll invite you back. You come back, I'll take care of you and your boy, take care of you and your girl. I'll make you look good. But just, you just got to walk away on your own. And sometimes they would do that. Sometimes they would, you know, and then they come back and apologize and, you know, thank me. And, you know, all of a sudden there could be some sort of diplomatic situation to help them in their life. I listen to them because a lot of time I want to listen to people, you know? And but sometimes it doesn't go that way, you know what I mean? And then they're like, oh, God, I'm out. And now they're yelling at me and I'm like, look, bro, I'm going to tell you straight up, like, like, you probably a tough guy in your life. Yeah, I'm a tough guy. You're like, good. All right, good. I'm not a tough guy. Okay. You could probably tell me how many people you put, put in your knocked out, put to sleep, whatever, right? Oh yeah. I'm like, okay, well, I don't have a number for that. You know what I mean? You know, but what I can tell you is I don't want you to be number 3. And they're like, what do you mean number 3? What is that? I'm like, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you. You're a big dude. You're strong. Yeah. I'm a little scared of you. You know what I mean? And the last 2 dudes that I was scared of. They're bigger than me. They were stronger than me. Let's just say when I put them to sleep, I went too hard, too long, and then I had to revive these dudes and bring them back to life, you know? And I don't want to experience that for the third time because I get scared to death. I'm thinking I killed this guy. Now, hey, tell my security to call 911. We got to get, you know, something here. I'm thinking all these things now, praying, God, please don't let this guy die. Like, I don't want that. I don't want you to be number 3, bro. And I'm not even kidding, you know? And, um, and cause I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna put you to sleep and, and your best case scenario is that I'm putting you to sleep and I'm going to drag you somewhere the fuck else where we're not even here right now. You're going to wake up disoriented and confused, wondering what's happening, where you woke up and why you're in the parking lot now, leaned up against this building in the alleyway. You're going to be like, whoa, but I'll have a bottle of water for you. I'll be sitting right next to you. And then we can talk about what happened. You know, so, you know, I mean, like, it can go a lot of ways. That's so funny. Then sometimes on that point, they're like looking at this me like, like, is he serious? Like, yeah, I am. I'm actually serious. You know what I mean? Like, you know, and sometimes they're like, all right, you know, I'm tripping, you know, and then they go and then sometimes they don't and then they throw a punch and duck under and next thing you know, they're asleep and I'm dragging them to the alley, giving them a bottle of water. Yeah.

I mean, you didn't lie to him.

No, I didn't lie.

You warned him.

I mean, yeah, I did. A gentle warning.

A gentle, yeah. I was gonna say you gave him a gentle warning.

He didn't end up being number 3, that particular guy, you know, so.

That's hilarious. I feel like you just have a way of communicating with people to, you know, especially with that profession, how to de-escalate situations and I could just tell, uh, because you talk about this low voice when you're whispering to the guy in their ear, like you literally hear nothing. It's like a magical, like, it just like gets the point across where like, okay, this guy's serious, I better listen to him. Or they take the hard route and then you gotta put them to sleep and take them to an alley.

That's fun. There is compassion. I have the bottle.

That's what I was saying. You had, you were thinking about him. You're thinking about that person.

At the end of the day, I love, I love people. You know what I mean? Like we're all humans, you know? Yeah. And yeah, you know, I finally come to my own self-realization that I'm human and that's okay to make mistakes. This is like another epiphany, you know?

So, yeah. Love it. And then from there, obviously you made yourself known of being able to handle business when you need to, but also just communicating with people. I mean, During that time, there's probably more people getting into fights than not getting into fights, and you are probably on the opposite side. You probably got into less fights because of the way you spoke to people, the way you had empathy for them, you know, you, you talked the way you talked. And that's where some high-level people started calling you saying, hey, looks like you know what you're doing. And it sounds like Diana Ross was the biggest person that gave you that next step. After that. Uh, tell us about that and kind of how that led you down the path, um, what's wrapped around your neck.

Well, um, somebody I ran an A-list club for, uh, Michael Sutton, you know, good guy. Um, he's really close to the Ross family. He reached out to me and said, hey, I have, uh, something, uh, Miss Ross's son Evan is going to be doing a movie in Detroit, and they're looking for someone that can be able to take care of them for the next 5 weeks. And if this person does a good job, it could pan out to bigger things. And so I said, done, you know. And I've never been to Detroit at that time. I had no idea what I was really getting into. And at that time, I couldn't even carry concealed, you know. And I So I went with my suits that I had, my ducks lined up, and I had a flashlight. Wow. You know, so my flashlight was it. I learned that flashlight, you know, out of traveling as a bodyguard, as many times as I've been armed in a lot of different situations and had pepper spray and flashlight, you always need a flashlight for so many things. You know, that's like the one tool that I think I've used time and time again. But, um, so I saw, they flew me out there. I went out there and, you know, I had a really good experience, you know, I learned so much and there was no, this was before smartphones really, you know what I mean? Like there was no, like, there was no, like, you know, maps and all this shit, you know, Verizon was playing with this thing where you could pay like I don't even know, $10 a month to like have like this thing and like, and like, but like, so I'm literally, I got a notepad, a pen, sitting shotgun. Okay. Looking, okay. There's a hotel where this is, this hotel right here. There's a McDonald's across the street right there on the street. And I literally was making maps as we were going from one spot to another spot, another spot to another spot, you know, and, and so I familiarized myself with everything and what they didn't know when I would go back to the hotel. I'd be up for an hour, like going over everything and figuring back. Cause I knew now I knew where we were going to be and like looking up how to do that. You know, there was then going to these nightclubs in, in, uh, in Detroit, that was something different too. You know, it was cause in LA, you know, I, I established a, um, uh, you know, a positive reputation amongst a lot of, a lot of bouncers and coolers and doormen and directors of security and whatever, you know, and. Even if a lot of guys didn't know me, a lot of guys knew of Kane because I put on one of their OGs. I was best friends with one of their big uncles or something, you know. And, and, but going to a new city where I didn't know anybody, it really heightened my senses and, and helped me really define myself, of my mission even more, because now I had to go into a club and like meet people, connect with people. Boom. You know what I mean? And here I got, you know, maybe 16, 18 guys in this, in this club. And I'm with these, these people protecting them, you know, with a flashlight, you know what I mean? And my, and my, and my awareness, you know what I mean? I was good, you know, like, and so I learned to connect with all these different other alphas. And I had, I would have, I learned to make whatever team I was around, an extension of myself. So we became a team. They wanted to be part of what I was rolling with. They wanted to rock with what I was rolling, you know what I mean? So, you know, that Detroit experience taught me that. And then, then I was like, well, I don't care where I go. And then a fire marshal in Hollywood taught me this. This is what really set me when I started traveling. He's like, hey, you know, I really want you to walk in because I had to do this emergency, my first spot of doing an emergency evacuation, uh, plans, procedures, and all these things. And then I, and I was picking the brain of this fire marshal who was really cool. And he's like, hey, all the lights are off. It's black. You can't see. What do you do? How do you get out? Every time I will walk into a spot, that's good. I'll walk into it and I would visualize, okay, lights are off. What am I doing from here? Where's a safe zone to get to if I can't get anywhere else? You know what I mean? What's, what's going to be my, my primary way out, you know? And sometimes as a bodyguard, you know, or safety advisor or security consultant, when you're on these missions, you get a chance and an opportunity ideally to go ahead and do a walkthrough, meet and greet, talk to the bosses, the owners, the operation directors and these things. And then you have a plan of attack of where you're getting dropped off at, where you're going to get picked up at, where you're sitting and where the bathrooms are and where this is and that is and all these things. But sometimes, sometimes you roll into that spot, the vibe's not right. No one likes it. They're like, oh, this, we're out of here. Boom. Now you're going to another spot because someone else just hit them and said, hey, you got to come over here. And it's like, now you're going somewhere else. They're like, well, now what? You know, you gotta pivot. You gotta adapt. You gotta adapt. You gotta adapt. You gotta have the antennas up. You know, I got really good at that, you know? And then so I was really blessed to, when Ms. Ross came, you know, what an amazing human being she is. She taught me so much. She's like, you know, Kane, you're doing a good job. You know, you're taking care of my son. That's my baby right there. You know, and like, Ms. Ross. I will die for him, I will bleed for him, I will live for him, you know. So I know, you know, Evan was really cool too, you know. Um, but then they took me on full time after that. And, um, when I would be with Miss Ross, she taught me something different. She's like, hey, I want you to watch my eyes when you're with me. When I'm on stage, I want you to watch my eyes because I'm watching everything. And like And I was like, because when you're in an alpha position or a wolf position, you want to find a position where you can see everybody. But, but I had to position myself where I could see her eyes. She could see me no matter where she was. She knew I was there. If she glanced at me, you know, then she would give me signals to things. So she, by doing that, it was so counterintuitive for me because Now I had to expand my peripherals to here. So now I'm looking ahead but training my peripherals to expand more so that I could still do other things that I need to do. And I wouldn't have been able to do that without her, you know. And she was so aware of everything. I mean, she saw stuff coming way before anybody else would see stuff coming. I mean, like She was just— because she grew up, she grew up in the projects, you know what I mean? She, she, you know, was a different kind of woman, you know. And, um, you know, when my first daughter, uh, was about to be born, she was such a sweetheart. She was like, you know, Kane, when that baby comes, I don't care where you're at, what we're doing, you're gonna go. And I was like, oh, it's all right, Miss Ross, we'll figure it out. She's like, no, no, no, you're gonna be there. And then I'll never forget when I got the call that the water broke and all that. And, um, I told her, I was like, Miss Ross, water just broke. She's like, what are you doing here? And I'm like, uh, all right. You all right? She's like, I'm good. Go see it. But you bring that baby back to the house so I can hold it, you know? And, uh, so then, you know, I went, did all that. You know, brought Sequoia Rose back to, you know, the house and got to meet her family. And she held Sequoia in her arms when she was like 4 days old.

That's awesome.

She was really, really good to me. Our whole family was good to me. All of them. Rhonda, Tracy, Evan, Ross. You know, just, they're all such good people. That's so cool. For a long time.

Long time. That's awesome. So she basically just like took you and your family in as her family.

Yeah, they all did. They treated me and my family like they were, like we were family. And, you know, I was on call for every one of them, you know? So anytime one of them needed me, I was there ready. We could be on, it was hard because we'd be on the way to the beach, go have a beach day, boom, get a text. Boom, we got to go back. Boom. You know what I mean? And then it made it hard that way. But they were so good to me and my family that like, how could I, you know? And one time Sequoia was maybe 6 months old and I went out with Evan to Manhattan. And before I went, Miss Ross goes, I know you got your baby at the house, but I'm going to tell you what, if your baby needs anything, you let me know because you're taking care of my baby. And I said, okay, you know, and we're in Manhattan. I got a call from Sequoia's mom saying, I don't know what's going on. Sequoia has this really bad rash. I don't know what to do. And I said, all right, hung up. And I call up Ms. Ross and I go, hey, Evan's cool, but hey, I don't know what's going on at home right now with mine. You know what I mean? And like, yeah, she's like, tell her I'm on my way over there. You know what I mean? Like, and she drove. She drove to my house, right?

That's awesome.

And I didn't live that far from her. I lived right on the hill too. And, um, she drove to my house and, um, was there for like a couple hours with, with her other, with other, uh, on the phone with all these other, other people that could help navigate and figure out what it was. And then, um, she called me the next day and she was like, she's like, hey, you know, I just gotta tell you something. I'm like, what? You know, she's like, you know, I'm really disappointed because when I walked over there, when I went over there, you know, I walked in and, you know, uh, Sequoia's mom let me walk in and I turned around and looked and all the shoes were on the doorstep. She didn't take me— tell me— she didn't tell me to take my shoes off. Okay, you got to tell her the next time anyone comes in your house doesn't matter who they are, they need to take their shoes off. I mean, she was special, man. She was, she was an amazing human. Um, I was doing a lot of fasting in those days too, and she was like, what kind of fasting you doing? I was like, oh, I'm doing juice fast right now. And like, she's like, I want to try that. So I got her on a juice fast and she did the juice fast too. That was cool. That's awesome.

That's awesome. Well, so now you're talking about fasting. I hear you're just coming off of what, a 10-day fast, 9-day fast?

No, I'm on my 10th day right now.

Oh, you're on your 10th. Okay. You're still in it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Tell us about that.

I'm still, I'm still, how's that go? How's that going for you? I mean, I know personally I don't do well on no coffee and no food. Um, especially with toddlers. So that, that, that part sucks. But so kudos to you cuz Anthony's done the fastest. Yeah. That's a lot.

You know, my philosophy is like this, you know, there's so many reasons to fast, you know, and you can look up all this research and really go down to the root and see what you can get from it. But your, your goal is to read it. I'm 49 years old, and so the older we get, the less stem cells our bodies create, right? So like, you want to get to a state of autophagy, right? And you want to ride that wave of autophagy And by the way, this word autophagy, I just learned how to pronounce. I was talking autography and all these other things for so long, but it's autophagy. Yeah. You know, and it took me a long time to learn it, you know, but I got it now. Thank you. You know what I mean? But like, but, uh, you want to ride this wave of autophagy for a long time because autophagy is like, picture these hunters looking for cancer cells, mutated cells, dead cells, harmful cells, all these things. And then they're just consuming all of that and turning it into energy for your body. So like, if there's, like I said, whoever's watching, if you guys, whatever, you can, you can do it. If you do, from what they say, one 7-day fast in your whole life, you've reduced your chances of getting cancer by 70%. That's only one time, you know. And also, so not only do you want to ride the level of autophagy, but while you're reaching autophagy, You're becoming a stem cell factory. And all of a sudden your whole body's regenerating everything, all of it, you know? So, but fasting is this. So, and also like there's a lot of, I would suggest to anybody to really test yourself. You know, you were here for a limited time. You know, see how strong you are, you know, and, and allow yourself to show you how strong you are, you know. And, and anybody that has a hard time in life, has lots of challenges in their life, lots of obstacles, going through a lot of hardship, you know, the harder your life is, the easier it is to fast. You know, I got a lot of moving parts in my life, so this 10-day fast was the easiest fast I've ever done in my life. You know what I mean? So yeah, I mean, it made everything— it made it so easy. And then also I did— there's one of my brothers, Steve Eckert, he does this No Excuses boot camp type thing. So I did that Friday, Saturday, and the morning of Sunday on day 5, 6, and 7, you know, and we were carrying 40-pound— you guys know Steve Eckert, Yeah. You know, we were carrying 40— yeah, dude, he's crazy. You know, we were doing all these high-intensity stuff for sure. We were doing all these high-intensity things, carrying 40-pound weights up this crazy mountain, man. He had us going and like, and then we had to carry people up the mountain and alternate, dude. Like, you know, dude, I mean, dude, it was, it was insane. You know, and one of the guys there, One of the elders, you know, he's a beast too. He's like, hey, you got to eat after the first night. I'm like, no, dog. I mean, he's like, no, you thought today was hard? You wait until tomorrow. Yeah. And like, you're not going to make it through tomorrow. And I said, well, you don't know me, dog. You know what I mean? Like, I got a deep well to pull from. I'm making it and I'm not giving up.

Hey, hold my coffee.

Yeah, for real. And then we did it. We executed, you know, and He sent me a beautiful message after it was all done. He's like, holy shit, you did what I thought couldn't be done. And, you know, but fasting is so crucial to our lives. It's the easiest way to change your palate for your diet. It's the easiest way for you to remove and resolve any mental blocks that you have. It's the easiest way to allow your conduit with our creator to remain open. You know, so it's just a, it's just a faucet of all this stuff coming in, but you have to give, you have to sacrifice in order to receive it, you know. And, you know, 10 days was easy. That like normally like people would be like, oh, it's 10 days, I get to eat at this time tonight. I'm gonna sleep tonight now and I'll break it tomorrow on, on my homie, one of my best friends, Tiny. Um, he's like, bro, you don't, because he does fast with me too. Anthony Goldner, and, uh, he just did a 10-day fast and he broke it on— he's like, you got to break it on an onion. So you onion and you boil it in 10 ounces of water for 15 minutes covered, and then you pour the water out and you drink the tea, and then you puree, add a little Celtic sea salt, and then eat it like that. And it, and it re— it re— it acclimates your gut health again, you know what I mean? So there's a lot of things I can go into, a whole, whole things with fasting, but I'm on day 10 right now, no food, you know, but to close out the fasting, you know, it's anybody that wants to level up in themselves, you got to level up in yourself before you level up in life, you know. So that's, that's the probably in my opinion, the easiest way to do it.

Now for somebody who say who hasn't really gotten too deep into the fasting. So, um, like where would you have them start? Would you do a 48-hour fast, a 3-day fast?

Okay. 3 days. You need to do 3 days. You know, anything else is, anything else is bullshit.

Doesn't really do anything.

You know what I mean? Well, it's, it's, look, anyone that thinks about fasting is, is you're already ahead of the game on so many levels. Right. Anyone that does a 24-hour fast is already ahead of most people. Anyone that does a 48 hours is already even ahead of more people. But you really want to commit to a 72 hours because then that's when you really will feel the effects of what it's doing to your body. And then you'll feel so good on day 3 that if you allow that feeling to really feel and you're in touch with how you feel, then you'll push it another day or maybe another day. You know what I mean? So, you know, commit to at least 3 and then if you can build from that, do that, but at least do 3.

Okay. And how much of that do you think involves your men— your mental focus with it?

I know for me, well, I've been fasting since I was 18 years old, so I mean, yeah. I mean, like, yeah, I wouldn't be able to do most of the stuff I've ever done in my life. But what, what do you mean for you?

I think how some people try to talk themselves out of like completing a fast. Um, or thinking that they're incapable of doing it, or, oh my gosh, I can't, you know, I, I'm starving, or if they're around food and, you know, or smell food, they're just like, oh my God, it ruins it. And then, you know, you get pissed off and you're like, okay, I'm ready. I'm going to, I'm going to break my fast, you know, or doesn't think that they can complete however long that they want to. Uh, so for me, I know when I, because I attempted it 3 times, I believe.

The first time I got to start after— you got to start after your cycle, so you got to time it with that stuff. Okay. You know what I mean?

With the woman, it's different. Yeah, so I've heard it's different, uh, fasting's different for women and that there's a different way for us to fast versus men. So, and I know there's a book out there, I forget the author, but it's called like Fast Like a Girl, um, I think is the name of the book. But I heard that that plays kind of an important Um, like role, if you will, I guess, into appropriately fasting based off of our cycles and how, how it, how it affects us differently. Um, I know the first time I had attempted one was, uh, sometime after I had Laney. We were going into a 3-day fast right before doing 75 Hard, and so being postpartum. 2 months, like, ish postpartum with Laney, and we were going into potty training with Jackson on top of this fast, on top of going into 75 Hard. And I'm like, no caffeine, no food, postpartum, all that, and then potty training. I'm like, it's a lot of that was like mental, but that's a lot. That was a lot. And I, I attempted, I think I got 2 days, maybe a little over 2. Yeah, 2 days, maybe a little over 2 days.

But I should have grace on yourself. And I did.

And I did. Uh, it was definitely hard though, because I felt like I let myself down at first, but then I was like, no, you, you gave it as much as you could. And there was a reason why you stopped. And like, hello, you just had a baby too. So like, let's not do your mental health, you know, uh, damage by torturing yourself at this point. So. Yeah, no, that was really hard. Um, and then after that I did, I went 30, 38 hours, I believe. 38 hours. Mm-hmm. Uh, and that was when we did Project 33 Level 2 Extreme with Greg Kimball. And that went well. Like that actually, like I did way better than I thought I would and I, I can, confirmed that getting through that with not just with Anthony, but with another community, especially like other women and other moms that also are on the same level as I am, you know, with like the littles and trying to run a business and doing all the things was way easier. Like the, the whole doing the, the, doing the fasting period was not easy, but doing it with the support of everybody else, cuz we were all doing it together, made it that much easier. Cause they're like, oh, the community. Yeah. The community support. It was huge.

Yeah.

Cause otherwise, like, I don't know how I would've gotten through it. That's where that's— yeah, no, I think my, my mental state too was in a completely different place in both of those times, of course. So, but I definitely made it better.

There's a lot of stages. There's a lot of stages, you know, and, and You know, always have grace with yourself, you know, but like when you're ready, you, you commit to a 3 and allow yourself. We gotta remember that we're not our mind, you know, and you gotta remember to be able to participate as the author behind the mind, you know. So therefore our mind isn't dictating what we need to do, you know, and if you can get to a place where the operating systems of your, of your being and understand that our mind has a purpose and its role, but that's not the being. And if you can see and be the being that's watching the mind, it allows you to have more of an understanding of what your mind is programmed to do and your ability to understand or overstand or understand that that's not what you need to do, you know. And most cravings, like me, I enjoy all this week. I've been out with my kids. We went to our favorite Italian spot. They got my one daughter— I like this Australian sea bass with the piccata and the pesto and the pesto risotto. And my other daughter likes the chicken piccata. The calamari and the shrimp, man, it was so wonderful just to be smelling it all. And like, there was no part of me that wished at this present point, you know, there's been a lot of other fasts where I was like, oh, I wish I could eat all these things. But this was the first time I became the observer of my mind in it.

Wow. That's a cool way to look at it. A different shift in perspective. Getting it almost. And when you said you really enjoyed like having the smell and being there in the restaurant and smelling the foods and not having that thought of, oh, I wish I could eat right now, but almost turning it into a moment of appreciation is kind of where my, is kind of where my mind went with that.

I was like, I couldn't have said it better.

Yeah. A moment of appreciation, like. I'm so grateful. I'm so blessed like that, you know. I, I'm here to get to enjoy the, the moments with my daughters at, at dinner where they're getting to savor this amazing food at our, one of our favorite restaurants. I'm on a fast, but I'm still enjoying my time, and I still get to enjoy by the smells because I know they'll get to enjoy it again, you know.

Yeah, and, and that's something too, is that You know, it's, you, we have to remember that it's our choice, you know, and, and you can break it at any time. Like the only person that's gonna judge you really is yourself if you even do that, you know? So, you know, you just, like I said, our mind can be, we have to train our mind, you know, that's, that's really what it comes down to. Agreed. And the easiest way to train your mind is to fast, I think, in my in my opinion, of all the different things that I've done, you know, in my life, you know.

Yeah. Oh, totally. I don't know if he took off or not.

Probably got a work call, maybe.

Unless he got, unless he got a call out. So it's most likely gonna be us closing out. So sorry he had to take off and run.

That's cool with me.

But we'll make all the edits and it's gonna sound great when we're done here. Um, all right.

Well, I'm gonna close. You ask the questions, you run the show.

Yeah, no, for sure. Um, now I know since obviously once you started, were starting your family, how, how was that integrating your family life into your professional life? Seeing how you had to constantly travel and it was hard.

Adapt. That was hard. You know, I mean, my daughter's mom did really well, but it was hard. You know, um, you know, we ended up going through a divorce at one point and then at that point they wanted to be in a different state. And so I just, I walked away from my career and my brand and everything that I worked so hard for just to be around my kids and start over, you know, and my skillset didn't exist in the small town that they wanted to be in. So, you know, it really. Taught me a lot of humility because I'd be washing dishes. I was the best dishwasher this restaurant ever had and probably ever to this day, you know. But, you know, and I did it good. I enjoyed it too, you know. But people would be coming, hey, where are you from? Like, oh, I came out of Hollywood, you know. What'd you do in Hollywood? I was a bodyguard, ran clubs and venues. Ah, sure, here, take this, you know, go out, you know. Then I would hear him over there talking and laughing, you know. But it taught me a lot, you know, because I had developed a lot of confidence with all the things I had traveled through and experienced. And God wanted me to learn humility. So like, I learned with the humility to— what God really taught me was this: when you're up, right, and you have confidence, you need to remember and know the humility that you had when you didn't have anything. So you have to have the humility when you're up, and then when you don't have anything, you have to keep the confidence of when you were, when you were up, when you're down, you know. So like, when I didn't have anything and I had to start all over, nothing, you know, um, I had to really— I, I realized God wanted me to have confidence still. And then now when I'm up, so now it doesn't matter whether I'm up, down, round, you know what I mean? Like my confidence and humility are my buddies just hanging out with me, you know, and teaching me, you know, so.

That's awesome. Uh, your daughters, it's Shasta and Sequoia, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Shasta's my youngest, Sequoia's my oldest. Two amazing humans.

Oh my gosh. What do they think about your job? How did they—

I mean, I'll tell you what, I'm at a state— I'm at a— dude, they used to think I was so cool, you know what I mean? Like, oh, my papa's— my papa's a bodyguard. He's done this person, that person, another person. And I'm not cool anymore. So, you know, and a couple Super Bowls back, you know, when they— when it was in Vegas, my, my friend and partner for a security company says, Kane, Calls me up, we're in the car, my daughters are in the car with me. And he goes, hey, Kanye West is doing a listening party on the Wynn property right after the Super Bowl. It's in a million-dollar tent, gonna have all these high-level people, and there's gonna be multiple security companies. He's like, but they want us to facilitate his needs and the team of him alone. And, uh, And I said, nah, I'm good, bro, you know. And he's like, you know, no, Kane, this will be really good for us. And I was like, you know, I don't think it'll be that good for us, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like, you know, because I want to do it, you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of work, you know, a lot of work, all the logistics and everything, you know. And, uh, I was like, but no worries, bro, you know. And he's like, oh, and I get off phone with them. And then my girls were like, Papa, you would be so cool if you did that. Then my heart was just like, here, let's do it. I called him back and I was like, all right, what's the rate? You know, and I was like, oh, all right, you know. And then we negotiated the rate for our guys because I bring the A-team. I bring the giants. I bring the ninjas. I bring the SWAT, the special enforcement guys.

You know?

Yeah. And, um, so, and I was like, well, let me call a few guys and we'll see who's available tonight before the Super Bowl. We'll see who's, you know, and a lot of our guys, we don't even need to work. You know what I mean? Now, you know, we don't need to work. So I got lucky and, and of all of, of, of the 12 guys I called, 11 said yes. And, and that's the thing too, is like when, when I'm so thankful for this because I've earned so much love and respect with so many tough humans and alphas in my life that like when I call, they answer, you know. And, hey, what are we doing? I'm like, what are we doing? How you know? Okay, I already know. What's up? You know what I mean? Like, I'm thankful to have the strong team that I have. I mean, we got a strong team and And I told him, you know, next thing you know, I get off the phone and we, you know, obviously all the logistics got to be gone through. And then my daughter's like, wow, that's so cool. You're so cool. That's awesome. You know, you're like, yes, I went and I went. Yeah, exactly. That's why I did it. I did it for them, you know, and that's so awesome. Yeah. And then logistically was crazy. I mean, we did it, we knocked it out of the park. Obviously, it was all these different security teams, so all these alphas posturing, and they're doing the first meeting, and my guys are there, they're all watching me. I ain't— I'm not even talking. I bumped into one guy from another security team, this big guy, like, boom. He's like, looked at me like, what the fuck you doing? You know, like, I'm like, I was like, I was like, are you, are you ready? And he was like, Oh, I'm always ready. I was like, oh, okay, good, good, good. I was like, you ready? I was like, uh, I'm a little nervous. You know, I've never done this before. You know, I'm trying to— I hope I do all right. You know, I mean, looking at me like, who are you? What are you doing here?

Yeah.

And my guys, my guys, my team, they watch me like a hawk. So they're all watching me and I, and like, you know, and then I go bump into another dude, do the same thing. And meanwhile, the, all the other guys are talking and discussing their plans and how this is going to work, that's going to work. And then they break apart. I'm already on a mission of self-discovery looking for everything. I got to run. I'm running through this whole thing. So I understand everything we're at, you know, and my boy Tiny pulls me to the side. He's like, damn, K, you're crazy. I was like, what? He's like, bro, in the whole meeting, you're listening to everybody talk about these perfect plans. And I'm already watching you going, all the plans are perfect, but when all that goes wrong, we're going to fix everything. And that's what we do. You know, we fix everything because good guys create amazing plans, but the best guys, when those plans go sideways, when things happen that need to change, it's the guys that can pivot, adapt, acclimate, make the effective changes in order to facilitate whatever the mission is. And if you're doing it in front of 10,000 people, they don't even know that what just happened, that you had to just do a whole new workaround of everything right in front of them. No one even knew. And we did that a lot that night, you know, and it was really fun. We did a great job and then everyone went home safely, which is always the biggest blessing. We like boring nights, although it wasn't boring at all. It was a lot of work.

But yeah, wow, that's cool.

But 3 seconds I was cool, after that it was over.

They're like, all right, Dad's not cool anymore. I take it they're in their teenage years early.

Yeah, my oldest daughter's 14. Yeah, my oldest daughter's 14 and my youngest daughter's 11, but she's already, already there. But they are the biggest gifts to me. You know, I wouldn't be who I am without them. They made me better, stronger in every aspect of my life. They are my reason. I call my oldest daughter my heart and I call my youngest daughter my soul. I can't live without either one of them.

Oh, that's awesome. I'm seeing how like you, you are able to devote so much to your career. You, they're, they are the like driving force. That helps get you through all of that, and they're your inspiration, they're your reason, your why. That's so powerful. I love that. Well, Kane, I know we can go on for hours and talk about all the stories, but we're gonna tie us off here. Thank you so much for coming on, sharing your life story and the journey that you've been on. It's— that's— it's amazing. Thank you so much. I appreciate hearing from you and that you get to come— you had got to come on and be with us.

I love you guys a lot. You guys are amazing humans and, you know, I'm really— it's really cool to watch you guys develop and grow and inspire so many people. And I'm thankful to be part of that with you. Thank you.

Thank you so much.