The Power of the Pivot: Navigating Life's Changes

All right everybody, welcome back to the Infinite Gold Podcast. It's your show hosts, Bri and Anthony Goldner.

What up? Hello.

Uh, today we are going to discuss the art of the pivot and navigating change with setbacks and maybe some misconceptions between, uh, grace and resilience.

I like it.

All right, babe, so one of the questions I had for you today, um, I got to thinking about it and I think it's just a shift of life that we kind of went through, and it's what's been a significant pivot point for you in your life? And it doesn't have to be just like, uh, been part of, like, us. Could have been younger years, but I feel like more of the pivot points for you that I'm thinking of are since we've gotten into, you know, our 30s.

Yeah, I mean, so I think the one of those misconceptions that you mentioned in the, in the title is everybody focuses a lot of times, like, what's right now, which is good. It's being present. Yeah, but we have so many pivot points throughout our years, especially with our interview with Kane, where we have so many points where You're like, wow, things could have been way different had I not done that, or had I done this.

Yeah.

So like just a couple of the pivot points for me would be is, uh, I was on track to move out to the Midwest to pursue reffing full-time. So I was going to become a professional referee first, uh, semi-professionally and a— that didn't make any sense. A professionally semi-professional, you know what I mean? I can become a semi-professional referee and move out to the Midwest. Yet I got hired with the sheriff's office during that summer where I was getting ready to move. And I basically dropped everything with, um, reffing and hockey and went full board into the police world. So again, a lot of the tactics, a lot of the information that I have and that I know now, I would not have known had I gone down the referee track. Now, could I be a professional referee today? Possibly. The very slim chance that that was going to happen? Probably not. So I may have wasted those times. So that's where I would say probably one of the biggest best pivot points for me would be that, because that's what kind of changed the trajectory of my life. I mean, for example, we never would have met.

No. So no, we would— we wouldn't have met. And I think God definitely had bigger plans for you than being a semi-professional referee.

Exactly. So that would probably be the biggest one. And then yes, um, besides that, the more recent ones would be is, um, eventually we will get back into real estate, but I dove deep into real estate and now we've pivoted from that and gone more of the coaching route. And then you and I in this past year. Yeah, we've realized that we didn't just want to coach men. For me, you didn't want to just coach women. We wanted to coach couples. We wanted to coach people that are trying to come together, that are trying to build something great, whether you are a man or a female. We wanted to be able to help. And then both of us were leaning on the health and fitness side at the beginning, and now we've really steered more into the mindset of things, AKA the Infinity Model. Thank you. Greg.

Yeah, well, we didn't just go deep, we went wide because we didn't, we didn't want to limit, uh, the amount of people that we could help. We wanted to widen that spectrum, if you will, by being able to do that.

And Greg talks about it where you, you got to be able to go wide, but then you also got to be able to go deep. So our idea was, yeah, is going wide on the people that we can help, but then going deep on those individuals in the concepts of the Infinity Model that we really coach on— the personal, professional, vitality in the community.

Yeah, definitely. Um, you know, I think one, one, uh, pivot point for me that stands out, obviously, I think is, um, from when we met Greg at Operation Blacksite. Um, that, you know, because I, I hadn't been as driven or as motivated, if you will, to really dive into Number one, my personal growth and my mindset shifting. I think I felt really lost at the time. And when we met Greg and we, when we joined the Infinity Club and became, you know, a part of the amazing community of the final percent, that was, I feel like that was a huge pivot point for me in a professional standpoint, because it really allowed me to open up and see my capabilities. And my true potential, which I already knew. Yeah, exactly. You were just waiting for me to see. And yeah, that, that all, that all came to be from pivoting in that, in that direction and really diving in.

Yeah. On that note, you're also reading the book by Brianna Wiest, The Pivot Year. Yeah. So how has that now changed for you for this year and how much is, is it, is it gonna also change for throughout this rest of this year? Cause I know it's a daily thing.

Yeah. So the, the book is meant, you're not meant to like sit down and read it by chapter by chapter. It's literally, uh, marked by days. So you're reading one page a day. So it starts day 1, day 2, day 3, et cetera, and move on for the entire year. So it's 365 days and you read one page a day and it gives you basically a prompt., for journaling. And that way it's kind of to open up your mind on that particular topic of that day that you're reading on. So, so far it's been good. Some of it has brought a lot of, I guess, enlightening moments, highlighted some things for me, that maybe I kind of ignored, like things that I needed to acknowledge.

Okay.

Putting you on the spot, what was one of those, uh, that comes to mind? Honestly, I couldn't tell you because there's been multiple, and I'm on day 22 right now.

Okay.

So I already read the page, but I'm gonna read it again because I didn't do my journal entry on it yet. But yeah, currently on day 22. Um, but one of them that I can recall was basically like having to do with surrounding yourself with the people that are gen— are genuinely rooting for you and that are on your suppo— on your side and supporting you. That's good. And that, uh, the only— and I think I've talked about this before, basically, basically, and I'm not gonna— I can't repeat it verbatim, but it has to do with the only thoughts of you or opinions of you are your own that truly matter.

That's so good.

And that make a difference. So it doesn't matter what Joe Schmo on the side, on the side of the road, you know, thinks about you, says about you whether they know you or not, the haters on Instagram, the, the only thoughts and opinions of you are your own.

I like that. That, like, we talk about that in our workbook that we have coming out. Yes. Where stop worrying about what everybody else thinks. And if you're trying to start that new business, if you're trying to start that new journey down, whatever it is, if you're trying to make coffee like one of our friends is, if you're trying to do jewelry, if whatever it is, stop caring and worrying about what everybody else is thinking and or if If you're trying to put out a video, like we had this issue, if you're trying to put out a video, stop being so worried about what other people are going to think about it. Like, it's going to suck. It is going— you are going to mess up. It's going to be—

embrace the suck.

Yeah, embrace the suck. Like, Gary Vee now posts a lot of his— go check out his videos from, what is it, like 20 years ago when he was doing his wine documentaries, and it's all grainy, it's horrible. He talks about it. That's how you're going to be right now. But imagine how much further along you're going to be because you took that chance. You pivoted from not doing anything to actually doing something. Like, these podcast episodes, we're gonna look at these next year and be like, wow, that was rough. We posted those, we let people see that. Yeah, that's bad. I mean, and not to get sidetracked, but pivoting is— we started doing this, we literally get maybe 10 to 20 people who view these podcasts right now on YouTube, on YouTube, on all of it. Yeah, but we still do them consistently. Yeah, but we're pivoting slightly, like, okay, that's not working, let's pivot a little bit this way. All right, that's not working, let's pivot a little bit this way. Like, something that— when we just talked about is stories. Yeah, we realized we're not telling you guys enough stories so that way you guys can relate.

And that's one thing that we've, that we've learned. People resonate more with stories and We're learning to be better storytellers because we all— everybody has a story. Everybody has multiple stories that you could tell, whether they're interesting or not. There's still stories. There's still stories, and somebody's bound to listen, and it's gonna resonate with somebody. Exactly. So you never know who you're going to reach. Nope.

So exactly, I love that. And it's the same thing which you talk a lot about lately is grace. Like, you gotta have— you gotta have Grace when you're doing these things, like you gotta like be like embrace the suck and just be embrace the grace, be grateful for it and just have grace that we're all going to suck. That's just how it is. Like you don't wait, you don't come outta the womb and just start walking and talking. Like, no, you're like, you gotta, you, you gotta fall down, get back up, fall down, get back up. And that's what we're doing right now with our podcast. They're great.

Yeah. No. Okay. So now that leads me into another question. Mm-hmm. It, that is related to that. And it's, uh, gosh, how do we balance acknowledging the difficulty of setbacks and needing to move forward?

That's really good. Um, and that's one thing that I struggle with a lot is the whole setbacks and moving forward is sometimes with me is I'm kind of like the opposite of you where I just move forward. And sometimes I move forward way too quick. Like for example, yeah. So like all of a sudden it's like, oh, something's not working, moving past it. It's like, well, let's, let's take a second and be like, well, why isn't it working? Can we make it better? Can we move forward with that concept or that idea that we're doing? Why are we already moving forward to the next one? So that's where I need to focus on mine is like, oh, I had a setback. I have a setback and I just go like 10 feet forward. It's like, well, let's. Let's acknowledge the setback, see what's going on.

Okay, go ahead. Okay, so let me ask you a question then. Do you have— give me an example of a time that you were faced with a setback? Yeah. And how you addressed it. Did you— how did you process it differently?

Yeah, I would say it kind of goes back into the real estate, uh, side of things, is the setback for me would be is I spent a lot of money in learning about real estate, is in those masterminds, in those communities. And at the time I didn't realize that what I was learning from it. So at the time I was like, I just wasted all that money. I didn't get anything out of it. Nothing happened. It's like, well, no, what I learned from it is that's not the community that I needed to be part of. That's not the community I wanted. I needed to be part of the final percent that we eventually found. Yeah. Um, but at that time it was one of those things. It's like, okay, I was again, trying to just go 15 feet ahead and I should have at the time recognized and realized it. And then that gap wouldn't have been as stressful. It would've been more of, okay, cool. This is a good learning experience. This isn't what we're going to go. This isn't the route we're going to go down. This is what we've got. And then just changing that mindset for you. Like if you have that setback, stop being so stressful about it. Like take a second, utilize grace. Think of the resilience that you have. Like it took resilience for you to get to where you are. It took resilience for you to realize that the path that you're going down, that setback that just hit you, wasn't like— you can get past it. Like, the majority of people, if you're not risking things, like, if you're not being riskful, risk-takers, you're not going to hit that setback. So you, by you having that setback, you're already ahead of the people who aren't even doing anything, who aren't even risking anything. So for me, I just need to focus a lot of times is When I hit that setback, I hit that wall. Okay, cool. What's going on right now? What can I fix? What can I work through? And again, just, it's, it's all about fun. Like, be more enjoyed with those setbacks, enjoyed with those moments of time. And like, this sucks, but hey, I'm still alive. I'm still good. And I learned some shit and it's time to move on.

It could always be worse.

It can always be worse. Like, that's, that's, that's been a good one too. I mean, I love when you always tell me that is it can always be worse. You're right, it can be. So let's just take that with a grain of salt and let's move forward on it. Yeah.

Well, then I think it kind of taps into, um, you allowing yourself to be grateful that it is what it is at that time. Yeah, that it's not worse.

Exactly. Like, it's, it's only, you know, $20,000, $30,000. It could be $2 million, $3 million. Like, it could be a lot. Yeah. But we also realize that those, those times may happen, but all that means is that means we're growing. That means we're getting bigger. Like, if we're now having those, it's like, awesome. Or Mosey talks about it. He's like, you're going to have those $10,000, $20,000 mistakes. Next thing you know, you're going to have those $100,000, $200,000 mistakes. Next thing you know, you're going to have those million, $2 million mistakes. But all what that all means If you're having those type of mistakes, that means you're that much further along and higher up than where you were before. So in essence, embrace those.

Save you in the future. Exactly. It's all a learning lesson. That was something we had to look at with the real estate stuff is, okay, feeling the feelings, this sucks right now. But, but in hindsight, it's a good learning lesson.

Oh yeah.

And now we get to take what we're learning from it, all the new knowledge, what to do, what not to do. And how we can not, you know, do it on the next—

oh yeah, the next projects that we have coming up. And anybody who else is trying to get into it, we can literally steer them in the right direction, and that way they don't make the same mistakes that we did, right?

Yeah. And by doing that, you're getting to share that knowledge.

Yep, exactly.

I like it. Yeah. All right, another one for you, uh, What are some common misconceptions about grace and resilience and facing setbacks?

Hmm. I think I semi talked about this, like the misconceptions of setbacks where it's like, I feel like a lot of times is people think of a setback as a failure. Yeah. Um, and they just get so hard on themselves that I failed or this happened again, or this is happening. And it's like, but we need to learn to pivot. From those setbacks. Like, we need to pivot and either dive deeper because we didn't dive deep enough, or we need to pivot away from him. Like, cool, that's not the route that I needed to go, that's not the route that I want to go. Um, and then the idea with grace is, as you're doing all of that, you need to have grace. Yeah, I feel like that's— I feel like it's a lost—

like, control what you can control. Yeah. In those situations when, when you're facing that setback, realize that maybe that wasn't in your control and that's, you had kind of have to open up your perspective. Like, okay, if there was, if there was something that you could have controlled, you know, to prevent, maybe if you were doing something preventative to, you know, to not do, have that setback and go through that, uh, and okay, then acknowledge it. You know, but acknowledge it and then move on. Don't sit and dwell on it.

Yeah. So, and a concept that just came to mind too is, um, that we talk about in The Final Percent is the prepare, plan, expect. Yeah. So that's one of those things is, okay, you just got that setback. Well, let's now take a look at it. Did you prepare enough? Did you plan enough? Yeah. And what did you expect to happen? So if you didn't, yeah, if you didn't prepare and you didn't plan, Oh, then that's why you have the setback that you have. So maybe you don't need to pivot away from that setback. You need to embrace that setback and be like, yep, I didn't prepare and plan enough. So I need to take a step back. I need to prepare more. I need to plan more so that way that setback doesn't happen. And I, that way I can expect it.

I've got a good story on that one actually. It kind of takes me back to, um, grade school. Uh, I wasn't the greatest student. I, I struggled a lot. I, constantly needed tutors, especially in math. Math was not my specialty, as you still know till this day.

Like, it's a good thing I majored in finance.

I got you, babe. That's what— yeah, that's, that's why— yeah, that's why you run the finances.

That's why she married me, it's just because of that.

Handle all the numbers. Like, I refer to him a lot of the time as, this is my numbers guy. This is why we're married.

I ran the numbers.

Yeah, he ran the numbers. I did the numbers. Um, But going through school, uh, I had a lot of test anxiety and even for times that I did study, maybe I didn't study hard enough, but I'd go and take the test, felt confident maybe for a moment that I knew what I studied and knew the answers to write down for each, you know, question. And then I get the test back and it is not the grade that I was expecting, or, you know, like I go to fill out and fill out my answers. They made me get the multiple choice test. My biggest problem was I'd go and fill out an answer, then I would go back and change it. And I did that constantly. And I learned that the hard way. I learned, I, yeah, I learned that the hard way. And, uh, there were some where I didn't study at all and that's where I wasn't preparing. So I wasn't planning to ace the test or even get at least, you know, a C, high C, you know. Again, I'm telling you, I wasn't a great student in school. I had to work extra hard to get decent grades, to just at least get me a 3.0. I had to have at least that. I think, I think it might have even been lowered to, uh, a requirement to stay in your sport. Or you got removed, like you got cut from the team.

I can't remember, it was like a 2.0 or a 2.5. It was way down.

It probably was a 2.0, but I aimed for a 3.0 or higher because I was like, I'm better than that. I want to set the bar higher for myself so in case if I fall short of it, at least I have a higher goal.

Yeah.

And I think that applies a lot to other, you know, goals that we set in life. It's true. Higher, so in case if you fall short of it Well, at least you got closer than what you were actually like anticipating.

Yeah. It's just one of the things that, uh, I know, uh, we tell our clients a lot is when you're setting your goal, don't set what you want. You need to set higher than what you want because then if you reach the goal that you wanted, great, that's what you wanted. But if you set that goal higher and you worked harder to get to that other goal, most likely you're going to pass up that other goal. That you thought was going to be the bare minimum. So for example, like, if your goal for this year is to have $100,000 in sales, well, let's say that's now $250,000, or let's say that's $500,000. Yeah. And then most likely what's going to happen is you're going to set those mini goals and you're going to work so hard to get to that $500,000, you're going to end up getting $250,000, $300,000, and now you are way past $100,000 that—

oh yeah, was gonna be your initial goal because you also You prepared, you planned, and then you expected to meet and/or exceed that goal. Set your goal high, but still set it somewhere in reach, correct? Rather than, you know, setting something that's super easy or super, super lofty that, you know, isn't gonna happen, that, you know, deep down is not going to happen because maybe time— the time frame of this goal that you're setting is not on your side. I think we've experienced that before.

Oh yeah, without a doubt. So awesome. And I think you had one more for us, right?

Yeah, I think I do actually.

Solid. Again, these are questions that people are asking us either daily or messaging us. So if you have any questions that you want answered, feel free to message us and we'd love to answer them for you.

Oh wow, we actually checked off all our questions that we wanted today.

I like it.

I think, you know what, this time, this time around, we were definitely more precise.

Yeah, no, that's good. Um, the only thing I'd like to, um, end off with is the idea of, um, being able to pivot is having a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset. Yep. Um, if you have a fixed mindset, you're not gonna be able to pivot. Right. You're gonna be so pigeonholed into whatever it is that you think that has to happen in these, this parameter right here. Yeah.

I think I can actually quickly add to that, and it's really relatable to moms, is, you know, I knew you're gonna talk about this. Yeah, no, well, because I— it's, it's happened to me myself.

Yeah.

And I, I got down on myself about it. You know, a lot of us moms try to focus on having this strict-ass schedule of, you know, I gotta handle this with the kids, I gotta do this with the kids, and I got to do this in the house, and this, this, and this. And they, they put it on this tight, tight schedule on the calendar for the day or the week, what have you, and then life happens. Your daughter— maybe you don't accomplish—

your daughter sleeps in because she's going through a growth spurt. So whatever you had planned, yeah, morning is—

you're like, well, I can't wake her up, she just went to sleep an hour ago.

And now your nap time is all screwed up because she's waking up later.

Yeah. And then she doesn't go to bed till late, and then we have to stay up later. Yeah. Yeah. But learning to pivot when you have those kinds of setbacks and learning not to have such a strict schedule— like, have some guidelines for the schedule, like, hey, this is what I want accomplish.

Well, I think that's what you— you've been a lot better. Both of us have been a lot better at it. At the beginning, we had zero schedule because we're like, we're not gonna be those parents with a schedule.

And we're like, willy-nilly.

We're like, oh no, we, we need at least a schedule. Yeah, like, so for you guys, find that happy medium.

Yeah, it doesn't have to be super strict, but don't have it too willy-nilly. So yeah, meet somewhere in the middle.

Goldilocks Zone.

Goldilocks Zone. Goldilocks Zone. We'll be coming out with a full set of episodes.

Can't wait.

On— or full episode on the Goldilocks Zone. Uh, I know we're going to be creating a course with Greg Kimball on that one, so stay tuned. That'll be an awesome course to get to learn from.

Yeah.

So final thoughts on the pivot: embrace change and allow, allow yourself to shift your perspective, open up your mind to if something happens and it doesn't go your way, that you can pivot to another direction and kind of trust that maybe that was part of the process, that that was part of whatever, you know, plan— God's plan, the universe, whatever higher power that you believe in.

Yeah.

Um, a lot— allow yourself to pivot because nothing stays the same. Nothing is permanent. That— I think that's the biggest thing. So knowing that nothing— and Knowing that nothing is permanent.

There is— what was the first one that you said? The first thing, because we're gonna throw these as our golden nuggets. So nothing is permanent.

Nothing is permanent. Allow yourself to be flexible.

Allow yourself to be flexible and have grace.

And have grace.

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